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Hi everyone. I am attempting to download the stock firmware for my Edge but can't find it. My phone has SM-G935A printed on the back. It is AT&T. The search feature on SAMMOBILE does not have that model. Is it ok to use a different firmware? It won't be AT&T anymore if I do, right?
The back of my phone gets really hot at times, especially right while booting. I wanted to try to root and put one of the custom ROMS on there but I am not doing anything till I find the correct Stock Firmware.
scm37390 said:
Hi everyone. I am attempting to download the stock firmware for my Edge but can't find it. My phone has SM-G935A printed on the back. It is AT&T. The search feature on SAMMOBILE does not have that model. Is it ok to use a different firmware? It won't be AT&T anymore if I do, right?
The back of my phone gets really hot at times, especially right while booting. I wanted to try to root and put one of the custom ROMS on there but I am not doing anything till I find the correct Stock Firmware.
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Check out this forum, https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/updated-935u-935a-live-links-pi3-t3501686. I'm running my AT&T S7 Edge on this firmware, WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better than stock AT&T. It has NO AT&T bloatware and it has the Mobile Data On/Off toggle listed in the quick toggles bar. Before you flash this on your phone check what build you're on in the "about phone" in settings. Here is the link with the latest stock AT&T Firmware, https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/firmware-pi2-s7-edge-sm-g935a-10-03-16-t3477246. Download to your pc in case you want to flash back to stock. Don't root, not really stable if you do and you can't install any other firmware / ROM unless you flash 935U Firmware. You can brick your phone or even trip Knox counter and that will void your warranty if you needed to return to AT&T or Samsung.
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Check out this forum, https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/updated-935u-935a-live-links-pi3-t3501686. I'm running my AT&T S7 Edge on this firmware, WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better than stock AT&T. It has NO AT&T bloatware and it has the Mobile Data On/Off toggle listed in the quick toggles bar. Before you flash this on your phone check what build you're on in the "about phone" in settings. Here is the link with the latest stock AT&T Firmware, https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/firmware-pi2-s7-edge-sm-g935a-10-03-16-t3477246. Download to your pc in case you want to flash back to stock. Don't root, not really stable if you do and you can't install any other firmware / ROM unless you flash 935U Firmware. You can brick your phone or even trip Knox counter and that will void your warranty if you needed to return to AT&T or Samsung.
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Hi and thanks. I don't care about warranty. I am thankful you explained that "ROOT" makes it unstable. How is it possible to flash custom ROMS without ROOT? Why is it so hard to find the dang firmware? I went back on that dang Sammobil to look for the stock firmware for a friends Verizon S7 Edge and I can't find THAT but NOW THE AT&T is there!!!!
It sounds to me like you are coming from an older phone that had an unlocked bootloader? Back in the day when flashing a new rom like paranoid or slimrom was the fun and cool way to differentiate your device from your friends. That was also a time when android was about as locked down as ios is now, and ios was still locking users into their own keyboard, and Samsung was scrapping with apple at every turn for the top seat in the mobile phone market. My how things have changed.
Android is much more open in some ways, there are far fewer things that most people need that require root access, and the device manufacturers have also begun locking down the devices much more. At least in the Samsung line, I don't know when the last US variant flagship bootloader was freely unlocked? The s3? I know I had a Verizon s6 that I could not even achieve root on following a certain point in the release cycle. Now we have all of these fun new terms like systemless root, magisk and engineering bootloader. It really comes down with what is your desired outcome from rooting. You can actually get a long way towards what you could do back then with a Samsung theme and the right apps.
I believe what ytaida is referring to is the ability to flash other s7 roms onto your phone. So while we may not be able to flash custom roms, anything with the correct bootloader can still be flashed. Typically with a phone that is only going to be in the same model, but Samsung kind of threw a curveball and created an incestual path for the s7. With their U firmware, (the 930U and 935U firmware shipped on the devices sold directly from Samsung as was mentioned above) you could flash an official version of that onto the tmobile, Verizon, att and a few other carriers hardware, and essentially change the model of the phone. From there changing it back was equally as easy, except changing it back could be changing a Verizon model into an att model. The radios were all the same. In this process a root exploit was achieved and some very smart (I am humbled by their knowledge and determination on these sites every day) folks started hacking together roms. So you will see some neat stuff done where you are never truly running as root, but there were modifications done as root somewhere along the line. Long story only mildly shorter. Be careful how far down the rabbithole you take this.
