[Q] Question about root - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys, I've bought my new galaxy note 3 two days ago and I want to root it.
I've carefully read almost everything about root and knox, but some things are still obscure to me.
My note is running on Android 4.3
AP on N9005XXUDNK2
CP on N9005XXUDBJ7
CSC on MK2
According to the URDLV thread, I can't root AND keep my knox to 0x0
so my questions are:
There is any other way to root and keep my knox to 0x0 ?
If not, and if I still want root my phone, there is any advantage to use ROOT de la Vega instead of the cf-auto-root or any other way ?
(The cf way seem to be easier and faster)
Thank a lot for your help and sorry for my english :/

WormsCH said:
Hi guys, I've bought my new galaxy note 3 two days ago and I want to root it.
I've carefully read almost everything about root and knox, but some things are still obscure to me.
My note is running on Android 4.3
AP on N9005XXUDNK2
CP on N9005XXUDBJ7
CSC on MK2
According to the URDLV thread, I can't root AND keep my knox to 0x0
so my questions are:
There is any other way to root and keep my knox to 0x0 ?
If not, and if I still want root my phone, there is any advantage to use ROOT de la Vega instead of the cf-auto-root or any other way ?
(The cf way seem to be easier and faster)
Thank a lot for your help and sorry for my english :/
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Both URDLV and mobile odin cannot root without tripping knox with your phone bootloader.
Cf auto root is much easier. That's the advantage.

So, let's root with CF
and I hope someone will manage to find how to reset the knox. I'll add some $ to the bounty.
After rooting, will still be able to use OAT update ?

WormsCH said:
So, let's root with CF
and I hope someone will manage to find how to reset the knox. I'll add some $ to the bounty.
After rooting, will still be able to use OAT update ?
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Yes, RDLV will not trip your Knox, CF root does, correct me if I'm wrong. Once Knox is tripped, no OTA.

WormsCH said:
So, let's root with CF
and I hope someone will manage to find how to reset the knox. I'll add some $ to the bounty.
After rooting, will still be able to use OAT update ?
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Just now i flash back official firmware. No rooting, no custom recovery, still my phone status shows custom. So i think as long as you trip knox it will always show custom regardless if you're using stock or custom rom. However wanam exposed can revert it to official but not sure if OTA will work or not since no other update for my country but it does show 'your device is up to date' thing when i tried to update through OTA. So i guess it will work
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scarcett said:
Yes, RDLV will not trip your Knox, CF root does, correct me if I'm wrong. Once Knox is tripped, no OTA.
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Not likely with MK2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850

Ok, thank for your answers
One last question. I guess I'll not be able to use the installed app KNOX after the flag switched to 0x1 ?

WormsCH said:
Ok, thank for your answers
One last question. I guess I'll not be able to use the installed app KNOX after the flag switched to 0x1 ?
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Nope once the flag is 0x1 no knox (for now).

