i need an a WM phone with an hardware keyboard;
i've tried a touchpro2 for a couple of days: a so-so experience. now i need your opinions (or info) about some critical points of the X2 (i've just read almost the whole forum, so i know the software issues)
gps
the tocuhpro2 has a small gps lag, even after some patches
keyboard
the touchpro2 has a great keyboard, maybe the best 'ive ever tried
the optical pad
the touchpro2 lacks any hardware scrolling (the zoom bar sucks)
free ram
with a custom rom (senseless – i hate sense/manila) the tp2 has 120mb free RAM
i remember tha X1 suffers too low volume problem. what about X2?
thank you very much and sorry for my english
gps I don't use
keyboard on X2 is great
optical pad is very OK
rings volume is OK if you set it to max
there's less RAM than on X1 but actually no problem with that
X2, it's on HW side a way better phone than any HTC one.
But the power of htc it's not on the toy HW, but on the large customer base.
On the x2 side, instead, seem that the main job of the majority of users is complaining about the phone and blaming sonyericsson.
And scaring the potential new users, will keep them away.
So, few users= less probability that someone (or SE itself) discover a fix, or produce a good mod/utility/sw.
That said X2 (as tp2) is a bit underpowered to run wm 6.5 but is still usable using few attention and few tweaks.
The GPS is absolutely great (few seconds to get the fix in indoor)
The keyboard is almost perfect
The display is really really nice
And the optical pad is useful in most situations, although wm 6.5.3 is more finger friendly than previous versions.
The build construction is great and is light years from the one seen on X1.
The audio power requires a longer discussion, unlike the X1, is powerful on the multimedia side (you can easly hear the gps direction even in a noisy car), but the ringtones and notification are low.
I just discovered that is one of SE cab that lowers the ringtone's volume, so I'm just investigating in a way to get the sound back, w/o loosing some of SE features.
The Solutor said:
X2, it's on HW side a way better phone than any HTC one.
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what do you mean? the specs seem to me almost the same.
That said X2 (as tp2) is a bit underpowerd to run wm 6.5 but is still usable using few attention and few tweaks.
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yeah i know. but generallly i use a naked WM; then i install my "businness" plugins (pocketbreeze, rcm and a launcher) on the today. with this configuration (and with a little boost from the overclock) the tp2 almost flies.
i've read (in the change language thread) that it's possibile a barebone X2 (no panels and no SE customization). is this true? and how does it work?
at last: is the SDfix necessary even after the last fw upgrade?
thanks
7ommy said:
what do you mean? the specs seem to me almost the same.
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I mean globally...
Better camera, better build construction, sexy design, optical dpad, and so on.
yeah i know. but generallly i use a naked WM; then i install my "businness" plugins (pocketbreeze, rcm and a launcher) on the today. with this configuration (and with a little boost from the overclock) the tp2 almost flies.
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With the almost vanilla WM you can obtain blocking most of the oem cab installation, the phone is fast enough and pleasant to use, i never used RCM, but the stock contact management in the x2 is nice, other than the bit odd dialer (no quicksearch on the default tab).
at last: is the SDfix necessary even after the last fw upgrade?
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I'm not sure: i got a (minor) fs corruption, with the original SW (which was the worst WM implementation ever seen) after 5 minutes of usage, then I upgraded to MR2 and edited the registry, now the problem is gone, but I can't say if the "culprit" is MR2 or the registry fix.
I'm actually using the X2, without panel manager, slideview and other SE's ****s, and the phone works fine with about 110-120 mb of free ram.
Keyboard is great, trackpad is great, GPS works fine, camera is not what it was supossed to be, but it's still is better than TP's one. SD cad fix is still necessary, i've lossed data even with the last firmware, but with the fix works fine.
The phone speed is not great, but is enough, and if you want you can overclock it, but it's not necessary.
So if you don't like manilla, and you don't mind the software issues that are still present, i'll go for the X2.
robuash said:
I'm actually using the X2, without panel manager, slideview and other SE's ****s
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I don't think that SE softwares are ****s, they are simply too heavy for the X2 processor and memory. pixecity and growing panel ares simply useless, but the panel switching and slideview are nice, too heavy, a bit buggy but nice.
camera is not what it was supossed to be, but it's still is better than TP's one
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Your English is better than mine, and your description of the camera is perfect.
I confirm almost everything above.
Actually I use TileView Panel and it's very well working.
As well as SlideView.
As for camera, X2 takes great pictures.
Actually is one of the best in class IMO.
