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Hello,
I updated my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 with KIES to XXUDMJ7 and right after that I rooted it before activating KNOX on my phone.
After that I wanted to start using KNOX so I clicked the app icon in order to activate it and filled the password to start, but then I got an alert meesage saying that my phone has been changed so KNOX can not be used.
I do want to use KNOX because it seems a nice to have feature to protect my sensetive data.
Can anyone PLEASE help me what can I do in order to enjoy a rooted device and KNOX together ?
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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cant be undone ?
Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?
frliran said:
Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?
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No. Sorry
Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Not what was asked... Knox is a program that separates Android into 2 sections, the insecure one that we use rooted and a secure version that stops all apps from doing ANYTHIG that could give out our data. Photo's taken while using the Knox security feature wil only be available in the Knox section.
No, you can't use Knox after rooting as you have now opened up the system to questionable apps unapproved by Samsung...
There is no way I have seen to spoof the system to allow use of Knox security app and have a rooted phone....
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geek78 said:
No. Sorry
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Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?
frliran said:
Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?
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1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.
geek78 said:
1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.
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My previous firmware was XXUDMJ4 and I had problems with the S-pen, so I updated it to XXUDMJ7.
Can you please tell me what is this update ?
The only reason I rooted my phone is to use "Tasker" and "Greenify" apps.
don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...
Thank you all
geek78 said:
don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...
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Thank you all for your help (-:
I'm a bit sad that I can't use KNOX but I don't know what is better to have KNOX or Root...
Hi, I downgraded my S4 from NA4 to MK8, and I rooted it. After that, I installed KNOX, and now I can't use it because it simply doesn't run... I'm able to type password, but then "KNOX stopped working"... How can I run this, or how can I uninstall KNOX? Maybe I should first install KNOX and then root phone? Or don't accept KNOX blocking while rooting?
E: Also, I have installed floating window mod, so I modified some system files, maybe this is why KNOX don't work?
Your knox must of tripped to 0x1. I have noticed that you cannot use any knox software anymore once it's tripped.
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adry1988 said:
Your knox must of tripped to 0x1. I have noticed that you cannot use any knox software anymore once it's tripped.
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Wow, you scared me, but everything is OK. Knox flag is 0x0.
E: Ok, it looks fine for now. I just unrooted, and rooted again.
E2: No... It looks like KNOX don't work when xposed is installed. Why?
bartas225 said:
Wow, you scared me, but everything is OK. Knox flag is 0x0.
E: Ok, it looks fine for now. I just unrooted, and rooted again.
E2: No... It looks like KNOX don't work when xposed is installed. Why?
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After rooting knox cant be run nd on rooting i think is should be ox1
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aayushkhajuria2842 said:
After rooting knox cant be run nd on rooting i think is should be ox1
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I rooted it by Saferoot, it's not touching Knox flag. Anyway, last time I was on MK8, I had rooted device, and using Knox without troubles.
Why do you want to use Knox? I don't even know what it does
KingOfDope said:
Why do you want to use Knox? I don't even know what it does
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Why use it
Because it is not liked by root users Knox has some good things depends on what angle he looked
KingOfDope said:
Why do you want to use Knox? I don't even know what it does
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To store some files that shouldn't be opened by anyone else than me
bartas225 said:
To store some files that shouldn't be opened by anyone else than me
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oowhh, thank you
Hi
My s5 currently is rooted and KNOX is 0x0. I want to flash something more exciting to it but what can I do about KNOX? Can I Remove It Before it is tripped or does it happen no matter what?
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
Thanks
you cannot remove KNOX.
If you flash anything - KNOX goes to 0x1 making you void your warranty
dieselboy said:
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
Thanks
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Visit this thread https://towelroot.com/ on your phone and click the lambda and follow instructions. KNOX will stay on 0x0.
Thanks !
It seems within the last 2 weeks after almost everyone saying "rooting will trip Knox and don't count on anything different any time soon" that rooting now does not trip Knox
Very pleased, I am.
And thanks for the link. Seems not everyone knows about this yet.
KNOX
Understood. But is the warranty that important?