The next thing you know it could be 6am and you realize you've been downloading and archiving your own copies of stock Samsung firmware for the last 20 hours, for devices you don't even have lol..
Sure there are still custom roms out there, but as a US customer, if that is what you're looking for you are best off with a nexus device or One Plus.
scm37390 said:
Hi and thanks. I don't care about warranty. I am thankful you explained that "ROOT" makes it unstable. How is it possible to flash custom ROMS without ROOT? Why is it so hard to find the dang firmware? I went back on that dang Sammobil to look for the stock firmware for a friends Verizon S7 Edge and I can't find THAT but NOW THE AT&T is there!!!!
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Is not hard, just need to look in correct forum. BTW what firmware you want. You can find any firmware you want for both models. Just look harder.
On Edge of Galaxy
A few things:
1) There doesn't appear to be any physical difference between the 935A, 935T, and 935U. You can, as long as you mind the bootloader version, freely switch between the three versions. I'm not sure about the Verizon and Spring versions.
2) The 935A FW link is around here. I've used it, and it worked fine, but you will be on tap for a few OTA updates.
3) The 935T FW link is actually available in several places, but there is a direct link over in the T-Mobile S7E forum. I'm not really sure what it gets you that the 935U doesn't, though. It has less bloat than AT&T, about the same amount of branding, and AT&T still refuses to let you have access to the more advanced call features. It does appear to be a lot less laggy than the 935A, though - AT&T really screwed up the Nougat upgrade compared to everyone else. It will likely get updates faster as well, and T-mobile doesn't have provisioning checks for tethering.
4) The 935U FW link is also "stock" for this phone, and works much better in many respects (it's certainly faster and less laggy) The difference between the 935A/935T and 935U firmware is that the former two have all the software needed for AT&T/T-mobile specific features, like WiFi calling, VoLTE, Visual Voicemail, etc. The latter has none of those things, but it does give you back BT tethering, disables the checks for WiFi and USB tethering, along with a few other features that were disabled.
Thus, you need to decide what is more important. Carrier specific calling features or more tethering options and overall better performance and battery life.
Please check the ORIGINAL post date!!!
I got the help I needed MONTHS ago. For those of you actually attempting to help,
"THANKS".
NORBARB, as a "SENIOR MEMBER" I would have expected much more than that and again, please look at the date I posted that question. Of course the firmware has shown up now. I don't even own that phone anymore.
How do you determine bootloader version?
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A few things:
1) There doesn't appear to be any physical difference between the 935A, 935T, and 935U. You can, as long as you mind the bootloader version, freely switch between the three versions. I'm not sure about the Verizon and Spring versions.
2) The 935A FW link is around here. I've used it, and it worked fine, but you will be on tap for a few OTA updates.
3) The 935T FW link is actually available in several places, but there is a direct link over in the T-Mobile S7E forum. I'm not really sure what it gets you that the 935U doesn't, though. It has less bloat than AT&T, about the same amount of branding, and AT&T still refuses to let you have access to the more advanced call features. It does appear to be a lot less laggy than the 935A, though - AT&T really screwed up the Nougat upgrade compared to everyone else. It will likely get updates faster as well, and T-mobile doesn't have provisioning checks for tethering.
4) The 935U FW link is also "stock" for this phone, and works much better in many respects (it's certainly faster and less laggy) The difference between the 935A/935T and 935U firmware is that the former two have all the software needed for AT&T/T-mobile specific features, like WiFi calling, VoLTE, Visual Voicemail, etc. The latter has none of those things, but it does give you back BT tethering, disables the checks for WiFi and USB tethering, along with a few other features that were disabled.
Thus, you need to decide what is more important. Carrier specific calling features or more tethering options and overall better performance and battery life.
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I'm interested in switching my unlocked Tmobile G935T to ATT G935A to take advantage of Wi-fi Calling. I'm not sure how to make sure I select the AT&T firmware that has the same bootloader as mentioned above.
This is a weird one and I have a case with Google open, unfortunately you need to talk with all the levels of support before you can talk to someone that actually knows anything.
