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Hi, I am interested in bying a Shift.
So I did read the manual and saw the pictures there and did not find an answer for :
1. does the SnapVue-Screen appear smaller than the Vista-Screen sreen? ( it looks like the screen of my advantage X7500 )
2. if I use the SnapVue for mail etc. , is the original keyboard disabled? ( it looks like I could only use the on-screen-keyboard )
Thank you and sorry for my poor english!
Hello,
1. Your right. In SnapVue (or WindowsMobile) the screen resolution is 640*480 like by an HTC-Advantage. Native resolution of the Shift display is 800*480, because of that, you have two black stripes left and right.
Anyway, i think the display is a little bigger.
2. Sure, you can use the hardwarekeyboard any time.
Bye,
Lyvia
P.S
Maybe this thread is interesting, if you which to use SnapVue "better."
http://www.modaco.com/content/windows-mobile-news/266537/liberate-your-htc-shift/
Hello Lyvia
and many thanks for Your quick answer.
And thank You for this link......
Best regards!
Wolf
So indeed the UK model is available in the Netherlands, just got mine.
My first impressions:
- The device actually feels smaller than I thought, feels only slightly heavier than my Diamond and much lighter than my Pro.
- The screen sensitivity for my finger is great, however it seems that I have to press harder with the stylus than on my Diamond.
- I cannot prevent touchflo 3D from installing, softresetting before customisation brings the device back in setup mode.
- The screen and the size of the buttons are great for finger usage.
- The device is faster than my Diamond and Pro, Touchflo 3D is really improved in terms of speed, however there is a lag when using the file explorer I didn't had on my previous devices.
- I really like the small led in the power button, indicating charching, bluetooth, etc. No more irritating charching lights from the action button when the device is next to my bed.
- All software I installed on my Diamond works on my HD (Spb products, Mobipocket, Pocketbreeze.)
- Did not test the GPS
- There is a soft bag for protection of the HD. The good is that it doesn't make the device much thicker. The bad is that it will not provide much protection (but it is included!!)
- The device comes with a 8GB microSD card (Sandisk.)
- The HD can be used in the HTC cradle, but without the special inlays, so a bit risky for the connector.
- No video-out (not in settings.)
- The full QWERTY on screen keyboard is better than on my Diamond, but still small and not as responsive to touch as I would want (I am used to my Iphone ;-))
Overall I think it is one of the best devices I have had for the last two years (a bit early to tell, but... first impression)
Can you tell us how vga apps work? Do they get stretched to fill the screen or are there black bars on top and bottom. I am talking about apps with no WVGA support.
Thanks!
Great post! I'm really looking forward to finding out how people get along with the HD. It's number one on my list of devices to replace my Touch.
please oh please try to play a divx movie thats perhaps the only thing that will make me sell my diamond i was used to see movies on my x7500 diamond sucks on plaaying video
yeah please try coreplayer/tcpmp with divx/xvid movies tell us the results!!
also if possible try some H264 (mp4 AVC) encoded videos
try resolutions around 640x360!
tboy2000 said:
Can you tell us how vga apps work? Do they get stretched to fill the screen or are there black bars on top and bottom. I am talking about apps with no WVGA support.
Thanks!
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All apps I tried so far just scale to fill the screen.
It looks great!
The apps even look better than on my X7500!
After tweaking some performance settings and after installing 10 apps, this baby is fast!!!
Everything is almost instantanously, never seen this on a HTC device before (and I have had a lot ;-))
if you tell me it plays divx flawlessly ill put my diamond for sale right now hehehe
Any comments about audio quality through the 3.5mm plug. Also does the cradle have audio out (through usb of the device)?
mkMoSs said:
yeah please try coreplayer/tcpmp with divx/xvid movies tell us the results!!
also if possible try some H264 (mp4 AVC) encoded videos
try resolutions around 640x360!
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Well, tried a video, 656 x 272 pixels, see for your self, will try TomTom 7 now
Domitri said:
if you tell me it plays divx flawlessly ill put my diamond for sale right now hehehe
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Sell your Diamond ;-)))
Trying to upload a video.... not that easy :-((
Update: uploading zip files do not work from my computer, so you would have to believe me on my word....
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Any comments about audio quality through the 3.5mm plug. Also does the cradle have audio out (through usb of the device)?
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The audio quality through the headset is great, its roughly the same as the Diamond, good bass, etc.
No sound through USB though, so no music through the cradle.
