Phone is on MJE, and I'd rather not root with kingo. EDIT: towelroot did the job on MJE 4.3 stock rom.
Now that I'm rooted and still on MJE, does anyone regret going to NC2 or NC4? Anyone miss MJE?
I think truthfully , most that are staying on Mje were for reception problems that probably needed hardware replacement. I am waiting for my replacement to come it will have NC4 . Now, that towel root and the ability to still flash back to NC 2 kernel it's not so important to keep MJE.
cheesiepoof said:
Phone is on MJE, and I'd rather not root with kingo. EDIT: towelroot did the job on MJE 4.3 stock rom.
Now that I'm rooted and still on MJE, does anyone regret going to NC2 or NC4? Anyone miss MJE?
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mjh68 said:
I think truthfully , most that are staying on Mje were for reception problems that probably needed hardware replacement. I am waiting for my replacement to come it will have NC4 . Now, that towel root and the ability to still flash back to NC 2 kernel it's not so important to keep MJE.
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But if you do have reception issues you do have the option for the MJE modem if that's the modem for you.
Just flash in Odin : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47400062&postcount=1
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Hi, already rooted, and have been running cleanrom on my MJ7 N3 for awhile now, and I see that many of the newer roms require MJE.
What would be the easist way to update to MJE, and could I just flash a MJE rom anyways?
(also I have deleted the stock rom for more space, worst case I'll odin back to stock, just wondering if there is a faster way than going back to stock, updating, then installing another custom rom.)
brex91 said:
Hi, already rooted, and have been running cleanrom on my MJ7 N3 for awhile now, and I see that many of the newer roms require MJE.
What would be the easist way to update to MJE, and could I just flash a MJE rom anyways?
(also I have deleted the stock rom for more space, worst case I'll odin back to stock, just wondering if there is a faster way than going back to stock, updating, then installing another custom rom.)
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You CAN flash MJE roms but you'll likely have wifi and signal issues. SOme have done it and worked around the issues.
Use Odin to flash MJE tar is best way to get to MJE. If Kingo is still slow, use Vroot.
For any help or links, check Note 3 link in my sig
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az_biker said:
You CAN flash MJE roms but you'll likely have wifi and signal issues. SOme have done it and worked around the issues.
Use Odin to flash MJE tar is best way to get to MJE. If Kingo is still slow, use Vroot.
For any help or links, check Note 3 link in my sig
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Using paid version of SuperSU 1.93, (updated binaries) will it survive OTA? from MJ7 to MJE?
Mr. HQ said:
Using paid version of SuperSU 1.93, (updated binaries) will it survive OTA? from MJ7 to MJE?
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The results are kinda split on this. Some have said they survived OTA and many have said they lost root and had to Odin MJE anyway.
I usually tell folks to just Odin MJE and that way you only have to flash MJE ONCE
I am about to buy a used verizon note 3 its running 4.5 can this version be rooted and safestrapped to run custom roms? ??
Anyone know if this phone with version 4.5 android can be rooted and use safestrap so I can run custom roms
DizzyFox said:
Anyone know if this phone with version 4.5 android can be rooted and use safestrap so I can run custom roms
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Android 4.3, yes safestrap and root will work. I think 4.5 must be a typo. Try rooting with Kingo or Vroot.
I would also double check what version of JellyBean the device is running. Also, what is the Baseband version? Is it: MI9, MJ7 or MJE?
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Android 4.3, yes safestrap and root will work. I think 4.5 must be a typo. Try rooting with Kingo or Vroot.
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I'm sorry it was 4.3 which do you think is better progam to root with
Kingo seems to be more safe but no problems have been reported with either. I have used both with no problems. So if Kingo dose not work for you use Vroot and then replace the Chinese superuser with Chainfires supersu.
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I woversionalso double check what version of JellyBean the device is running. Also, what is the Baseband version? Is it: MI9, MJ7 or MJE?
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ok so it matters what baseband version its running when you root and safestrap it?
DizzyFox said:
ok so it matters what baseband version its running when you root and safestrap it?
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It's for the radio's and modem. If it's updated to MJE, then you will just have to root, install safestrap and flash roms. But if you want to run the latest and greatest of the best rom's, the devs recommend that you be on the updated baseband MJE.
As suppose to if the phone is MI9 or MJ7, you can stay on that baseband or you can ODIN and update to MJE.
Your mileage may very. I've seen users who have updated and have tethering, wifi and gps issues. Some who have updated do not have these issues on the updated baseband and users like me who are on MI9 have not experienced any of these and decided to stay on the default baseband.
If you decide to go ahead and purchase the phone, here is a link with better info on how to ODIN and update baseband, coming from either MI9 or MJ7 and updating to MJE. Best of luck, hopefully you can get the phone, root, install safestrap, flash the roms that you like and happy testing. Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707
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It's for the radio's and modem. If it's updated to MJE, then you will just have to root, install safestrap and flash roms. But if you want to run the latest and greatest of the best rom's, the devs recommend that you be on the updated baseband MJE.
As suppose to if the phone is MI9 or MJ7, you can stay on that baseband or you can ODIN and update to MJE.