Got a Galaxy S8 SM-G950F, decided to play around with it so unlocked the bootloader and flashed a few ROMs and such. Decided to use it for work so I returned it to stock flashing the original stock rom for my carrier with Odin and then disabled OEM Unlock.
All good and peaches but when I tried to use my work G Suite account I got a cannot create work profile error blaming a Custom OS install (first attached image).
Keep in mind I am the G Suite Admin for my company and I know we don't check for unlocked bootloaders, custom roms and root and we have lots of people on custom roms, there is a specific option for that so I am sure we don't enforce that. But even if, the device has knox triggered but is now fully stock as you can see in the second attached image.
I have since tried a Samsung Smart Sync restore as well, but it didn't fix the issue, everything on my device says it is stock and in an official status, Google is clueless as well so far.
Not much hope anyone met this as it seems to be fairly mind blowing and unique, but worth a try
bubbl3 said:
This is a weird one and I have a case with Google open, unfortunately you need to talk with all the levels of support before you can talk to someone that actually knows anything.
Got a Galaxy S8 SM-G950F, decided to play around with it so unlocked the bootloader and flashed a few ROMs and such. Decided to use it for work so I returned it to stock flashing the original stock rom for my carrier with Odin and then disabled OEM Unlock.
All good and peaches but when I tried to use my work G Suite account I got a cannot create work profile error blaming a Custom OS install (first attached image).
Keep in mind I am the G Suite Admin for my company and I know we don't check for unlocked bootloaders, custom roms and root and we have lots of people on custom roms, there is a specific option for that so I am sure we don't enforce that. But even if, the device has knox triggered but is now fully stock as you can see in the second attached image.
I have since tried a Samsung Smart Sync restore as well, but it didn't fix the issue, everything on my devices says it is stock and in an official status, Google is clueless as well so far.
Not much home anyone met this as it seems to be fairly mind blowing and unique, but worth a try
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Wouldn't be surprised if this is Knox related. Once Knox is tripped it is permanent. That's why if you try to open s health on a Knox tripped stock firmware it says it won't open because it's rooted even though it's not rooted
sofir786 said:
Wouldn't be surprised if this is Knox related. Once Knox is tripped it is permanent. That's why if you try to open s health on a Knox tripped stock firmware it says it won't open because it's rooted even though it's not rooted
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Never been a problem in the past with Google, unless they started to check for Knox. Still, we have the "Compromised Devices" check disabled, should be considered a bug if their app is triggered by that
bubbl3 said:
Never been a problem in the past with Google, unless they started to check for Knox. Still, we have the "Compromised Devices" check disabled, should be considered a bug if their app is triggered by that
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The thing is, a lot of the newer Samsung's once Knox is tripped that's it, it can't be hidden unless by custom rom and kernel, older devices like the s3 and s4 you could reset the Knox counter, and most other phones root is easily hidden, and bypassed. But Knox is on a boot loader level, the app can't do anything to change that, and I doubt it will ever be fixed.
yes it is true, since the galaxy s7 , knox counter is hardware so once its broken its permanent, no matter if you are on custom/stock/rooted/unrooted rom or firmware. once knox is broken I highly suggest to use custom rom
I actually got in touch with Samsung and they confirmed that Knox shouldn't matter for Google Apps unless they check for it, but we have the option to check for it disabled on the admin side.
We also have 2 users with rooted S7 that don't have this issue.
I bet this one will be messy to sort out, if ever...
Solution?
bubbl3 said:
I actually got in touch with Samsung and they confirmed that Knox shouldn't matter for Google Apps unless they check for it, but we have the option to check for it disabled on the admin side.
We also have 2 users with rooted S7 that don't have this issue.
I bet this one will be messy to sort out, if ever...
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Did you ever solve this issue? I have more or less same problem on S8 with Pie
DRDSVK11 said:
Did you ever solve this issue? I have more or less same problem on S8 with Pie
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Did not resolve and sold the phone before any custom rom was available. After being escalated to an engineer, we used apt to check the events in real time on the phone and we noticed that Samsung intercept the request from G Suite MDM to encrypt the storage to use its own knox based encryption and becuase of the knox counter it fails.
