[Q] Messed up Root with SU - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys i need your help..
Acutally i think my problem isnt that big, but i dont want to take any further risk so i better ask before i´ll go on..
What i did.
I installed CWM
I Installed Super SU via CWM.
SU asks two questions while installing. (Overwrite recovery and root question)
Unfortunately i clicked no on the second question.(it says it´s permanent)
Now i dont have root on my device, no triangle, and SU app just stops when i click it.
What I want:
First of all i want root, to do the backup task (efs). Imei and System backup allready done.
Next step i aimed for was installing the Phoenix Rom.
Now my question is:
Can i just flash CFroot (i9505) for my S4 via odin without any risk?
After i have achived root and done the backup, i´ll just install the coustom rom with CWM ?
Thx in advance. Any help is really appreciated.

remortal said:
Hey guys i need your help..
Acutally i think my problem isnt that big, but i dont want to take any further risk so i better ask before i´ll go on..
What i did.
I installed CWM
I Installed Super SU via CWM.
SU asks two questions while installing. (Overwrite recovery and root question)
Unfortunately i clicked no on the second question.(it says it´s permanent)
Now i dont have root on my device, no triangle, and SU app just stops when i click it.
What I want:
First of all i want root, to do the backup task (efs). Imei and System backup allready done.
Next step i aimed for was installing the Phoenix Rom.
Now my question is:
Can i just flash CFroot (i9505) for my S4 via odin without any risk?
After i have achived root and done the backup, i´ll just install the coustom rom with CWM ?
Thx in advance. Any help is really appreciated.
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Hi ,
What custom recovery you have ?
Philz touch has an option to re root system
Go to Philz settings and choose to re root , also there you can deselect the option to verify ROOT ON EXIT so it will not happen again to you
Regarding your questions
CFroot with Odin , should be no problem , only problem depending in what bootloader you have is the knox bit will be triger
for your second question , before install a custom rom change your recovery to Philz or TWRP ( latest) they should work fine with any custom rom

Try Towelroot, no need flashing to get root. Just download/install the app and run it. Simple as that.
This of course if your device is supported.

Well the method with philz recovery worked fine for me now. Thanks
Seems anyway i have triggered the Knox counter:/
doesnt bother me at all, since i wanted to mod my phone anyway, but in worst case scenario, there is still no possibility to set the counter back or?

remortal said:
Well the method with philz recovery worked fine for me now. Thanks
Seems anyway i have triggered the Knox counter:/
doesnt bother me at all, since i wanted to mod my phone anyway, but in worst case scenario, there is still no possibility to set the counter back or?
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Glad it did
+1 with you about knox triggering

I have another question.
I dont have the yellow triangle oO is this becaused i triggered the knox counter?

remortal said:
I have another question.
I dont have the yellow triangle oO is this becaused i triggered the knox counter?
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I think the yellow triangle is been replaced by the knox bit ......no yellow triangle anymore

