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Note 3 making a Nandroid backup help required

Hello,
I rooted my note 3 using towelroot and warranty is still 0x0.
How can i do a Nandroid backup without tripping knox.
I have been told if i install cwm or trwp it will trip.
Thanks

re: knox - nandroid
Android Noobie said:
Hello,
I rooted my note 3 using towelroot and warranty is still 0x0.
How can i do a Nandroid backup without tripping knox.
I have been told if i install cwm or trwp it will trip.
Thanks
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You cannot make nandroid backups without first
installing twrp or cwm recovery.
And yes it will trip knox, there is no way around it.
Good luck!

Damm it.
What about mobile odin?
It says it will not increase counter.

re: mobile odin
Android Noobie said:
Damm it.
What about mobile odin?
It says it will not increase counter.
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Mobile Odin cannot make nandroid backups or any other kind of backups.
Mobile Odin will trip knox if you use it to flash twrp or cwm recovery or kernels.
Good luck!

Cheers mate.
I will just have to do without.
What happens if i install apk game files will it trip knox?

Android Noobie said:
Cheers mate.
I will just have to do without.
What happens if i install apk game files will it trip knox?
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It is perfectly safe to install apk game files and most all other apk files.
However some of the application and utility type apks may require root.
None of the apk types will effect or trip knox.
Good luck!

Android Noobie said:
Hello,
I rooted my note 3 using towelroot and warranty is still 0x0.
How can i do a Nandroid backup without tripping knox.
I have been told if i install cwm or trwp it will trip.
Thanks
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You can use this without a custom recovery: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup

jisoo said:
You can use this without a custom recovery: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
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Will it trip knox?

re: custom recovery
jisoo said:
You can use this without a custom recovery: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
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Sorry to say, but you are wrong, the app will only work with twrp,
cwm or some other custom recovery installed.
Requirements:
1. Rooted android phone
2. A terminal emulator installed on phone
3. Latest version of Busybox
4. A working CWM, TWRP or 4EXT based recovery installed
5. Some patience
Flashing/Installing any custom recovery will trip knox.
Looks like you have not read the full description of this
app at google playstore.

So no nandroid backup even online.

jisoo said:
You can use this without a custom recovery: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
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I tried this and im sure it worked fine.

Misterjunky said:
Sorry to say, but you are wrong, the app will only work with twrp,
cwm or some other custom recovery installed.
Requirements:
1. Rooted android phone
2. A terminal emulator installed on phone
3. Latest version of Busybox
4. A working CWM, TWRP or 4EXT based recovery installed
5. Some patience
Flashing/Installing any custom recovery will trip knox.
Looks like you have not read the full description of this
app at google playstore.
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Where did you see this list of requirements?

I tried it without cwm or trwp and im sure it worked fine.

[Q] Messed up Root with SU

Hey guys i need your help..
Acutally i think my problem isnt that big, but i dont want to take any further risk so i better ask before i´ll go on..
What i did.
I installed CWM
I Installed Super SU via CWM.
SU asks two questions while installing. (Overwrite recovery and root question)
Unfortunately i clicked no on the second question.(it says it´s permanent)
Now i dont have root on my device, no triangle, and SU app just stops when i click it.
What I want:
First of all i want root, to do the backup task (efs). Imei and System backup allready done.
Next step i aimed for was installing the Phoenix Rom.
Now my question is:
Can i just flash CFroot (i9505) for my S4 via odin without any risk?
After i have achived root and done the backup, i´ll just install the coustom rom with CWM ?
Thx in advance. Any help is really appreciated.

remortal said:
Hey guys i need your help..
Acutally i think my problem isnt that big, but i dont want to take any further risk so i better ask before i´ll go on..
What i did.
I installed CWM
I Installed Super SU via CWM.
SU asks two questions while installing. (Overwrite recovery and root question)
Unfortunately i clicked no on the second question.(it says it´s permanent)
Now i dont have root on my device, no triangle, and SU app just stops when i click it.
What I want:
First of all i want root, to do the backup task (efs). Imei and System backup allready done.
Next step i aimed for was installing the Phoenix Rom.
Now my question is:
Can i just flash CFroot (i9505) for my S4 via odin without any risk?
After i have achived root and done the backup, i´ll just install the coustom rom with CWM ?
Thx in advance. Any help is really appreciated.
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Hi ,
What custom recovery you have ?
Philz touch has an option to re root system
Go to Philz settings and choose to re root , also there you can deselect the option to verify ROOT ON EXIT so it will not happen again to you
Regarding your questions
CFroot with Odin , should be no problem , only problem depending in what bootloader you have is the knox bit will be triger
for your second question , before install a custom rom change your recovery to Philz or TWRP ( latest) they should work fine with any custom rom

Try Towelroot, no need flashing to get root. Just download/install the app and run it. Simple as that.
This of course if your device is supported.

