Same story from M7 continues with M8. Taking pictures in low light has red/blue/purple noise/tint.
Here is video sample:
HTC ONE M8 Camera Issue- Pink/Red Tint like M7: http://youtu.be/b2sdyGi7-NA
Here's screenshot:
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You can clearly see on video and picture heat shielding starts degrading, thus parts of the heat transfers to sensor.
Mine M8 produced in May 2014, serial number HT45.
Sensor is Omnivision OV4688 4M.
You can check sensor via file manager, no root is required.
For example, in Solid explorer:
Choose System Root - Sys - android_camera - sensor - open as - Text file - SE TextEditor.
Please report if you anyone has such issue.
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You got to be kidding me... The purple tint plagued my M7
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I thought I wake up from UltraPurple nightmare of m7 but OMG!
and thats why people..never buy htc phones
I do not have this Problem.
So, idk why people should not buy HTC phones.
As if any other Phone is perfectly without any known issues
And no, having a definately Defect unit/device does NOT count as comparison or example.
Use your warranty, and let it repair / get exchanged for another device --> problem solved.
No magic unicorn will appear and fix it. Your camera sensor is defect, nothing more, nothing less. Thats what warranty is for.
Don't have this issue here and my phone gets HOT. This is also why we have warranties and insurance. Non htc phones break when dropped, run like crap, or have other issues like built like a mcdonalds toy.
This thread is a non issue in my book.
No issue here. If the M8 would have the same issue as the M7 did we would have heard of it by now from many more users. You just have bad luck I guess and got a bad unit.
It only happens when it's using an ISO of 3200.
When I set the ISO manually, even at 1600 there is no trace if it.
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This is a "issue" with GAIN. If you take ANY sensor and maximise the gain (ISO) you will get more noise and these artefacts.
Even my DSL has the same problem with 12800 iso and total black. There will be dots and stuff all over the image. Especially with noise reduction on low or even dissabled.
ISO is just a mather of removing more or less noise from the sensory data. Consider it a radio, maximising the volume will make it hum and other things, stuff that you wont notice with sensible volume/gain. Nothing is free of noise and camera sensors are analog and take in noise and IR-radiation esp if the phone is warm. You can prevent this noise appearing but then you get worse performance in Low SNR (signal-to-noise ratio) situation - like dark images.
HtcOneJon said:
Don't have this issue here and my phone gets HOT. This is also why we have warranties and insurance. Non htc phones break when dropped, run like crap, or have other issues like built like a mcdonalds toy.
This thread is a non issue in my book.
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Hahaha best forum post in a while!
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Not as bad as m7. I see a little in very specific low light shots.
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I have no problem
jmkhenka said:
This is a "issue" with GAIN. If you take ANY sensor and maximise the gain (ISO) you will get more noise and these artefacts.
Even my DSL has the same problem with 12800 iso and total black. There will be dots and stuff all over the image. Especially with noise reduction on low or even dissabled.
ISO is just a mather of removing more or less noise from the sensory data. Consider it a radio, maximising the volume will make it hum and other things, stuff that you wont notice with sensible volume/gain. Nothing is free of noise and camera sensors are analog and take in noise and IR-radiation esp if the phone is warm. You can prevent this noise appearing but then you get worse performance in Low SNR (signal-to-noise ratio) situation - like dark images.
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What he said
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So is this an issue or not? :/
Last time i got my m7 replaced (about 3-4 months ago) this issue was fixed, so this problem would be gone with m8?
So anyone else having this issue? I was really interested in buying this phone.
no
This blue hue is in Galaxy S5 in very low light. Smartphone cameras have a limit. M7 had a genuine problem. M8 doesn't. Let's just STOP making up an issue when it isn't.
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Mine's ov4688 4m too (March 2014) got from Rogers(Canada) but doesn't have any issues at all...you should probably return yours mate and ask for another one
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I shot plenty and post before night or low light photo. No such issue as you mention.
Thank you so much guys for clearing things out. I am going for the M8.
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Replacement Epic... second screen protector used... and now this?
Please tell me it isn't a bad camera.
This is a white keyboard, yet the center area of the image appears very pink.