Looks great in the cradle though ;-)
OK, good news,
TomTom navigator 7 is working perfectly.
Better, no GPS lag (inside, because it is raining terribly here).
And look at Mobile Shell
This really is HTC's best device in years!!!
How does the sound compare with your iphone?
That cradle is huge, does it come with the package?
You have really kept up with all the PPC since the black and white days! Do you keep all of them or have you sold and upgraded throught he decade?
exe said:
How does the sound compare with your iphone?
That cradle is huge, does it come with the package?
You have really kept up with all the PPC since the black and white days! Do you keep all of them or have you sold and upgraded throught he decade?
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To be honest, the sound of both the Diamond and HD is much better than the sound of my Iphone, the sound is....more alive, more bass, etc.
I really like my Iphone and used it together with my Diamond for more than 3 months, and last month I mentioned that I was only using my Iphone. It is so much easier to use and the screen is really great.
But beside the UI, I think the HD beats the Iphone in a lot of aspects.
You have to buy the cradle seperately, it is a bit huge, yes.
I think I am an addict..... I kept some, not all, I am not that rich ;-))
tomtom
I also received my touch hd today! a great device, the big screen is really lovely.
I can't seem to make tomtom 7 working though. Wich cab did you use? I get the error message that it is not compatible with my device.
Thanks
Johnkorver,
It is indeed a good news that there is no lag in GPS
HTC Touch Diamond + HTC X7500 + Iphone 16 GB White + HTC Touch HD
Your collection is awesome
It was to good to be true...
I found a bug; the rollout menu's (don't know how to call it) do not work on non standard programs.
I had this bug also on my Samsung i780 with a 320x320 pixel screen.
You can select the different items using the keyboard though.
Look at the screenshot to see what I mean; I selected the main window menu.
hi johnkorver , what about 3g reception and system speaker related to diamond ? thnx
fdevogel said:
I also received my touch hd today! a great device, the big screen is really lovely.
I can't seem to make tomtom 7 working though. Wich cab did you use? I get the error message that it is not compatible with my device.
Thanks
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There is a special version, taken from the Diamond.
Use google and you willl find it ;-))
stesa said:
hi johnkorver , what about 3g reception and system speaker related to diamond ? thnx
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Finding out right now.
tried to put the Diamond battery in the HD.....
Dear all,
My Softbank X01HT need replace. I would like to buy a Touch pro or X1 or Touch HD. (Mainly is Touch Pro or X1. It is because it has a keyboard) My requirement is the mobile run smooth and sound louder. Any suggestion? Please advise. Thanks!
Wai Wai said:
Dear all,
My Softbank X01HT need replace. I would like to buy a Touch pro or X1 or Touch HD. (Mainly is Touch Pro or X1. It is because it has a keyboard) My requirement is the mobile run smooth and sound louder. Any suggestion? Please advise. Thanks!
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There are a lot of tests, comparisons and videos to exactly this decision all over the web. It's being discussed here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430501
I had to decide between these both too, because I wanted a WinMo device with a hardware keyboard. I then chose the Xperia for these reasons:
- better display with higher resolution
- longer battery lifetime
- 3,5" headphone jack
And I definitely don't regret the decision. The Xperia is simply the best pocketpcphonemusicplayer I ever had.
if you have a doubt... I strongly recommend you go get the Touch Pro....
only because I have a X1 and I want to be the only guy with the cool toy when everyone get their phone out in the bar
I was with the same doubt days ago.
I've chosen the X1 for various reasons, althrough the touch pro is cheaper:
- screen
- lighter
- better looking
- screen (again)
- curved slider (works nicely)
- slimer
- battery
- panels (through I don't really use them, they are like "beta" right now, for me, has more potential than TouchFlo. Also, I hate TouchFlo, don't like at all that interface)
Anyways, in the end, it's a matter of tastes, take a look at the two, compare keyboards (touch pro got a bunch of extra keys) and get the one you like more.
If you have the chance: try each of them out. Even a little typing test at a store gets you far -> if you're looking for a hw keyboard device testing each of them tells you alot. My preference is with the better keyboard of the TP and now that I have them both I tend to choose TP for main use and X1 for the weekends.
Many have experienced the X1 as the better performer sound-wise and I have also the feeling that X1 is smoother to use (drawback to me here is the limited use of each panel -> touchflo gives me more in one interface. The panels really taka a couple of secs to change between).
