stay on NB4 or upgrade to rooted NC2 - AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General

Hey, i was lucky enough not to get NC2 update, Now that the root is out im thinking about updating.
im running NB4 with NC2 modem so, other then losing the A2 boot loader, i cant think of any benifts of updating.
let's discuss it?

I had no issues. Just follow instructions and you will be fine.
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Why would you update. NB4 has actually always been rootable with kingo root app. Stay there. Root with kingo so you can be able to jump between KK and JB whenever you want. If you update your NB4 to NC2 that means you're taking the new bootloader and then get stuck.
from my (not anymore) locked note 3!

K-Alzwayed said:
Why would you update. NB4 has actually always been rootable with kingo root app. Stay there. Root with kingo so you can be able to jump between KK and JB whenever you want. If you update your NB4 to NC2 that means you're taking the new bootloader and then get stuck.
from my (not anymore) locked note 3!
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Also... NB4 was more stable if you ask me. I have had issues with NC2, sleep death and random restarts.

SladeZero said:
Also... NB4 was more stable if you ask me. I have had issues with NC2, sleep death and random restarts.
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yeah man. NB4 was basically an MJ5. it was only 53 MB update which is a preparation for the "big update" that locked us down NC2.
from my (not anymore) locked note 3!

I figured NB4 was better the way im running it. Just thought id see what some of the guys at got stuck with KK had to say about now that they got root.

I'll update when a "restore to NC2" thread appears. Or we get an Odin flashable tar file for NC2. If you root and botch up NC2 you have to go to bestbuy for a reflash.

ditto
frome901 said:
I figured NB4 was better the way im running it. Just thought id see what some of the guys at got stuck with KK had to say about now that they got root.
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I was also lucky enough to be already rooted and able to freeze the update before all this kk calamity began. Now, with nova prime, xposed mods and zooper widget, I can't see how anything is going to be better than this! Everything works, the battery is great, no issues! I will stay put until something (the next big thing!) comes along that absolutely requires kk to run!

I deliberately updated to NC2 (Firekat) from MJ5 (Firenote) because I wanted to see if it would fix my very slow and inconsistent GPS locks (which neither Drakey's gpsfix nor a hardware effort to rebend my leaf pins helped). I'm glad to say that NC2 appears to have done the trick, so that is one thing in its favor. But if you're not having GPS issues, then I agree with most of the posters here -- no reason to lock yourself down (unless you're trying to cure being a flashaholic....)

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"Upgrade" from MLG to NC2 (leaked KK to OTA KK)

so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
amendolaro1 said:
so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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I want to upgrade from MLG to NC2 too. However, there is no direct way to do it at the moment.
However, if you are still at A2, you can use Safestrap to switch between MJ5 and NC2 (Please don't flash NC2 aboot.mbn!!!!!!)
Yes there is just do the mj5 restore that is in this section then follow one of the guides on how to install the ota
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As Jerrycoffman said. . . .
Restore back to MJ5 using this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Don't root using the last part. It removes knox which will block you from being able to update the phone.
Next there will be a OTA to install its around 60mb. This is NB4
Lastly, just download kitkat OTA that's available. This may take sometime because it is a larger file size.
A lot of people have had issues installing the Kitkat OTA (including me). It fails at a certain percentage.
If you have this problem just follow this guide to fix it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701062
Make sure you back up any apps and files you need before starting this
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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Agree 100%!!!
mutantblack said:
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
jreed3786 said:
There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
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i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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As far as I know, that's a NO.
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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Isis can work on kit kat. I had it working but changed to wallet out of principal
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Best solution:
Go to Best Buy and ask one of the Samsung people to get you to stock, in less than 10 to 15 minutes you'll be in OTA Kit Kat.
No reason to have OTA kitkat when you lose root.
I use ISIS daily with the following mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425346