Well the method with philz recovery worked fine for me now. Thanks
Seems anyway i have triggered the Knox counter:/
doesnt bother me at all, since i wanted to mod my phone anyway, but in worst case scenario, there is still no possibility to set the counter back or?

remortal said:
Well the method with philz recovery worked fine for me now. Thanks
Seems anyway i have triggered the Knox counter:/
doesnt bother me at all, since i wanted to mod my phone anyway, but in worst case scenario, there is still no possibility to set the counter back or?
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Glad it did
+1 with you about knox triggering

I have another question.
I dont have the yellow triangle oO is this becaused i triggered the knox counter?

remortal said:
I have another question.
I dont have the yellow triangle oO is this becaused i triggered the knox counter?
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I think the yellow triangle is been replaced by the knox bit ......no yellow triangle anymore

Can i revert from NG8/9 to NG2 with Odin?

I had a official stock firmware XXUA1NG2.
I used Towelroot apk to root my SM-900F and stay on stock.
I received and installed the NG8/9 update and lost root.
Is it safe to flash NG2 using odin to become official again and be able to use towelroot again?
PM is no problem, i am very gratefull for help

Best is to flash a NE2 rom again, data factory reset and reroot with TR. Then install superSU Pro and enable root survival to koop root after an OTA update. Or follow this guide to root an NGx rom with a older kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G900F met Tapatalk

gee2012 said:
Yes you can. Make sure to data factory reset afterwards. Then reboot with TR
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G900F met Tapatalk
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Ok, just to make sure.
I boot in download mode
open odin
put the tar file in PDA
untick re-partitioning
and hit start.
ps, i want to use this one : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=32639
oeps, looks like its for thailand

marcel112 said:
Ok, just to make sure.
I boot in download mode
open odin
put the tar file in PDA
untick re-partitioning
and hit start.
ps, i want to use this one : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=32639
oeps, looks like its for thailand
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I edited my post, please read it. Where do you live? Here is a Google Drive link to the unbranded Dutch PHN NE2 rom https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6Ufgy16r712ODRMRFhheGZMZEk/edit?usp=sharing. Download and flash it, data factory reset, root it with TR. BTW PDA is AP now in Odin 3.09.

gee2012 said:
I edited my post, please read it. Where do you live? Here is a Google Drive link to the Dutch PHN NE2 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6Ufgy16r712ODRMRFhheGZMZEk/edit?usp=sharing.
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same country as you.
I need the PHN version, sammobile only gives NG2
i'm downloading NE2 now from samsung-updates
real slow
Edit: yes, DL now....5 minutes till finish
Thanks for the fast download
Odin 3.07 will do?

marcel112 said:
same country as you.
I need the PHN version, sammobile only gives NG2
i'm downloading NE2 now from samsung-updates
real slow
Edit: yes, DL now....5 minutes till finish
Thnaks for the fast download
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So after the flash:
- Factory reset
- Root with TR
- Install superSU and Pro and enable root survival. Do not make superSU a system app.
- Now you can download and install the NG9 OTA and retain root.
I always use Odin 3.09 and had no issues so far, link http://odindownload.com/.
Good luck mate

gee2012 said:
So after the flash:
- Factory reset
- Root with TR
- Install superSU and Pro and enable root survival. Do not make superSU a system app.
- Now you can download and install the NG9 OTA and retain root.
I always use Odin 3.09 and had no issues so far, link http://odindownload.com/.
Good luck mate
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SuperSU, check
Pro??
How do you not make an app system app?

marcel112 said:
SuperSU, check
Pro??
How do you not make an app system app?
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The Pro app gives you more options and will serve you for years so its money well spend imo. You have the option to make superSU a system app in the Pro options but that means you can never install an OTA update because the system is modified so i wouldn`t do it.

gee2012 said:
The Pro app gives you more options and will serve you for years so its money well spend imo. You have the option to make superSU a system app in the Pro options but that means you can never install an OTA update because the system is modified so i wouldn`t do it.
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i'm copying some things now before flashing the tar....
one stupid question still not understand: when i flash normall SuperSu it will become automatic system app before i can flash pro or...?
After bying pro i can swithc it to non system app?