..btw: searching this forum gets you a ton of threads also such similar phones have been compared 'ad nauseam'..
As an owner of both the Xperia is much better for me...
xperia. better than that chubby feeling weird thing they call the touch pro
Lol, just stumbled on this thread, and boy are a lot of you full of yourselves with the X1.
Xperia surely gets me more attention than the iphone which is so common now.
also, people love it when i pull out the keyboard..they almost give out that 'wow' look.
x1 here 2
seeing as you are posting on the x1 section of the forum would be logical ;p
same reasons as the others it seems
some extra
i played with a iphone, pro, hd and x1 before deciding (phones of colleages)
the x1 is more responsive,
feels stronger,
touch screen seems more sensitive and lies a bit deeper in the phone
-->so less im lying on the table/in protector activating myself but more hard to remove dust at the edge of the screen (do get a decent protector as there is none included)
My wife has a pro (that i have to maintain (software ...)) i dont like the flow interface, looks good but isn't functional. that said i only use the Spb panel on the x1. (as main, do use the players ...)
i like that interface. panels could grow in the future.
...
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
Wai Wai said:
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
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Saw the Touch Pro and I prefer the X1. Larger screen, feels less bulky, less cramped keyboard.
UI you can fix - just get the TF3D menu software or go for SPB Mobile Shell
Ringtone - what's the issue? It does mp3's just fine. Only annoyance is for alarm tones u need to convert to WAV 1st (no MIDI allowed), but hardly a major problem.
GPS works fine - I have Tomtom running on it, and it's as good as the not-so-cheapo Mio Digiwalker I picked up two years ago
Wai Wai said:
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
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What about the UI?
The panels are great. With the SE-Panel you have everything you need in one panel -calender, messaging, weather, shortcuts aso...
You don't need to change pages like with the touchflothing. TouchFlo is one of the reasons for me not to buy a HTC phone.
I now have the SE Desktop Panel with everything I need, additionally a fullscreen weather panel if I want to know more about forecast, windspeeds and whatelse, one panel for everything that's multimedia and one panel is for the navigation software TomTom which works great with with the internal GPS.
Hm, I don't know what your issue with the ringtones is, but I haven't got a problem with them except that the speaker isn't the best so the doublebassdrum and electric guitars don't blow you away
Haha...Another problem occurs ....X1 or HD??(Haha...don't hit me...)
Hi, according to all you, is there an app that increases the sound quality (not only volume) but above all bass for our Neotouch? For example, for HTC devices there is SRS WOW HD (i tried to install it but later audio and bluetooth stopped working even if i followed the instructions about modify "olddriver" in registry........, fortunately i unistalled and all come back working)? Is there a similar app for our device?
Thank you very much (and sorry for my bad english)
PS: a small curiosity: which virtual java machine do you use on Acer, if you use one?
1. It's not for HTC devices, it's just an application...
2. There're several packages that do ... huh, partially work... But there're sleep issues on S200.
3. It's a matter of personal preference, whether to count this application as 'quality enhancer', but as for me, it's a sound distortion crapware... I would rather prefer better HF spectre...
As for Java, I use some modded jbed dated back to 2008, but the only java application I use is Opera Mini...
I'm interested too for a srs cab with no wake up issue on the acer s200 or another equalizer, if anyone found something...?
Too interests wow hd for acer s200...
It works for me perfectly, but the small animal if falls asleep, all will not wake up (...
Output while the such: I include before music listening (in customisations srs wow, I put a daw to use the driver), I include a player, I listen (it is possible to disable easy through a player the screen, the small animal will not fall asleep)... After listening, in options I switch off wow hd, not conveniently, but the sound is worthy of it...
All hope of the guru which can customise somehow wow hd under ours acer)
Excuse for bad English
I found that, its not very usuable but better than nothing
you will see a menu on the app wich show you "pcm session", that works only with it
Arto said:
I found that, its not very usuable but better than nothing
you will see a menu on the app wich show you "pcm session", that works only with it
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Too it is not bad possible to twist a sound (and it becomes loud also basses), but not all toddlers are displayed, on it it is heavy to customise a sound (more precisely normally not to customise in general) and as I have understood customisations are not saved
Update:
Has added eq in programs, through Gravity Sensor has customised, now it is possible to twist also all it is visible in landscape a mode)
sorry for my bad english (
Arto said:
I found that, its not very usuable but better than nothing
you will see a menu on the app wich show you "pcm session", that works only with it
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Hi Arto,
Had been using your customs rom 1.8 version. I must say you are doing a very good job! Loving it! Anyway, jus want to let you know I had accidentally found the SRS WOW for HD2. I installed it to your customs rom and was working perfectly! No wake up issues or anything!! Anyway, no wake up issues for me on the 1.8 version even before I install the SRS WOW...
