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Question about knox/OTA

Hello,
Is it possible to flash a stock firmware with Odin (with stock kernel, unrooted) if the knox flag is 0x1 and still receive OTA-updates? Or is it the knox flag that determines if the phone should receive OTA-updates? The question is because if I want to sell the phone in the future the buyer might want stock with OTA-updates...

ozzalbatrozz said:
Hello,
Is it possible to flash a stock firmware with Odin (with stock kernel, unrooted) if the knox flag is 0x1 and still receive OTA-updates? Or is it the knox flag that determines if the phone should receive OTA-updates? The question is because if I want to sell the phone in the future the buyer might want stock with OTA-updates...
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yes in short you can

For clearification and my own understanding: if the Knox flag is tripped you can still flash and use stock firmware (with the side effect that it disables Knox functionality and removes Samsung warranty coverage) but it can still receive pushed ota updates and those updates will work properly (assuming with the exception of Knox functionality). Is this the entirety of the effects of tripping the Knox efuse?
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cpgeek said:
For clearification and my own understanding: if the Knox flag is tripped you can still flash and use stock firmware (with the side effect that it disables Knox functionality and removes Samsung warranty coverage) but it can still receive pushed ota updates and those updates will work properly (assuming with the exception of Knox functionality). Is this the entirety of the effects of tripping the Knox efuse?
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yes just voids Samsung warranty thats about it:silly:

jaythenut said:
yes just voids Samsung warranty thats about it:silly:
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Then may I ask why everyone is making a huge deal about it? Most (all?) manufactures state that you void your warranty when you flash non stock firmware. I'd bet if I submitted my original galaxy note to Samsung for warranty repair that they'd see the bootloader flag set as custom rom and not touch it... So what is it really that you lose by blowing Knox that you didn't lose when you flash custom firmware on any other device that is making people super angry?
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cpgeek said:
Then may I ask why everyone is making a huge deal about it? Most (all?) manufactures state that you void your warranty when you flash non stock firmware. I'd bet if I submitted my original galaxy note to Samsung for warranty repair that they'd see the bootloader flag set as custom rom and not touch it... So what is it really that you lose by blowing Knox that you didn't lose when you flash custom firmware on any other device that is making people super angry?
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The argument is, We own the device therefore swapping out software shouldn't affect any hardware issues. Samsung don't have the best quality control and things are faulty sometimes.. why should you be penalized if your volume button breaks or screen breaks due to fault, and they won't fix it because you rooted to add a nice clean theme to your device?
Then there is the underlying security issue surrounding KNOX.. is it a spy tool? is it not? who knows?
- Best answer I could give you there lol -

Hi guys,
first of all im sorry about my english... It's not very well :angel:
You say that its possible to do OTA-Updates although the KNOX flag is 0x1... But a few days ago i had a message like "This device is not original/Is touched - no updates available"...
Was it a temporary problem or what is it?
Greetings

shinchillahh said:
Hi guys,
first of all im sorry about my english... It's not very well :angel:
You say that its possible to do OTA-Updates although the KNOX flag is 0x1... But a few days ago i had a message like "This device is not original/Is touched - no updates available"...
Was it a temporary problem or what is it?
Greetings
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it means your system partition has been modified.
did you root the phone?

vndnguyen said:
it means your system partition has been modified.
did you root the phone?
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Aaaah okay, yes i did a root! SO when i flash a STOCK ROM without a root it should be fine? And when Android 4.4 is released i am just able to update it OTA???

shinchillahh said:
Aaaah okay, yes i did a root! SO when i flash a STOCK ROM without a root it should be fine? And when Android 4.4 is released i am just able to update it OTA???
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you can anyway update OTA while keeping root.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103

Thank u sooo much!

Un-Root S5 GM-900F with Odin

Hi,
Its been a few years since ive Rooted or been ontop of the forums ect.
Just wanted to let other people know my experience with Un-Rooting my S5 GM-900F
- Rooted with Odin + tar file
- Un-Rooted with Super SU
- Typically their is now an update available but cannot update as Samsung recognise that the phone was previously rooted.
- On a PC or Mac download Kies and update.
- Nothing has flagged up with any counters, did not experience any problems with KNOX
Hope this helps everyone.

