[Q] NB1 to NC1 ?? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Hello,
I am on 4.4.2 NB1. Is there any benefit to go from NB1 modem to NC1 modem? Is there any + side? Would I be able to go back to NB1 in case world turned upside down?
Thanks,

Unlike NB1, you can root NC1 with Towelroot, and yes, you can go back to NB1 if you need/want to.
My S4 came with NB1 out of the box. I took the NC1 OTA, rooted, debloated, installed xposed, etc.
No regrets at all.

Scott_S said:
Unlike NB1, you can root NC1 with Towelroot, and yes, you can go back to NB1 if you need/want to.
My S4 came with NB1 out of the box. I took the NC1 OTA, rooted, debloated, installed xposed, etc.
No regrets at all.
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I am on NB1 rooted (using rootable NB1 odin file). My concern was modem wise! Will it make any difference to go to NC1 ?

joseph230 said:
I am on NB1 rooted (using rootable NB1 odin file). My concern was modem wise! Will it make any difference to go to NC1 ?
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If you're not having any issues most likely the new modem won't any difference
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joseph230 said:
I am on NB1 rooted (using rootable NB1 odin file). My concern was modem wise! Will it make any difference to go to NC1 ?
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I missed the part in your original post wherein you specified that you were on NB1 rooted, and assumed you were misapplying the term "modem," given that anyone who's capable of flashing only the modem would hopefully already know that if they're able to flash one, they're able to flash another, even if it's their previous one.
Apparently I gave you too much credit.

Scott_S said:
I missed the part in your original post wherein you specified that you were on NB1 rooted, and assumed you were misapplying the term "modem," given that anyone who's capable of flashing only the modem would hopefully already know that if they're able to flash one, they're able to flash another, even if it's their previous one.
Apparently I gave you too much credit.
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:laugh:
I was worried it would break/lock something that might prevent going backwards! (Like what happens to bootloaders...I know bootloader is different than modem, but I thik it is better to ask beforehand).

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MJ7 to MJE help

Hi, already rooted, and have been running cleanrom on my MJ7 N3 for awhile now, and I see that many of the newer roms require MJE.
What would be the easist way to update to MJE, and could I just flash a MJE rom anyways?
(also I have deleted the stock rom for more space, worst case I'll odin back to stock, just wondering if there is a faster way than going back to stock, updating, then installing another custom rom.)
brex91 said:
Hi, already rooted, and have been running cleanrom on my MJ7 N3 for awhile now, and I see that many of the newer roms require MJE.
What would be the easist way to update to MJE, and could I just flash a MJE rom anyways?
(also I have deleted the stock rom for more space, worst case I'll odin back to stock, just wondering if there is a faster way than going back to stock, updating, then installing another custom rom.)
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You CAN flash MJE roms but you'll likely have wifi and signal issues. SOme have done it and worked around the issues.
Use Odin to flash MJE tar is best way to get to MJE. If Kingo is still slow, use Vroot.
For any help or links, check Note 3 link in my sig
OTA Survival?
az_biker said:
You CAN flash MJE roms but you'll likely have wifi and signal issues. SOme have done it and worked around the issues.
Use Odin to flash MJE tar is best way to get to MJE. If Kingo is still slow, use Vroot.
For any help or links, check Note 3 link in my sig
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Using paid version of SuperSU 1.93, (updated binaries) will it survive OTA? from MJ7 to MJE?
Mr. HQ said:
Using paid version of SuperSU 1.93, (updated binaries) will it survive OTA? from MJ7 to MJE?
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The results are kinda split on this. Some have said they survived OTA and many have said they lost root and had to Odin MJE anyway.
I usually tell folks to just Odin MJE and that way you only have to flash MJE ONCE