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VRoot for Note 3

Hi. Universal Root de la Vega's threat was clsoed and Op recommended us to use VRoot instead.
I found this Chinese VRoot and it looks very easy to do. Please see link below (in Chinese language, but you can use Google to translate)
http://www.mgyun.com/vroot
I just want to confirm if anyone had tried this and if it is KNOX 0x0 Root?
Thanks.
It do work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502967
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
Does it work on the new MJ4 rom workout triggering knox?
klau1 said:
Does it work on the new MJ4 rom workout triggering knox?
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Just got my N3 yesterday, mine is MJ7... Will VRoot work with the latest OTA already installed? I've done quite a bit of searching on getting this thing rooted but xda "banned" KINGO cause everyone is freaking out about some Chinese server or exploit threat or whatever, supposedly La Vega won't work after MJ7 OTA... Even though I've been rooting a while, this all has me confused on what really works and what just made it to the forums first but might not work... Any help with legit root and recovery methods would be MUCH APPRECIATED!
az_biker said:
Just got my N3 yesterday, mine is MJ7... Will VRoot work with the latest OTA already installed? I've done quite a bit of searching on getting this thing rooted but xda "banned" KINGO cause everyone is freaking out about some Chinese server or exploit threat or whatever, supposedly La Vega won't work after MJ7 OTA... Even though I've been rooting a while, this all has me confused on what really works and what just made it to the forums first but might not work... Any help with legit root and recovery methods would be MUCH APPRECIATED!
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If you're worried about Chinese root method than you better stay away form vroot. Even the interface is in Chinese. Kingoapp, has addressed the concerns that some people had with their latest version, 1.1.2. You can check out their facebook page where they explain it all.
Understand that if you plan on using a custom recovery or ROM it will trip Knox and vroot and Kingoapp are probably not the way you want to go. You might look at CF Root instead.
mvansomeren said:
If you're worried about Chinese root method than you better stay away form vroot. Even the interface is in Chinese. Kingoapp, has addressed the concerns that some people had with their latest version, 1.1.2. You can check out their facebook page where they explain it all.
Understand that if you plan on using a custom recovery or ROM it will trip Knox and vroot and Kingoapp are probably not the way you want to go. You might look at CF Root instead.
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Where did CF Root say it's method won't trip KNOX? serious question.
RDLV is the only one isn't it?
klau1 said:
Where did CF Root say it's method won't trip KNOX? serious question.
RDLV is the only one isn't it?
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CF Root will trip knox. What I was saying is that if you want a custom recovery or rom, you might as well go with CF Root because it is going to trip knox anyway. vroot and Kingoapp doesn't trip knox because you don't get a custom recovery or rom as part of the root. They let you use apps that require root and do modification on the stock rom (if you know what you're doing).
Will De Vega Work?
so will the de la vega root method work for the latest VRUBMJ7 update? If not, what other root method will work that will not trip KNOX? Thanks in advanced
mvansomeren said:
CF Root will trip knox. What I was saying is that if you want a custom recovery or rom, you might as well go with CF Root because it is going to trip knox anyway. vroot and Kingoapp doesn't trip knox because you don't get a custom recovery or rom as part of the root. They let you use apps that require root and do modification on the stock rom (if you know what you're doing).
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So even with the canadian version unlocked bootloader you cannot install TWRP without tripping knox? Guess i can just use TBU to backup everything instead.
If you do root with one of these methods be careful. They are a security risk. I'd use mobile Odin to reflash my stock firmware after rooting and maybe even factory reset, just to be sure that I'd nuked any naughty apps. Mobile Odin will allow you to retain root.
Sent from my beastly Note 3
vichet007 said:
Hi. Universal Root de la Vega's threat was clsoed and Op recommended us to use VRoot instead.
I found this Chinese VRoot and it looks very easy to do. Please see link below (in Chinese language, but you can use Google to translate)
http://www.mgyun.com/vroot
I just want to confirm if anyone had tried this and if it is KNOX 0x0 Root?
Thanks.
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English
http://www.mgyun.com/en/GetVRoot
It still was NOT easy to use, but I can confirm positively that it can work and in my case did not trip knox. I had to reboot the phone manually at one point because it appeared stuck and I tried a 2nd time. The 2nd time the windows app rebooted the phone and it did get rooted.
UPDATE:
Thanks to cubarican84, I used the following SIMPLE solution to clean up the chinese superuser mess: http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2013/11/How-to-Remove-Replace-VRoot-Chinese-superuser-with-SuperSU.html?m=1