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Its been a few years since ive Rooted or been ontop of the forums ect.
Just wanted to let other people know my experience with Un-Rooting my S5 GM-900F
- Rooted with Odin + tar file
- Un-Rooted with Super SU
- Typically their is now an update available but cannot update as Samsung recognise that the phone was previously rooted.
- On a PC or Mac download Kies and update.
- Nothing has flagged up with any counters, did not experience any problems with KNOX
Hope this helps everyone.
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Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm

castillofr said:
Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm
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Not true, KNOX will still say 0x1 after unrooting, he probably means the system status and binaries are reset to Official again.

castillofr said:
Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm
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Hi,
Well the uninstall of SuperSU went ahead with no problems, a box did flag up saying something about would you like to disable KNOX before continuing and just confirmed it.
Since the Un-Root, i have just opened KNOX again and havent had any problems at all. I did complete a factory reset just for my OCD needs with it and nothing has been triggered and no flags or counters. Still have the KNOX app with the set up wizard client available to get it going if i ever need it again so..
Didnt realise that people where having a problem with KNOX if im honest, when i finish work i shall have a play around with it and update this if i encounter any problems.

gee2012 said:
Not true, KNOX will still say 0x1 after unrooting, he probably means the system status and binaries are reset to Official again.
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This might well be the case, i dont fully understand all of the tech terms regarding the binaries but only have a little knowledge when it comes to checking the counters and any flags or problems.
- Say for example that KNOX was tripped, a) What would happen and when/where would i encounter a problem and b) Is their any detrimental effect on the overall phone or just for KNOX?
Regards.

MaxiBizzle said:
This might well be the case, i dont fully understand all of the tech terms regarding the binaries but only have a little knowledge when it comes to checking the counters and any flags or problems.
- Say for example that KNOX was tripped, a) What would happen and when/where would i encounter a problem and b) Is their any detrimental effect on the overall phone or just for KNOX?
Regards.
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KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1 and you are rooted. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again after you flashed a stock rom.

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gee2012 said:
KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again if you flashed a stock rom.
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Hi,
Well KNOX is working as it did the first day i got the S5 and havent encountered any problems nor seen any flags. IF their were to be a void flag 0x1 where would i see this?
I was just nosing around on the forums and saw that alot of people were Un-Rooting via SuperSU and then using Kies to then boot the stock rom.
Thanks for your help and advice. Sorry this seemed like a dud thread!

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Well KNOX is working as it did the first day i got the S5 and havent encountered any problems nor seen any flags. IF their were to be a void flag 0x1 where would i see this?
I was just nosing around on the forums and saw that alot of people were Un-Rooting via SuperSU and then using Kies to then boot the stock rom.
Thanks for your help and advice. Sorry this seemed like a dud thread!
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KNOX is only tripped intentionaly (not by accident), that is if you root with CF Auto Root or flash a custom recovery or kernel with (Mobile) Odin.

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gee2012 said:
KNOX is only tripped intentionaly (not by accident), that is if you root with CF Auto Root or flash a custom recovery or kernel with (Mobile) Odin.
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Ok no worries. Completed the Root with Odin v3.09 i believe, did not flash any custom roms or anything was just playing around with xposed installer, Mobile Odin was never used.
Not sure if that makes any difference?

MaxiBizzle said:
Ok no worries. Completed the Root with Odin v3.09 i believe, did not flash any custom roms or anything was just playing around with xposed installer, Mobile Odin was never used.
Not sure if that makes any difference?
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What what software did you root with Odin? If you used CF Root your flag is 0x1.

gee2012 said:
What what software did you root with Odin? If you used CF Root your flag is 0x1.
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Hi,
Oh right i see what you mean now, sorry for the delay. It was CF-Root

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Oh right i see what you mean now, sorry for the delay. It was CF-Root
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As you live in the EU warranty for the device is still valid when rooted/tripped KNOX unless the manufacturer can prove the issue is caused by rooting.

gee2012 said:
As you live in the EU warranty for the device is still valid when rooted/tripped KNOX unless the manufacturer can prove the issue is caused by rooting.
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Hi,
Oh right i didnt know that. Is it just within the EU that the warranty is still valid? Are their any other countries that are the same?
Just a general question then, with regarding the voidance of KNOX or anything, would that only effect me if i wanted to send the phone back for whatever reason? The counters for example wouldnt made a difference for my phone and daily useage anyway so if i just keep the phone and continue to not having any problems i could have as many counters on it as possible?
Just getting my head around the whole void/counters thing.

