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[Q] Question about root

Hi guys, I've bought my new galaxy note 3 two days ago and I want to root it.
I've carefully read almost everything about root and knox, but some things are still obscure to me.
My note is running on Android 4.3
AP on N9005XXUDNK2
CP on N9005XXUDBJ7
CSC on MK2
According to the URDLV thread, I can't root AND keep my knox to 0x0
so my questions are:
There is any other way to root and keep my knox to 0x0 ?
If not, and if I still want root my phone, there is any advantage to use ROOT de la Vega instead of the cf-auto-root or any other way ?
(The cf way seem to be easier and faster)
Thank a lot for your help and sorry for my english :/

WormsCH said:
Hi guys, I've bought my new galaxy note 3 two days ago and I want to root it.
I've carefully read almost everything about root and knox, but some things are still obscure to me.
My note is running on Android 4.3
AP on N9005XXUDNK2
CP on N9005XXUDBJ7
CSC on MK2
According to the URDLV thread, I can't root AND keep my knox to 0x0
so my questions are:
There is any other way to root and keep my knox to 0x0 ?
If not, and if I still want root my phone, there is any advantage to use ROOT de la Vega instead of the cf-auto-root or any other way ?
(The cf way seem to be easier and faster)
Thank a lot for your help and sorry for my english :/
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Both URDLV and mobile odin cannot root without tripping knox with your phone bootloader.
Cf auto root is much easier. That's the advantage.

So, let's root with CF
and I hope someone will manage to find how to reset the knox. I'll add some $ to the bounty.
After rooting, will still be able to use OAT update ?

WormsCH said:
So, let's root with CF
and I hope someone will manage to find how to reset the knox. I'll add some $ to the bounty.
After rooting, will still be able to use OAT update ?
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Yes, RDLV will not trip your Knox, CF root does, correct me if I'm wrong. Once Knox is tripped, no OTA.

WormsCH said:
So, let's root with CF
and I hope someone will manage to find how to reset the knox. I'll add some $ to the bounty.
After rooting, will still be able to use OAT update ?
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Just now i flash back official firmware. No rooting, no custom recovery, still my phone status shows custom. So i think as long as you trip knox it will always show custom regardless if you're using stock or custom rom. However wanam exposed can revert it to official but not sure if OTA will work or not since no other update for my country but it does show 'your device is up to date' thing when i tried to update through OTA. So i guess it will work
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scarcett said:
Yes, RDLV will not trip your Knox, CF root does, correct me if I'm wrong. Once Knox is tripped, no OTA.
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Not likely with MK2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850

Ok, thank for your answers
One last question. I guess I'll not be able to use the installed app KNOX after the flag switched to 0x1 ?

WormsCH said:
Ok, thank for your answers
One last question. I guess I'll not be able to use the installed app KNOX after the flag switched to 0x1 ?
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Nope once the flag is 0x1 no knox (for now).

Root without trigger Knox

Hi,
I'm new in Samsung Galaxy Note 3 forum. I bought one recently and already had Android KiTKat 4.4.2 firmware update. Now i want to root my device but safetly without trigger knox. Anyone know a solution? Maybe with Kingo Android Root?
Thx

Welcome. Your answer is all over the place.
Sent from my N9005

to tell you the truth , im here for 3 years rooted my s2 , nexus 4/5 , never post anything and was all the time able to find what i needed...
looked everywhere and i still didn't found an answer to my question..
how to root my note 3 n900 without tripping knox on 4.2.2... or if its impossible..
i know tha note 3 n9005 is problematic , but in all the post says that Galaxy Note 3 Exynos can be rooted without tripping knox...

Dejan Sathanas said:
Welcome. Your answer is all over the place.
Sent from my N9005
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Men7a said:
to tell you the truth , im here for 3 years rooted my s2 , nexus 4/5 , never post anything and was all the time able to find what i needed...
looked everywhere and i still didn't found an answer to my question..
how to root my note 3 n900 without tripping knox on 4.2.2... or if its impossible..
i know tha note 3 n9005 is problematic , but in all the post says that Galaxy Note 3 Exynos can be rooted without tripping knox...
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Thx.
I will try to find an answer for my question.

