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[Q] lollipop + mirrorlink + honda civic 2015

Hey Ive recently received the lollipop upgrade on my gs5 and just found the mirrorlink setting Which got me excited to try it with my new honda civics display audio head unit. I let my phone connect to the HU with Bluetooth then I plug the samsung usb3 cable into my phone and it starts connecting to mirrorlink on its own. This worked about 3 times in the hour I spent trying it this morning with sygic car nav and miroamer. I just can't figure out how it works sometimes and won't connect others even from the mirrorlink settings turning on and off. Anyone else get this working??

Update: it worked again today just buy plugging it into the car's usb port while the phone is unlocke andd the screen goes black and says connecting. Then these right arrows show up on the head unit I click them and I can access my mirrorcast certifield apps.
Nine out of ten times though I plug the phone in to the car and nothing happens except the mirror cast settings say that mirror cast is active although the screen doesn't go black and doesn't connect.
Im just trying to figure out if the problem lies honda or samsung. Can anyone confirm this is working for then?

There are a couple threads over in the fitfreak forums about this same issue as well (2015 Fit and Civic have the same head unit). Mirrorlink is hit or miss and it seems there is no real way to have it initiate 100% of the time. Most people find success by having the phone unlocked and being in the mirrorlink settings menu when plugging in the usb cable. If that doesn't work, try unplugging and plugging in the usb cable a few times in rapid succession. It seems to kind of "trick" the system to recognize it. I also found better success with the usb port on the dash instead of the one in the center console (not sure if the civic has one in the center console).
I have both a 2015 Fit and a S5 and have yet to find a real use for mirrolink. I have one weather app that has mirrorlink support, but the screen goes black once you go into drive. I have yet to find a worthwhile app that supports mirrorlink.
If you happen to come across an app that is interesting let me know!

Hey Thanks for the reply.
I'll try rapidly connecting and disconnecting it. It seems to work about 1 in 15 times. The main app I would use it for is sygic car navigation it is designed for mirrorlink however it's like $40 after the trial. Also miroamer is a Internet radio app that works with mirrorlink those two are all that I know of.

same in honda City 2016
Just to let you know I'm facing exactly the same behavior with my S5 lollipop 5.0 and my Honda city 2016 head unit.
Sometimes it work, sometimes not. I also tried with lollipop 5.0.1 and get the same.
Now I'm back in lollipop 5.0 rooted, I'm trying to install drivelink to see if this could work, I will let you know any news
At this moment I only get working miroamer and sygic

update:
I upgraded to a galaxy note 4 and now mirror cast activates every time on the same 5.0.1 lollipop firmware. I've found a few more apps to try as well
-Glympse : see where your friends are on a GPS map
-parkopedia : find paid parking or free spots
-bringgo : GPS app not as nice as sygic
-audioteka : expensive audio books
And then miroamer Internet radio and the best one sygic car navigation which I just installed on the note 4 and will try out tomorrow omw to work.
Maybe the s5 will get a small update and fix the issues however my girlfriends s6 would connect then say incompatible phone on the Honda dash so not sure why that is.

