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[Q] Root and KNOX

Hello,
I updated my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 with KIES to XXUDMJ7 and right after that I rooted it before activating KNOX on my phone.
After that I wanted to start using KNOX so I clicked the app icon in order to activate it and filled the password to start, but then I got an alert meesage saying that my phone has been changed so KNOX can not be used.
I do want to use KNOX because it seems a nice to have feature to protect my sensetive data.
Can anyone PLEASE help me what can I do in order to enjoy a rooted device and KNOX together ?

Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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cant be undone ?
Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?

frliran said:
Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?
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No. Sorry

Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Not what was asked... Knox is a program that separates Android into 2 sections, the insecure one that we use rooted and a secure version that stops all apps from doing ANYTHIG that could give out our data. Photo's taken while using the Knox security feature wil only be available in the Knox section.
No, you can't use Knox after rooting as you have now opened up the system to questionable apps unapproved by Samsung...
There is no way I have seen to spoof the system to allow use of Knox security app and have a rooted phone....

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geek78 said:
No. Sorry
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Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?

frliran said:
Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?
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1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.

geek78 said:
1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.
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My previous firmware was XXUDMJ4 and I had problems with the S-pen, so I updated it to XXUDMJ7.
Can you please tell me what is this update ?
The only reason I rooted my phone is to use "Tasker" and "Greenify" apps.

don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...

Thank you all
geek78 said:
don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...
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Thank you all for your help (-:
I'm a bit sad that I can't use KNOX but I don't know what is better to have KNOX or Root...

[ASK] Root s4 i9500

i'm sorry, i want to ask something.
how to root galaxy s4 without tripped knox?
i'm use s4 i9500 I9500DXUEMJ5
thanks for reply

Root
You can't root your phone I9500DXUEMJ5 without tripped knox.
In fact, there is only one solution : use Kingo root app.
But... XDA does not approve this app because it seems send data to China when you try to root your phone with this tool.
Sorry for my english, I hope you understand what I wanted to say.

darki00 said:
You can't root your phone I9500DXUEMJ5 without tripped knox.
In fact, there is only one solution : use Kingo root app.
But... XDA does not approve this app because it seems send data to China when you try to root your phone with this tool.
Sorry for my english, I hope you understand what I wanted to say.
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thanks for reply
i have watch and read about king root,
so, on this time there are no solutions for root i9500 without tripped knox?
if i want to root(no problem with knox flag), what methods i can use for sure? flash kernel or cf auto root?
Thanks

hieruma said:
thanks for reply
i have watch and read about king root,
so, on this time there are no solutions for root i9500 without tripped knox?
if i want to root(no problem with knox flag), what methods i can use for sure? flash kernel or cf auto root?
Thanks
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cf auto root z best & safe & easy
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hieruma said:
thanks for reply
i have watch and read about king root,
so, on this time there are no solutions for root i9500 without tripped knox?
if i want to root(no problem with knox flag), what methods i can use for sure? flash kernel or cf auto root?
Thanks
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U can take a look HERE :highfive:

RISHI RAJ said:
cf auto root z best & safe & easy
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Joku1981 said:
U can take a look HERE :highfive:
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Thanks

Root S4
For people who want to root, no need to say more (if no problem with knox flag) because like it was said before : CF-Auto-Root is the best tool.

Cannot run KNOX

Hi, I downgraded my S4 from NA4 to MK8, and I rooted it. After that, I installed KNOX, and now I can't use it because it simply doesn't run... I'm able to type password, but then "KNOX stopped working"... How can I run this, or how can I uninstall KNOX? Maybe I should first install KNOX and then root phone? Or don't accept KNOX blocking while rooting?
E: Also, I have installed floating window mod, so I modified some system files, maybe this is why KNOX don't work?