Video is edgy on start but it's indeed ok, especially with bigger resolution you can watch this full screen on laptops.
It doesn't match some HD cameras on Symbian or Android but it's ok.
The main concern is stability, but it mainly means X2 needs reboot every 3, 4 days.
Even with this, I still hardly imagine any substitute for X2.
And SE graphic elements suit me.
P.S. SdCardFix is a must.
ouch, i've just read that X2 seems to have problem running iGo8. can you confirm?
7ommy said:
ouch, i've just read that X2 seems to have problem running iGo8. can you confirm?
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I'm running igo8 (double installation Navtec/ Teleatlas) and it's working fine but not out of the box, you need the correct data.zip.
Navigon (final) is also working fine.
well, just got mine...
damn sexy but a little small.
WM6.5.3 with R3AA035; so the latest one.
7ommy said:
damn sexy but a little small.
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It's matter of personal preferences, but I find the size of X2... ...well, the right size.
The Solutor said:
It's matter of personal preferences, but I find the size of X2... ...well, the right size.
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Yes, i know. But i'm coming from tp2...
In the meanwhile i've removed almost all the programs listed as installed, i've applied sdfix and installed some of my favourite sw, except igo8 and operamini.
The X2 runs smooth, as smooth as tp2 with no manila/sense. In the near future i will try the stop-customization trick and the overclock.
The keyboard is good: better than X1's one but ages from tp2's.
The pad seems to me as a killer feature; finally a device "touch-non-touch".
Hope aebuttons (another favourite of mine) will let me set all the other buttons.
thanks
7ommy said:
Yes, i know. But i'm coming from tp2...
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I have a milestone also, a wider screen is helpful sometimes, but a larger phone is also a disadvantage...
The pad seems to me as a killer feature; finally a device "touch-non-touch".
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The hard input devices are indeed not common in the age of iphone dumbness.
Seem that no one cares anymore on how a jog dial (like the one present on the P series) or a joystick (like te one present on the k800 or the imate 8502) can be handy.
Btw the optical trackpad is definitely better than nothing.
Hope aebuttons (another favourite of mine) will let me set all the other buttons.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
I mapped the slideview button as start menu button with short press, and as task manager with long press.
I also mapped the volume buttons as a fake jog dial, so I can read ebooks happily as on my beloved p800.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
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what do you mean with "clean"?
and: there is a way to wake up the phone with any buttons?
thanks
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what does you mean with "clean"?
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w/o the oem cabs (panel manager/slidewiew and so on)
and: there is a way to wake up the phone with any buttons?
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Not tried yet, I don't think that aebutton can do that but some pones like the i780 had this option via a little oem control, maybe the X1, also but I'm not sure.
The Solutor said:
I just discovered that is one of SE cab that lowers the ringtone's volume, so I'm just investigating in a way to get the sound back, w/o loosing some of SE features.
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try to modify "HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol" from "3" to "4" or"5".
it can make the ring vol larger on my X2.
just try it!
jack-xda said:
try to modify "HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol" from "3" to "4" or"5".
it can make the ring vol larger on my X2.
just try it!
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Thanks, indeed I just checked my X2 and the default w/o most of the SE cabs installed is 5.
I'm still havent found what is the cab that changes this value.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
I mapped the slideview button as start menu button with short press, and as task manager with long press.
I also mapped the volume buttons as a fake jog dial, so I can read ebooks happily as on my beloved p800.
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I've done a clean install (softreset just after screen calibration), but now on every boot the system ask to me to resume the installation. i can say "no" but it's a little annoyance.
Related
A little review with pics posted in my blog, in spanish language (sorry for inconvenience), of course, with pics.
Click on my sing.
I have played with the trinity 1 day(also have a jamin) and a few thoughts
No fingerprint problem in the white version at least(think how hard it is to keep a black car looking good--but easier with a white)
Boot up speed very fast--45 sec or better
Bluetooth music--you will need all the tweaks of the prophet/hermes but if done it sounds good. No skipping with iplay/ R35
3G works even with my old ATT sim card(very fast download speeds- 5 x edge). Able to stream Sirius on the high bitrate setting! Can receive voice call while getting data!
Not unstable--put pocketweather, weatherpanel, ip dashboard, pocket plus, chronos--no probs
Camera-better with low light conditions
Speed-overall better
Speaker/ringtone--louder
Downside-None yet
I still cant believe it....
Got my Trinity one week now and its really the best Gadget I ever had. There is simply nothing wrong with it. Everything works. Fantastic.