Mirrorlink + Your OEM + Desired App, What to Expect
My wife just got a 2016 Honda-HRV and we've come across a lot of the same experience as others. I've done a little research and I just thought I'd share what I've come across here. Sorry for the obfuscated links, first time poster I'm not allowed to put external links in
After finding that Sygic works with mirrorlink while in Drive mode, I started researching Mirrorlink and looking for an SDK to see if I could create a basic app that could do the same (even if it's just hello world in drive mode).
I came across this Mirrorlink presentation by Ed Pichon - www slideshare net /bemyapp/mirrorlink-hackathon-workshop-presentation-by-ed-pichon
This is my best shot at interpreting this. If anyone is more familiar with the process, please feel free to chime in.
In summary (Slide 24 gives a good conceptual)-
- You have to design your app to CCC guidelines
- There's at least a "Base" requirements and a "Drive" requirements
- If you want your app to function in Drive mode, you have to comply to both sets.
- You Submit your app for certification and it's reviewed and lab tested.
- If certified, your application is signed with a private certificate held by the CCC/ Certification Body
- That signature contains a representation of scope that the app is approved for in the various regions (US, Basic - EU, Drive, etc)
- Your OEM Head Unit has a public CA (Certificate Authority) certificate that can verify the signature on the compatible mirrorlink app and grants the various scopes.
So from what I can tell based off the above presentation as well as the below link, Sygic has gone through this certification process and proven that it's car navigation app complies with the CCC drive standards (at least in the US, I haven't tested elsewhere). - www mirrorlink com /apps/Sygic
So what you need to look for to tell if you're going to have decent support is -
1. - An OEM that supports MirrorLink (Best to contact your OEM or read OEM documentation, not the dealer, for credible specifics) - mirrorlink com /cars
2. - A Phone that supports the correct level of MirrorLink for your OEM - mirrorlink com /phones
3. - A certified application for your mode and region (eg, Drive and US vs Park and EU). So far the following site only has what I assume to be a very incomplete list? - www mirrorlink com /apps
If you don't have AT LEAST those three things, I wouldn't expect much. I'm sure there's always going to be ways that people get around controls and I'm not interested in that, I just wanted to share what I came across to set expectations for people who are looking for things that Just Work. Hopefully Google and other larger app devs are going through this process to make their apps infotainment compatible though I'm not sure how big of a barrier the process is. I plan to join and try and create an app and get it certified and document the process.

Hi,
I've tried connecting my Samsung s6 edge to honda city 2016. After some time, it shows that "smartphone is not compatible".
Can to pls detail the steps you are doing to connect it to Honda city car and your car's Firmware version.
Thanks

I have the same problem as above only with Samsung galaxy s7 edge and Honda Civic 2016! Please help! Everything is switched on, certified and it should work. Except it doesn't...

Doesn't work with Samsung Galaxy S5 & Honda CR-V 2015. Same issue - "Smartphone is not compatible".

samsung galaxy s5 won't stay connected to prius 15

I have a Verizon Samsung galaxy s5 that will not stay connected to my 2015 Toyota prius. It connects once or twice and then it drops and loses Bluetooth although contacts are still there. Toyota says it's the phone because they tried other phones and they work. Verizon and Samsung say it's the updates on the car. Help!

tom/pat said:
I have a Verizon Samsung galaxy s5 that will not stay connected to my 2015 Toyota prius. It connects once or twice and then it drops and loses Bluetooth although contacts are still there. Toyota says it's the phone because they tried other phones and they work. Verizon and Samsung say it's the updates on the car. Help!
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It's always fun when companies blame each other instead of trying to find the problem. Have you asked Toyota if they have any bluetooth firmware updates they can update your car with? Or maybe even downgrade? Another thing to try is connect your phone to another bluetooth enabled device or someone else's car and test it. Narrow it down as much as possible. If it works on other cars and not yours, then I'd be heading back to Toyota.

samsungs5/toyota prius
BigBot96 said:
It's always fun when companies blame each other instead of trying to find the problem. Have you asked Toyota if they have any bluetooth firmware updates they can update your car with? Or maybe even downgrade? Another thing to try is connect your phone to another bluetooth enabled device or someone else's car and test it. Narrow it down as much as possible. If it works on other cars and not yours, then I'd be heading back to Toyota.
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We went back to Verizon and talked to someone there who actually has a Samsung galaxy s5 like mine. He does not have a prius but everytime he starts his car he has to go into his phone, click on Bluetooth and then tap on car multimedia under paired devices. By the time we got home we were exhausted and so stressed we didn't try it again and again to see if it was dropping. Toyota told my husband we need 5.1 update. Verizon told us it's not available yet through them. Our daughter has a Samsung s4 with 5.0.1 and it seems to work for her on our car. We are just so frustrated with the whole situation. Shame on Toyota for putting the car out there, saying the phone is compatible with the car and yet it isn't. Shame on Samsung for not making the 5.1 available. I feel like saying I'm done and yet I paid for a brand new car with hands free Bluetooth that nobody can get to work for us. I'm pretty close to putting all this on facebook for Toyota, Verizon and Samsung. Someone needs to step up to the place and fix this problem.

