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I am really confused as always I used to find the thread for rooting my SGS4 but with the new firmware upgrade (Russia region), I can not find how to root it, and I am not upgrading it as it is important for me. Specification I am attaching (from similar updraded phone already) .
it should be PDA: I9500XXUFNF4CSC: I9500SERFNE3 MODEM: I9500XXUFNA6 (I can only find with PDA I9500XXUFNB4 in this site).
I would certainly appreciate your guidance in this matter, as only after being sure I had the needed .tar and odin, as I always root it with ODIN being the simplest and safest way, I always upgrade via KIES.
I was directed to post here.
Thank You in advance
Just use the normal rooting.
cf auto root or towelroot.
Firmware doesn't matter.
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
towelroot
fcornejo said:
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
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I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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Use towelroot if you don't want to lose your warranty (because you will void konx )
Trigger Knos
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
Warranty
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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I am not so sure about towelroot never used it that is why I am avaoiding, triggering Knox I do not know what it means? Anyway when you root your phone you lose warranty so what difference does it make?
avadis99 said:
Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
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knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
Thank you for the explanatiom as such it means it does not harm the phone or prevent future upgrades? If so I prefer to root as I had done before. I have no intention of downgrading but surely would like to continue upgrading. I always use my rooted phone with Knox frozen
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clarification
fcornejo said:
knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
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Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
avadis99 said:
Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
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You can check by entering to download mode...
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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avadis99 said:
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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It will only affect your ability to downgrade......you won't be able to with official firmware. Upgrading is still possible and the Knox flag being triggered will not affect you upgrading but will never re-set the trigger.
Thank you so much
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Hello,
I updated my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 with KIES to XXUDMJ7 and right after that I rooted it before activating KNOX on my phone.
After that I wanted to start using KNOX so I clicked the app icon in order to activate it and filled the password to start, but then I got an alert meesage saying that my phone has been changed so KNOX can not be used.
I do want to use KNOX because it seems a nice to have feature to protect my sensetive data.
Can anyone PLEASE help me what can I do in order to enjoy a rooted device and KNOX together ?
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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cant be undone ?
Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?
frliran said:
Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?
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No. Sorry
Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Not what was asked... Knox is a program that separates Android into 2 sections, the insecure one that we use rooted and a secure version that stops all apps from doing ANYTHIG that could give out our data. Photo's taken while using the Knox security feature wil only be available in the Knox section.
No, you can't use Knox after rooting as you have now opened up the system to questionable apps unapproved by Samsung...
There is no way I have seen to spoof the system to allow use of Knox security app and have a rooted phone....
Just to know
geek78 said:
No. Sorry
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Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?
frliran said:
Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?
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1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.
geek78 said:
1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.
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My previous firmware was XXUDMJ4 and I had problems with the S-pen, so I updated it to XXUDMJ7.
Can you please tell me what is this update ?
The only reason I rooted my phone is to use "Tasker" and "Greenify" apps.
don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...
Thank you all
geek78 said:
don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...
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Thank you all for your help (-:
I'm a bit sad that I can't use KNOX but I don't know what is better to have KNOX or Root...
hi, I have this build
I9505XXUEMK9_I9505OXXEMK3_I9505XXUEMK9_HOME.tar
I don't know how to root this version without trip knox to 0x1
EclipseX said:
hi, I have this build
I9505XXUEMK9_I9505OXXEMK3_I9505XXUEMK9_HOME.tar
I don't know how to root this version without trip knox to 0x1
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The unique method that dont trip knox is using the program KINGOROOT not supported by XDA. Go to their website or write them a mail :highfive:
EclipseX said:
hi, I have this build
I9505XXUEMK9_I9505OXXEMK3_I9505XXUEMK9_HOME.tar
I don't know how to root this version without trip knox to 0x1
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This works for me (I9505XXUEMKF_I9505OXXEMK3_XEH):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiZ7D2zjJdA
Saferoot tool is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
You can find more useful videos on MrW0lf"s youtube channel (eg.: backup EFS folder, modify CSC code...).
my probleme is mine is mk9 :s
olahj said:
This works for me (I9505XXUEMKF_I9505OXXEMK3_XEH):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiZ7D2zjJdA
Saferoot tool is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
You can find more useful videos on MrW0lf"s youtube channel (eg.: backup EFS folder, modify CSC code...).