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Oh right i didnt know that. Is it just within the EU that the warranty is still valid? Are their any other countries that are the same?
Just a general question then, with regarding the voidance of KNOX or anything, would that only effect me if i wanted to send the phone back for whatever reason? The counters for example wouldnt made a difference for my phone and daily useage anyway so if i just keep the phone and continue to not having any problems i could have as many counters on it as possible?
Just getting my head around the whole void/counters thing.
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Afaik only in the EU by EU law wich superceeds OEM terms/conditions.

gee2012 said:
KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1 and you are rooted. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again after you flashed a stock rom.
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I have currently official status but Knox 0x1.
The one & only thing concerned then is warranty. Knox based apps and all others should work as before Knox 0x1.
Hawke84 said: "If the Knox warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use knox softwareas your device has been flagged as insecure. By this i mean that if your workplace / company supports bring your own device to work for corporate emails etc and they use knox to keep security your device will not allow this. You are still able to use future samsung firmware releases with the knox flag 0x1. hope this makes sense. sorry for any confusion this has caused!"

[Q] Did Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo(GT-I9300I) has Knox Security???

Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.

Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Kashmir Hackers said:
Please can anyone tell me did S3 Neo also has Knox Security, I don't see Knox written anywhere in Odin mode.
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Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.

xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
Yes S3 Neo has Knox. You can use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck app to check if you have Knox.
Info :
0x0 Warranty valid/You have knox
0x1 Warranty void/You don't have knox
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Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???

mandzo said:
Software tools say it has. But after flashing different roms and recoveries gazzilion times mine still says 0x0. As you can see from the screenshot even atm I am using cm12.1 with TWRP recovery and it hasnt done anything to the counter. So to be honest I think no matter what you do you can just flash back stock from odin and keep waranty.
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Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please

Kashmir Hackers said:
Wow, then it is really a good news but can anyone else confirm it....Please
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Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.

mandzo said:
Heres another screenshot from Phone Info app. Now the since this app detects knox warranty void on models like s4, s5 and as far as I know s6, I highly doubt samsung went thru the trouble of putting some undetectable warranty counter and a mid range device such as our S3 neos.
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My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.

Kashmir Hackers said:
My Phone is just two months old , should I root my mobile because I'm afraid of tripping the knox counter which obviously you can't reset.
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I rooted mine the second day I got it (I got it somewhere around January). So far havent had any problems with it and the knox (if there is one) still says 0x0. That said rooting and flashing custom recovery is still something that may potentialy harm your device so its up to you to decide. Dont take my words as 100% proof everything will be ok. Maybe indeed w8 for a few more ppl to say if they had any problems with knox so far.

Kashmir Hackers said:
Does it really mean we have Knox Security if the app shows 0x0 ???
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I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
I am not 100% sure mate.
I checked my build.prop file and I found this "ro.config.knox=v00" I don"t know if it means, our phone has knox. I also found an app called "KNOX notification manager" in settings.
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Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.

mandzo said:
Knox isnt only related to warranty btw. It allso has to do with samsung enterprise security crap. Thats why we have some knox apps on our phones.
But again w8 for more reports from ppl who have rooted before you do it just to be safe.
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Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished

Kashmir Hackers said:
Hey Buddy guess what? I took the risk and rooted my mobile with Cf Auto Root method and everything went smoothely and when I checked Knox status with apps nothing has changed and in Odin mode also only status has changed to Custom nothing else.
Mission Accomplished
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Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.

mandzo said:
Glad everything went fine. Enjoy your rooted s3 neo.
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You know what after rooting my mobile the first thing I did is to remove the Knox crap from my mobile, they scared me enough but not anymore:good:

I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!

SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Happy to hear that , thanks buddy for letting others know.

SpaceDye said:
I can confirm that re-flashing a stock rom resets the binary counter to official. Happy rooting!
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Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.

funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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Yep! Your warranty will not be void as long as your device is running a stock rom when you turn it in. You can check your binary counter by going to download mode.

funchomix said:
Does it means I have my warranty back if I reflash official stock rom?
Im thinking about flash CM 12.1 but i still have 1 year and 6 month's warranty.
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If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.

Kashmir Hackers said:
If you flash CM 12.1 , it will trip the binary counter but you can always reset the binary counter with the help of Triangle Away App by ChainFire. Resetting the binary counter and then flashing the Stock Rom will restore the warranty of your device.
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On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%

maxxim62 said:
On this phone KNOX not work and does not tick. 100%
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I'm not talking about Knox Counter but I'm talking about Binary Counter which every Samsung phone already have and keeps track of how many times a custom firmware had been flashed. And as far as Knox Security is concerned there is still no way to reset Knox counter but fortunately S3 NEO don't have it.