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Rooting/unrooting

I just make a simple tutorial for rooting and unrooting in another post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22963897&postcount=117
Maybe little bit different but it works..
I'm SGT 8.9 user, but i have friend need my help for rooting his SGT P6800
so i implement the rooting process just like 8.9 do..
here is the method
For Rooting:
Download the root_original.zip from the attachment..
Transfer the attached file root_original.zip to the EXTERNAL SDCARD
Go To recovery menu, and choose "install update from external storage"
Choose root_original.zip with power button until it finish (apx 30 seconds)
Reboot
Install Superuser from market, run once..
Install Busybox Installer from market, then install busybox (if you need it just install, if not, dont do that)
Done..You just root
For Unrooting:
Uninstall Busybox with proper uninstaller if you use it (becarefull, some version will break your wifi module)
Uninstall superuser from Settings--application--manage application
Download the unroot_original.zip from the attachment..
Transfer the attached file unroot_original.zip to the EXTERNAL SDCARD
Go To recovery menu, and choose "install update from external storage"
Choose unroot_original.zip with power button until it finish (apx 30 seconds)
Reboot
Done.. You just Unroot..
Notes: Unrooting process only works with rooting process as mentioned above..
if you rooting from another file unrooting will works.. But you still need wipe and manually uninstall busybox if the root file include with it....
hope this help someone..
This is my reason why i dont include busybox in my root file package
1.Incompatibility issues between busybox version...
2.you dont use that too much, what kind operation you do with this tool for a month,,except if you dev.. You know well what you must to do.. Even softbrick, you dont use that..
3. Unrooting became complicated for me..
So, its your choice guys..
+1 is a gift for me if this post help you..
nice to meet u here
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Gan,kok postingannya ga dtaruh di development?
Yes..nice to meet you too
sudah ada judulnya di development, untuk newbie biasanya liat general dulu kan baru ke development..
Thanks for your work.
Could you please tell me what the different between root by stock recovery and root with CWM recovery?
kakahuynh said:
Thanks for your work.
Could you please tell me what the different between root by stock recovery and root with CWM recovery?
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Both of recovery recognized the script for rooting, the output is same..CWM is something we need coz it has ability to write and backup to a whole partition...
After rooting, do you get a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark when you boot the device like the one on the galaxy s2? If yes, will the unrooting method above remove it?
Thanks
The rooting process doesnt intact with recovery partition or kernel partition, so triangle not appear because this process..
there is no correlation between unrooting with removing triangle exclamation,..
This is my assumption..
Triangle exclamation is a warning that your current kernel or (maybe recovery) not an officially release by Samsung..
To remove triangle just replace your custom with official release and your 3Angle will disappear..
thanks for the answer, the reason why I asked is because there is counter that Samsung uses that shows how many times u rooted your device, just like in the galaxy s2, and that will definitely void my warranty.
mbushnaq00 said:
thanks for the answer, the reason why I asked is because there is counter that Samsung uses that shows how many times u rooted your device, just like in the galaxy s2, and that will definitely void my warranty.
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No my friend, binary counter will count when you using odin with custom kernel/firmware through download mode..
In SGS 2 and galaxyNote has same method for this..
so....in this binary counter case..if we use ODIN to flash the official samsung firmware, the counter will not detect...am i right??
and another question, if i flash custom firmware through ODIN and later on i flash back to the official firmware for warranty purpose, does the counter will be reset??
*thnxs in advance for your reply~
haidharbbc said:
so....in this binary counter case..if we use ODIN to flash the official samsung firmware, the counter will not detect...am i right??
and another question, if i flash custom firmware through ODIN and later on i flash back to the official firmware for warranty purpose, does the counter will be reset??
*thnxs in advance for your reply~
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First : In SGS2 and galaxy Note case the answer is yes.. Your counter still 0, im not sure with p6800.. post your download mode screen here for make sure..
Second: you cannot reset the counter with flashing official firmware.. You need usb jig or something similar with that to reset the counter..please read thread from gnote or Sgs2..
ok..thnxs..will do later..soon after i've downloaded
Sent from my GT-P6800 using xda premium
Has anyone try rooting their 7.7 with SuperOneClick v2.3.3?
Nope, maybe you can try.. But i think it wont work cause the exploit only works on 2.2 and 2.3 devices..
Halo friend,
would this be safe on the Verizon tab 7.7?
Terimah kasih
I dont know, never try this on verizon device, maybe you can try it..
Aman kok, jika gagal proses root akan berhenti tanpa pengaruh ke device..
went ahead and pulled the trigger....
and all is well....
now i just need CWMR