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EclipseX said:
my probleme is mine is mk9 :s
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I think will work too. Users told works in MK2. Try it and tell us how it works. Anyway this no void ur warranty
But I read that trigger knox if Is superior than mk8
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In Portugal this completely void , is in Eula terms
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xda developers know how to root the new bootloader without triggering the knox but they mean to do it in this way , they and samsung in same side
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Err,
What rooting method u using now...
About Knox tripping at Malaysia warranty still at "???"
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Hello,
Is it possible to flash a stock firmware with Odin (with stock kernel, unrooted) if the knox flag is 0x1 and still receive OTA-updates? Or is it the knox flag that determines if the phone should receive OTA-updates? The question is because if I want to sell the phone in the future the buyer might want stock with OTA-updates...
ozzalbatrozz said:
Hello,
Is it possible to flash a stock firmware with Odin (with stock kernel, unrooted) if the knox flag is 0x1 and still receive OTA-updates? Or is it the knox flag that determines if the phone should receive OTA-updates? The question is because if I want to sell the phone in the future the buyer might want stock with OTA-updates...
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yes in short you can
For clearification and my own understanding: if the Knox flag is tripped you can still flash and use stock firmware (with the side effect that it disables Knox functionality and removes Samsung warranty coverage) but it can still receive pushed ota updates and those updates will work properly (assuming with the exception of Knox functionality). Is this the entirety of the effects of tripping the Knox efuse?
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cpgeek said:
For clearification and my own understanding: if the Knox flag is tripped you can still flash and use stock firmware (with the side effect that it disables Knox functionality and removes Samsung warranty coverage) but it can still receive pushed ota updates and those updates will work properly (assuming with the exception of Knox functionality). Is this the entirety of the effects of tripping the Knox efuse?
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yes just voids Samsung warranty thats about it:silly:
jaythenut said:
yes just voids Samsung warranty thats about it:silly:
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Then may I ask why everyone is making a huge deal about it? Most (all?) manufactures state that you void your warranty when you flash non stock firmware. I'd bet if I submitted my original galaxy note to Samsung for warranty repair that they'd see the bootloader flag set as custom rom and not touch it... So what is it really that you lose by blowing Knox that you didn't lose when you flash custom firmware on any other device that is making people super angry?
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cpgeek said:
Then may I ask why everyone is making a huge deal about it? Most (all?) manufactures state that you void your warranty when you flash non stock firmware. I'd bet if I submitted my original galaxy note to Samsung for warranty repair that they'd see the bootloader flag set as custom rom and not touch it... So what is it really that you lose by blowing Knox that you didn't lose when you flash custom firmware on any other device that is making people super angry?
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The argument is, We own the device therefore swapping out software shouldn't affect any hardware issues. Samsung don't have the best quality control and things are faulty sometimes.. why should you be penalized if your volume button breaks or screen breaks due to fault, and they won't fix it because you rooted to add a nice clean theme to your device?
Then there is the underlying security issue surrounding KNOX.. is it a spy tool? is it not? who knows?
- Best answer I could give you there lol -
Hi guys,
first of all im sorry about my english... It's not very well :angel:
You say that its possible to do OTA-Updates although the KNOX flag is 0x1... But a few days ago i had a message like "This device is not original/Is touched - no updates available"...
Was it a temporary problem or what is it?
Greetings
shinchillahh said:
Hi guys,
first of all im sorry about my english... It's not very well :angel:
You say that its possible to do OTA-Updates although the KNOX flag is 0x1... But a few days ago i had a message like "This device is not original/Is touched - no updates available"...
Was it a temporary problem or what is it?
Greetings
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it means your system partition has been modified.
did you root the phone?
vndnguyen said:
it means your system partition has been modified.
did you root the phone?
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Aaaah okay, yes i did a root! SO when i flash a STOCK ROM without a root it should be fine? And when Android 4.4 is released i am just able to update it OTA???
shinchillahh said:
Aaaah okay, yes i did a root! SO when i flash a STOCK ROM without a root it should be fine? And when Android 4.4 is released i am just able to update it OTA???
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you can anyway update OTA while keeping root.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
Thank u sooo much!
hi guys i just got an s4 a few hours ago the first thing i'm trying to do is root it, what i understand is towel.apk is only way to root without voiding knox. I tried towelroot it says my device is unsupported?