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Bluetooth music--you will need all the tweaks of the prophet/hermes but if done it sounds good...
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Which are all the tweaks? AFAIK there is only the 'JointStereo' one.
BTW--no problem streaming internet music over wifi to bluetooth headphones. This would not work on prophet
saminegm said:
Got my Trinity one week now and its really the best Gadget I ever had. There is simply nothing wrong with it. Everything works. Fantastic.
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Indeed, it is that great. I changed from Qtek 8310 (HTC Tornado) and I'm simply blown away about how much more you can do with this thing
Here's some pics of it:
http://www.sentiency.co.uk/weblog/pivot/entry.php?id=14
jesba said:
Indeed, it is that great. I changed from Qtek 8310 (HTC Tornado) and I'm simply blown away about how much more you can do with this thing
Here's some pics of it:
http://www.sentiency.co.uk/weblog/pivot/entry.php?id=14
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nice pics jesba...thanks.
For Dutch people my review:
http://www.windowsmobiles.nl/index.php?topic=1350.0
With a lot of detail pictures.
jesba said:
Indeed, it is that great. I changed from Qtek 8310 (HTC Tornado) and I'm simply blown away about how much more you can do with this thing
Here's some pics of it:
http://www.sentiency.co.uk/weblog/pivot/entry.php?id=14
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the black really looks good on this unit!
adewidt said:
For Dutch people my review:
http://www.windowsmobiles.nl/index.php?topic=1350.0
With a lot of detail pictures.
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Dude! Do you have the same sluggishness with the dutch P3600 (maybe WWE has it also)... i really think it's horribly slow sometimes; slow menu popups, unbearable scrolling-speed, etc. It seems to consume lots of RAM compared to WM2003SE on Jam when running.
Nice review btw !
Do you have any good tips in the field of registry-hacks 'n stuff ? Like making it possible to map more buttons ?
I've read somewhere here that there's a lot of tweaks for Bluetooth stereo on the TyTN and the S200...what would those be, and can someone explain some more about that ? (i'm having trouble connecting it for the first time, and some dropouts sometimes... will resume music after phonecall though )
hey Sagit, i think you should hide your IME #...
James281 said:
hey Sagit, i think you should hide your IME #...
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why is that? what can be done with a stolen IMIE #?
Moaske said:
Dude! Do you have the same sluggishness with the dutch P3600 (maybe WWE has it also)... i really think it's horribly slow sometimes; slow menu popups, unbearable scrolling-speed, etc. It seems to consume lots of RAM compared to WM2003SE on Jam when running.
Nice review btw !
Do you have any good tips in the field of registry-hacks 'n stuff ? Like making it possible to map more buttons ?
I've read somewhere here that there's a lot of tweaks for Bluetooth stereo on the TyTN and the S200...what would those be, and can someone explain some more about that ? (i'm having trouble connecting it for the first time, and some dropouts sometimes... will resume music after phonecall though )
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When a lot of programs are open it slow down a bit, but not that much. The reaction time of menus is slower then mine Qtek s100. I don't know if it is a WM5 issue or the device. Emulators like Scumm and Dosbox feel definitely faster.
I also made some registry and Windows Mobiles hacks.
I mapped the speech recognition button to the CommManager and the voice recorder is the speech recognition button.
I added the US/WWE softkeyboard to the device. The Dutch keyboard is missing the question-mark and exclamation-mark when showing large keys.
I now have the WWE keyboard which is definitely better.
Maybe I try to create a new thread with some registry hacks next week.
At this moment I try to buy a Nokia HS-12W headset, I hope it is compatible with the HTC P3600.
Just curious, how did you add the US/WWE keyboard?
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Just curious, how did you add the US/WWE keyboard?
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I extracted a HTC Wizard (WWE) rom to my PC.
I copied the following files to my device:
msim.96.dll
msim.dll
After placing the files you need to add the next registry key:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}]
"ShiftLock"=dword:00000000
"KBMode"=dword:00000000
@="Keyboard"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\InprocServer32]
@="msim.dll"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
@="1"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\DefaultIcon]
@="msim.dll,0"
There is only a problem with setting it as default input methode.
It gave me a white screen after a soft-reset.
Next week I will try to post the files, if it is legal.
adewidt said:
Maybe I try to create a new thread with some registry hacks next week.
At this moment I try to buy a Nokia HS-12W headset, I hope it is compatible with the HTC P3600.
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Excellent idea... Would be nice to have a list of possible hacks, allthough some are to be found in the hermes wiki...