tom/pat said:
We went back to Verizon and talked to someone there who actually has a Samsung galaxy s5 like mine. He does not have a prius but everytime he starts his car he has to go into his phone, click on Bluetooth and then tap on car multimedia under paired devices. By the time we got home we were exhausted and so stressed we didn't try it again and again to see if it was dropping. Toyota told my husband we need 5.1 update. Verizon told us it's not available yet through them. Our daughter has a Samsung s4 with 5.0.1 and it seems to work for her on our car. We are just so frustrated with the whole situation. Shame on Toyota for putting the car out there, saying the phone is compatible with the car and yet it isn't. Shame on Samsung for not making the 5.1 available. I feel like saying I'm done and yet I paid for a brand new car with hands free Bluetooth that nobody can get to work for us. I'm pretty close to putting all this on facebook for Toyota, Verizon and Samsung. Someone needs to step up to the place and fix this problem.
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I have an S5 with kitkat and it connects perfectly to my 2012 Highlander. I don't have entune, so maybe that's what's throwing it off. Does your car (I assume because it's a '15) have the entune stereo system?
And not for nothing, but you can complain on facebook all day, and it won't make a difference:
1) Every company, especially Toyota, caters to the iPhone, not Android. There are loads of problems that they couldn't care less about fixing for that reason
2) It's probably working for >99% of the customers, so they will do nothing to help you. Clearly they blamed the phone, Samsung will blame Toyota. It's a cycle you can't get out of.

ldeveraux said:
I have an S5 with kitkat and it connects perfectly to my 2012 Highlander. I don't have entune, so maybe that's what's throwing it off. Does your car (I assume because it's a '15) have the entune stereo system?
And not for nothing, but you can complain on facebook all day, and it won't make a difference:
1) Every company, especially Toyota, caters to the iPhone, not Android. There are loads of problems that they couldn't care less about fixing for that reason
2) It's probably working for >99% of the customers, so they will do nothing to help you. Clearly they blamed the phone, Samsung will blame Toyota. It's a cycle you can't get out of.
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Thanks for your comments and yes we have entune. What can you do about it?

New Android Head Units from Pyle

Pyle has recently released a few head units running 4.4.4 Kitkat. From the Amazon description:
Android OS Computer:
Touchscreen 'Tablet-Style' Functionality
Smart Device MirrorLink/AirPlay Support
Processor: Quad Core 1.6 Ghz Cortex A9
OS Version: Android 4.4.4 (KitKat)
It also indicates "Unlock Tablet-Style functionality." I'm assuming this means it comes rooted.
While Pyle is not known as the paragon of quality, they appear to be the first brand with a US presence offering an Android HU. Since their other HUs appear to follow the US DIN standard these could have the advantage of fitting in one of the readily available dash kits.
Here are the two I found on Amazon:
[amazon dot com]/dp/B01BECUOTE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=S75ZYKYU5U3C&coliid=I25LAEC05MZLFW
[amazon dot com]/Pyle-PLDNAND621-Touchscreen-Navigation-Bluetooth/dp/B01BECUKD4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_422_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=51uMnRpESgL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1A4EM6W90HKY19XFNMQA_

how much RAM? I wonder where/how it was engineered? The biggest issue w/ these chinese HUs is the poor engineering standards. One of the biggest examples being the internal/external mic wired in parallel on joying/pumpkin HUs. This issue has been around for well over a year now, and despite pumping out new models they still haven't fixed this glaring issue.
To add to that, the whole MCU concept, and the fact that the BT is effectively de-coupled from the core system.
What I'd gladly pay $500 or so for (possibly more) -
- high quality DAC/pre-outs
- no MCU
- parrot BT FULLY INTEGRATED into the OS
- proper internal/external mic interaction
- octacore
- 2GB RAM
- android 5.0. Honestly not that big of a deal if the OS is stable and runs all the standard apps
- fully mappable/customizeable hotkeys for launching custom apps from SWC/physical buttons
That would be nice. I'd sacrifice my car custom plug & play HU with a standard double din w/ those features in a heartbeat. The glaring engineering flaws in all of these current android HUs is frustrating. But I live w/ it b/c it's still a nice upgrade over stock.