Galaxy S4 i9505 lte UK 4.2.2 XXUDMH6
can anyone help?
iamflamez said:
hi guys i just got an s4 a few hours ago the first thing i'm trying to do is root it, what i understand is towel.apk is only way to root without voiding knox. I tried towelroot it says my device is unsupported?
Galaxy S4 i9505 lte UK 4.2.2 XXUDMH6
can anyone help?
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Yeah.
1. Towelroot is for root android 4.3 or higher.
2. You can use CF-Auto-Root without void the warranty coz you are using android 4.2.2. This is the first firmware of the Galaxy s4 and it hadn't KNOX. You can flash any custom recovery too without KNOX.
Joku1981 said:
Yeah.
1. Towelroot is for root android 4.3 or higher.
2. You can use CF-Auto-Root without void the warranty coz you are using android 4.2.2. This is the first firmware of the Galaxy s4 and it hadn't KNOX. You can flash any custom recovery too without void the warranty.
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Actually I do have Knox, My counter says knox 0x0
iamflamez said:
Actually I do have Knox, My counter says knox 0x0
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I think you are wrong. Go to download mode and add me one screenshot of what appears there. I added one screenshot when I was using android 4.2.2. I promiss u that rooting your device with CF-Auto-root your KNOX will be off anyway.
Joku1981 said:
I think you are wrong. Go to download mode and add me one screenshot of what appears there. I added one screenshot when I was using android 4.2.2. I promiss u that rooting your device with CF-Auto-root your KNOX will be off anyway.
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Sorry but your info Is wrong, you were on an earlier, 4.2.2
iamflamez said:
Sorry but your info Is wrong, you were on an earlier, 4.2.2
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If you don't know what is the difference btw Knox and binary flash counter isn't my problem. One nice guide is in this website. Read and learn a little more.
* EDIT: This root process may increase binary flash counter, not change KNOX status. Read a little more about TRIANGLE AWAY too.
Joku1981 said:
If you don't know what is the difference btw Knox and binary flash counter isn't my problem. One nice guide is in this website. Read and learn a little more.
* EDIT: This root process may increase binary flash counter, not change KNOX status. Read a little more about TRIANGLE AWAY too.
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Cf root will trigger my knox though. I have used cf root and triangle away many times on my s2 and my s3. I know the difference between knox and binary. Believe me your 4.2.2 I don't think was mh6, must have been earlier 4.2.2. This is my download mode.
iamflamez said:
Cf root will trigger my knox though. I have used cf root and triangle away many times on my s2 and my s3. I know the difference between knox and binary. Believe me your 4.2.2 I don't think was mh6, must have been earlier 4.2.2. This is my download mode.
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KNOX started in android 4.3. You can read THIS article for your info :highfive:. You can try IROOT app too.
Joku1981 said:
KNOX started in android 4.3. You can read THIS article for your info :highfive:. You can try IROOT app too.
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Sorry my friend but once again you are wrong! Knox started in 4.2.2
I know you are trying to help but YOU need to read more before giving advice, because if anybody listened to your advice they would void the knox counter.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46189882&postcount=1
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.
xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???
mandzo said:
Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.
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Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please
Kashmir Hackers said:
Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please
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Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.
mandzo said:
Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.
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My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.
Kashmir Hackers said:
My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.
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I rooted mine the second day I got it (I got it somewhere around January). So far havent had any problems with it and the knox (if there is one) still says 0x0. That said rooting and flashing custom recovery is still something that may potentialy harm your device so its up to you to decide. Dont take my words as 100% proof everything will be ok. Maybe indeed w8 for a few more ppl to say if they had any problems with knox so far.
Kashmir Hackers said:
Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???
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I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.
mandzo said:
Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.
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Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished
Kashmir Hackers said:
Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished
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Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.
mandzo said:
Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.
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You know what after rooting my mobile the first thing I did is to remove the Knox crap from my mobile, they scared me enough but not anymore:good:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Happy to hear that , thanks buddy for letting others know.
SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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Yep! Your warranty will not be void as long as your device is running a stock rom when you turn it in. You can check your binary counter by going to download mode.
funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.
Kashmir Hackers said:
If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.
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On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%
maxxim62 said:
On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%
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I'm not talking about Knox Counter but I'm talking about Binary Counter which every Samsung phone already have and keeps track of how many times a custom firmware had been flashed. And as far as Knox Security is concerned there is still no way to reset Knox counter but fortunately S3 NEO don't have it.