I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).
So, before the phone arrives, you have plenty of time to educate yourself. There are thousands of threads regarding this topic.
Google and XDA are your friends.
Sent from my SM-N9005
first of all do not do any ota updates if you do like i did you can not root without tripping knox..if your lucky and your note comes with an early firmware you have a chance of rooting and not tripping knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487916
it all depends on what bootloader you have.but as far as i understand it you can not use twrp or cwm without tripping knox
cpgeek said:
I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).
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I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?
you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
cpgeek said:
I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?
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decardpain said:
you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
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is there anything that I can't do if i trigger knox (besides sending my phone to samsung's warranty service). does selinux still work properly if knox is triggered? what's the feature actually FOR (besides voiding warranty)?
cpgeek said:
I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
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I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
xclub_101 said:
I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
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yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?
You cannot Flash t-mobile modem on a att n9005 and vice versa. Samsung now =dictator, your freedom is slowly becoming....
cpgeek said:
yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?
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You will be very surprised
First things on the N9005 - disable security updates and reject any OTA updates, then check your existing firmware. Read in this forum and specifically in the AT&T forum if you can make things work, if you want to root read about knox and warranty.
I was using a samsung Epic touch and a customer gave me his old verizon Note3 and luckly ting supports GSM now.. soo whoo hoo!!
And while i don't hate the verizon OS.. i would prefer like cm1 1 or whatever is out with lollipop. I did some reading and see that 4.4.4 isn't rootable.. my phone is on 4.4.2 NC4, Am i able to get TWRP or CWM in there and change the rom? And i did searcha round.. but there is so much info and i wanted to be as specific as possible on my own phone to make sure i don't kill it...
Icetech3 said:
I was using a samsung Epic touch and a customer gave me his old verizon Note3 and luckly ting supports GSM now.. soo whoo hoo!!
And while i don't hate the verizon OS.. i would prefer like cm1 1 or whatever is out with lollipop. I did some reading and see that 4.4.4 isn't rootable.. my phone is on 4.4.2 NC4, Am i able to get TWRP or CWM in there and change the rom? And i did searcha round.. but there is so much info and i wanted to be as specific as possible on my own phone to make sure i don't kill it...
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You can root and install safestrap, which is based on TWRP. The bootloader is locked so non-stock ROMs like CM11 or anything Lollipop based is out of the question. There are some good stock based ROMs though.
I have been looking through the available 6.0.1 ROMs and wondering if there is a stable version for the 900T with no real issues? I have seen that some ROMs have had issues with GPS, which is something I highly need for my business trips. I need to be able to use the S-Pen functions as well, I am assuming that is baked into the ROMs. Also, when having to root the phone, in the past, I had heard that it removes the ability to use Knox. Is this still true? Just wanting to update from 5.0.1 and refresh my phone. Thanks!
You checked in the T-Mobile note 3 forum located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile ?
You need to know that; If you move to a custom M6.0.1 ROM, Samsung KNOX will be tripped and finished.
Also, Marshmallow/CM13 GPS is a trial/error process that you wont want to bother with if you want your travelling logged for work without hiccup.
If you want perfect Marshmallow, a 6.0.1 native device would suit better.
I have an unlocked S8 (G950U1) that I bought directly from Samsung and activated on my Sprint service in the US. There doesnt seem to be much activity in the ROMs section for Sprint so Im wondering if I am able to root and install recovery/ROMs on this device? Will it still work on the Sprint network? Its been a while since Ive messed around with rooting a phone (last time was S3/S4) and things are a lot different these days. Im not looking to do anything crazy, just be able to remove some bloat or install a ROM that has bloat removed. Im assuming Knox will get tripped with a custom recovery, so will that break security (fingerprint/face) and NFC pay apps?
ryan2202 said:
I have an unlocked S8 (G950U1) that I bought directly from Samsung and activated on my Sprint service in the US. There doesnt seem to be much activity in the ROMs section for Sprint so Im wondering if I am able to root and install recovery/ROMs on this device? Will it still work on the Sprint network? Its been a while since Ive messed around with rooting a phone (last time was S3/S4) and things are a lot different these days. Im not looking to do anything crazy, just be able to remove some bloat or install a ROM that has bloat removed. Im assuming Knox will get tripped with a custom recovery, so will that break security (fingerprint/face) and NFC pay apps?
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There is a root method and 1 rom look in dev sections
partcyborg rom 950u:good:
Also said root method can be a little overwhelming there will be errors along the way bust most are ok and normal read the whole thread Op several times....
As we have locked bootloaders we have to use an engineering kernel which is as well bl locked and we can only charge to 80% but it is a wonderful 80% that will most agreed beat stock SOTs
Premise: I have a rooted Note 4 and this is the first time that I'm trying to better understand Magisk and its functions.
I'm Italian and I'm going to buy the new Galaxy Note 9. In Italy you can take advantage of a "super value program" with which you can give back your old smartphone in order to obtain a cashback on the buy of the new smartphone.
I'd like to give back my Note 4, but I'm afraid that rooted smartphone cannot be accepted (not sure about this point).
For this reason, I'm going to flash back the original firmware, but the problem of Knox 0x1 will be still present. I know about efuse etc (I read a lot about that)... What I need is a way to hide/fake the counter. I read that Magisk was used for this purpose on other "Galaxy smartphones" in order to allow the use of apps like Samsung Pay. My question is (finally): is it possible to use Magisk to hide/fake the Knox counter on the official firmware of my Note 4?
No, after note 3 there is no way to hide knox status.