Your mileage may very. I've seen users who have updated and have tethering, wifi and gps issues. Some who have updated do not have these issues on the updated baseband and users like me who are on MI9 have not experienced any of these and decided to stay on the default baseband.
If you decide to go ahead and purchase the phone, here is a link with better info on how to ODIN and update baseband, coming from either MI9 or MJ7 and updating to MJE. Best of luck, hopefully you can get the phone, root, install safestrap, flash the roms that you like and happy testing. Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707
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Thanks this has been great information.
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Thanks this has been great information.
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Your welcome
Can the note 3 with software n900vvrucnc4 be rooted?
If no, any way to go back to 4.3?
Thanks
JasjarMan said:
Can the note 3 with software n900vvrucnc4 be rooted?
If no, any way to go back to 4.3?
Thanks
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You're stuck for now, hopefully someone find a root method for it. I'm staying on NC2 until then, root is too important to me.
No root method for NC4 and no way to downgrade either
Only way to go back to MJE is if you are on NC2 leak
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
This is the method I used it worked perfectly, I came from sprint sammy GS3 so this was a bit different but its great now! if you go under your devices and go to the android development forum you will see how to update to 4.4.2 after you obtain your 4.3 root with safestrap. this is the safest method so follow the link i posted and you should have no problems:good: also if you miss the aosp feel the eclipse rom is amazing..Good Luck
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Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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Oh also I stayed on the NC2 firmware when I went to kit kat from what I gathered in research its better than the NC4 for now
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
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More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
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There is nothing special you need to do while on 4.3. You can do just as you said but you also need to install SuperUser.
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
Lexus One said:
Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
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its not called alpha. [emoji12]
http://towelroot.com/
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I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
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I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
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Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
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You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
airmaxx23 said:
You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
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Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
Lexus One said:
Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
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The NC2 bootloader is really the one to be on. The basic steps can be found in the install instructions in this ROM thread, you can use any ROM, it doesn't have to be Jasmine. Just use steps 1-12. More detailed instructions can be found in this thread but use the Odin files from the first thread.
I just migrated from a galaxy S3, my phone took the update that basically locks the boot loader while i was sleeping. Very unfair. So now I'm weary of what i can possibly do with my phone. So I have a note 3 on 4.4.2 waiting to be rooted. I did some research, found a few options but i want assurance that it is safe and possible. Has anyone been able to root the device (verizon) and put a rom on it? I believe towelroot is my best bet. Also what does NC4 and NC2 stand for? Thanks!
You have a lot of reading to do. Nc4&2 refer to build numbers, kernels, modems. Could be a lot of things...read carefully. Next search towel root. Then search safe strap. Read everything that Google shows you about those things. Then start testing what you feel comfortable flashing. Report back with questions
Here you go I'll make it alittle easier for you.
Root NC4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784009 by @droidguy22
Odin help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104 by @az_biker
Root NC4 and setup to flash roms : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627 by @BeansTown106
Safestrap : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610 by @Hashcode
Modems : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572 by @BeansTown106
NC2 was a leak we got before the NC4 OTA, the NC2 left us a few loopholes that NC4 didn't. People who took the NC2 leak can odin all the way back to MJE 4.3 if we like. If you took the NC4 OTA you're stuck on NC4. Just because you're on NC4 doesn't mean you have to stick with that modem if your signal is awful. It all depends on where you are, etc. I'm on the NC2 leak but that modem was terrible for me so I flashed the NC4 modem. Some users are on NC4/NC2 and using the MJE modem and others are on NC2 modem. You have to try them out for yourself but if your signal is fine then don't worry about it. Just read, read and read again. Take your time and follow all instructions and you'll be fine. Happy rooting and flashing roms.
^^^op be sure to hit thanks on his post^^^
thegamerdarkseid said:
Here you go I'll make it alittle easier for you.
Root NC4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784009 by @droidguy22
Odin help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104 by @az_biker
Root NC4 and setup to flash roms : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627 by @BeansTown106
Safestrap : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610 by @Hashcode
Modems : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572 by @BeansTown106
NC2 was a leak we got before the NC4 OTA, the NC2 left us a few loopholes that NC4 didn't. People who took the NC2 leak can odin all the way back to MJE 4.3 if we like. If you took the NC4 OTA you're stuck on NC4. Just because you're on NC4 doesn't mean you have to stick with that modem if your signal is awful. It all depends on where you are, etc. I'm on the NC2 leak but that modem was terrible for me so I flashed the NC4 modem. Some users are on NC4/NC2 and using the MJE modem and others are on NC2 modem. You have to try them out for yourself but if your signal is fine then don't worry about it. Just read, read and read again. Take your time and follow all instructions and you'll be fine. Happy rooting and flashing roms.
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This post should effectively end all questions regarding basic flashing and upgrading firmware I'm thinking this will be referred to about a bazillion times! Nice work!
az_biker said:
This post should effectively end all questions regarding basic flashing and upgrading firmware I'm thinking this will be referred to about a bazillion times! Nice work!
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Thanks a ton, I just try to help out when I can.
One more question actually. I'm on the nc2 leak. Will flashing the nc4 full stock tar replace the bootloader and strand me as if I took the OTA?