Seeking best advice

I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
This is the method I used it worked perfectly, I came from sprint sammy GS3 so this was a bit different but its great now! if you go under your devices and go to the android development forum you will see how to update to 4.4.2 after you obtain your 4.3 root with safestrap. this is the safest method so follow the link i posted and you should have no problems:good: also if you miss the aosp feel the eclipse rom is amazing..Good Luck
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Lexus One said:
I just recently purchased a Verizon Note 3 and would like some takeoff advice with this device. It came loaded with JB 4.3 and MJE baseband. I would like to upgrade the present stock JB 4.3 to KK 4.4.2 utilizing the best tools for the job. With root, a new recovery, and a reliable wifi hotspot apk too. I have found that it helps to get advice from an experienced user before potentially taking a wrong first step in unknown territory... Been there, done that.
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Oh also I stayed on the NC2 firmware when I went to kit kat from what I gathered in research its better than the NC4 for now
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
Lexus One said:
More importantly, is there anything that I MUST do while running JB4.3 that I can't do afterwards on 4.4.2? Like root with survival mode or something? Otherwise (from JB4.3) it looks like I could just install the OTA to 4.4.2 NC4 ... run Towelroot, install busybox, and then SafeStrap 3.72. So, is this a good or bad idea ???
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There is nothing special you need to do while on 4.3. You can do just as you said but you also need to install SuperUser.
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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leyvatron said:
Update, run the alpha root, install busybox, su, and safestrap. Download your ROM and flash it on the stock slot.
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Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
Lexus One said:
Could you help me find the "alpha root" method? I don't see it anywhere.
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its not called alpha. [emoji12]
http://towelroot.com/
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I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
Lexus One said:
I've been doing some reading in various places and have noticed that there are a good many people complaining about the 4.4.2 upgrade. Things like reception and battery issues...and the list goes on. They basically are saying that things were better before the update.
Would it be better (less problems overall) to upgrade via odin to 4.4.2 NC4...or just take the OTA route from the retail version 4.3 MJE...or should I stay on 4.3 and put up with the alleged GPS headaches...and bypass all the reception and battery issues?
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Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
airmaxx23 said:
Don't use the NC4 Odin or the OTA, root MJE then install a 4.4.2 ROM. That way you have the ability to go back to MJE if you want to, you can also try the different modems once you're on NC4 and find the one that works best for you.
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Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Lexus One said:
Thanks airmaxx, but I thought I read that I could use odin to go back if I wanted to after rooting the OTA NC4 with towelroot. Besides, if there are problems (as I've read) with 4.4.2 NC4, then it would make more sense not to upgrade at all. Or is NC4 really that much better even with the poorer reception and battery issues? Now I'm wondering what makes the NC4 upgrade worth the time and effort. Thanks again for your thoughts.
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You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
airmaxx23 said:
You can downgrade from 4.4.2 (NC4) if you root MJE and install a pre-rooted version (ROM). The OTA and NC4 tar file have a different bootloader which prevents downgrading. I've had no problems with battery or signal on NC4, keep in mind that people usually post when they have problems but rarely pay when things are working fine.
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Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
Lexus One said:
Now that is good to know. Thanks. So I can assume that the bootloader from retail 4.3 MJE is what I want to keep...even if I move to a 4.4.2 NC2 or NC4 rom?
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The NC2 bootloader is really the one to be on. The basic steps can be found in the install instructions in this ROM thread, you can use any ROM, it doesn't have to be Jasmine. Just use steps 1-12. More detailed instructions can be found in this thread but use the Odin files from the first thread.

NB1, should I upgrade to NC1?

Since i'm locked on SS is the kernel on NC1 better?
NB1 and NC1 are compatible at the boot loader level. That means even if you update to NC1, you can flash the full stock NB1 through Odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
jmjoyas said:
NB1 and NC1 are compatible at the boot loader level. That means even if you update to NC1, you can flash the full stock NB1 through Odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
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Yeah I saw that. It's not very clear as to why one would want that over the other.
lowspeed said:
Yeah I saw that. It's not very clear as to why one would want that over the other.
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Only reason to prefer NC1 is that you can use towelroot on it's kernel, but you could always flash NC1 kernel on NB1.