4.4.2 cannot be rooted safely without tripping Knox

voncrane said:
4.4.2 cannot be rooted safely without tripping Knox
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Yes, it seems u're right but i found this german website:http://www.mobtivity.com/de/news/galaxy-note-3-update-auf-android-kitkat-mit-root-und-knox-0x0.html.
Anyone can explain what is this?

This link is an interesting read....
This douchbag tells us nothing about knox or even warns about it...
then says you can root 4.4.2 and it will Void your warrenty(by this he means knox 0x1)
he then goes on to saying you can reflash 4.4.2 without root to "get back your warrenty".
i guess he doesnt know that once its 0x1 it cant be reset...
or he knows something we dont..???
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...-3-lte-sm-n9005-new-xxuenb7-firmware-tutorial

HC4Life said:
Yes, it seems u're right but i found this german website:http://www.mobtivity.com/de/news/galaxy-note-3-update-auf-android-kitkat-mit-root-und-knox-0x0.html.
Anyone can explain what is this?
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This should be an interesting read for you.
All you wanted to know about KNOX Void Warranty 0×1: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/

voncrane said:
This should be an interesting read for you.
All you wanted to know about KNOX Void Warranty 0×1: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
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This is not new for me, i'm aware of this, I had a Samsung S4...when u are a flashmaniac u take risks... I sold my S4 with Knox 0x1. But i guess some people don't care about Knox when they want to flash custom roms. Anyway this Knox s**t is ridiculous. Samsung made a bad move and many samsung fans will never buy a samsung device anymore.

Rooting SGS4

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I am really confused as always I used to find the thread for rooting my SGS4 but with the new firmware upgrade (Russia region), I can not find how to root it, and I am not upgrading it as it is important for me. Specification I am attaching (from similar updraded phone already) .
it should be PDA: I9500XXUFNF4CSC: I9500SERFNE3 MODEM: I9500XXUFNA6 (I can only find with PDA I9500XXUFNB4 in this site).
I would certainly appreciate your guidance in this matter, as only after being sure I had the needed .tar and odin, as I always root it with ODIN being the simplest and safest way, I always upgrade via KIES.
I was directed to post here.
Thank You in advance

Just use the normal rooting.
cf auto root or towelroot.
Firmware doesn't matter.

I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/

towelroot
fcornejo said:
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
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I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you

avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app

avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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Use towelroot if you don't want to lose your warranty (because you will void konx )

Trigger Knos
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply

Warranty
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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I am not so sure about towelroot never used it that is why I am avaoiding, triggering Knox I do not know what it means? Anyway when you root your phone you lose warranty so what difference does it make?

avadis99 said:
Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
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knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...

Thank you for the explanatiom as such it means it does not harm the phone or prevent future upgrades? If so I prefer to root as I had done before. I have no intention of downgrading but surely would like to continue upgrading. I always use my rooted phone with Knox frozen
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clarification
fcornejo said:
knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
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Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN

avadis99 said:
Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
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You can check by entering to download mode...

One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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avadis99 said:
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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It will only affect your ability to downgrade......you won't be able to with official firmware. Upgrading is still possible and the Knox flag being triggered will not affect you upgrading but will never re-set the trigger.

Thank you so much
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Un-Root S5 GM-900F with Odin

Hi,
Its been a few years since ive Rooted or been ontop of the forums ect.
Just wanted to let other people know my experience with Un-Rooting my S5 GM-900F
- Rooted with Odin + tar file
- Un-Rooted with Super SU
- Typically their is now an update available but cannot update as Samsung recognise that the phone was previously rooted.
- On a PC or Mac download Kies and update.
- Nothing has flagged up with any counters, did not experience any problems with KNOX
Hope this helps everyone.

