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Buying the galaxy tab 2 10.1

Hello everyone,
I have a few questions about your experiences with galaxy tab 10.1.. I am considering buying my first tablet and i have an option to get it from my operator for a reasonable price and with split payments (250 EUR altogether).. I am also interested in iPad 2, but i don't know if i want to buy another apple device and i would have to cash out at once which is the lesser option for me.. I have been a member of this community for a long time and it has helped me a lot, i have learned a lot, so i again ask you to help me with this decision .. i own a samsung galaxy s i9000 phone and am a big fan of cyanogen mod roms. If i buy the Tab 2 10.1, i'm not even considering using the stock rom.. Is CM10 smooth and usable? The most important part for me is Wifi and 3G, because i will be using it on daily train rides.. i also hate lag, like most of you so in all i'm asking you if you could point me to a video which showcases performance of an AOKP or CM10 rom and share your experiences and also opinions/alternatives (like if its worth cashing out for a note 10.1)..
Thanks in advance!

I use cm10 jelly bean 4.1.1 in my tab2 no problems at all and very smooth scrolling i use it as daily driver and ditched the stock firmware completely no return to stock cm10 implemented gooood in this tab do not worry you will be impressed
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what about Gnote 10.1 ? the hardwares are much faster & samsung will upgrade it to jellybean soon. Spen is also a big bonus

rickywinataa said:
what about Gnote 10.1 ? the hardwares are much faster & samsung will upgrade it to jellybean soon. Spen is also a big bonus
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In terms of specifications yes much faster but one thing to check the presence of custom roms try to check if custom roms you like found for the device it is a new device so i think custom roms will come eventually but in some cases may be the developers do not like to develop for device so you will find a small number of custom roms avaliable or did not find roms that you prefer in device as cm roms check www.teamhacksung.org still no speaking about cm for note 10
Some people before buying a device check internet for presence of custom roms they like for the specific device before buying it
Check if their is a specific subforum for note 10 and read some posts about development in it before buy and search google for custom roms for it also see some youtube videos about device to have near full knowledge before buying
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7.7 support dead with Nexus 7 3G arrival, why only roms based on CM and nothing else?

Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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adinis78 said:
Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.

You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.

Gilbot said:
It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.
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I feel for them
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songmeesay said:
You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.
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I don't seem them releasing an update now with Nexus 7 3G-wifi coming out soon, everybody will jump on it just as they have with wifi Nexus 7
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Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.

songmeesay said:
Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.
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True enough.
But when all is said and done.....even stock ROM ICS gives us a damned great tab. We can always hope (delusionally perhaps) Samsung will release a JB update.....but even if not, I quite look forward to years of enjoyment with my 7.7.

i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?

aletheus said:
i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?
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In Romania they removed it from the site, and also no support given to it.

Difficult to develop for GS4?

Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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take a look at i9300 sgs3 development section,
then come back here with your findings

If it's anything like the Note 2 you will loss any Samsung tweaks if you go with a non-touchwiz Rom. Even GPS and bluetooth is a little hairy on Aosp or cyanogenmod Roms. But each phone/team working on the Rom is different. I'm actually sticking with a custom touchwiz Rom because I need the reliability for a business trip this upcoming week.
And it will be extreme luck if the IR sensor works without Samsung's framework. The IR port is the one thing I've been dying for to make a come back. I would actually pay $20 for a fully programmable IR app that has the same functionality of one of those expensive Logitech models.

The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.

GGXtreme said:
The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.

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...I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?

Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.

cdmoore74 said:
I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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You hit the nail on the head my friend. I am looking to run stock android jelly bean on my next device.
I had a nexus s for my first android phone and I took it for granted how amazingly easy it was to flash not only roms but radios, kernels, basically anything. And I just love stock android.
I am now on an HTC rezound. While I do like it, I sorely miss stock android and flashing away at will. Already had quite a few flashing mishaps.
If I am forced to run touchwiz to use all these new features, then I'm not going to pay attention to the features when choosing my next device.
This wouldn't even be an issue if the LG nexus was released on Verizon.
Ugh, looks like I'm still waiting.
Rezound, s-off, loving it.

Livebyte said:
I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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Explain?
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GGXtreme said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
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Actually it depends on the feature.. Some of the features see baked into the framework apk others have individual apps... None of them are launcher dependent.. However all of these together make a ROM.. So I don't know you are referring to??
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Explain?
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He means all the devs will fly in droves to the new flagship device leaving the flagship devices of last year stranded..
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Piaband said:
Explain?
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Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.

I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.

Reviewers said:
I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.

Livebyte said:
Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
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And the S3 community, count it in. We're fed up with all those broken promises too.

Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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Only for developers that want to wipe Samsung off the phone. Which I don't understand since most of the new hardware features require drivers Samsung rightfully will not release. For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
I'm sure there will be plenty of developers that will develop deoxed custom ROMs and great kernels with tweaks OCing etc. . Omega already to jump in. The only custom ROM's I've ever used were that of STOCK ROM development where features could be enhanced and drivers would not be a problem. CM always seems to have something missing or not working.
Why buy a Samsung device and then wipe it clean of all the great features? Just buy a Nexus 4
That said. I don't mind running an ASOP ROM on my Nexus 7 I will be glad to get rid of when Samsung releases the 6.5" Note 3.
For many a stock base is good enough with a custom launcher. This is a very very small community. I know at least 12 people with an S 3and 6 with Notes. None of them even want their phones rooted.
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The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Phoneguy589 said:
The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I think GS4 & Note3 development will be pretty similar to GS2, Note, GS3 and Note2.
AFAIK, for example, the AOSP based ROMs don't really support the S-Pen on the Notes, but that's more app specific.
Cameras have long been, and will likely continue to be a problem. Video capture rates may be lower, features like both cameras, sound in pictures, smart scroll may not be supportable.
As always, for stock features, there will be stock based ROMs. Take your choice, features or AOSP based.
As with all the other Galaxy S class devices, there will be two main variants: International Exynos Octa & US/LTE/Qualcomm. ROMs, XDA forum sections and many issues will be different for each.
I predict that many ROM devs will continue to complain about the lack of Exynos info and source code. But they will develop, as best they can. I'd like to see Samsung open up more, Sony and Qualcomm are better at open-ness.
And there will be at least one other group for the Qualcomm variants; I'd hope the US carrier variants will all be able to run the same ROMs, but previous experience is different I guess.
tbong777 said:
For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
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1st post of my thread has links to free versions, as well as free alphas of Spirit2, with digital audio features for Galaxy S class devices.
I hope the proposed Android FM API will see success and provide more options.

howtomen said:
Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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Only reason I ask is that the i9300 get newer software updates vs the 8747 or t999. I was recently dead set on getting the i9500 but now it well be based more on development. The the ir blaster won't work km cm or aosp as it doesn't work on the note 10.1...Only touch wiz. Not really a big deal to me but I was Curtis as th where most devs are from that usually get the international ones. LTE to me means is reach my data cap sooner so hsdpa+ is plenty quick got me.
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Entropy512 said:
Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
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Yeah, I guess that's just for exynos based galaxy devices. My US S2 Variant has several 4.2.2 aosp roms. Aokp, cm10.1, pac, slim, rootbox etc. I assume the USA s4 will be similar.
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Should I return my G Pad?

Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.

If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.

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Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.

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If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.
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The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.
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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.

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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.
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I'm the opinion that cm is good for old devices that are forgotten. I never get better working device nor with aosp or cm. You miss all ways something and to get a stable release you need a year. I've s2 and the good working cm ROM is from last year.
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testadeferro said:
The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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I just got 26k using mahdi ROM.. Didn't bench on stock.
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I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
Google Play Edition:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=lg_g_pad&hl=en

CZ Eddie said:
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
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That's what I was hoping for but I might just get a Nexus 7.

CZ Eddie said:
I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
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https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=lg_g_pad&hl=en
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The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
Cheers
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Vitamin_D said:
Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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Number one, just be happy with what you've got, you sound really pathetic. Number two, our custom ROMs are daily drivers and work better than LGs stock ROM. Number three, conversion to GPE is at a stand still, so it's impossible at the moment to get OTAs from anything but LG.

I'm a huge fan of CM. The nightlies may have minor bugs here or there but it generally makes a huge difference in performance to the phones I've installed it on. This is probably because its a newer version of Android - I installed CM7 on a Froyo phone and CM9 on a gingerbread phone. Even CM10 is better on a JB device. Much smoother with less lag and obviously stripped of bloatware.
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You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.

Reckoning said:
You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.
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That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.

techrider6262 said:
That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.
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My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.

Reckoning said:
My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.
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Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad

techrider6262 said:
Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad
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Now, now..WWJD? He'd jailbreak that mofo and send Steve Jobs to Perdition...

Vitamin_D said:
Well my wife went out and bought a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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Vitamin_D said:
I might just get a Nexus 7.
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If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.
I would think long and hard about going back to a 7" Tablet after owning an 8.3" Tablet.. And don't forget, you can Root the Tablet you have in a few minutes.. (It took me 2 Minutes) and maintain all the stability of Stock and Freeze or better yet, Uninstall all the apps you feel are Bloatware.. The Best of Both Worlds.. I'm running Mahdi right now and it's 100% stable and very smooth..