[Q] Where are Files to Root SM-N900V Note 3, 4.3

I reccently purchased a Note 3 from Verizon back in April. It came with and still has 4.3. I have not recieved an OTA for Kit Kat from Verizon yet. I came from a Rooted Droid Razr. I have never flashed any ROMS. I do want to Root my Note 3 to be able to run all the Root apps I have purchased. I have a couple questions and would really appreciate if anyone could answer them for me. I am familiar with Root but Im no Pro. Again I have Never Flashed any Roms or anything.
#1 I have heard of two ways to Root the Note 3, KINGO & ODIN. Which method is the Best to use. I did see a Root method on XDA if you want to go to Kit Kat with the ability to go back to 4.3. As of right now I dont want KIT KAT bc of the SD card issues I've read about. I really just want 4.3 Rooted. Unless I am advised otherwise. Im really not sure what would be the best thing to do.
#2 Once I have Rooted my Note 3. If and When Verizon sends the OTA for Kit Kat. What should I do? Not take it? Want I have to dismiss it every 12 hour? That could get annoying.
#3 Whatever Root method you advise me. Can you leave me a Link to the Files and the Instructions on how to Root it? Thanks for any help. Jason
jasonsc1 said:
I reccently purchased a Note 3 from Verizon back in April. It came with and still has 4.3. I have not recieved an OTA for Kit Kat from Verizon yet. I came from a Rooted Droid Razr. I have never flashed any ROMS. I do want to Root my Note 3 to be able to run all the Root apps I have purchased. I have a couple questions and would really appreciate if anyone could answer them for me. I am familiar with Root but Im no Pro. Again I have Never Flashed any Roms or anything.
#1 I have heard of two ways to Root the Note 3, KINGO & ODIN. Which method is the Best to use. I did see a Root method on XDA if you want to go to Kit Kat with the ability to go back to 4.3. As of right now I dont want KIT KAT bc of the SD card issues I've read about. I really just want 4.3 Rooted. Unless I am advised otherwise. Im really not sure what would be the best thing to do.
#2 Once I have Rooted my Note 3. If and When Verizon sends the OTA for Kit Kat. What should I do? Not take it? Want I have to dismiss it every 12 hour? That could get annoying.
#3 Whatever Root method you advise me. Can you leave me a Link to the Files and the Instructions on how to Root it? Thanks for any help. Jason
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If you are on MJ9 baseband you can use the Odin method for root but if you are on MJE you will have to use Kingo 1.1.8 or lower to root. Once you have root on MJE you can go up to the NC2 KitKat leak and the SD card issue is fixed and the VZW OTA is disabled. You can disable the OTA on 4.3 by disabling or deleting SDM1 client.
Misterxtc said:
If you are on MJ9 baseband you can use the Odin method for root but if you are on MJE you will have to use Kingo 1.1.8 or lower to root. Once you have root on MJE you can go up to the NC2 KitKat leak and the SD card issue is fixed and the VZW OTA is disabled. You can disable the OTA on 4.3 by disabling or deleting SDM1 client.
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How do I know if I am on MJ9 or MJE? I looked throught my phones "About Phone" the only thing I can find close to that is the "Baseband Version" and mine is N900VVRUBMJE. Also the "Build Number" section ends in MJE. Im guessing this mean I am on the MJE. Right?
jasonsc1 said:
How do I know if I am on MJ9 or MJE? I looked throught my phones "About Phone" the only thing I can find close to that is the "Baseband Version" and mine is N900VVRUBMJE. Also the "Build Number" section ends in MJE. Im guessing this mean I am on the MJE. Right?
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Yes, you are on MJE
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Note 3 wont update to kitkat

Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
Inovazn628 said:
Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.
Thanks for the reply!
I've heard of people still taking the Ota while keeping root by putting supersu on survival mode though. Should I check that off and then click unroot in Supersu to take the Ota? Thanks
sfld said:
You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.
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You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
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donc113 said:
You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
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okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.
Inovazn628 said:
okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.
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Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
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Inovazn628 said:
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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Try installing just the nc4 radio for xlte. Have you tried the leaked NC2 KK? I'd stay rooted personally ... samsung stuff has too much bloat and will run like a pig.
donc113 said:
Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
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Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?
Inovazn628 said:
Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?
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not that I know of.
You may have to reflash MJE and reroot it.
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Seeking best advice

I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
This is the method I used it worked perfectly, I came from sprint sammy GS3 so this was a bit different but its great now! if you go under your devices and go to the android development forum you will see how to update to 4.4.2 after you obtain your 4.3 root with safestrap. this is the safest method so follow the link i posted and you should have no problems:good: also if you miss the aosp feel the eclipse rom is amazing..Good Luck
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Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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Oh also I stayed on the NC2 firmware when I went to kit kat from what I gathered in research its better than the NC4 for now
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
Lexus One said:
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
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There is nothing special you need to do while on 4.3. You can do just as you said but you also need to install SuperUser.
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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leyvatron said:
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
Lexus One said:
Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
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its not called alpha. [emoji12]
http://towelroot.com/
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I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
Lexus One said:
I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
airmaxx23 said:
Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Lexus One said:
Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
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You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
airmaxx23 said:
You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
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Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
Lexus One said:
Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
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The NC2 bootloader is really the one to be on. The basic steps can be found in the install instructions in this ROM thread, you can use any ROM, it doesn't have to be Jasmine. Just use steps 1-12. More detailed instructions can be found in this thread but use the Odin files from the first thread.

Root for Verizon Note 3

Now that we have lollipop for note 3 is there a root method
NO
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
simcardslot said:
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
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Thanks for the info...waiting patiently...
No root is not possible after nc4 it may never be possible to root we will most likely get a pre rooted rom able to be loaded on the nc4 bootloader
So when should we expect root for the note 3 running lollipop? Now that lollipop is out for the Verizon note 3 I mean.
Ask the Note 4 people. They have been waiting for root on lollipop longer and nothing yet. Expect nothing but there is always hope.
simcardslot said:
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
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Multisystem isn't a root, its something like safestrap
raze5115 said:
So when should we expect root for the note 3 running lollipop? Now that lollipop is out for the Verizon note 3 I mean.
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Don't expect it, Lollipop is some serious biz and the security is tougher than ever which is good
mirrin said:
No root is not possible after nc4 it may never be possible to root we will most likely get a pre rooted rom able to be loaded on the nc4 bootloader
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On it be able to load on the NC4 bl is a story untold yet though
Reilly1812 said:
Ask the Note 4 people. They have been waiting for root on lollipop longer and nothing yet. Expect nothing but there is always hope.
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Never expect anything just hope for it
Being able to boot from NC4 bootloader would be a plus! Then I can go back and forth between that and my trustworthy 4.4.2 ROM. Lolipop might not be able to load from an old bootloader though. We shall see.
christianpeso said:
Being able to boot from NC4 bootloader would be a plus! Then I can go back and forth between that and my trustworthy 4.4.2 ROM. Lolipop might not be able to load from an old bootloader though. We shall see.
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It was done before probably can be done again, not sure if they updated the bootloader just yet
Yeah that would be nice if we could go back to 4.4.2 where there was root for Android
CovXX said:
It was done before probably can be done again, not sure if they updated the bootloader just yet
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That was a while ago when it was done. 4.4.4 can not boot from NC4 firmware so more than likely 5.0 wont be able to do it either.
From reading HSBADRs thread, its looking like NC4 would be replaced by whatever the newest version is. There is no going back once you take his Lolipop ROM. So no backing up your 4.4.2 ROM before moving on because it wont work anymore. Safestrap will be gone as well and you will only have stock recovery.
Once you make that move to Lolipop, there is no going back to any of the previous ROMS that were released. That is a big commitment.
So no root for a while yet?

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