Help with Rooting

Helping out a friend with an S4 with on NB1. Phone has been sitting for a while. He wants me to set it up with a custom rom or at least root it. Have dabbled with the Verizon S4 but never with the AT&T version.
Can the bootloader be unlocked on NB1?
If not, an you go back to an older release to unlock the bootloader?
Is there a prefered root method for NB1?
Is there any benefit in staying with Nb1 vs taking the OTA?
Thanks
BB
Bad Bimr said:
Helping out a friend with an S4 with on NB1. Phone has been sitting for a while. He wants me to set it up with a custom rom or at least root it. Have dabbled with the Verizon S4 but never with the AT&T version.
Can the bootloader be unlocked on NB1?
If not, an you go back to an older release to unlock the bootloader?
Is there a prefered root method for NB1?
Is there any benefit in staying with Nb1 vs taking the OTA?
Thanks
BB
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The bootloader stlll cannot be unlocked on ATT S4. We still have a working recovery "safestrap". Safestrap doesnt replace existing stock recovery but is available during normal boot mode through a splash screen on bootup. Use safestrap version 3.72 or 3.75 and flash into stock slot itself. In case of issues, the phone can be recovered by Odin flashing the full NB1 firmware.
NB1 is not rootable. The next version NC1 is rootable with "towelroot". The latest NI1 is not directly rootable but can be rooted by Odin flashing the NC1 kernel.
You can manually update to NC1 and root.
There are a large number of ROMS that can be flashed on I337 including google play edition ones. AOSP/AOKP roms dont work though.
More info: All Thing AT&T
jmjoyas said:
The bootloader stlll cannot be unlocked on ATT S4. We still have a working recovery "safestrap". Safestrap doesnt replace existing stock recovery but is available during normal boot mode through a splash screen on bootup. Use safestrap version 3.72 or 3.75 and flash into stock slot itself. In case of issues, the phone can be recovered by Odin flashing the full NB1 firmware.
NB1 is not rootable. The next version NC1 is rootable with "towelroot". The latest NI1 is not directly rootable but can be rooted by Odin flashing the NC1 kernel.
You can manually update to NC1 and root.
There are a large number of ROMS that can be flashed on I337 including google play edition ones. AOSP/AOKP roms dont work though.
More info: All Thing AT&T
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So the easiest would be to Odin to a stock NC1 and you towelroot.
Any links to the stock NC1?
Thanks
BB
Bad Bimr said:
So the easiest would be to Odin to a stock NC1 and you towelroot.
Any links to the stock NC1?
Thanks
BB
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We do not have odin file for both NC1 and NI1. There is an update file that can be used with "adb sideload" to update your phone. How to update to NC1 is there in the link I provided.
jmjoyas said:
We do not have odin file for both NC1 and NI1. There is an update file that can be used with "adb sideload" to update your phone. How to update to NC1 is there in the link I provided.
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I tried towelroot to see if it works. It worked without a hitch. So I guesss the newest version works with NB1.
Thanks

S4 Back to Stock, TowelRoot NC1(I Think)

Right now I am running a AT&T Galaxy S4 rooted with towel root 4.4.2, and I have to send in my phone for repair because the screen is messed up. I think it is running the NC1 bootloader, as under Setting->About Device-> Baseband version and it is i337UCUFNC1. I have looked over the ODIN back to stock guides and do not see a stock rom for the NC1. Was wondering if its alright to use the NB1 update or should I be looking for something else. The build number is KOT49H.I337UCUFNC1. Thank you for any help.
seandidk said:
Right now I am running a AT&T Galaxy S4 rooted with towel root 4.4.2, and I have to send in my phone for repair because the screen is messed up. I think it is running the NC1 bootloader, as under Setting->About Device-> Baseband version and it is i337UCUFNC1. I have looked over the ODIN back to stock guides and do not see a stock rom for the NC1. Was wondering if its alright to use the NB1 update or should I be looking for something else. The build number is KOT49H.I337UCUFNC1. Thank you for any help.
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There is no full firmware for NC1. We only have an update over NB1.
You can safely flash NB1 using Odin.
Gotcha, thank you for the clarification .
So I can grab any NB1 stock file? Also is there any reason why not to grab the file from Sam Mobile?
seandidk said:
So I can grab any NB1 stock file? Also is there any reason why not to grab the file from Sam Mobile?
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Sammobile for some reason doesnt have the newer firmwares, has only MDB and MDL.
Read the return to stock of All Things AT&T

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