Keep up the good work!
Alplow said:
Hi Arto,
Had been using your customs rom 1.8 version. I must say you are doing a very good job! Loving it! Anyway, jus want to let you know I had accidentally found the SRS WOW for HD2. I installed it to your customs rom and was working perfectly! No wake up issues or anything!! Anyway, no wake up issues for me on the 1.8 version even before I install the SRS WOW...
Keep up the good work!
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HU you are very lucky, I don't know how it is possible but I will try to see if a get it working too thx man
and welcome to Xda !
i need an a WM phone with an hardware keyboard;
i've tried a touchpro2 for a couple of days: a so-so experience. now i need your opinions (or info) about some critical points of the X2 (i've just read almost the whole forum, so i know the software issues)
gps
the tocuhpro2 has a small gps lag, even after some patches
keyboard
the touchpro2 has a great keyboard, maybe the best 'ive ever tried
the optical pad
the touchpro2 lacks any hardware scrolling (the zoom bar sucks)
free ram
with a custom rom (senseless – i hate sense/manila) the tp2 has 120mb free RAM
i remember tha X1 suffers too low volume problem. what about X2?
thank you very much and sorry for my english
gps I don't use
keyboard on X2 is great
optical pad is very OK
rings volume is OK if you set it to max
there's less RAM than on X1 but actually no problem with that
X2, it's on HW side a way better phone than any HTC one.
But the power of htc it's not on the toy HW, but on the large customer base.
On the x2 side, instead, seem that the main job of the majority of users is complaining about the phone and blaming sonyericsson.
And scaring the potential new users, will keep them away.
So, few users= less probability that someone (or SE itself) discover a fix, or produce a good mod/utility/sw.
That said X2 (as tp2) is a bit underpowered to run wm 6.5 but is still usable using few attention and few tweaks.
The GPS is absolutely great (few seconds to get the fix in indoor)
The keyboard is almost perfect
The display is really really nice
And the optical pad is useful in most situations, although wm 6.5.3 is more finger friendly than previous versions.
The build construction is great and is light years from the one seen on X1.
The audio power requires a longer discussion, unlike the X1, is powerful on the multimedia side (you can easly hear the gps direction even in a noisy car), but the ringtones and notification are low.
I just discovered that is one of SE cab that lowers the ringtone's volume, so I'm just investigating in a way to get the sound back, w/o loosing some of SE features.
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X2, it's on HW side a way better phone than any HTC one.
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what do you mean? the specs seem to me almost the same.
That said X2 (as tp2) is a bit underpowerd to run wm 6.5 but is still usable using few attention and few tweaks.
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yeah i know. but generallly i use a naked WM; then i install my "businness" plugins (pocketbreeze, rcm and a launcher) on the today. with this configuration (and with a little boost from the overclock) the tp2 almost flies.
i've read (in the change language thread) that it's possibile a barebone X2 (no panels and no SE customization). is this true? and how does it work?
at last: is the SDfix necessary even after the last fw upgrade?
thanks
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what do you mean? the specs seem to me almost the same.
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I mean globally...
Better camera, better build construction, sexy design, optical dpad, and so on.
yeah i know. but generallly i use a naked WM; then i install my "businness" plugins (pocketbreeze, rcm and a launcher) on the today. with this configuration (and with a little boost from the overclock) the tp2 almost flies.
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With the almost vanilla WM you can obtain blocking most of the oem cab installation, the phone is fast enough and pleasant to use, i never used RCM, but the stock contact management in the x2 is nice, other than the bit odd dialer (no quicksearch on the default tab).
at last: is the SDfix necessary even after the last fw upgrade?
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I'm not sure: i got a (minor) fs corruption, with the original SW (which was the worst WM implementation ever seen) after 5 minutes of usage, then I upgraded to MR2 and edited the registry, now the problem is gone, but I can't say if the "culprit" is MR2 or the registry fix.
I'm actually using the X2, without panel manager, slideview and other SE's ****s, and the phone works fine with about 110-120 mb of free ram.