(Q) Unable to flash custom rom via CWM

Hi first time I am having a problem of not able to flash custom rom via recovery CWM, here's the problem, I am using Philz recovery whenever I flash zip, the process of flashing went ok, but when all done flashing I press Reboot System Now, recovery takes me to screen that give me a message Root Access is Missing - Root device, then YES -- Root Device (/system/xbin/su) I click YES..then reboot when to Samsung GS4 splash screen then just black afterward instead of seeing boot animation..and after 1 minute when back to recovery..that's it..I know I already double check that I have root access also using root checker everything is ok, I even flash stock firmware through odin no problem and re-root but still doesn't help..do you think I have a problem in /system/xbin/su folder..please help how to fix this..thank you soo much..
Trek55 said:
Hi first time I am having a problem of not able to flash custom rom via recovery CWM, here's the problem, I am using Philz recovery whenever I flash zip, the process of flashing went ok, but when all done flashing I press Reboot System Now, recovery takes me to screen that give me a message Root Access is Missing - Root device, then YES -- Root Device (/system/xbin/su) I click YES..then reboot when to Samsung GS4 splash screen then just black afterward instead of seeing boot animation..and after 1 minute when back to recovery..that's it..I know I already double check that I have root access also using root checker everything is ok, I even flash stock firmware through odin no problem and re-root but still doesn't help..do you think I have a problem in /system/xbin/su folder..please help how to fix this..thank you soo much..
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Which root method u are using
If possble use CF ROOT
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
123hiten said:
Which root method u are using
If possble use CF ROOT
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
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I am using CF Root .. I never seen a problem like this ever since my S3
Trek55 said:
I am using CF Root .. I never seen a problem like this ever since my S3
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Well it's a rare case but if possible put stock again reset the device from inside and do cf root and philz recovery all be well
There must be some bad system file or app causing this
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
solved**
Ok..I format my internal memory..then flash rom seems to be working for the first time, but then when I try to flash different custom rom..have the same problem again..hemm confused...
same here any fix ?
I have the same issue with my s3.
Trek55 said:
Hi first time I am having a problem of not able to flash custom rom via recovery CWM, here's the problem, I am using Philz recovery whenever I flash zip, the process of flashing went ok, but when all done flashing I press Reboot System Now, recovery takes me to screen that give me a message Root Access is Missing - Root device, then YES -- Root Device (/system/xbin/su) I click YES..then reboot when to Samsung GS4 splash screen then just black afterward instead of seeing boot animation..and after 1 minute when back to recovery..that's it..I know I already double check that I have root access also using root checker everything is ok, I even flash stock firmware through odin no problem and re-root but still doesn't help..do you think I have a problem in /system/xbin/su folder..please help how to fix this..thank you soo much..
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Hi there mate , If you already have root or any recovery suddenly ask you "You want too change/install root/recovery" you choose no cuz u dont wanna loose ur root after.
same problem in galaxy grand
Bro! I am currently on cm11 on i9082
I flashed it using cwm 6.0.4.5
Now I want to flash another custom ROM.
When installing custom ROM I press at "reboot system now"
It shows error:
"root access missing,root device?"
No...
Yes(root device)...
When I press any one of above then device get stucked at start screen.
The root checker app shows...
You device has root access...etc
Please solve the issue...

