I've searched but I can't find the answer for a VZW Note 3. Can I downgrade from KitKat to JB? The Android OS battery drain is driving me crazy
You can. I used this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627, still KK based but I have great battery life. Check your SD card. If you are using the SanDisk Ultra card replace it. It cooked my first note abd caused issues, including wicked battery drain, on the replacement.
simonintx said:
I've searched but I can't find the answer for a VZW Note 3. Can I downgrade from KitKat to JB? The Android OS battery drain is driving me crazy
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Did you take the NC4 OTA or did you upgrade via the NC2 leak? If you took the NC4 OTA there is no going back to JB. If you did the NC2 leak then yes you can.
thegamerdarkseid said:
Did you take the NC4 OTA or did you upgrade via the NC2 leak? If you took the NC4 OTA there is no going back to JB. If you did the NC2 leak then yes you can.
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I'm not sure. I installed a rooted stock KK version, then I tried to Odin back to JB and my phone went bonkers. A milIion hours later, I ended up installing the NC4 ROM that was suggested and I'm still testing the battery life. Losing about 10% per hour right now but I'm waiting for it to settle in. I was losing 2% per hour with JB.
simonintx said:
I'm not sure. I installed a rooted stock KK version, then I tried to Odin back to JB and my phone went bonkers. A milIion hours later, I ended up installing the NC4 ROM that was suggested and I'm still testing the battery life. Losing about 10% per hour right now but I'm waiting for it to settle in. I was losing 2% per hour with JB.
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from what it sounds you did take the update so you cant revert. when u say bonkers did it softbrick? as in bootloop?
the_rooter said:
from what it sounds you did take the update so you cant revert. when u say bonkers did it softbrick? as in bootloop?
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When I booted, the Safestrap screen would come up but it was really pixelated. It wouldn't respond when I tried to choose recovery or continue. After trying to install JB with Odin, that failed miserably and I ended up installing the NC4 ROM.
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Hey, i was lucky enough not to get NC2 update, Now that the root is out im thinking about updating.
im running NB4 with NC2 modem so, other then losing the A2 boot loader, i cant think of any benifts of updating.
let's discuss it?
I had no issues. Just follow instructions and you will be fine.
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Why would you update. NB4 has actually always been rootable with kingo root app. Stay there. Root with kingo so you can be able to jump between KK and JB whenever you want. If you update your NB4 to NC2 that means you're taking the new bootloader and then get stuck.
from my (not anymore) locked note 3!
K-Alzwayed said:
Why would you update. NB4 has actually always been rootable with kingo root app. Stay there. Root with kingo so you can be able to jump between KK and JB whenever you want. If you update your NB4 to NC2 that means you're taking the new bootloader and then get stuck.
from my (not anymore) locked note 3!
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Also... NB4 was more stable if you ask me. I have had issues with NC2, sleep death and random restarts.
SladeZero said:
Also... NB4 was more stable if you ask me. I have had issues with NC2, sleep death and random restarts.
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yeah man. NB4 was basically an MJ5. it was only 53 MB update which is a preparation for the "big update" that locked us down NC2.
from my (not anymore) locked note 3!
I figured NB4 was better the way im running it. Just thought id see what some of the guys at got stuck with KK had to say about now that they got root.
I'll update when a "restore to NC2" thread appears. Or we get an Odin flashable tar file for NC2. If you root and botch up NC2 you have to go to bestbuy for a reflash.
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I figured NB4 was better the way im running it. Just thought id see what some of the guys at got stuck with KK had to say about now that they got root.
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I was also lucky enough to be already rooted and able to freeze the update before all this kk calamity began. Now, with nova prime, xposed mods and zooper widget, I can't see how anything is going to be better than this! Everything works, the battery is great, no issues! I will stay put until something (the next big thing!) comes along that absolutely requires kk to run!
I deliberately updated to NC2 (Firekat) from MJ5 (Firenote) because I wanted to see if it would fix my very slow and inconsistent GPS locks (which neither Drakey's gpsfix nor a hardware effort to rebend my leaf pins helped). I'm glad to say that NC2 appears to have done the trick, so that is one thing in its favor. But if you're not having GPS issues, then I agree with most of the posters here -- no reason to lock yourself down (unless you're trying to cure being a flashaholic....)