A review of the Dopod D810 : http://www.kaitech.hk/content/view/264/56/ a video review of the black P3600 : http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065177
adewidt said:
I extracted a HTC Wizard (WWE) rom to my PC.
I copied the following files to my device:
msim.96.dll
msim.dll
After placing the files you need to add the next registry key:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}]
"ShiftLock"=dword:00000000
"KBMode"=dword:00000000
@="Keyboard"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\InprocServer32]
@="msim.dll"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
@="1"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\DefaultIcon]
@="msim.dll,0"
There is only a problem with setting it as default input methode.
It gave me a white screen after a soft-reset.
Next week I will try to post the files, if it is legal.
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Looking forward to it, since I don't have a Hermes. Do have a keyboard skin for a Himalaya (WM5) though. Would that work?
So indeed the UK model is available in the Netherlands, just got mine.
My first impressions:
- The device actually feels smaller than I thought, feels only slightly heavier than my Diamond and much lighter than my Pro.
- The screen sensitivity for my finger is great, however it seems that I have to press harder with the stylus than on my Diamond.
- I cannot prevent touchflo 3D from installing, softresetting before customisation brings the device back in setup mode.
- The screen and the size of the buttons are great for finger usage.
- The device is faster than my Diamond and Pro, Touchflo 3D is really improved in terms of speed, however there is a lag when using the file explorer I didn't had on my previous devices.
- I really like the small led in the power button, indicating charching, bluetooth, etc. No more irritating charching lights from the action button when the device is next to my bed.
- All software I installed on my Diamond works on my HD (Spb products, Mobipocket, Pocketbreeze.)
- Did not test the GPS
- There is a soft bag for protection of the HD. The good is that it doesn't make the device much thicker. The bad is that it will not provide much protection (but it is included!!)
- The device comes with a 8GB microSD card (Sandisk.)
- The HD can be used in the HTC cradle, but without the special inlays, so a bit risky for the connector.
- No video-out (not in settings.)
- The full QWERTY on screen keyboard is better than on my Diamond, but still small and not as responsive to touch as I would want (I am used to my Iphone ;-))
Overall I think it is one of the best devices I have had for the last two years (a bit early to tell, but... first impression)
Can you tell us how vga apps work? Do they get stretched to fill the screen or are there black bars on top and bottom. I am talking about apps with no WVGA support.
Thanks!
Great post! I'm really looking forward to finding out how people get along with the HD. It's number one on my list of devices to replace my Touch.
please oh please try to play a divx movie thats perhaps the only thing that will make me sell my diamond i was used to see movies on my x7500 diamond sucks on plaaying video
yeah please try coreplayer/tcpmp with divx/xvid movies tell us the results!!
also if possible try some H264 (mp4 AVC) encoded videos
try resolutions around 640x360!
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Can you tell us how vga apps work? Do they get stretched to fill the screen or are there black bars on top and bottom. I am talking about apps with no WVGA support.
Thanks!
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All apps I tried so far just scale to fill the screen.
It looks great!
The apps even look better than on my X7500!
After tweaking some performance settings and after installing 10 apps, this baby is fast!!!
Everything is almost instantanously, never seen this on a HTC device before (and I have had a lot ;-))
if you tell me it plays divx flawlessly ill put my diamond for sale right now hehehe
Any comments about audio quality through the 3.5mm plug. Also does the cradle have audio out (through usb of the device)?
mkMoSs said:
yeah please try coreplayer/tcpmp with divx/xvid movies tell us the results!!
also if possible try some H264 (mp4 AVC) encoded videos
try resolutions around 640x360!
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Well, tried a video, 656 x 272 pixels, see for your self, will try TomTom 7 now
Domitri said:
if you tell me it plays divx flawlessly ill put my diamond for sale right now hehehe
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Sell your Diamond ;-)))
Trying to upload a video.... not that easy :-((
Update: uploading zip files do not work from my computer, so you would have to believe me on my word....
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Any comments about audio quality through the 3.5mm plug. Also does the cradle have audio out (through usb of the device)?
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The audio quality through the headset is great, its roughly the same as the Diamond, good bass, etc.
No sound through USB though, so no music through the cradle.
Looks great in the cradle though ;-)
OK, good news,
TomTom navigator 7 is working perfectly.
Better, no GPS lag (inside, because it is raining terribly here).
And look at Mobile Shell
This really is HTC's best device in years!!!
How does the sound compare with your iphone?