[Q] Please Help Me! Root Galaxy S4

Okay well, I have a GS4 GT-I 9500 on android 4.2.2 KitKat.
I updated it from 4.3 to this version when I was in Russia.
And lately, I heard of rooting and stuff so I'm a total newbie!
So, I jumped for some tutorials on the web and I learned about Pc Odin, chainfire root, and CWM recovery.
I used first a method wich involved using odin to push the CF auto-root with PDA into the phone while on download mode. I got only 'reset' but no 'pass' would show. And no supersu icon will appear in my app drawer. After lots of tires and multiple Odin version changes I succeeded in having 'pass', but nope, "no proper root access"(via root checker).
So then I used Odin to put CWM recovery in the phone and enter it to "install zip from sd card" and installed the CF auto-root . zip. Lines start to flow and ends with a "Done". Then I go back to reboot and it says something like do you want to fix root located in... before root? I tried "yes - fix root" and "no - just reboot" And both didn't fix it for me.
Finally, I tried motochopper.zip that have some files wich needed developer mode to be enabled and USB debugging. I only had to hit enter in run.bat and it starts the rooting process. But immediately says failure and gives an error like "failure supersu already available"...
I would really appreciate any help. I need my device rooted soon, please. Thanks in advance.
P.S: While on download mode, it shows that my phone status is modified. I won't mind having to force a factory reset if it'll fix something.
Thanks a lot!
I wonder if my post is visible to others, I really need my phone rooted
nicolaz_i said:
I wonder if my post is visible to others, I really need my phone rooted
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there is an app called framaroot, available by searching xda or google, usually works for rooting samsung phones.
there is also a pc app called Vroot that works almost like magic, every device i plug in is rooted within 2 minutes, even without drivers!
Nope...
Kobro said:
there is an app called framaroot, available by searching xda or google, usually works for rooting samsung phones.
there is also a pc app called Vroot that works almost like magic, every device i plug in is rooted within 2 minutes, even without drivers!
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Framaroot doesn't support the GT-i9500 model. I also tried Vroot and it didn't work. I'm really sure it's something from the phone...
Sorry bro, that didn't help
nicolaz_i said:
Okay well, I have a GS4 GT-I 9500 on android 4.2.2 KitKat.
I updated it from 4.3 to this version when I was in Russia.
And lately, I heard of rooting and stuff so I'm a total newbie!
So, I jumped for some tutorials on the web and I learned about Pc Odin, chainfire root, and CWM recovery.
I used first a method wich involved using odin to push the CF auto-root with PDA into the phone while on download mode. I got only 'reset' but no 'pass' would show. And no supersu icon will appear in my app drawer. After lots of tires and multiple Odin version changes I succeeded in having 'pass', but nope, "no proper root access"(via root checker).
So then I used Odin to put CWM recovery in the phone and enter it to "install zip from sd card" and installed the CF auto-root . zip. Lines start to flow and ends with a "Done". Then I go back to reboot and it says something like do you want to fix root located in... before root? I tried "yes - fix root" and "no - just reboot" And both didn't fix it for me.
Finally, I tried motochopper.zip that have some files wich needed developer mode to be enabled and USB debugging. I only had to hit enter in run.bat and it starts the rooting process. But immediately says failure and gives an error like "failure supersu already available"...
I would really appreciate any help. I need my device rooted soon, please. Thanks in advance.
P.S: While on download mode, it shows that my phone status is modified. I won't mind having to force a factory reset if it'll fix something.
Thanks a lot!
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If you have Clockwork Mod Recovery on your phone now, find a Superuse.zip install package and flash that in recovery. It will work like a charm.
easy steps !
download & flash touch philz Recovery via Odin
then go to recovery and select re-root system > > yes apply ( Supersu )
Then download supersu from google play and he will ask you how do you want to update binary ,just click normal
YEAH!! Finally rooted
RubbaBand said:
easy steps !
download & flash touch philz Recovery via Odin
then go to recovery and select re-root system > > yes apply ( Supersu )
Then download supersu from google play and he will ask you how do you want to update binary ,just click normal
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You sir, is the best person I ever known. Thanks a lot for saving my life. I swear I almost tried everything on the internet to root my phone, but none really worked. Please stay awesome. Bye.
nicolaz_i said:
You sir, is the best person I ever known. Thanks a lot for saving my life. I swear I almost tried everything on the internet to root my phone, but none really worked. Please stay awesome. Bye.
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anytime bro, if you have any questions or any problems send me PM
RubbaBand said:
easy steps !
download & flash touch philz Recovery via Odin
then go to recovery and select re-root system > > yes apply ( Supersu )
Then download supersu from google play and he will ask you how do you want to update binary ,just click normal
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dont you have to find the root pakage, or does philz do root without a root package?
Kobro said:
dont you have to find the root pakage, or does philz do root without a root package?
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No he doesnt need
RubbaBand said:
No he doesnt need
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so philz can root without any other downloads???
i didnt know that.
@Kobro
you need just to download SuperSu from google play
thats all
RubbaBand said:
@Kobro
you need just to download SuperSu from google play
thats all
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nice, now , just gotta find philz for my phone...
Kobro said:
nice, now , just gotta find philz for my phone...
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k bro

Weird semi-root situation.