Nothing Google can do, not sure if a custom rom would solve, definitely you would need at least a completely custom kernel to avoid this trick that Samsung is pulling off, good luck!
probably knox is stipped but that shouldnt affect google apps as safetynet doesnt rely on knox maybe you could try actually using a custom rom with custom kernel that spoofs knox 0x0
I dont know if this work on all devices, but i know the solution, replace ManagedProvisioning apk, usually on /system/priv-app/ , take a replacement from stock aosp gsi from phhuson (you must pick correct gsi for example like your android version and architecture must be the same). this little trick is working on my stock j7 prime oreo.
So I have been following XDA for the past 5 years and this is my very first post. Have some experience with flashing custom roms on different phones and most recently a T-mobile S7-edge (SM-G935T). I flashed a (SM-G935U) firmware on it for the sake of debloating and fully unlocking the device. It worked like a charm, now am tinkering around with a Verizon Note 4 and am unable to find the answers I seek. The problems with this stock firmware is that it is heavily bloated with carrier apps , gets slow at times , unable to use data, hotspot and other such functionalities making me search the internet to flash it with a stock rom which solves all these problems. My question is that what things should i keep in my mind to find a compatible rom and secondly , are these roms for Note-4 (snapdragon variants) interchangeable as done with S7-edge mentioned above. And if it is then what rom will be best to flash for use in Asia. Necessary Information will be provided upon demand. Replies and comments will be appreciated. :fingers-crossed: . P.S I dont wanna flash any unofficial builds.
Yes you can. I have a Verizon Note 4 and I used this method in order to first unlock the bootloader, then flash Magisk for systemless root.
Unlock bootloader and root VZ galaxy note 4: https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...asy-guide-how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-t3454593.
Install Magisk: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
changing SM-N910v firmware with SM-N910c
SO i just Went thru the internet and found out that Asian Versions of Note 4 had SM-N910c firmware variant flashed to them, should I flash it? any suggestions?
As an experienced flasher of over 20 Note 4 devices (plus a few more), be careful flashing firmware for other Note 4 devices on a Verizon Note 4 unit. They usually will not work. Several varieties of the device are Snapdragon processors. However the C model is an Exynos processor. This would be like installing IOS software on an Android device. They are not interchangeable. You'd be best to stick with something designed for your N device.
Even then ... using a different ROM (maybe for T or F) can lead to only partial usability of that device. Your data may not work, your cell service may not work, your wifi may not work, etc... Or it won't even boot at all.
Thankfully, Samsung has provided us with ODIN, which is a software program to reflash a device that's been hosed by a malformed ROM. If you want your phone to work, remember the following:
1. Only flash COMPATIBLE software for the processor.
2. Only flash the same variant of ROM to that device (VZW in this case). This is to prevent data carrier problems. An F ROM may boot, but not be fully functional.
3. If you want to try a new unofficial ROM, get one for that device and processor. Be aware that compatibility is not always guaranteed, but Lineage OS 9 ROMS are better than Android 8 as for compatibility. I've tried them all.
4. A stock ROM will have bloatware. If you are rooted, you can remove most of that (if you know how).
5. Last but not least... if you want to stick close to stock, use ModestROM. You'll get 6.01 and some bloatware, but it will be closest to stock as possible with root. Other ROMS might work, but for full functionality, stick with a ROM designed for your device. Otherwise you will experience problems, or worse. You could have a new paperweight!
I am new to rooting phones and I have a couple of questions first can I use the s pen after rooting second what is the easiest way to root the phone and third what to I get for rooting the phone apart for newer software.
Pizzaking587 said:
I am new to rooting phones and I have a couple of questions first can I use the s pen after rooting second what is the easiest way to root the phone and third what to I get for rooting the phone apart for newer software.
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Hola! Welcome to XDA.
First of all I would just like to give a friendly reminder to include your model number in your post. For instance, my Note 4 model variant is the SM-N910V. From what I've read the 910V is the trickiest to root other than the SM-N910A which never had a method of rooting as far as I know. So if you're using an AT&T phone aka SM-N910A then you're unfortunately out of luck. I think most other variants are relatively easy to root depending on your experience level.