Consequences of tripping knox?

Hey,
I've heard that tripping knox might disable the ability to use Samsung Pay in the future.
Do you know any other consequences of tripping knox - like being unable to use the fingerprint scanner or updating OTA on stock rom?

Yes.....OTA will more than likely be broken.
If your employer asks you to bring your device to work, you won't be able to connect to their secure server network.
Samsung *are* using tripped knox to deny warranty repairs....even if the fault is hardware based and couldn't possibly have been caused by modified software. (Some users will say that they have had a repair with tripped knox, but that's down to nothing more than pure luck.....Samsung's official line is that tripping knox WILL void warranty)
There may be other effects from tripping knox that I don't know about....best to see if anybody else answers.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

The S5 won't have Samsung Pay. Not the way the S6 does it. It's missing the MST chip.
Might as well root.

OTA still works after tripping KNOX (Stops working once you root or flash anything custom but starts working again once you're back on stock), I haven't found anything that doesn't work, fingerprint and private mode etc all still work
Haven't used Samsung Pay, possible things like that might stop working, but I have my doubts it breaks anything other than warranty

keithross39 said:
Yes.....OTA will more than likely be broken.
If your employer asks you to bring your device to work, you won't be able to connect to their secure server network.
Samsung *are* using tripped knox to deny warranty repairs....even if the fault is hardware based and couldn't possibly have been caused by modified software. (Some users will say that they have had a repair with tripped knox, but that's down to nothing more than pure luck.....Samsung's official line is that tripping knox WILL void warranty)
There may be other effects from tripping knox that I don't know about....best to see if anybody else answers.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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What do you mean about not being able connecting to a secure server network? I've never heard about that before :/
s3nr1 said:
The S5 won't have Samsung Pay. Not the way the S6 does it. It's missing the MST chip.
Might as well root.
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Yeah, considering the age of the phone, I'm also thinking about doing it without worrying about those thing - not sure yet though.
*Detection* said:
OTA still works after tripping KNOX (Stops working once you root or flash anything custom but starts working again once you're back on stock), I haven't found anything that doesn't work, fingerprint and private mode etc all still work
Haven't used Samsung Pay, possible things like that might stop working, but I have my doubts it breaks anything other than warranty
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And you're positve that OTA and all the other stuff still works like if it was 0x0?
Thanks for the answers

Daabeck said:
And you're positve that OTA and all the other stuff still works like if it was 0x0?
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Of course, that's how I update, I just flash back to stock, and OTA update, then root again
OTA only stops working if it sees you have modified the OS, such as root or adblocking etc, that's why I flash back to stock for the OTA

If you've never heard of a secure server network (also called a 'business enterprise' network) and your employer has never asked you to/will never ask you to bring your device to work, tripping knox is not an issue.....The main thing you have to consider is what if you need a warranty repair?.......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

I will attest to the fact that it does. However if you reflash the factory image no Knox
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p0krf2ce said:
I will attest to the fact that it does. However if you reflash the factory image no Knox
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Do you even understand what KNOX is?
Attest to the fact that it does what?
Flashing stock does NOT reset KNOX

*Detection* said:
Do you even understand what KNOX is?
Attest to the fact that it does what?
Flashing stock does NOT reset KNOX
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Totally agreed.......
One of the most experienced, highly respected developers on XDA (Chainfire) is of the informed opinion that knox is an eFuse.
As such it CANNOT be reset, and that once tripped, it REMAINS tripped........forever......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

I have tripped KNOX and the finger scanner does not work. Samsung Pay does not work (B.A. at least).
When I fash back to stock counter reads 0x0. Forgive my ignorance of the efuse.
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Do you even understand what KNOX is?
Attest to the fact that it does what?
Flashing stock does NOT reset KNOX
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p0krf2ce said:
I have tripped KNOX and the finger scanner does not work. Samsung Pay does not work (B.A. at least).
When I fash back to stock counter reads 0x0. Forgive my ignorance of the efuse.
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If it says 0x0, then you never tripped KNOX in the first place
And the fingerprint scanner works fine with tripped KNOX, something else is wrong
Or you don't have an S5