marcel112 said:
i'm copying some things now before flashing the tar....
one stupid question still not understand: when i flash normall SuperSu it will become automatic system app before i can flash pro or...?
After bying pro i can swithc it to non system app?
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Just install superSU and Pro, reboot and open the superSU app and enable the root surival mode and thats it mate. Then check for updates in settings/ about he phone and you`ll get a notification for NG9. Accept, download and install it.
Is everything clear mate?, i`am going to bed now, have to work in a few hours. Just do as i posted and you`ll be allright.

gee2012 said:
Just install superSU and Pro, reboot and open the superSU app and enable the root surival mode and thats it mate. Then check for updates in settings/ about he phone and you`ll get a notification for NG9. Accept, download and install it.
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Update:
Flashed the file i got rom you ( did i say thanks???:good::good
But, my hart skipped a beat!
Knox is allready tripped: what the ^%$&^&
i didnt even flashed a custom recovery or a custom rom...
Just seeing towelroot activated it
Q: is there a SS allready for our device?

Boot loop, can i pull battery?
cant get in recovery anymore

marcel112 said:
Boot loop, can i pull battery?
cant get in recovery anymore
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Yes, pull the battery and wait 15 seconds, then reboot in recovery and data factory reset. Is the KNOX flag tripped to 0x1?

gee2012 said:
Yes, pull the battery and wait 15 seconds, then reboot in recovery and data factory reset. Is the KNOX flag tripped to 0x1?
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Yes,
how is this possible?

marcel112 said:
Yes,
how is this possible?
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Flashed CF Auto Root, or a custom kernel or recovery? Did you get the phone new or second hand (used)?

gee2012 said:
Flashed CF Auto Root, or a custom kernel or recovery? Did you get the phone new or second hand (used)?
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i got tricked....it was second hand, 2 months old
didnt flashed any off them
edit: so, when its tripped i can use custom recovery and custom roms...
while its tripped allready or. just use towelroot and SS?

marcel112 said:
i got tricked....it was second hand, 2 months old
didnt flashed any off them
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Then it was rooted by the former owner allready. Samsung cannot deny warranty if you have a legitimate claim unless they can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect. At least you don`t have to be carefull anymore as KNOX is tripped anyway (just kidding)
Now you can use CF Auto Root to root http://download.chainfire.eu/397/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-klte-kltexx-smg900f.zip or Towelroot and flash custom recovery`s, roms and kernels as you wish. I`d still update super SU and install superSU Pro.

gee2012 said:
Then it was rooted by the former owner allready. Samsung cannot deny warranty if you have a legitimate claim unless they can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect. At least you don`t have to be carefull anymore as KNOX is tripped anyway (just kidding)
Now you can use CF Auto Root to root http://download.chainfire.eu/397/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-klte-kltexx-smg900f.zip or Towelroot and flash custom recovery`s, roms and kernels as you wish. I`d still update super SU and install superSU Pro.
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Thanks for all the help you provided to me.
when you are on a roll......also link for stock recovery, if i ever need it..

There are a few like Philz Touch recovery, TWRP 2.7.0.0 and CWM. Its best to try it yourself, i always liked Philz Touch recovery myself. They are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development. Good luck bro and till next time

gee2012 said:
There are a few like Philz Touch recovery, TWRP 2.7.0.0 and CWM. Its best to try it yourself, i always liked Philz Touch recovery myself. They are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development. Good luck bro and till next time
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No,no...you misunderstood......
i normally use TWRP, but i was asking for the stock recovery....just in case i want to go back to stock

Weird semi-root situation.

Hi guys,
Yesterday i have rooted a friend's phone with a laptop using the RootGenius application and all worked perfectly and the root is working good.
EDIT: I've tested other root apps on my friend's phone and it's the same problem. So that app didn't rooted correctly.
After that, i rooted my phone wich is a Samsung Galaxy S4 Black Edition (i9505) and...well, something went wrong there. After the root, all the programs were stopping working. The installed programs were not available and i couldn't open almost any app. I did a factory reset and now it's working fine, but...the root acces it's a little bit f****d up.
If i check the root with Root Checker, it says that i have root access. The superuser app is called KingUser and i never heard of this app.
Now, here comes the problem: if i want to use a root-needed app like GameCIH, for example, i grant the root access, but i can't use the app, it says that i don't have a rooted phone...
I can use the XMODGAMES app wich is also a root-needed app, but i want to use all the root apps, 'cause why not?
I tried to install SuperSU. When i open it, it says that i need to update SU binaries. I press normal, because i don't have a custom recovery and then i grant root acces and then it says: Failed, reboot the phone and try again. I rebooted it a few times and no succes, the same thing.
So what should i do?
Should i unroot it and then re-root it?
If yes, how?
Thanks.
Have a nice day.