Hisma said:
how much RAM? I wonder where/how it was engineered? The biggest issue w/ these chinese HUs is the poor engineering standards. One of the biggest examples being the internal/external mic wired in parallel on joying/pumpkin HUs. This issue has been around for well over a year now, and despite pumping out new models they still haven't fixed this glaring issue.
To add to that, the whole MCU concept, and the fact that the BT is effectively de-coupled from the core system.
What I'd gladly pay $500 or so for (possibly more) -
- high quality DAC/pre-outs
- no MCU
- parrot BT FULLY INTEGRATED into the OS
- proper internal/external mic interaction
- octacore
- 2GB RAM
- android 5.0. Honestly not that big of a deal if the OS is stable and runs all the standard apps
- fully mappable/customizeable hotkeys for launching custom apps from SWC/physical buttons
That would be nice. I'd sacrifice my car custom plug & play HU with a standard double din w/ those features in a heartbeat. The glaring engineering flaws in all of these current android HUs is frustrating. But I live w/ it b/c it's still a nice upgrade over stock.
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Closest I've seen is the in-dash.net unit which is octacore with android 5.1 coming sometime this year, (allegedly). The MCU issue is unfortunately unavoidable at least until Google adds native bluetooth HFP into AOSP, which isn't likely to happen. And even then you still need something to be the go-between control of the amplifiers, LCD brightness control, etc.
I have the octacore in-dash.net unit and it's pretty good. My biggest beef is with the bluetooth handling. The interface is fairly basic. I think one thing that these units need is their own 'contacts' and 'dialer' apps that can dial via the bluetooth service but that also interacts with my google contacts, google maps, phone links, etc so that I don't have to do the contacts sharing, or copy and paste phone numbers from web searches or maps searches. I've got the feeling that that is easier said than done but it is key in my mind.
This is my first android HU so I'm not super familiar with the mic issues that seem to plague them. My external mic seems to just be really quiet pickup. I was thinking of getting a little pre-amp for it to put in between the plug and the HU. Perhaps I should do some more research first?
I have just been using the built in amp so far. Was thinking about testing the pre-outs on this unit. I suppose I could just break it down and take a look at the components to see if I can determine what DAC is being used.
Oh, also I don't have SWC in my car but this unit is setup for them. Not sure the physical interface specifically as I didn't purchase that option but the mapping is all in the "vehicle interface settings" app on the unit.

Not all of these head units have the mic problem. But joying & pumpkin, which are two of the most popular models, do have this problem. I used to have a joying, now I have a 2nd gen AN-21U, and it doesn't have the mic problem.
Yes the ability to fully integrate our phones with google now via the HU would be perfect. Google now has all my contacts as I have an android phone and save my contacts to google. But trying to call a number this way goes nowhere. Really a way to make the whole experience as hands free as possible would be great. Ford has sync, mazda has gracenote, and there are others I'm sure that attempt to implement a fully hands free system.
Other users have already examined the DAC in these units. One made an audio mod that integrates the DAC directly with the unit instead of passing it through the MCU, which significantly improves the unit's audio capabilities. It's just another example of the head sctatching engineering decisions on these things.
more info here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/mtcb-hardware-development/mtc-sound-controlling-bd37xxx-sound-t3234660
Btw I am not sure if there is a universal pre-out configuration for these, but my AN-21U has 1V unshielded pre-outs. Pretty frustrating. I get some "white noise" in the background when I up the volume thanks to the high noise floor. Considering putting in some high quality RCA cables to see if that helps, but obviously if the pre-out voltage was higher this would be less of an issue.