That cradle is huge, does it come with the package?
You have really kept up with all the PPC since the black and white days! Do you keep all of them or have you sold and upgraded throught he decade?
exe said:
How does the sound compare with your iphone?
That cradle is huge, does it come with the package?
You have really kept up with all the PPC since the black and white days! Do you keep all of them or have you sold and upgraded throught he decade?
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To be honest, the sound of both the Diamond and HD is much better than the sound of my Iphone, the sound is....more alive, more bass, etc.
I really like my Iphone and used it together with my Diamond for more than 3 months, and last month I mentioned that I was only using my Iphone. It is so much easier to use and the screen is really great.
But beside the UI, I think the HD beats the Iphone in a lot of aspects.
You have to buy the cradle seperately, it is a bit huge, yes.
I think I am an addict..... I kept some, not all, I am not that rich ;-))
tomtom
I also received my touch hd today! a great device, the big screen is really lovely.
I can't seem to make tomtom 7 working though. Wich cab did you use? I get the error message that it is not compatible with my device.
Thanks
Johnkorver,
It is indeed a good news that there is no lag in GPS
HTC Touch Diamond + HTC X7500 + Iphone 16 GB White + HTC Touch HD
Your collection is awesome
It was to good to be true...
I found a bug; the rollout menu's (don't know how to call it) do not work on non standard programs.
I had this bug also on my Samsung i780 with a 320x320 pixel screen.
You can select the different items using the keyboard though.
Look at the screenshot to see what I mean; I selected the main window menu.
hi johnkorver , what about 3g reception and system speaker related to diamond ? thnx
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I also received my touch hd today! a great device, the big screen is really lovely.
I can't seem to make tomtom 7 working though. Wich cab did you use? I get the error message that it is not compatible with my device.
Thanks
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There is a special version, taken from the Diamond.
Use google and you willl find it ;-))
stesa said:
hi johnkorver , what about 3g reception and system speaker related to diamond ? thnx
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Finding out right now.
tried to put the Diamond battery in the HD.....
Dear all,
My Softbank X01HT need replace. I would like to buy a Touch pro or X1 or Touch HD. (Mainly is Touch Pro or X1. It is because it has a keyboard) My requirement is the mobile run smooth and sound louder. Any suggestion? Please advise. Thanks!
Wai Wai said:
Dear all,
My Softbank X01HT need replace. I would like to buy a Touch pro or X1 or Touch HD. (Mainly is Touch Pro or X1. It is because it has a keyboard) My requirement is the mobile run smooth and sound louder. Any suggestion? Please advise. Thanks!
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There are a lot of tests, comparisons and videos to exactly this decision all over the web. It's being discussed here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430501
I had to decide between these both too, because I wanted a WinMo device with a hardware keyboard. I then chose the Xperia for these reasons:
- better display with higher resolution
- longer battery lifetime
- 3,5" headphone jack
And I definitely don't regret the decision. The Xperia is simply the best pocketpcphonemusicplayer I ever had.
if you have a doubt... I strongly recommend you go get the Touch Pro....
only because I have a X1 and I want to be the only guy with the cool toy when everyone get their phone out in the bar
I was with the same doubt days ago.
I've chosen the X1 for various reasons, althrough the touch pro is cheaper:
- screen
- lighter
- better looking
- screen (again)
- curved slider (works nicely)
- slimer
- battery
- panels (through I don't really use them, they are like "beta" right now, for me, has more potential than TouchFlo. Also, I hate TouchFlo, don't like at all that interface)
Anyways, in the end, it's a matter of tastes, take a look at the two, compare keyboards (touch pro got a bunch of extra keys) and get the one you like more.
If you have the chance: try each of them out. Even a little typing test at a store gets you far -> if you're looking for a hw keyboard device testing each of them tells you alot. My preference is with the better keyboard of the TP and now that I have them both I tend to choose TP for main use and X1 for the weekends.
Many have experienced the X1 as the better performer sound-wise and I have also the feeling that X1 is smoother to use (drawback to me here is the limited use of each panel -> touchflo gives me more in one interface. The panels really taka a couple of secs to change between).
..btw: searching this forum gets you a ton of threads also such similar phones have been compared 'ad nauseam'..
As an owner of both the Xperia is much better for me...
xperia. better than that chubby feeling weird thing they call the touch pro
Lol, just stumbled on this thread, and boy are a lot of you full of yourselves with the X1.