[Q] Rooting Note 3 with MJ7 without triggering KNOX counter - Is it possible

Hey guys.
I recently got my new Note 3 (N9005, unlocked, no carrier) and upgraded it to the latest MJ7 FW. Now when I started to look for ways to root it, without triggering that KNOX counter, I couldn't find any clear info on it. Is it possible on the latest MJ7? If it is, how? Have anyone tried it?
Oh, just to make it clear - I'm aware of that "Root De La Vega" but first couldn't find working link to the scripts and second I couldn't find any info about whether it triggers the KNOX counter on MJ7 FW?
No that is not possible yet, because you are on the 'new' bootloader now, which prevents the RDLV method. I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox. Sorry man, but for now it's better to wait for some smart developer to come up with a solution...
And going back to older FW is not an option? I mean downloading old FW from sammobile and using Odin dropping this older FW?
stargazer_vit said:
And going back to older FW is not an option? I mean downloading old FW from sammobile and using Odin dropping this older FW?
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Downgrade isn't possible. U'll end up with boot loops if you try.
If u want root without triggering knox, then you'll have to wait until another exploit is found.
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Luycks said:
No that is not possible yet, because you are on the 'new' bootloader now, which prevents the RDLV method. I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox. Sorry man, but for now it's better to wait for some smart developer to come up with a solution...
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I tried kingo and vroot on my Note 3 (SM-9005, Firmware version MJ7). They both failed to root the device. But the KNOX remained 0x00, meaning that the warranty was still valid.
So, what do u mean by ' I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox.' Does it apply to MJ7? Or did someone succeed rooting the Note 3 with Firmware version MJ7 and end with voiding the KNOX warranty (0x01)?
zhengsmall said:
I tried kingo and vroot on my Note 3 (SM-9005, Firmware version MJ7). They both failed to root the device. But the KNOX remained 0x00, meaning that the warranty was still valid.
So, what do u mean by ' I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox.' Does it apply to MJ7? Or did someone succeed rooting the Note 3 with Firmware version MJ7 and end with voiding the KNOX warranty (0x01)?
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There is NO WAY at the moment to root MJ7 without triggering Knox... Period...
If you needed root you should've rooted it before update to MJ7 and then updated with Mobile ODIN Pro...But that ship hasn't only sailed, its been hit by an iceberg and sunk....
Thx anyway, I have to wait before new approaches are revealed since I'd like to keep the KNOX flag 0x00.
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Nope, you have the patched bootloader.
Useful information:
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-cf-auto-root
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog...ox-enabled-devices-and-knox-warranty-void-bit
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-root-de-la-vega
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[Q] Best way to root now ?

