Since i'm locked on SS is the kernel on NC1 better?
NB1 and NC1 are compatible at the boot loader level. That means even if you update to NC1, you can flash the full stock NB1 through Odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
jmjoyas said:
NB1 and NC1 are compatible at the boot loader level. That means even if you update to NC1, you can flash the full stock NB1 through Odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
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Yeah I saw that. It's not very clear as to why one would want that over the other.
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Yeah I saw that. It's not very clear as to why one would want that over the other.
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Only reason to prefer NC1 is that you can use towelroot on it's kernel, but you could always flash NC1 kernel on NB1.
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Bear with me please. Upgraded to S4 from S3 that was running Task650 ROM.
I have searched and am a bit confused with the Locked, Loki Doki, MK2, etc. I have searched and cannot find info as far as what I can upgrade to without causing Locked Bootloader or other problems. I have read the FAQ's and they do not mention what to do if you are on MDB. Phone is 2 weeks old and all I have done to Root with Casual.
So what can I do with MDB without causing problems?
Thank you in advance!!!
You can do everything on mdb as you can on mdl. You can root and put a custom recovery on and use Odin. If it was me I'd use Odin to upgrade to mdl and then put cwm or twrp custom recovery on it. Then a custom Rom. You'll still need to use Loki.
jd1639 said:
You can do everything on mdb as you can on mdl. You can root and put a custom recovery on and use Odin. If it was me I'd use Odin to upgrade to mdl and then put cwm or twrp custom recovery on it. Then a custom Rom. You'll still need to use Loki.
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Should have said. I do also have TWRP on it now.
What advantage to MDL is there?
o2man98 said:
Should have said. I do also have TWRP on it now.
What advantage to MDL is there?
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Not much, it's just an update you can take without having to worry of locking the bootloader any tighter.
o2man98 said:
Should have said. I do also have TWRP on it now.
What advantage to MDL is there?
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As jd said, you have freedom and you can take the MDL odin just fine. But never take any OTA's or use any other ODIN packages, and if you're running stock then freeze the OTA apps or it will force update. Other than that remember to use loki when you flash and you'll be fine.
Sent from Black<3's I337 running Hyperdrive
I thought I saw in some rom OPS a few months that devs were recommending to be on mdl before flashing their rom. Maybe when some 4.3s came out. But not sure.
So I rooted my galaxy s4 AT&T and I rooted it while on mf3. Can I upgrade in kies or ota without breaking my phone? I don't care whether I keep my root or not.
dantheman1024 said:
So I rooted my galaxy s4 AT&T and I rooted it while on mf3. Can I upgrade in kies or ota without breaking my phone? I don't care whether I keep my root or not.
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Download the NB1 stock tar from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221 and flash using Odin.
jmjoyas said:
Download the NB1 stock tar from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221 and flash using Odin.
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Ok, thank you!
I have searched the topic and only found this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717175
Can I go from MF3 Hyperdrive rom 4.2.2. to a 4.4.4 custom rom or 4.3.X custom rom?
I really don't see any advantage still being on MF3. As far as I see, your best bet is to Odin flash the towelrootable version of NB1, root using towelroot, put selinux in permissive mode, install safestrap 3.72 and install a KitKat ROM from the big list of Roms available.
All required info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
never mind...
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will this NC1 update already be rooted and have SS installed? Or is it a zip with those files included to utilize during the aforementioned update process?
Zip file containing the updated SuperSU, SELinux mode changer, SS 3.72, Towelroot, and NC1 kernel modules can be found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53431153&postcount=1948
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When towelroot was initially released, only NC1 was rootable. We do not have the full firmware for NC1 but we do have for NB1 and that could be updated to NC1 using the update zip.
We now have a odin flashable firmware based on NB1 that is rootable with towelroot. So, there is no real need to update to NC1.
When flashing roms with safestrap, you would have to flash a zip containing the wifi modules based on the kernel you are using. If you have the NB1 firmware, you flash the NB1 kernel modules.
NB1 kernel modules can be obtained from the Deadly Venom Kitkat Magic tool thread. Download the NB1 version, extract and you should see a "AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip" file.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/swzhc0kg1x3l3mp/AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip
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When towelroot was initially released, only NC1 was rootable. We do not have the full firmware for NC1 but we do have for NB1 and that could be updated to NC1 using the update zip.
We now have a odin flashable firmware based on NB1 that is rootable with towelroot. So, there is no real need to update to NC1.
When flashing roms with safestrap, you would have to flash a zip containing the wifi modules based on the kernel you are using. If you have the NB1 firmware, you flash the NB1 kernel modules.
NB1 kernel modules can be obtained from the Deadly Venom Kitkat Magic tool thread. Download the NB1 version, extract and you should see a "AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip" file.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/swzhc0kg1x3l3mp/AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip
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I followed the instructions given in the above post. I tried to load the goldeneye rom and got a horrible att kernel error. is what you said in your post why? I'm just a bit behind. I loaded 4.2.2 hyperdrive and haven't touched my phone in about a year. I am on the
nc1 bb stock with root and recovery. I want a custom rom. Whats my next move? ty in advance.