Pyle PLDNAND621
I 've bought and been using one of these for about a week now and had a couple questions for you guys. This radio seems to have an app for controlling the Bluetooth function and is not controlled within the settings menus. Do you think think the app could be changed as a Bluetooth obd2 module I use with other Android device works fine with the same car. I have the same question for the radio tuner app, I don't like the layout and it won't tell me the song titles . I search but can't find a "local station" radio tuner app.
Thanks for any ideas, Doug

I've got it and rooted it on 4.4.4 su etc ...flash fire enabled.....anyone point me to someone that could walk me thru dumping the rom on this unit and someone that can then make a custom recovery we would be in the game for this unit ..it has a recovery ..all I can say for right now .....v4a apk will not work on this unit due to some busy box error I cant stop ..I have it correct in the system ....so we need custom.rom.for it .....any one still wanna rip this thing?

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I've got it and rooted it on 4.4.4 su etc ...flash fire enabled.....anyone point me to someone that could walk me thru dumping the rom on this unit and someone that can then make a custom recovery we would be in the game for this unit ..it has a recovery ..all I can say for right now .....v4a apk will not work on this unit due to some busy box error I cant stop ..I have it correct in the system ....so we need custom.rom.for it .....any one still wanna rip this thing?
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Please help. I upgraded my PYLE PLDNANDVR 695 and lost bluetooth. Pyle wants me to send it in for repair. I much rather fixing this myself.

Galaxy S8 Oreo android auto wireless. Possible?

Hello. i have android auto in my car. it works only cabled. is possible to activate it without usb cable in s8 rooted phone? can anyone suggest? thanks

Bluetooth ?

Here's a direct answer, and that is no, if you want it easy.
There are many articles online that state that maybe all Android 9 phones are supported, and only a few phones other than pixel and nexus phones are supported. From recent stuff online, Note 8 seems to be supported, not sure about S8 (I've never used Android Auto).This said, if you know S8 has the version of Android Auto with supported wireless, thats problem #1 solved. Otherwise, buy a pixel phone which I don't recommend for the sole purpose of wireless Android Auto support because of the next problem.
The next problem is your car. Not all cars support wireless Android Auto even though they do wired. There are three ways to solve this, from expensive to least expensive.
1. Buy a new car you know supports wireless Android Auto (way too expensive)
2. Buy a new head unit (computer and screen in your car, expensive of about 300 to 1000 dollars with experience needed in taking apart your car's inside)
3. Use this method from Developer Emil Borconi https://www.xda-developers.com/wireless-android-auto-head-unit-hack/ which does say root simplifies process (Which I'm guessing costs much less)
Good luck, and I recommend not buy new phone, don't buy new car, and don't waste too much money and time on something not very essential (although much less annoying, I agree).

I was unable to get my VZW Note8 SM-N950U Android 8 (R16NW.N950USQS5CRK1) to work with my Pioneer avh-w4400nex which supports wireless Android Auto. Wired (usb) works fine. Anxiously waiting for the official release of Pie (9).

please, why? the new android pie 9 announced the feature of android auto wireless? i didn't write so... i hope

Android Auto not starting when connected

Hey everyone, I'm having troubles getting android auto to work at all on my new s10+. All my previous android phones worked flawlessly. I have been trying all sorts of debug methods in order to get my car to launch AA somehow but to no avail. I would really appreciate anyones input on this.
Vehicle - Mercedes C300 2018
Phone - Snapdragon 128GB s10+ Tmobile

FuMMoD said:
Hey everyone, I'm having troubles getting android auto to work at all on my new s10+. All my previous android phones worked flawlessly. I have been trying all sorts of debug methods in order to get my car to launch AA somehow but to no avail. I would really appreciate anyones input on this.
Vehicle - Mercedes C300 2018
Phone - Snapdragon 128GB s10+ Tmobile
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Same here. And the 1% of the time it does launch all the setting are going and have to go through the initial setup. So annoying. Have a '16 Escalade.

I have no issues on Ford Sync 3, even is better than before with P20 Pro where it was not loaded usually on first time. Maybe try different cable?

On your display scroll over to your mercedes connect and choose it. You should see boxes to check for android auto and apple carplay

Had the same today with my new car and S10+
Resolved it by installing APK for Android Auto from APK mirror.
I chose "armeabi-v7a" variant from https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-auto/android-auto-5-4-5022-release/

Hi, what version you've used? I have tried 5.4.50and it doesn't work. I mean the app works, but it wont connect to my car.