Keyboard is great, trackpad is great, GPS works fine, camera is not what it was supossed to be, but it's still is better than TP's one. SD cad fix is still necessary, i've lossed data even with the last firmware, but with the fix works fine.
The phone speed is not great, but is enough, and if you want you can overclock it, but it's not necessary.
So if you don't like manilla, and you don't mind the software issues that are still present, i'll go for the X2.
robuash said:
I'm actually using the X2, without panel manager, slideview and other SE's ****s
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I don't think that SE softwares are ****s, they are simply too heavy for the X2 processor and memory. pixecity and growing panel ares simply useless, but the panel switching and slideview are nice, too heavy, a bit buggy but nice.
camera is not what it was supossed to be, but it's still is better than TP's one
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Your English is better than mine, and your description of the camera is perfect.
I confirm almost everything above.
Actually I use TileView Panel and it's very well working.
As well as SlideView.
As for camera, X2 takes great pictures.
Actually is one of the best in class IMO.
Video is edgy on start but it's indeed ok, especially with bigger resolution you can watch this full screen on laptops.
It doesn't match some HD cameras on Symbian or Android but it's ok.
The main concern is stability, but it mainly means X2 needs reboot every 3, 4 days.
Even with this, I still hardly imagine any substitute for X2.
And SE graphic elements suit me.
P.S. SdCardFix is a must.
ouch, i've just read that X2 seems to have problem running iGo8. can you confirm?
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ouch, i've just read that X2 seems to have problem running iGo8. can you confirm?
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I'm running igo8 (double installation Navtec/ Teleatlas) and it's working fine but not out of the box, you need the correct data.zip.
Navigon (final) is also working fine.
well, just got mine...
damn sexy but a little small.
WM6.5.3 with R3AA035; so the latest one.
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damn sexy but a little small.
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It's matter of personal preferences, but I find the size of X2... ...well, the right size.
The Solutor said:
It's matter of personal preferences, but I find the size of X2... ...well, the right size.
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Yes, i know. But i'm coming from tp2...
In the meanwhile i've removed almost all the programs listed as installed, i've applied sdfix and installed some of my favourite sw, except igo8 and operamini.
The X2 runs smooth, as smooth as tp2 with no manila/sense. In the near future i will try the stop-customization trick and the overclock.
The keyboard is good: better than X1's one but ages from tp2's.
The pad seems to me as a killer feature; finally a device "touch-non-touch".
Hope aebuttons (another favourite of mine) will let me set all the other buttons.
thanks
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Yes, i know. But i'm coming from tp2...
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I have a milestone also, a wider screen is helpful sometimes, but a larger phone is also a disadvantage...
The pad seems to me as a killer feature; finally a device "touch-non-touch".
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The hard input devices are indeed not common in the age of iphone dumbness.
Seem that no one cares anymore on how a jog dial (like the one present on the P series) or a joystick (like te one present on the k800 or the imate 8502) can be handy.
Btw the optical trackpad is definitely better than nothing.
Hope aebuttons (another favourite of mine) will let me set all the other buttons.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
I mapped the slideview button as start menu button with short press, and as task manager with long press.
I also mapped the volume buttons as a fake jog dial, so I can read ebooks happily as on my beloved p800.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
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what do you mean with "clean"?
and: there is a way to wake up the phone with any buttons?
thanks
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what does you mean with "clean"?
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w/o the oem cabs (panel manager/slidewiew and so on)
and: there is a way to wake up the phone with any buttons?
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Not tried yet, I don't think that aebutton can do that but some pones like the i780 had this option via a little oem control, maybe the X1, also but I'm not sure.
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I just discovered that is one of SE cab that lowers the ringtone's volume, so I'm just investigating in a way to get the sound back, w/o loosing some of SE features.
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try to modify "HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol" from "3" to "4" or"5".
it can make the ring vol larger on my X2.
just try it!
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try to modify "HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol" from "3" to "4" or"5".
it can make the ring vol larger on my X2.
just try it!
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Thanks, indeed I just checked my X2 and the default w/o most of the SE cabs installed is 5.
I'm still havent found what is the cab that changes this value.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
I mapped the slideview button as start menu button with short press, and as task manager with long press.
I also mapped the volume buttons as a fake jog dial, so I can read ebooks happily as on my beloved p800.
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I've done a clean install (softreset just after screen calibration), but now on every boot the system ask to me to resume the installation. i can say "no" but it's a little annoyance.