Hello,
I am on 4.4.2 NB1. Is there any benefit to go from NB1 modem to NC1 modem? Is there any + side? Would I be able to go back to NB1 in case world turned upside down?
Thanks,
Unlike NB1, you can root NC1 with Towelroot, and yes, you can go back to NB1 if you need/want to.
My S4 came with NB1 out of the box. I took the NC1 OTA, rooted, debloated, installed xposed, etc.
No regrets at all.
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Unlike NB1, you can root NC1 with Towelroot, and yes, you can go back to NB1 if you need/want to.
My S4 came with NB1 out of the box. I took the NC1 OTA, rooted, debloated, installed xposed, etc.
No regrets at all.
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I am on NB1 rooted (using rootable NB1 odin file). My concern was modem wise! Will it make any difference to go to NC1 ?
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I am on NB1 rooted (using rootable NB1 odin file). My concern was modem wise! Will it make any difference to go to NC1 ?
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If you're not having any issues most likely the new modem won't any difference
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I am on NB1 rooted (using rootable NB1 odin file). My concern was modem wise! Will it make any difference to go to NC1 ?
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I missed the part in your original post wherein you specified that you were on NB1 rooted, and assumed you were misapplying the term "modem," given that anyone who's capable of flashing only the modem would hopefully already know that if they're able to flash one, they're able to flash another, even if it's their previous one.
Apparently I gave you too much credit.
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I missed the part in your original post wherein you specified that you were on NB1 rooted, and assumed you were misapplying the term "modem," given that anyone who's capable of flashing only the modem would hopefully already know that if they're able to flash one, they're able to flash another, even if it's their previous one.
Apparently I gave you too much credit.
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:laugh:
I was worried it would break/lock something that might prevent going backwards! (Like what happens to bootloaders...I know bootloader is different than modem, but I thik it is better to ask beforehand).
Helping out a friend with an S4 with on NB1. Phone has been sitting for a while. He wants me to set it up with a custom rom or at least root it. Have dabbled with the Verizon S4 but never with the AT&T version.
Can the bootloader be unlocked on NB1?
If not, an you go back to an older release to unlock the bootloader?
Is there a prefered root method for NB1?
Is there any benefit in staying with Nb1 vs taking the OTA?
Thanks
BB
Bad Bimr said:
Helping out a friend with an S4 with on NB1. Phone has been sitting for a while. He wants me to set it up with a custom rom or at least root it. Have dabbled with the Verizon S4 but never with the AT&T version.
Can the bootloader be unlocked on NB1?
If not, an you go back to an older release to unlock the bootloader?
Is there a prefered root method for NB1?
Is there any benefit in staying with Nb1 vs taking the OTA?
Thanks
BB
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The bootloader stlll cannot be unlocked on ATT S4. We still have a working recovery "safestrap". Safestrap doesnt replace existing stock recovery but is available during normal boot mode through a splash screen on bootup. Use safestrap version 3.72 or 3.75 and flash into stock slot itself. In case of issues, the phone can be recovered by Odin flashing the full NB1 firmware.
NB1 is not rootable. The next version NC1 is rootable with "towelroot". The latest NI1 is not directly rootable but can be rooted by Odin flashing the NC1 kernel.
You can manually update to NC1 and root.
There are a large number of ROMS that can be flashed on I337 including google play edition ones. AOSP/AOKP roms dont work though.
More info: All Thing AT&T
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The bootloader stlll cannot be unlocked on ATT S4. We still have a working recovery "safestrap". Safestrap doesnt replace existing stock recovery but is available during normal boot mode through a splash screen on bootup. Use safestrap version 3.72 or 3.75 and flash into stock slot itself. In case of issues, the phone can be recovered by Odin flashing the full NB1 firmware.
NB1 is not rootable. The next version NC1 is rootable with "towelroot". The latest NI1 is not directly rootable but can be rooted by Odin flashing the NC1 kernel.
You can manually update to NC1 and root.
There are a large number of ROMS that can be flashed on I337 including google play edition ones. AOSP/AOKP roms dont work though.
More info: All Thing AT&T
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So the easiest would be to Odin to a stock NC1 and you towelroot.
Any links to the stock NC1?
Thanks
BB
Bad Bimr said:
So the easiest would be to Odin to a stock NC1 and you towelroot.
Any links to the stock NC1?
Thanks
BB
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We do not have odin file for both NC1 and NI1. There is an update file that can be used with "adb sideload" to update your phone. How to update to NC1 is there in the link I provided.
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We do not have odin file for both NC1 and NI1. There is an update file that can be used with "adb sideload" to update your phone. How to update to NC1 is there in the link I provided.
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I tried towelroot to see if it works. It worked without a hitch. So I guesss the newest version works with NB1.
Thanks