Why not just use CF auto-root for flashing. Easiest method and never fails.

Unroot and reroot using CF-Autoroot. Search for the CF-Autoroot thread to learn how it's done.
Be aware however that this will trip the Knox flag.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Unroot and reroot using CF-Autoroot. Search for the CF-Autoroot thread to learn how it's done.
Be aware however that this will trip the Knox flag.
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Thanks, I will try to do that. But what means that it will trip Knox flag?

We have an entire thread on Samsung's Knox software on the forum, but in short the flag is a means for Samsung to tell the phone's firmware has been tampered with.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
We have an entire thread on Samsung's Knox software on the forum, but in short the flag is a means for Samsung to tell the phone's firmware has been tampered with.
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And so it's bad if i use cf-root?

Cubix202 said:
And so it's bad if i use cf-root?
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No, it's not.

Lennyz1988 said:
No, it's not.
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Ok thank you. I have one more question.
So i didn't find anything on how to unroot with cf-auto-root for android 5.0.1....
Can i root it over the root that it has right now?
I mean just root it again by following this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219803

Stay away from Kingroot,nothing but trouble,on some devices whitch are difficult to root it can be a sollution ,on Samsung it's Chainfire auto root. And i strongly advice to remove the Kinguser app !!!

ludoke said:
Stay away from Kingroot,nothing but trouble,on some devices whitch are difficult to root it can be a sollution ,on Samsung it's Chainfire auto root. And i strongly advice to remove the Kinguser app !!!
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This situation is beyond me
How can I remove the KingUser app?
Now i was trying to install CWM Recovery someway to be able to update su binaries trhu it with SuperSu.
Can i add you on Facebook or Steam or Skype or whatever to help me faster?
Or can you send me a detailed step-by-step thing to help me faster..?
Thanks

You can remove King user by clicking on the icon,hold it en move it to the left upper corner ,where it'saing delete app or something like that in Dutch it's "installatie ongedaan maken"
At first root whith Chainfire ,don't use CWM but TWRP 2.6.0.0? Search for it,and dont use TWRP 2.8.5.0.

ludoke said:
You can remove King user by clicking on the icon,hold it en move it to the left upper corner ,where it'saing delete app or something like that in Dutch it's "installatie ongedaan maken"
At first root whith Chainfire ,don't use CWM but TWRP 2.6.0.0? Search for it,and dont use TWRP 2.8.5.0.
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Damn, i just installed CWM recovery with succes....
I can't uninstall KingRoot or KingUser or KingMaster, whatever is called, it's installed as a system app.

And...i think i just ****ed up my recovery. I can't boot into recovery mode.

Cubix202 said:
Damn, i just installed CWM recovery with succes....
I can't uninstall KingRoot or KingUser or KingMaster, whatever is called, it's installed as a system app.
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That's why i said it's trouble, the only sollution to remove it is factory reset,root again and custom recovery,use this time TWRP much easier ,just touch and spare the volume rockers
Sorry,didn't know it's removable that way...says enough i think...

The factory reset dont unroot, i factory reseted and the phone is still in that trouble.
And with the recovery? Can i install TWRP now?

Ok so i figured out what i've done: I have installed Philz Recovery which is a CWM recovery 6 with touch version and it works via an app that boots into recovery (root app that fortunattely worked as root). So what do i need to do now?
If i open SuperSu it says that it needs to update the su binary. When i tap normal it fails and then i tap cwm/twrp, it dosen't do anything, even if i boot into recovery mode. Do i need to install a zip SU-BB? I did it and it didn't work. Any other ideas?

ludoke said:
You can remove King user by clicking on the icon,hold it en move it to the left upper corner ,where it'saing delete app or something like that in Dutch it's "installatie ongedaan maken"
At first root whith Chainfire ,don't use CWM but TWRP 2.6.0.0? Search for it,and dont use TWRP 2.8.5.0.
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Your information is outdated. TWRP is already on 2.8.7.0 and it's the only one that should be used. Do not use old version because it will give you conflicts with Lollipop.
Cubix202 said:
Ok so i figured out what i've done: I have installed Philz Recovery which is a CWM recovery 6 with touch version and it works via an app that boots into recovery (root app that fortunattely worked as root). So what do i need to do now?
If i open SuperSu it says that it needs to update the su binary. When i tap normal it fails and then i tap cwm/twrp, it dosen't do anything, even if i boot into recovery mode. Do i need to install a zip SU-BB? I did it and it didn't work. Any other ideas?
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What you need to do:
- If you are on the latest Philz just perform a full wipe. Reflash the rom. And do what I told you.