testadeferro said:
The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
Cheers
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not all GS4's are equal as the att s4 is also in the same place as the g pad, it needs to be lokified as well, and actually the gpe port was not as bad (at least on the att cooked version) as you make it out to be, myself going to beanstalk with it being stable (not rock stable) but most of the time stable
otherwise like the dev mention it should be something silly being the reason why not everything works on the gpe, looking over the gpe (as it doesn't have the gpu problems all the other roms have) it does have a different file structure, but it shouldn't be impossible to bring it up
RaiderWill said:
If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.. enough so that I turned in my Nexus 7 for the G-Pad 8.3.
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sweet got mine for about 275 shipped

darkassain said:
sweet got mine for about 275 shipped
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Yeah.. Newegg had them at the time for $249.99 shipped.. but I wanted to pay the $30.00 extra for 2 reasons.. 1) If anything was not right, I could just walk it in to BestBuy the same day and get a replacement.. 2) The return window was over 30 days.. I purchased the 1st week of December and have until January 15th to return/replace it if need be or the Mysterious Nexus 10 2014 should pop up in that time frame and be something REALLY special..
For the moment.. This is the Hottest Ticket on the Planet.

[Q] So... is CM coming to this device?

I am quite new to the forums but I am just wondering if CM is coming to this device... seeing as installing CM11 on my mother's Galaxy S3 and it works super duper fast, the Tab 4 Lags with touchwiz...

ladarkphoenix said:
I am quite new to the forums but I am just wondering if CM is coming to this device... seeing as installing CM11 on my mother's Galaxy S3 and it works super duper fast, the Tab 4 Lags with touchwiz...
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Probably not. This devices are not so popular and all good devs have a Nexus 7 or 9. So Id bet this tabs wont get cm11 or 12 or anything but a debloated stock rom.
What is your device?

MarckozZ said:
Probably not. This devices are not so popular and all good devs have a Nexus 7 or 9. So Id bet this tabs wont get cm11 or 12 or anything but a debloated stock rom.
What is your device?
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T230NU, I really need a langauge pack on this device since my mom doesn't quite understand English.. Russian would be good

Thats upsetting considering they had CM working on a little crappy Huawei phone, but wont do it for a samsung tablet...

It depends on the devs. We got so lucky that some devs owned the tab s and made a unoffical build of cm11 and aphla build of cm12. I own a tab s and are lucky to have cm11 on this device.

If a talented Dev applied himself it is possible but mostly the issue is our chip set is hard to work with. The tab s wasn't.
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i bought a SM-T530 today, first tablet but had many android phones (htc desire, s2, s3, htc m8 and so on) and rooted/rom on all of them.
impulse bought this tab 4 tablet expecting good things due to the fact its a samsung tab series and just expected there would be a scene of roms for these samsung tablets! boy was i wrong.
very dissapointed i bought this tablet now considering i cant even find an aosp rom for it at the moment.
first time i have not researched a device. i burnt myself big time. im never a fan of stock roms. :crying:
will keep an eye on these forums for roms. hoping someone does an aosp rom of some kind for it.

mrkhigh said:
If a talented Dev applied himself it is possible but mostly the issue is our chip set is hard to work with. The tab s wasn't.
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Yes. I do not think the Tab 4 chipsets are exynos. Our tab s are exynos which is probaly why some devs who dont own this tablet still makes kernels and roms.

roamin said:
i bought a SM-T530 today, first tablet but had many android phones (htc desire, s2, s3, htc m8 and so on) and rooted/rom on all of them.
impulse bought this tab 4 tablet expecting good things due to the fact its a samsung tab series and just expected there would be a scene of roms for these samsung tablets! boy was i wrong.
very dissapointed i bought this tablet now considering i cant even find an aosp rom for it at the moment.
first time i have not researched a device. i burnt myself big time. im never a fan of stock roms. :crying:
will keep an eye on these forums for roms. hoping someone does an aosp rom of some kind for it.
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Yeah, my niece got a tab 4 for christmas, and I was helping her out with it, since I'm the "tech" guy. I was pretty disappointed with it, to be honest. It made me really appreciate my nexus.

So far only real gripe I have is lack of brightness sensor... Amazed they left that off.
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DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Yes. I do not think the Tab 4 chipsets are exynos. Our tab s are exynos which is probaly why some devs who dont own this tablet still makes kernels and roms.
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Exynos are even more a pain than this tablet.

mrkhigh said:
So far only real gripe I have is lack of brightness sensor... Amazed they left that off.
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Yeah, same here. And the non lighted software keys are kind of annoying when using the tab in the dark like I am right now.

antiseen said:
Yeah, same here. And the non lighted software keys are kind of annoying when using the tab in the dark like I am right now.
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completely agree. not sure why they did that.

Not an exynos in t230. Its marvell pxa1088 Which is a four core similar to the dual core in tab 3 7 inch
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Maybe create a petition on porting cyanogenmod to tab 4?

hi,
the sm-t23x is going to hit the same wall that the tab 3 7.0 hit because of the marvell situation.
although, from the effort with the tab 3 7, there may be new knowledge available marvell wise for working
with the tab 4 7.
I would recommend getting to work on it over waiting for someone else to do it. :good:
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