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
This is the method I used it worked perfectly, I came from sprint sammy GS3 so this was a bit different but its great now! if you go under your devices and go to the android development forum you will see how to update to 4.4.2 after you obtain your 4.3 root with safestrap. this is the safest method so follow the link i posted and you should have no problems:good: also if you miss the aosp feel the eclipse rom is amazing..Good Luck
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Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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Oh also I stayed on the NC2 firmware when I went to kit kat from what I gathered in research its better than the NC4 for now
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
Lexus One said:
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
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There is nothing special you need to do while on 4.3. You can do just as you said but you also need to install SuperUser.
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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leyvatron said:
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
Lexus One said:
Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
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its not called alpha. [emoji12]
http://towelroot.com/
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I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
Lexus One said:
I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Lexus One said:
Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
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You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
airmaxx23 said:
You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
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Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
Lexus One said:
Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
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The NC2 bootloader is really the one to be on. The basic steps can be found in the install instructions in this ROM thread, you can use any ROM, it doesn't have to be Jasmine. Just use steps 1-12. More detailed instructions can be found in this thread but use the Odin files from the first thread.
Just curious on how to update my phone to KitKat and if it's even worth it. Rooted my phone a long time ago and am still on JB 4.3. Is there improvements on KitKat? What steps would I have to take to update my rooted phone?
Armyrj127 said:
Just curious on how to update my phone to KitKat and if it's even worth it. Rooted my phone a long time ago and am still on JB 4.3. Is there improvements on KitKat? What steps would I have to take to update my rooted phone?
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If you're thinking about it start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52116851
Once you're up and running, see how the NC2 modem works for you. If you're signal is weak, you try swapping out for the NC4 or MJE modem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47400062
Modems are flashed in Odin.
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Are you going to upgrade your phone in September to the N4? if so why do the SW upgrade?
ronaldheld said:
Are you going to upgrade your phone in September to the N4? if so why do the SW upgrade?
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I will not be getting the N4 anytime soon. I've been pretty content with JB 4.3 on cleanrom 1.7 but just curious if there are advantages with KitKat.
Armyrj127 said:
I will not be getting the N4 anytime soon. I've been pretty content with JB 4.3 on cleanrom 1.7 but just curious if there are advantages with KitKat.
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If that is true then you can upgrade to NC2 or NC4. The procedure seems straightforward.
I'm confused. What Exactly Do I have to flash? I'm downloading deodex NC2. Do I have to dl a kernel as well?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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Thanks
You are welcome. Hopefully it all goes smoothly.
I stock rooted a long time ago on MJE 4.3 I deleted the stock updater so it would stop bugging me to upgrade to the then "unrootable" 4.4 upgrade and to prevent my LTE signal from going to crap since I have a launch day Note3.
Can anyone confirm that I can go to Lollipop without radio issues like the Kitkat update had for launch day models? What process do I need to follow to go from 4.3 to 5.0?
Thanks!
vt_hokie2008 said:
I stock rooted a long time ago on MJE 4.3 I deleted the stock updater so it would stop bugging me to upgrade to the then "unrootable" 4.4 upgrade and to prevent my LTE signal from going to crap since I have a launch day Note3.
Can anyone confirm that I can go to Lollipop without radio issues like the Kitkat update had for launch day models? What process do I need to follow to go from 4.3 to 5.0?
Thanks!
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Not sure the difference between launch day models and other note 3s but if since you have root go ahead and install safe strap and update to 4.4.2 with beans stock rom and then upgrade using @hsbadr 's method to lollipop
CovXX said:
Not sure the difference between launch day models and other note 3s but if since you have root go ahead and install safe strap and update to 4.4.2 with beans stock rom and then upgrade using @hsbadr 's method to lollipop
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Thanks! So now my question is do launch day Note 3s do ok with Lollipop ROMs or does the signal drop to nothing like Kitkat. Anyone know?
vt_hokie2008 said:
Thanks! So now my question is do launch day Note 3s do ok with Lollipop ROMs or does the signal drop to nothing like Kitkat. Anyone know?