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
forsberg78 said:
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
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Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
DSA said:
Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
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Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
Wildey1771 said:
Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
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They are referring to some regula by EU Laws, which indirectly tells that manufacture cannot deny warranty because of rooting.
At same time, organization in my country responsible about these kind of claims says, they agree on Samsungs warranty paper, which says we are not allowed to root. So If I would want justice in my country, it can be done only by court!
So dont count on EU law helping... may work and may not.
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Warranty...there are laws here that supercede it, but the above post is basically true (although two people I know who had rooted and used the warranty didn't have to go to court)
txr33 said:
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
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Understood.
However in my case all I want to do right now is disable the silly camera shutter sound.
Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
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Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
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Not necessarily.. Have you heard of "Themer"? I was running themer on my completely stock Note3. You have a wide selection of touchwiz replacements. Take a looksie.
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Inm8 said:
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
born4trance said:
Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
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True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Inm8 said:
True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Hopefully not many. You'd expect Samsungs warranty return % to be very low. I wonder if there are published figures, but I would hope <0.1% of customers. However, after a few months of using your device you would know if you need to warranty the phone or not. Then I guess you wouldn't mind going 0x1.
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I am really confused as always I used to find the thread for rooting my SGS4 but with the new firmware upgrade (Russia region), I can not find how to root it, and I am not upgrading it as it is important for me. Specification I am attaching (from similar updraded phone already) .
it should be PDA: I9500XXUFNF4CSC: I9500SERFNE3 MODEM: I9500XXUFNA6 (I can only find with PDA I9500XXUFNB4 in this site).
I would certainly appreciate your guidance in this matter, as only after being sure I had the needed .tar and odin, as I always root it with ODIN being the simplest and safest way, I always upgrade via KIES.
I was directed to post here.
Thank You in advance
Just use the normal rooting.
cf auto root or towelroot.
Firmware doesn't matter.
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
towelroot
fcornejo said:
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
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I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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Use towelroot if you don't want to lose your warranty (because you will void konx )
Trigger Knos
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
Warranty
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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I am not so sure about towelroot never used it that is why I am avaoiding, triggering Knox I do not know what it means? Anyway when you root your phone you lose warranty so what difference does it make?
avadis99 said:
Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
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knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
Thank you for the explanatiom as such it means it does not harm the phone or prevent future upgrades? If so I prefer to root as I had done before. I have no intention of downgrading but surely would like to continue upgrading. I always use my rooted phone with Knox frozen
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fcornejo said:
knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
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Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
avadis99 said:
Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
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You can check by entering to download mode...
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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avadis99 said:
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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It will only affect your ability to downgrade......you won't be able to with official firmware. Upgrading is still possible and the Knox flag being triggered will not affect you upgrading but will never re-set the trigger.
Thank you so much
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Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.
xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???
mandzo said:
Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.
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Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please
Kashmir Hackers said:
Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please
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Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.
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Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.
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My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.
Kashmir Hackers said:
My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.
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I rooted mine the second day I got it (I got it somewhere around January). So far havent had any problems with it and the knox (if there is one) still says 0x0. That said rooting and flashing custom recovery is still something that may potentialy harm your device so its up to you to decide. Dont take my words as 100% proof everything will be ok. Maybe indeed w8 for a few more ppl to say if they had any problems with knox so far.
Kashmir Hackers said:
Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???
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I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.
mandzo said:
Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.
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Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished
Kashmir Hackers said:
Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished
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Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.
mandzo said:
Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.
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You know what after rooting my mobile the first thing I did is to remove the Knox crap from my mobile, they scared me enough but not anymore:good:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Happy to hear that , thanks buddy for letting others know.
SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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Yep! Your warranty will not be void as long as your device is running a stock rom when you turn it in. You can check your binary counter by going to download mode.
funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.
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If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.
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On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%
maxxim62 said:
On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%
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I'm not talking about Knox Counter but I'm talking about Binary Counter which every Samsung phone already have and keeps track of how many times a custom firmware had been flashed. And as far as Knox Security is concerned there is still no way to reset Knox counter but fortunately S3 NEO don't have it.