Xperia surely gets me more attention than the iphone which is so common now.
also, people love it when i pull out the keyboard..they almost give out that 'wow' look.
x1 here 2
seeing as you are posting on the x1 section of the forum would be logical ;p
same reasons as the others it seems
some extra
i played with a iphone, pro, hd and x1 before deciding (phones of colleages)
the x1 is more responsive,
feels stronger,
touch screen seems more sensitive and lies a bit deeper in the phone
-->so less im lying on the table/in protector activating myself but more hard to remove dust at the edge of the screen (do get a decent protector as there is none included)
My wife has a pro (that i have to maintain (software ...)) i dont like the flow interface, looks good but isn't functional. that said i only use the Spb panel on the x1. (as main, do use the players ...)
i like that interface. panels could grow in the future.
...
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
Wai Wai said:
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
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Saw the Touch Pro and I prefer the X1. Larger screen, feels less bulky, less cramped keyboard.
UI you can fix - just get the TF3D menu software or go for SPB Mobile Shell
Ringtone - what's the issue? It does mp3's just fine. Only annoyance is for alarm tones u need to convert to WAV 1st (no MIDI allowed), but hardly a major problem.
GPS works fine - I have Tomtom running on it, and it's as good as the not-so-cheapo Mio Digiwalker I picked up two years ago
Wai Wai said:
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
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What about the UI?
The panels are great. With the SE-Panel you have everything you need in one panel -calender, messaging, weather, shortcuts aso...
You don't need to change pages like with the touchflothing. TouchFlo is one of the reasons for me not to buy a HTC phone.
I now have the SE Desktop Panel with everything I need, additionally a fullscreen weather panel if I want to know more about forecast, windspeeds and whatelse, one panel for everything that's multimedia and one panel is for the navigation software TomTom which works great with with the internal GPS.
Hm, I don't know what your issue with the ringtones is, but I haven't got a problem with them except that the speaker isn't the best so the doublebassdrum and electric guitars don't blow you away
Haha...Another problem occurs ....X1 or HD??(Haha...don't hit me...)
Hi everyone...
I've been playing around with OpenGL ES, struggling to get it to compile, and eventually succeeding to discover that some of the parameters I set wouldn't work on the Diamond.
I've fixed all of the issues that I know of and now I want to see what devices a little test application will work on.
Hopefully, it should work on all the MSM720X based devices, and anything else that supports OpenGL|ES, that support can either be hardware or software acceleration, so those of you without the more recent devices can give it a shot and see what happens.
You should be presented with a triangle, that you can reorientate with mouse click and drags...
If people could test it out and see what happens, I'd be very happy
It may even lead somewhere!
Tested and verified on:
HTC Touch Diamond
HTC Touch Diamond2
Xperia X1 (sortof...)
HTC Touch HD
HTC Touch Pro
it works perfectly on my HD !
hanackin said:
it works perfectly on my HD !
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Excellent.
Are the framerates good? (I know there's no display of framerates, but does it feel smooth?)
XDA Diamond Pro
I've tested it on my german O2 XDA Diamond Pro and it works very well and feels very smooth - even with chainfires gfxboost being disabled...
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Excellent.
Are the framerates good? (I know there's no display of framerates, but does it feel smooth?)
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it looks really awesome dude ! it is really fast and the display is smooth
Fast and smooth for me
Did you do it in C++ or Managed Code?
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Fast and smooth for me
Did you do it in C++ or Managed Code?
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C++. Which is why I had trouble setting it up. Koush's managed API is easier to set up, but slower to run...
Attached is a new version that utilises a wrapper for some OpenGL ES functions, and l3v5yExtendedFunctions for some window creation etc...
It should have comparable frame rates, memory usage etc.
It also utilises the accelerometer of HTC devices, tap the center button (or anything that sends VK_RETURN) do toggle it.
You need to copy both dlls and the exe to your device, then run the exe.
Fast and smooth on my diamond here
and the new version is flickering a bit by fast moves
I don't know, if this has supposed to work on Iolite (different chipset), so i tried it . App even didn't start. It shows usual error with "either it is not signed..."
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I don't know, if this has supposed to work on Iolite (different chipset), so i tried it . App even didn't start. It shows usual error with "either it is not signed..."
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That probably means your device doesn't have a libGLES_cm.dll file. Which means that by default there's no OpenGL ES support.
Something that may be of interest to people here...
This is a game built off the framework created earlier... Should work on the same devices
Tested all apps on HTC Jade and all run smoothly..