Hi there,
i will get my note 3 N9005 LTE today from amazon germany. So i was wondering whats the safest and easiest way to root the device without tripping warranty ?
I read many posts (knox, kingo, vega, problems with all of them, ...) , so i think the root de la vega is safe nowadays ?
And how to remove bloatware the easy way ?
Thank you
BleedingHeart said:
Hi there,
i will get my note 3 N9005 LTE today from amazon germany. So i was wondering whats the safest and easiest way to root the device without tripping warranty ?
I read many posts (knox, kingo, vega, problems with all of them, ...) , so i think the root de la vega is safe nowadays ?
And how to remove bloatware the easy way ?
Thank you
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root de la Vega will trip knox
Depending on what firmware you have the other ones will work with out tripping Knox
BleedingHeart said:
Hi there,
i will get my note 3 N9005 LTE today from amazon germany. So i was wondering whats the safest and easiest way to root the device without tripping warranty ?
I read many posts (knox, kingo, vega, problems with all of them, ...) , so i think the root de la vega is safe nowadays ?
And how to remove bloatware the easy way ?
Thank you
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1. DO NOT LET the phone auto-update or security-update.
2. If it is a N9005 check (with *#1234# ) your AP, CP and CSC
3. If you have AP <= MJ3 then you can very likely root with Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV); you can then update to MJ7 using Mobile Odin Pro (MOP) and keep root and knox 0x0.
Search around for more details on the specific thread on URDLV and URDLV+MOP.
xclub_101 said:
1. DO NOT LET the phone auto-update or security-update.
2. If it is a N9005 check (with *#1234# ) your AP, CP and CSC
3. If you have AP <= MJ3 then you can very likely root with Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV); you can then update to MJ7 using Mobile Odin Pro (MOP) and keep root and knox 0x0.
Search around for more details on the specific thread on URDLV and URDLV+MOP.
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if ap>mj7 what is the best root method. (I know knox will trigger)
m_carleone82 said:
if ap>mj7 what is the best root method. (I know knox will trigger)
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root de la Vega is easy way to root if you don't mind knox triggered
m_carleone82 said:
if ap>mj7 what is the best root method. (I know knox will trigger)
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If you don't mind triggering knox then you have more options - CF-auto-root is supposed to be easier but IMHO once you triggered knox you should also install a custom recovery (I would suggest Chenlu's CWM or Philz CWM) so that you can also make a complete backup of your phone to the external microSD.
xclub_101 said:
1. DO NOT LET the phone auto-update or security-update.
2. If it is a N9005 check (with *#1234# ) your AP, CP and CSC
3. If you have AP <= MJ3 then you can very likely root with Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV); you can then update to MJ7 using Mobile Odin Pro (MOP) and keep root and knox 0x0.
Search around for more details on the specific thread on URDLV and URDLV+MOP.
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Okay, i have N9005XXUBMJ3 in AP, so i use URDV to root and keep my warranty.
BleedingHeart said:
Okay, i have N9005XXUBMJ3 in AP, so i use URDV to root and keep my warranty.
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Mj3 prevents urdlv from using its hook -> will trip knox
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Killberty said:
Mj3 prevents urdlv from using its hook -> will trip knox
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Oh nooo ! .... did i missunderstood " 3. If you have AP <= MJ3 then you can very likely root with Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV)"
is there any way to root mj3 without tripping knox
BleedingHeart said:
Okay, i have N9005XXUBMJ3 in AP, so i use URDV to root and keep my warranty.
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I can not guarantee that, it seems in the URDLV thread there are 2-3 posters that say that were on MJ3 and applied URDLV to MJ3 ROM and knox was not tripped, but there are other that seem to say they tripped knox from MJ3.
xclub_101 said:
I can not guarantee that, it seems in the URDLV thread there are 2-3 posters that say that were on MJ3 and applied URDLV to MJ3 ROM and knox was not tripped, but there are other that seem to say they tripped knox from MJ3.
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I tripped knox on my note. Mine was MJ3 from O2 UK. But it was beginning of URDLV. Check how people from Germany rooted their phones and did they succeeded. That is best you can do.
I got my phone insured so if there will be something wrong with it I just say it was stolen.
Before rooting check your camera and multi-touch. Some notes have those issues.
Universal Root de la Vega v0.2 - Public Preview [KNOX 0x0 Root]
tsabrakar said:
I tripped knox on my note. Mine was MJ3 from O2 UK. But it was beginning of URDLV. Check how people from Germany rooted their phones and did they succeeded. That is best you can do.
I got my phone insured so if there will be something wrong with it I just say it was stolen.
Before rooting check your camera and multi-touch. Some notes have those issues.
Universal Root de la Vega v0.2 - Public Preview [KNOX 0x0 Root]
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German guy here
Mj3 or later ur f*cked (or your knox) for now
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There may be many factors which can help or prevent of rooting your phone. Carrier, model, country, rom version or just pure luck. :silly:
tsabrakar said:
There may be many factors which can help or prevent of rooting your phone. Carrier, model, country, rom version or just pure luck. :silly:
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try kingo i'm on mj4 and no knox tripped :good:
dancapitan said:
try kingo i'm on mj4 and no knox tripped :good:
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Not sure. Root device using Kingo Root?
I decided to return my note 3 because such a expensive phone should have warranty even i modified the software. :crying:
Maybe i will buy an lg g2 or another note 2 to install cm

Galaxy Note 3 N9005 Root With Out Tripping Knox ?