Spen functionality depends on the kind of rom you're wanting to use. I mostly just use a modified 6.0.1 TouchWiz rom and the spen works as good as if I didn't have root. In case you're wondering, the note 4 officially received 6.0.1 (Marshmallow) and TouchWiz is what Samsung branded their software (until recently anyway). If you want to run anything newer than 6.0.1 your chances of a working spen decreases, but that also depends on your particular model. The note 4's with the exynos chip has a Nougat port that I believe has a working spen.
The last question, what can you do with a rooted device, all depends on what you use your phone for. It really would take a long time to list the possibilities. If you have something specific in mind I could try to point you in the right direction though.
My model is sm n910f (I think it is the international version but I am not sure) abd I mostly want newer software that supports the s pen
Edit: it is the unlocked European version
kevintm78 said:
Hola! Welcome to XDA.
First of all I would just like to give a friendly reminder to include your model number in your post. For instance, my Note 4 model variant is the SM-N910V. From what I've read the 910V is the trickiest to root other than the SM-N910A which never had a method of rooting as far as I know. So if you're using an AT&T phone aka SM-N910A then you're unfortunately out of luck. I think most other variants are relatively easy to root depending on your experience level.
Spen functionality depends on the kind of rom you're wanting to use. I mostly just use a modified 6.0.1 TouchWiz rom and the spen works as good as if I didn't have root. In case you're wondering, the note 4 officially received 6.0.1 (Marshmallow) and TouchWiz is what Samsung branded their software (until recently anyway). If you want to run anything newer than 6.0.1 your chances of a working spen decreases, but that also depends on your particular model. The note 4's with the exynos chip has a Nougat port that I believe has a working spen.
The last question, what can you do with a rooted device, all depends on what you use your phone for. It really would take a long time to list the possibilities. If you have something specific in mind I could try to point you in the right direction though.
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My model is sm n910f (I think it is the international version but I am not sure) abd I mostly want newer software that supports the s pen
Edit: it is the unlocked European version
kevintm78 said:
Hola! Welcome to XDA.
First of all I would just like to give a friendly reminder to include your model number in your post. For instance, my Note 4 model variant is the SM-N910V. From what I've read the 910V is the trickiest to root other than the SM-N910A which never had a method of rooting as far as I know. So if you're using an AT&T phone aka SM-N910A then you're unfortunately out of luck. I think most other variants are relatively easy to root depending on your experience level.
Spen functionality depends on the kind of rom you're wanting to use. I mostly just use a modified 6.0.1 TouchWiz rom and the spen works as good as if I didn't have root. In case you're wondering, the note 4 officially received 6.0.1 (Marshmallow) and TouchWiz is what Samsung branded their software (until recently anyway). If you want to run anything newer than 6.0.1 your chances of a working spen decreases, but that also depends on your particular model. The note 4's with the exynos chip has a Nougat port that I believe has a working spen.
The last question, what can you do with a rooted device, all depends on what you use your phone for. It really would take a long time to list the possibilities. If you have something specific in mind I could try to point you in the right direction though.
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Pizzaking587 said:
My model is sm n910f (I think it is the international version but I am not sure) abd I mostly want newer software that supports the s pen
Edit: it is the unlocked European version
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The international version is the SM-N910C
But regardless, the 910F has a huge amount of rom development, i would say you just need to dive into the note 4 snapdragon rom thread and get used to flashing your phone in odin, all the resources you need are right here!
Good luck and enjoy
Good morning all,
I'm a returning member from quite a few years back, haven't loaded a ROM or rooted an Android device in years. My question is this, I have a S10+ G975U and working in IT, have some security based concerns with this (and any) device:
Items installed against my will (COVID trackers, etc)
Access given to bloatware that is not able to be uninstalled (AR programs, etc)
Bloatware I don't want or need
Given this, I also understand the necessity of keeping devices up-to-date and check firmware updates on a near daily basis. Is there a root/ROM that will allow me better control, security, ability to control what apps/features are installed and stay up to date in a reasonable manner?
Thanks ahead.
Not on the G975U with a locked bootloader. Root nor a custom ROM is possible.
StoneyJSG said:
Not on the G975U with a locked bootloader. Root nor a custom ROM is possible.
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Crap, well, guess I need a new device in the near future. Guess I'll post up for recommendations. I want something within these specs that gives me the most control over data, privacy and what is and isn't on the phone.