Tested on x1 Test1 in post1 works but freezes for a second here and there.
test2 run but displays hello! and then closes.
and in the coin thread i reported it worked flawlessly on my x1
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Tested on x1 Test1 in post1 works but freezes for a second here and there.
test2 run but displays hello! and then closes.
and in the coin thread i reported it worked flawlessly on my x1
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Kinda odd...
But since the coin works, it may be because of the version of the dlls... No idea why... I'll have a look though!
works ok with topaz
shamus said:
works ok with topaz
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Awesome...
I'll add that to the first post.
ok, just gave it a go. You can edit Your first post - works on xperia. perfect.
umm... sorry. test 2 doesn't work. as above - just brief hello and exits.
Absolutely amazing work!
This is great. I tried the two tests and your coin app on a htc td - they were all perfectly smooth...
Do you think it's possible to add support for 3ds max model files? That would be completely fantastic!
Thank you for your work, I really appreciate it. Now I can show my iPhone friends that my device isn't just a lagging piece of crap..
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ok, just gave it a go. You can edit Your first post - works on xperia. perfect.
umm... sorry. test 2 doesn't work. as above - just brief hello and exits.
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It'll be because of the lack of accelerometer... My code didn't contain that much error checking... :S
About a month ago I upgraded from my old trusty and excellent HTC HD to the new HD2.
After a few tweaks, haks and fixes and some downloads, I was extremely happy of my HD , in fact the only real improvement in the HD2 to me seems to be the much faster CPU (which of course is not a little thing)
However there are a couple of major gripes (or just lack of aternative options) on the HD2 that I find particularly unnerving, prominent among which is the excruciatingly bad Kboard.
It's even worse than the one I've got on my HTC Hero which has a far smaller screen.
On the HD I had installed "FingrKboard" which I found simply excellent; is'nt there something similar that would work on the HD2?
Or maybe do you think that the same .cab file that worked on the HD's wm 6.1 will also work on the HD2 wm 6.5?
Second major problem with the HD2 is that I still have'nt been able to find a (good and possibly free) registry editor for it.
I have read about some very interested tweaks for the HD2 in the threads of the forum, but they all require the use of a registry editor, which one would you suggest?
And again: would I be able to install and use one of those I had on the wm 6.1 of my old HD(1) ?
And last (and probably least too): would "Gyrator" ,be installable and working on the HD2 as it did on the HD1?
No eh?
And do you know of another app that would make the screen turn from portrait to landscape with all apps?
Even if you could point to the solution to just one of my conflicts with the HD2 , you would have accomplished your Xmas good deed by making very happy a poor afflicted geek.
This is the way you might earn your place in heaven, you know ?
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About a month ago I upgraded from my old trusty and excellent HTC HD to the new HD2.
After a few tweaks, haks and fixes and some downloads, I was extremely happy of my HD , in fact the only real improvement in the HD2 to me seems to be the much faster CPU (which of course is not a little thing)
However there are a couple of major gripes (or just lack of aternative options) on the HD2 that I find particularly unnerving, prominent among which is the excruciatingly bad Kboard.
It's even worse than the one I've got on my HTC Hero which has a far smaller screen.
On the HD I had installed "FingrKboard" which I found simply excellent; is'nt there something similar that would work on the HD2?
Or maybe do you think that the same .cab file that worked on the HD's wm 6.1 will also work on the HD2 wm 6.5?
Second major problem with the HD2 is that I still have'nt been able to find a (good and possibly free) registry editor for it.
I have read about some very interested tweaks for the HD2 in the threads of the forum, but they all require the use of a registry editor, which one would you suggest?
And again: would I be able to install and use one of those I had on the wm 6.1 of my old HD(1) ?
And last (and probably least too): would "Gyrator" ,be installable and working on the HD2 as it did on the HD1?
No eh?
And do you know of another app that would make the screen turn from portrait to landscape with all apps?
Even if you could point to the solution to just one of my conflicts with the HD2 , you would have accomplished your Xmas good deed by making very happy a poor afflicted geek.
This is the way you might earn your place in heaven, you know ?
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FingerKeyboard worked on WM6.5 on the HD1 and works on the HD2. I found it to be superior to the standard HTC keyboard.
There is also a cab file that reduces the sensitivity of the screen on the HD2. This is supposed to make typing a bit easier although I have not personally tried it.
For registry editing, I use PHM RegEdit. It's a free program.
I use Resco Explorer and once you've downloaded that (for free), download the registry editor add-in (both cabs on the Resco site)
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I use Resco Explorer and once you've downloaded that (for free), download the registry editor add-in (both cabs on the Resco site)
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Resco Explorer will eventuall need a key to fully register the program. I do however second Resco if you can buy it.