Hi as the title says how do i root my Galaxy note 3 N9005 without tripping Knox ? Also i know i can use towel root but i heard if the kernel build is before 2nd June then towel-root will not trip Knox my kernel date is 25th June ?? Any suggestions plz knox must not get tripped plz.. Thanks people
Read a little here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54415505&postcount=100 .You must search a little bit here.Are a lot of discussion about this problem.
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
Laamis said:
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
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Rooting with CF-Auto-Root has tripped the Knox counter of your Note 3. Congrats.
nitrousĀ² said:
Rooting with CF-Auto-Root has tripped the Knox counter of your Note 3. Congrats.
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lolz... oh yea?
Please tell me, what does this tripping Knox counter mean?
( sorry for stupid question... i answer it by myself... with using google)
http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
I was in an impression that I can still unroot this, without too much of hassle?
(Last time I checked, it showed 0x0)
Laamis said:
lolz... oh yea?
Please tell me, what does this tripping Knox counter mean?
( sorry for stupid question... i answer it by myself... with using google)
http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
I was in an impression that I can still unroot this, without too much of hassle?
(Last time I checked, it showed 0x0)
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It's not possible for your Knox flag to show 0x0 after flashing CF-Auto-Roo. As soon as you flash unsigned images to your Note 3, it'll trip knox and you may lose your warranty.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hi as the title says how do i root my Galaxy note 3 N9005 without tripping Knox ? Also i know i can use towel root but i heard if the kernel build is before 2nd June then towel-root will not trip Knox my kernel date is 25th June ?? Any suggestions plz knox must not get tripped plz.. Thanks people
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orly_mihai said:
Read a little here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54415505&postcount=100 .You must search a little bit here.Are a lot of discussion about this problem.
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Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...oot-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150
it takes 5 minutes, including reading OP, downloading and flashing
towelroot
go google for towelroot and download it! install as apk, simple and easy:good:
Laamis said:
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
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i mean i don't wont Knox counter tripped it has to stay on 0x0 after root access.. Also i heard if i flash roms after root that trips Knox count is there any truth to that ? Thanks
nitrousĀ² said:
It's not possible for your Knox flag to show 0x0 after flashing CF-Auto-Roo. As soon as you flash unsigned images to your Note 3, it'll trip knox and you may lose your warranty.
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You're right it seems :silly:
However I don't find this very offensive, as I offcourse accepted the risk before rooting. Allthough, I wish I'd have read more about which bloat I shouldn't have removed... that damn MagazineHome.apk is really pain in the ass. After I deleted it, --> stock email FC every time new message comes... and what really sucks, I was unable to restore or install MyMagazine or MagazineHome.apk (with or without .odex) to get rid of this annoying crash messages.
Not sure yet why I was unable to reinstall those... is there different versions of them on Verizons Note 3 than in my galaxy note 3 n9005 ?
And one thing I havent yet learned is, whether the Knox is avoiding me from doing these restores or managing to reinstall those properly? (help anyone?! please )

Can you root the Galaxy s8 without voiding knox warranty?

I saw a post on android central and a guy said he was able to root his note 3 with out tripping knox, he said that it didn't trip because he didn't flash a custom rom, and since SuperSU promps you if you want to disable knox when you download it. So my question is do you need a custom rom to root the galaxy s8 and does SuperSU actually stop knox from tripping?
Here is the link to that forum post that I saw:
HTML:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/ask-question/401468-just-rooted-supersu-wants-disable-knox-will-void-warranty.html
Thank you in advance if I don't respond. :good:
KingZeroKiryu said:
I saw a post on android central and a guy said he was able to root his note 3 with out tripping knox, he said that it didn't trip because he didn't flash a custom rom, and since SuperSU promps you if you want to disable knox when you download it. So my question is do you need a custom rom to root the galaxy s8 and does SuperSU actually stop knox from tripping?
Here is the link to that forum post that I saw:
HTML:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/ask-question/401468-just-rooted-supersu-wants-disable-knox-will-void-warranty.html
Thank you in advance if I don't respond. :good:
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Bro it was the first knox now it's smarter. You flash something that is not Samsung and your warranty is gone.
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