Hi guys,
Yesterday i have rooted a friend's phone with a laptop using the RootGenius application and all worked perfectly and the root is working good.
EDIT: I've tested other root apps on my friend's phone and it's the same problem. So that app didn't rooted correctly.
After that, i rooted my phone wich is a Samsung Galaxy S4 Black Edition (i9505) and...well, something went wrong there. After the root, all the programs were stopping working. The installed programs were not available and i couldn't open almost any app. I did a factory reset and now it's working fine, but...the root acces it's a little bit f****d up.
If i check the root with Root Checker, it says that i have root access. The superuser app is called KingUser and i never heard of this app.
Now, here comes the problem: if i want to use a root-needed app like GameCIH, for example, i grant the root access, but i can't use the app, it says that i don't have a rooted phone...
I can use the XMODGAMES app wich is also a root-needed app, but i want to use all the root apps, 'cause why not?
I tried to install SuperSU. When i open it, it says that i need to update SU binaries. I press normal, because i don't have a custom recovery and then i grant root acces and then it says: Failed, reboot the phone and try again. I rebooted it a few times and no succes, the same thing.
So what should i do?
Should i unroot it and then re-root it?
If yes, how?
Thanks.
Have a nice day.
Why not just use CF auto-root for flashing. Easiest method and never fails.
Unroot and reroot using CF-Autoroot. Search for the CF-Autoroot thread to learn how it's done.
Be aware however that this will trip the Knox flag.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Unroot and reroot using CF-Autoroot. Search for the CF-Autoroot thread to learn how it's done.
Be aware however that this will trip the Knox flag.
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Thanks, I will try to do that. But what means that it will trip Knox flag?
We have an entire thread on Samsung's Knox software on the forum, but in short the flag is a means for Samsung to tell the phone's firmware has been tampered with.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
We have an entire thread on Samsung's Knox software on the forum, but in short the flag is a means for Samsung to tell the phone's firmware has been tampered with.
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And so it's bad if i use cf-root?
Cubix202 said:
And so it's bad if i use cf-root?
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No, it's not.
Lennyz1988 said:
No, it's not.
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Ok thank you. I have one more question.
So i didn't find anything on how to unroot with cf-auto-root for android 5.0.1....
Can i root it over the root that it has right now?
I mean just root it again by following this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219803
Stay away from Kingroot,nothing but trouble,on some devices whitch are difficult to root it can be a sollution ,on Samsung it's Chainfire auto root. And i strongly advice to remove the Kinguser app !!!
ludoke said:
Stay away from Kingroot,nothing but trouble,on some devices whitch are difficult to root it can be a sollution ,on Samsung it's Chainfire auto root. And i strongly advice to remove the Kinguser app !!!
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This situation is beyond me
How can I remove the KingUser app?
Now i was trying to install CWM Recovery someway to be able to update su binaries trhu it with SuperSu.
Can i add you on Facebook or Steam or Skype or whatever to help me faster?
Or can you send me a detailed step-by-step thing to help me faster..?
Thanks
You can remove King user by clicking on the icon,hold it en move it to the left upper corner ,where it'saing delete app or something like that in Dutch it's "installatie ongedaan maken"
At first root whith Chainfire ,don't use CWM but TWRP 2.6.0.0? Search for it,and dont use TWRP 2.8.5.0.
ludoke said:
You can remove King user by clicking on the icon,hold it en move it to the left upper corner ,where it'saing delete app or something like that in Dutch it's "installatie ongedaan maken"
At first root whith Chainfire ,don't use CWM but TWRP 2.6.0.0? Search for it,and dont use TWRP 2.8.5.0.
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Damn, i just installed CWM recovery with succes....
I can't uninstall KingRoot or KingUser or KingMaster, whatever is called, it's installed as a system app.
And...i think i just ****ed up my recovery. I can't boot into recovery mode.
Cubix202 said:
Damn, i just installed CWM recovery with succes....
I can't uninstall KingRoot or KingUser or KingMaster, whatever is called, it's installed as a system app.
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That's why i said it's trouble, the only sollution to remove it is factory reset,root again and custom recovery,use this time TWRP much easier ,just touch and spare the volume rockers
Sorry,didn't know it's removable that way...says enough i think...
The factory reset dont unroot, i factory reseted and the phone is still in that trouble.
And with the recovery? Can i install TWRP now?
Ok so i figured out what i've done: I have installed Philz Recovery which is a CWM recovery 6 with touch version and it works via an app that boots into recovery (root app that fortunattely worked as root). So what do i need to do now?
If i open SuperSu it says that it needs to update the su binary. When i tap normal it fails and then i tap cwm/twrp, it dosen't do anything, even if i boot into recovery mode. Do i need to install a zip SU-BB? I did it and it didn't work. Any other ideas?
ludoke said:
You can remove King user by clicking on the icon,hold it en move it to the left upper corner ,where it'saing delete app or something like that in Dutch it's "installatie ongedaan maken"
At first root whith Chainfire ,don't use CWM but TWRP 2.6.0.0? Search for it,and dont use TWRP 2.8.5.0.
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Your information is outdated. TWRP is already on 2.8.7.0 and it's the only one that should be used. Do not use old version because it will give you conflicts with Lollipop.
Cubix202 said:
Ok so i figured out what i've done: I have installed Philz Recovery which is a CWM recovery 6 with touch version and it works via an app that boots into recovery (root app that fortunattely worked as root). So what do i need to do now?
If i open SuperSu it says that it needs to update the su binary. When i tap normal it fails and then i tap cwm/twrp, it dosen't do anything, even if i boot into recovery mode. Do i need to install a zip SU-BB? I did it and it didn't work. Any other ideas?
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What you need to do:
- If you are on the latest Philz just perform a full wipe. Reflash the rom. And do what I told you.
Lennyz1988 said:
Your information is outdated. TWRP is already on 2.8.7.0 and it's the only one that should be used. Do not use old version because it will give you conflicts with Lollipop.
What you need to do:
- If you are on the latest Philz just perform a full wipe. Reflash the rom. And do what I told you.
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I've bricked my phone.
Cubix202 said:
I've bricked my phone.
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No you have not.
Lennyz1988 said:
No you have not.
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Yes i have.
It is stuck at bootlogo SAMSUNG.