Lennyz1988 said:
Your information is outdated. TWRP is already on 2.8.7.0 and it's the only one that should be used. Do not use old version because it will give you conflicts with Lollipop.
What you need to do:
- If you are on the latest Philz just perform a full wipe. Reflash the rom. And do what I told you.
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I've bricked my phone.

Cubix202 said:
I've bricked my phone.
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No you have not.

Lennyz1988 said:
No you have not.
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Yes i have.
It is stuck at bootlogo SAMSUNG.

SM-N900W8 on n900w8vlu2doh1 - How do I safely root this?

Alright, so - I just got my hands on a Note 3 from a friend in Canada, aaaand naturally the first thing I wanna do with it is root it and stick a ROM on it. But most of the guides I've come across are somewhat outdated, and I'm a little hesitant to follow an outdated guide in case there's a mismatch of some sort with the kernel, bootloader, etc. I really don't wanna brick the thing the same day I get it.
It's on Build Number LRX21V.N900W8VLU2DOH1, Android 5.0/Lollipop, kernel 3.4.0-4348112. Reactivation Lock is off in settings. Again, it's a Canadian phone, and I believe the original carrier was Telus (it's not unlocked but he's going to get me the unlock code later today, supposedly)
I looked through the CF-AutoRoot list and I don't see this particular version available, but I think I saw in a thread on here that other AutoRoot packages will work with it.
I'm not totally clueless here, I've fiddled with my Galaxy S3 plenty and managed not to brick it, but I'd rather look before I leap.

Flash twrp 2.8.7.1 via Odin and then flash supersu via twrp.

audit13 said:
Flash twrp 2.8.7.1 via Odin and then flash supersu via twrp.
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Sweet. Do I have anything to worry about with flashing roms, KNOX, etc.?

Flashing twrp will trip the Knox counter and supersu will disable Knox.

audit13 said:
Flashing twrp will trip the Knox counter and supersu will disable Knox.
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Alrighty. I'm not too worried about the Knox counter as long as that doesn't have any bad implications for the device (no rom flashing or something), I'm certainly not gonna be claiming any warranties.

You need to flash twrp if you want to install a custom rom.

Yup, done, SuperSU's installed and root appears to work! Thanks for the advice. Now I just need to figure out why the back button stopped working. I read there's some custom kernel that fixes this.
EDIT: Yeah, idleKernel fixed the back button.

Jaitsu said:
Yup, done, SuperSU's installed and root appears to work! Thanks for the advice. Now I just need to figure out why the back button stopped working. I read there's some custom kernel that fixes this.
EDIT: Yeah, idleKernel fixed the back button.
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Where can i find this kernel

heimdallZ said:
Where can i find this kernel
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idleKernel is sorta defunct nowadays, I think, but I think I've found a mirror for you here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0By1qJV6BVww0NHRfX2tzNjJLWEE
If you have an N900W8, you want hlte-can. Honestly, though, it's been so long since I used idleKernel that I'm not 100% sure this is compatible with stock OH1 - best to make a backup with TWRP first.

Jaitsu said:
idleKernel is sorta defunct nowadays, I think, but I think I've found a mirror for you here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0By1qJV6BVww0NHRfX2tzNjJLWEE
If you have an N900W8, you want hlte-can. Honestly, though, it's been so long since I used idleKernel that I'm not 100% sure this is compatible with stock OH1 - best to make a backup with TWRP first.
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Tanks
I want just to root my fone and install twrp

heimdallZ said:
Tanks
I want just to root my fone and install twrp
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If you want my advice -
1. Install TWRP 2.8.7.0 (use 2.8.7.0, not 3.x, because 3.x is incompatible with a lot of installers in case you want a custom ROM later on) using Odin (volume down + home when powering on to access download mode for Odin)
2. Make a backup from TWRP (hold volume up + home key when powering on, then choose Backup and check everything, make sure you have room on your microSD card)
3. Install SuperSU from recovery
4. Install idleKernel using the zip file from recovery
That should get you rooted with no issues, and if there's any problem you have a backup to restore from.

Why do you just want to root and install TWRP ??

To do backup
But if you know a good custom rom please send a link to me

Custom rom you want one that works well on your specific model.
Sent from my SM-N930F using XDA-Developers Legacy app

JJEgan said:
Custom rom you want one that works well on your specific model.
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Yes just one
I have root and install twrp yet