Your knox must of tripped to 0x1. I have noticed that you cannot use any knox software anymore once it's tripped.
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adry1988 said:
Your knox must of tripped to 0x1. I have noticed that you cannot use any knox software anymore once it's tripped.
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Wow, you scared me, but everything is OK. Knox flag is 0x0.
E: Ok, it looks fine for now. I just unrooted, and rooted again.
E2: No... It looks like KNOX don't work when xposed is installed. Why?

bartas225 said:
Wow, you scared me, but everything is OK. Knox flag is 0x0.
E: Ok, it looks fine for now. I just unrooted, and rooted again.
E2: No... It looks like KNOX don't work when xposed is installed. Why?
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After rooting knox cant be run nd on rooting i think is should be ox1
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aayushkhajuria2842 said:
After rooting knox cant be run nd on rooting i think is should be ox1
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I rooted it by Saferoot, it's not touching Knox flag. Anyway, last time I was on MK8, I had rooted device, and using Knox without troubles.

Why do you want to use Knox? I don't even know what it does

KingOfDope said:
Why do you want to use Knox? I don't even know what it does
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Why use it
Because it is not liked by root users Knox has some good things depends on what angle he looked

KingOfDope said:
Why do you want to use Knox? I don't even know what it does
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To store some files that shouldn't be opened by anyone else than me

bartas225 said:
To store some files that shouldn't be opened by anyone else than me
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oowhh, thank you

[Q] Do I lose warranty if I root s5?? (G900F)

Do i lose warranty if I root Samsung galaxy s5 (G900F)? And what is best root method for that

Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
If it works for you like it did for me then you will still have warranty as it does not trigger KNOX (which may void your warranty)

abdulhamid1978 said:
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
If it works for you like it did for me then you will still have warranty as it does not trigger KNOX (which may void your warranty)
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Thanks. But are You sure Towelroot will not trigger KNOX??
I just get s5 and i really dont wanna lose warranty! Im new with samsung device root policy.

All I can say is that it worked for me. If you read through the thread as far as I know no one has said it triggered KNOX on their device.

Pegaz-7 said:
Thanks. But are You sure Towelroot will not trigger KNOX??
I just get s5 and i really dont wanna lose warranty! Im new with samsung device root policy.
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abdulhamid1978 said:
All I can say is that it worked for me. If you read through the thread as far as I know no one has said it triggered KNOX on their device.
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For me working ok. KNOX still 0x0
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*elmo* said:
For me working ok. KNOX still 0x0
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I will try and report. I need to download towelroot app open and root phone, that is all?

How many of these "warranty threads" does this forum need? You could have searched for the answer in 2 seconds instead of opening a totally pointless water of space thread!

Rooting SGS4

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I am really confused as always I used to find the thread for rooting my SGS4 but with the new firmware upgrade (Russia region), I can not find how to root it, and I am not upgrading it as it is important for me. Specification I am attaching (from similar updraded phone already) .
it should be PDA: I9500XXUFNF4CSC: I9500SERFNE3 MODEM: I9500XXUFNA6 (I can only find with PDA I9500XXUFNB4 in this site).
I would certainly appreciate your guidance in this matter, as only after being sure I had the needed .tar and odin, as I always root it with ODIN being the simplest and safest way, I always upgrade via KIES.
I was directed to post here.
Thank You in advance

Just use the normal rooting.
cf auto root or towelroot.
Firmware doesn't matter.

I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/

towelroot
fcornejo said:
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
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I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you

avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app

avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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Use towelroot if you don't want to lose your warranty (because you will void konx )

Trigger Knos
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply

Warranty
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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I am not so sure about towelroot never used it that is why I am avaoiding, triggering Knox I do not know what it means? Anyway when you root your phone you lose warranty so what difference does it make?

avadis99 said:
Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
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knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...

Thank you for the explanatiom as such it means it does not harm the phone or prevent future upgrades? If so I prefer to root as I had done before. I have no intention of downgrading but surely would like to continue upgrading. I always use my rooted phone with Knox frozen
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fcornejo said:
knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
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Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN

avadis99 said:
Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
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You can check by entering to download mode...

One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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avadis99 said:
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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It will only affect your ability to downgrade......you won't be able to with official firmware. Upgrading is still possible and the Knox flag being triggered will not affect you upgrading but will never re-set the trigger.

Thank you so much
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