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Resco Explorer will eventuall need a key to fully register the program. I do however second Resco if you can buy it.
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The registry editor stays unlocked though. I actually never use the Explorer part but you're right, that gets locked after a few days so you need to purchase it (if you want to).
Try Swype as a keyboard. I found it on this site and haven't looked back! It has an amazing input method and is not as over-sensitive as the native HTC keyboard. Check it out....
http://www.swypeinc.com/
Plexus,
This thread will also help you...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
WB
I second PHM RegEdit.
Simple, easy to use and free.
Thanx fellas.
I had both PHM regedit and fingerkeyboard because I had downloaded and installed them on my old HD(1) and Samsung Omnia i900 ( of which I got rid long ago) , now I have installed them on the HD2 and they work great.
I wonder which other win 6.1 apps will work on the big screen and win 6.5 of the HD2.
Dutty (one of my heroes) for exemple had to modify Cyberon voice dialer to get it to work on the HD2 because as it was the standard version would'nt play together with the HD2., so not all HD apps would be usable on the HD2.
I wonder how Gyrator would behave in the new environment.
Oh, and thanks very much for the link too, very interesting and useful.
I hope I'll be soon able of being of some help too.
BSB tweaks for screen rotation mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
Thanx Carlos, I have already installed the awesome BB Tweaks and now I have also cheked the "show standard windows setting" box, but I still can't find the menu you uploaded with the screen turning option.
Where is it hidden?
Is there any particular option I should enable?
I have enabled nearly all of them anyway but hat option still eludes me.
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Try Swype as a keyboard. I found it on this site and haven't looked back! It has an amazing input method and is not as over-sensitive as the native HTC keyboard. Check it out....
http://www.swypeinc.com/
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where can I get this from as the link doesn't give any option to get it ?
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Thanx Carlos, I have already installed the awesome BB Tweaks and now I have also cheked the "show standard windows setting" box, but I still can't find the menu you uploaded with the screen turning option.
Where is it hidden?
Is there any particular option I should enable?
I have enabled nearly all of them anyway but hat option still eludes me.
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Run BsB Tweaks and open the menu - Rotation is in there.
Hi there..
Dont mean to flame or anything like that.
But the title of the thread suggests that you arnt happy with the device.
So we start reading your post.
But its all just software features you lack or want to change.
And that does not really imply the hardware exclusive to the HD2.
@ Johncmolineaux
Thank you mate, I looked for it for 2 days, maybe I should wear my glasses more often.
@ Enonoid
I'm sorry if from my title you or anybody else got the impression that I was'nt happy with the HD2: I bloody love it man!
I just wished to find a few apps, progs and tweaks to which I got used with my old HD1 (which I loved too).
I also have an HTC Hero and a Nokia N97 ,which after Nokia changed camera lens, camera cover, GPS chip & software, installed ROM 2.0, optimized memory, and gave me for free one year subscription to the latest OVI maps for Europe, has become a great phone too; but the HD2 is my fav hands down, even though as an OS per se I like Andrid more than WM 6.5 (mainly because of the marketplace and the awsome free apps available).
One must be a brainwashed Apple fanboy not to like like the HD2.
Gyrator works fine on the HD2
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Try Swype as a keyboard. I found it on this site and haven't looked back! It has an amazing input method and is not as over-sensitive as the native HTC keyboard. Check it out....
http://www.swypeinc.com/
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where can I get this from as the link doesn't give any option to get it ?
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+1. No download link. Is it actually available for use on another phone but the Omnia II?
found it its here and its brilliant http://www.4shared.com/file/168683514/da3fc332/Swype.html
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Try Swype as a keyboard. I found it on this site and haven't looked back! It has an amazing input method and is not as over-sensitive as the native HTC keyboard. Check it out....
http://www.swypeinc.com/
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Swype is the next generation keyboard, amazing. I am running it on the HTC Touch HD, although it will run much better on a capacitive screen, more sensetive the screen the better it will work.
Yes, Swipe rocks,but after BB tweaks adjusted the screen sensitivity of the standard kwerty, and the FingerKboard, they have become absolutely excellent too.
The only problem is that I can't put any of those in ladscape position.
I have tried to reinstall Gyrator but it does not seem to work on the HD2 it seems made for devices with styluses and resistive screens.
Did anyone find a way to type messages, notes, etc. in landscape?