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Its been a few years since ive Rooted or been ontop of the forums ect.
Just wanted to let other people know my experience with Un-Rooting my S5 GM-900F
- Rooted with Odin + tar file
- Un-Rooted with Super SU
- Typically their is now an update available but cannot update as Samsung recognise that the phone was previously rooted.
- On a PC or Mac download Kies and update.
- Nothing has flagged up with any counters, did not experience any problems with KNOX
Hope this helps everyone.
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Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm

castillofr said:
Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm
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Not true, KNOX will still say 0x1 after unrooting, he probably means the system status and binaries are reset to Official again.

castillofr said:
Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm
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Hi,
Well the uninstall of SuperSU went ahead with no problems, a box did flag up saying something about would you like to disable KNOX before continuing and just confirmed it.
Since the Un-Root, i have just opened KNOX again and havent had any problems at all. I did complete a factory reset just for my OCD needs with it and nothing has been triggered and no flags or counters. Still have the KNOX app with the set up wizard client available to get it going if i ever need it again so..
Didnt realise that people where having a problem with KNOX if im honest, when i finish work i shall have a play around with it and update this if i encounter any problems.

gee2012 said:
Not true, KNOX will still say 0x1 after unrooting, he probably means the system status and binaries are reset to Official again.
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This might well be the case, i dont fully understand all of the tech terms regarding the binaries but only have a little knowledge when it comes to checking the counters and any flags or problems.
- Say for example that KNOX was tripped, a) What would happen and when/where would i encounter a problem and b) Is their any detrimental effect on the overall phone or just for KNOX?
Regards.

MaxiBizzle said:
This might well be the case, i dont fully understand all of the tech terms regarding the binaries but only have a little knowledge when it comes to checking the counters and any flags or problems.
- Say for example that KNOX was tripped, a) What would happen and when/where would i encounter a problem and b) Is their any detrimental effect on the overall phone or just for KNOX?
Regards.
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KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1 and you are rooted. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again after you flashed a stock rom.

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gee2012 said:
KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again if you flashed a stock rom.
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Hi,
Well KNOX is working as it did the first day i got the S5 and havent encountered any problems nor seen any flags. IF their were to be a void flag 0x1 where would i see this?
I was just nosing around on the forums and saw that alot of people were Un-Rooting via SuperSU and then using Kies to then boot the stock rom.
Thanks for your help and advice. Sorry this seemed like a dud thread!

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Well KNOX is working as it did the first day i got the S5 and havent encountered any problems nor seen any flags. IF their were to be a void flag 0x1 where would i see this?
I was just nosing around on the forums and saw that alot of people were Un-Rooting via SuperSU and then using Kies to then boot the stock rom.
Thanks for your help and advice. Sorry this seemed like a dud thread!
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KNOX is only tripped intentionaly (not by accident), that is if you root with CF Auto Root or flash a custom recovery or kernel with (Mobile) Odin.

kararye and
gee2012 said:
KNOX is only tripped intentionaly (not by accident), that is if you root with CF Auto Root or flash a custom recovery or kernel with (Mobile) Odin.
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Ok no worries. Completed the Root with Odin v3.09 i believe, did not flash any custom roms or anything was just playing around with xposed installer, Mobile Odin was never used.
Not sure if that makes any difference?

MaxiBizzle said:
Ok no worries. Completed the Root with Odin v3.09 i believe, did not flash any custom roms or anything was just playing around with xposed installer, Mobile Odin was never used.
Not sure if that makes any difference?
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What what software did you root with Odin? If you used CF Root your flag is 0x1.

gee2012 said:
What what software did you root with Odin? If you used CF Root your flag is 0x1.
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Hi,
Oh right i see what you mean now, sorry for the delay. It was CF-Root

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Oh right i see what you mean now, sorry for the delay. It was CF-Root
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As you live in the EU warranty for the device is still valid when rooted/tripped KNOX unless the manufacturer can prove the issue is caused by rooting.

gee2012 said:
As you live in the EU warranty for the device is still valid when rooted/tripped KNOX unless the manufacturer can prove the issue is caused by rooting.
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Hi,
Oh right i didnt know that. Is it just within the EU that the warranty is still valid? Are their any other countries that are the same?
Just a general question then, with regarding the voidance of KNOX or anything, would that only effect me if i wanted to send the phone back for whatever reason? The counters for example wouldnt made a difference for my phone and daily useage anyway so if i just keep the phone and continue to not having any problems i could have as many counters on it as possible?
Just getting my head around the whole void/counters thing.