i ****ed my mind...

hey guys. i wanna install cwm in note three but i can do it. ****ed phone blocked cwm . i rooted on odin., and i start flashing cwm, when i want boot cwm just see samsung galaxy note recovery booting secure bit warranty kernel yellow letters. and just boot up in my pin code. how to disable knox? knox blocking custom recoveries? i heard about. Super su maybe disable knox in app called super su? i dont waste my time with terminal emulator and root explorer this is absurd. i dont have good hands. so i dont wanna bricked my phone with root explorer and terminal.. help GUYS!!!
myka_1997 said:
hey guys. i wanna install cwm in note three but i can do it. ****ed phone blocked cwm . i rooted on odin., and i start flashing cwm, when i want boot cwm just see samsung galaxy note recovery booting secure bit warranty kernel yellow letters. and just boot up in my pin code. how to disable knox? knox blocking custom recoveries? i heard about. Super su maybe disable knox in app called super su? i dont waste my time with terminal emulator and root explorer this is absurd. i dont have good hands. so i dont wanna bricked my phone with root explorer and terminal.. help GUYS!!!
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why CWM when TWRP is good with most ROMs?
twrp all roms compatible? i dont knw how to install twrp could you give me steps?
myka_1997 said:
twrp all roms compatible? i dont knw how to install twrp could you give me steps?
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TWRP thread in development flash through odin .
Dont use above 2.8 for flashing Aroma based roms .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2494245
why i cant flash above

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