*Detection* said:
If it says 0x0, then you never tripped KNOX in the first place
And the fingerprint scanner works fine with tripped KNOX, something else is wrong
Or you don't have an S5
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I am using the S6 but have had the S 5 and S 4. I have tripped KNOX using TWRP method purposely. Flashed stock and I read 0x0. Ping-pong works fine. I have soft bricked, bootlooped, ended up with just battery symbol. And stock has always brought me back to life. I am not arguing but as far as the software is concerned it looks like I haven't tripped KNOX. So I must not understand somethong else. I thought the efuse was hardware?
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p0krf2ce said:
I am using the S6 but have had the S 5 and S 4. I have tripped KNOX using TWRP method purposely. Flashed stock and I read 0x0. Ping-pong works fine. I have soft bricked, bootlooped, ended up with just battery symbol. And stock has always brought me back to life. I am not arguing but as far as the software is concerned it looks like I haven't tripped KNOX. So I must not understand somethong else. I thought the efuse was hardware?
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To put it very simply, if you had EVER tripped KNOX on the S5 (Can't speak for other devices) then 1000% you have never ever reset it from 0x1 back to 0x0, guaranteed
KNOX is a hardware eFuse yes, once it burns out, that's it, gone, forever on 0x1
Flashing stock does absolutely nothing to repair KNOX 0x1, nothing, so get that out of your head
Bricking your phone, and recovering it by flashing stock again, has no connection to KNOX 0x1 > 0x0
It's easy as pie to unbrick an S5, it's impossible to reset KNOX 0x1
In fact, last I heard, there was a substantial reward for anyone who managed to reset KNOX back to 0x0

*Detection* said:
To put it very simply, if you had EVER tripped KNOX on the S5 (Can't speak for other devices) then 1000% you have never ever reset it from 0x1 back to 0x0, guaranteed
KNOX is a hardware eFuse yes, once it burns out, that's it, gone, forever on 0x1
Flashing stock does absolutely nothing to repair KNOX 0x1, nothing, so get that out of your head
Bricking your phone, and recovering it by flashing stock again, has no connection to KNOX 0x1 > 0x0
It's easy as pie to unbrick an S5, it's impossible to reset KNOX 0x1
In fact, last I heard, there was a substantial reward for anyone who managed to reset KNOX back to 0x0
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I have tripped on the s4 variant repeatedly and reset the counter. And if there is a reward I deserve it. Because i have tripped the KNOX counter and reset as many other developers have. Here's a link to a great discussion on XDA about Locke and how to reset the counter if you're worried about your warranty. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738175
I am not arguing the validity of some efuse but I can make the software say 0x0 after 0x1.
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No you can't, not on the S5, which is the forum you are in right now, while talking about S6 and S4s....
If you do not own the S5, leave
You deserve nothing other than being put on iggy tbh
Read the thread you just linked to, all of it, show me the part that has the tutorial on resetting the S5 KNOX eFuse...
Go away troll
In fact, make an uncut video, showing the S5 with 0x1, and show how you reset it back to 0x0 - go ahead

Here's Chainfire's Google+ blog for additional info.......
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

Wow, people nowadays, somehow lollipop managed to bring on such ignorance, he just doesn't understand.

Frost009 said:
Wow, people nowadays, somehow lollipop managed to bring on such ignorance, he just doesn't understand.
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Um excuse me? Who EXACTLY are you calling ignorant? Chainfire by any chance?
If it is.....YOU stand to be corrected, as he KNOWS and UNDERSTANDS a damn sight more about android than 95% of members on here EVER WILL......including you or me.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

I read it as him talking about "p0krf2ce" - at least I hope he was
EDIT -After reading some other of his posts, I'm beginning to wonder...

after KNOX verification is tripped can you still use samsung pay?

I've read online that if you trip KNOX verification that the phone disables the functionality of Samsung pay.
I'm just asking if there has been anyone who has rooted and flashed a custom ROM and then successfully been able to use Samsung pay.
the warranty isn't what I'm worried about its the fact that it would prevent me from using new features released.
Thanks in advance,

Joshhumpy said:
I've read online that if you trip KNOX verification that the phone disables the functionality of Samsung pay.
I'm just asking if there has been anyone who has rooted and flashed a custom ROM and then successfully been able to use Samsung pay.
the warranty isn't what I'm worried about its the fact that it would prevent me from using new features released.
Thanks in advance,
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since the knox is tripped from 0x0 to 0x1, samsung pay stops working. Even if you are you using a custom rom, it ain't gonna work

success123 said:
since the knox is tripped from 0x0 to 0x1, samsung pay stops working. Even if you are you using a custom rom, it ain't gonna work
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That's dissapointing is it worth it to root and flash the new ROMs then?

Joshhumpy said:
That's dissapointing is it worth it to root and flash the new ROMs then?
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Yes... Go for it...
/CK