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Oh right i didnt know that. Is it just within the EU that the warranty is still valid? Are their any other countries that are the same?
Just a general question then, with regarding the voidance of KNOX or anything, would that only effect me if i wanted to send the phone back for whatever reason? The counters for example wouldnt made a difference for my phone and daily useage anyway so if i just keep the phone and continue to not having any problems i could have as many counters on it as possible?
Just getting my head around the whole void/counters thing.
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Afaik only in the EU by EU law wich superceeds OEM terms/conditions.

gee2012 said:
KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1 and you are rooted. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again after you flashed a stock rom.
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I have currently official status but Knox 0x1.
The one & only thing concerned then is warranty. Knox based apps and all others should work as before Knox 0x1.
Hawke84 said: "If the Knox warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use knox softwareas your device has been flagged as insecure. By this i mean that if your workplace / company supports bring your own device to work for corporate emails etc and they use knox to keep security your device will not allow this. You are still able to use future samsung firmware releases with the knox flag 0x1. hope this makes sense. sorry for any confusion this has caused!"

towelroot wont work,

hi guys i just got an s4 a few hours ago the first thing i'm trying to do is root it, what i understand is towel.apk is only way to root without voiding knox. I tried towelroot it says my device is unsupported?
Galaxy S4 i9505 lte UK 4.2.2 XXUDMH6
can anyone help?

iamflamez said:
hi guys i just got an s4 a few hours ago the first thing i'm trying to do is root it, what i understand is towel.apk is only way to root without voiding knox. I tried towelroot it says my device is unsupported?
Galaxy S4 i9505 lte UK 4.2.2 XXUDMH6
can anyone help?
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Yeah.
1. Towelroot is for root android 4.3 or higher.
2. You can use CF-Auto-Root without void the warranty coz you are using android 4.2.2. This is the first firmware of the Galaxy s4 and it hadn't KNOX. You can flash any custom recovery too without KNOX.

Joku1981 said:
Yeah.
1. Towelroot is for root android 4.3 or higher.
2. You can use CF-Auto-Root without void the warranty coz you are using android 4.2.2. This is the first firmware of the Galaxy s4 and it hadn't KNOX. You can flash any custom recovery too without void the warranty.
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Actually I do have Knox, My counter says knox 0x0

iamflamez said:
Actually I do have Knox, My counter says knox 0x0
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I think you are wrong. Go to download mode and add me one screenshot of what appears there. I added one screenshot when I was using android 4.2.2. I promiss u that rooting your device with CF-Auto-root your KNOX will be off anyway.

Joku1981 said:
I think you are wrong. Go to download mode and add me one screenshot of what appears there. I added one screenshot when I was using android 4.2.2. I promiss u that rooting your device with CF-Auto-root your KNOX will be off anyway.
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Sorry but your info Is wrong, you were on an earlier, 4.2.2

iamflamez said:
Sorry but your info Is wrong, you were on an earlier, 4.2.2
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If you don't know what is the difference btw Knox and binary flash counter isn't my problem. One nice guide is in this website. Read and learn a little more.
* EDIT: This root process may increase binary flash counter, not change KNOX status. Read a little more about TRIANGLE AWAY too.

Joku1981 said:
If you don't know what is the difference btw Knox and binary flash counter isn't my problem. One nice guide is in this website. Read and learn a little more.
* EDIT: This root process may increase binary flash counter, not change KNOX status. Read a little more about TRIANGLE AWAY too.
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Cf root will trigger my knox though. I have used cf root and triangle away many times on my s2 and my s3. I know the difference between knox and binary. Believe me your 4.2.2 I don't think was mh6, must have been earlier 4.2.2. This is my download mode.

iamflamez said:
Cf root will trigger my knox though. I have used cf root and triangle away many times on my s2 and my s3. I know the difference between knox and binary. Believe me your 4.2.2 I don't think was mh6, must have been earlier 4.2.2. This is my download mode.
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KNOX started in android 4.3. You can read THIS article for your info :highfive:. You can try IROOT app too.

Joku1981 said:
KNOX started in android 4.3. You can read THIS article for your info :highfive:. You can try IROOT app too.
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Sorry my friend but once again you are wrong! Knox started in 4.2.2
I know you are trying to help but YOU need to read more before giving advice, because if anybody listened to your advice they would void the knox counter.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46189882&postcount=1