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There hasn't been any reported issues, I've seen better battery life and better reception outside and inside
Just did mine on Tmo N910T
erapmicks said:
Just did mine on Tmo N910T
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I did mine because of xposed and also I think I encountered several crashes on Lollipop.
I tried to give lollipop a chance but after 2 weeks and a couple of hard resets the battery life was still significantly worse than Kit Kat.
Flashed back yesterday and after investing 3 hours setting everything back up I'm really happy with my decision. Battery life is looking good again and I now realise that you loose more than you gain from running lollipop in is present state.
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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George.B said:
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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I was able to go from BOC2 to AOA1 via Odin full firmware flash on the sm-n910u.
Maybe you could try going back to 4.4.4 and then up to BOC2.
George.B said:
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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You should be able to. The root has no effect on Odin. Did you set it to download mode first?
It was giving me a headache but it's simple... Go into recovery while still on lollipop and do a factory reset, then a cache wipe, then do your Odin, it works no problem.
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i am seriously thinking about downgrading back to kitkat !!
Can i just download the KITKAT from sammobile and flash it via odin (after a factory reset and cleared cashes in recovery?)
another question, i want to root if i got back to kitkat, but on the website of chainfire the root file is made for android 5.0.1, can i root my Kitkat with this autoroot file ???
and do you know if Blurred UI (Xposed) works on kitkat ?
i dont like the UI on kitkat very much
Thanks in advance !
You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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but where did you find it ? can you give me a link maybe ?
on chainfire's website it only says 5.0.1
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i read somewhere that you have to do something with the bootloader to succesfully downgrade back to kitkat, is this true ?
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
Racinghart91 said:
i am seriously thinking about downgrading back to kitkat !!
Can i just download the KITKAT from sammobile and flash it via odin (after a factory reset and cleared cashes in recovery?)
another question, i want to root if i got back to kitkat, but on the website of chainfire the root file is made for android 5.0.1, can i root my Kitkat with this autoroot file ???
and do you know if Blurred UI (Xposed) works on kitkat ?
i dont like the UI on kitkat very much
Thanks in advance !
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You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
junkun13 said:
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
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I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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thanks !
so i dont have to do anything about the bootloader
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im downgrading right now !
i cant wait to get back on kitkat ! and use xposed again im happy like a pig in the sh*t :laugh:
so i downgraded succesfully !
Yeah !
but i cant root with the autoroot file from chainfires website, it fails.. it says something about recovery...
i dont think this has anything to do with it but, i downloaded the stock firmware from sammobile from Vodafone ( my phone was vodafone but on lollipop roms i downloaded the unbranded version) could this maybe be the problem ?
i fixed it, reactivation lock was still enabled ( i wanted to go to fast )
I downgraded because of Xposed and a better battery life
junkun13 said:
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
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I too shall be downgrading, I have really tried with Lollipop but its a bag of ****, my phone is laggy and the performance is terrible, I get about 6 hours less battery, this is after doing 3 factory resets now lol.
I know that the OD builds are meant to be better but Samsung have fudged the general LP rollout.
Rolled back yesterday and soooo relieved. My apps aren't being killed off, and I don't have horrendous Antutu.
Lollipop IS pretty though, KitKat is so Boring! Still, I'll wait for a better update, I'm very happy.
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Rolled back too, and there is such a big difference in touch response and general performance. Staying on Kitkat until they sort out Lollipop.
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I wonder if i can roll back? I am on n910g india model completely stock.
dr.m0x said:
I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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yes bug is there. apps can drain battery but eventhough i have 100 apps or something it only happens me with twitter and nba game time app. so battery can be changed by people cuz they use different apps. battery is great for me in lollipop alteast its totaly same with kitkat still 6 hours sot easyly.
general performance is way better in lollipop i compared it alot of times lollipop is much responsive smoother and faster in everywhere for me.