This is easiest to see in low light on something white.
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Epic Experience, MixUp
EDIT it looks just like this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/a_hardware_fault_causes_htc_hd2_*pink*_camera_issues_confirmed-news-1276.php
which was(/is?) a software issue on the HD2. So is it my ROM/kernel?
...and here http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...-one-camera-issue-cloudy-red-blur-middle.html
Here's the Nexus in an OFFICIAL VIDEO and you can see it from about :10 to :18.
All phones? Are you serious? http://pocketnow.com/thought/clarification-the-pink-spot-syndrome
I've actually found a lot of topics on this, some say it is a software issue, and some say it is hardware... I just wonder if everyone has it, or if I've only started my adventure of returning phones until I get one that actually WORKS. If they are all like this, I'd be disappointed, but not nearly as disappointed as if I have to "roll the dice" again and wait another 3 days and buy another Zagg screen protector.
Changing the white balance to anything but Auto seems to fix this.
Nope. My camera seems to work fine. Took multiple pictures of a white envelope and no color variation at all. Might be your camera or even the lighting conditions of that particular shot that threw it off.
What kind of lighting? It only seems to appear in dim/indoor setting.
Here are three more... all are on Auto white balance, even though the colors seem to change a lot with the light:
Some sunlight (door open, keyboard on floor) - No pink
Indoors + Flash (same place, door shut) - No pink
Indoors (same conditions, no flash) - PINK!
It isn't incapable of showing a pure white, the conditions just have to be ideal.
i like das keyboard.
rockin no letters huh?
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i like das keyboard.
rockin no letters huh?
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I feel like his keyboard is naked and needs to be covered up lol
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austin420 said:
i like das keyboard.
rockin no letters huh?
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It's actually the Happy Hacking Pro 2.
The Nexus among many other phone had the 'pink dot' effect.
I noticed this was most common if you have Auto-White on, and quickly open the camera and snap a picture.
The red dot would come up at first when the camera was opened, but once the camera focuses, the pink dot disappears.
Its mainly has to do with the focusing of the lenses I think....
from a epic Galaxy far, far away.
...so does anyone else see this on the Epic? The one site seems to think it's a phenomenon in all cheap digital cameras.
Samsung Galaxy S2 Red Spot Camera
Hi guys,
Any solution yet? I changed my SGS2 and the problem is still there.
Try to change the white balance if on auto go indoor and use outdoor lighting to get more light.
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Try to change the white balance if on auto go indoor and use outdoor lighting to get more light.
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Thanks dito33. Changing the white balance makes photo color looks not so natural (in my point of view). I know lighting will help, but not in indoor low-light environment. I just want my SGS2 to be my first perfect android phone. BTW, i am a bit disappointed with the Pink Spot issue on SGS2 which cost me over 500 pound, not 50 pound.
Still thinking whether looking into exchange my phone to other brand/model or just keep it.
I went looking through all my photos, and can't find that pink tint in any of them. The one thing on this camera that I find annoying is when shooting video, everything will get a green-ish hue to it for a minute, and then for no reason go back to normal.
Green:
Normal
Ah! This is software related.
We need to tell Samsung John about this.
Remember the HTC Leo pink spots in it's pictures? A software update fixed it.
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Ah! This is software related.
We need to tell Samsung John about this.
Remember the HTC Leo pink spots in it's pictures? A software update fixed it.
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This has been an issue since I got the phone
Also, before I make a video, I let the camera go for 20 seconds, then it'll say "recording failed", let it go for another minute or so to see if it fails again. If it doesn't, I'll then go ahead and make a video. This happens on queue every time.
A friend of mine has this exact issue on his fascinate since day one.
he's rooted, but has not tried custom roms yet.
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Ah! This is software related.
We need to tell Samsung John about this.
Remember the HTC Leo pink spots in it's pictures? A software update fixed it.
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LOL, Samsung John? [email protected]? Bet he likes your emails
i was waiting at the vet and decided to snap a picture of my dog
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both the still and viewfinder display show these lines
(a reset to factory settings via the camera app restores it to normal)
is this something anyone else has experienced?
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it's just 1 of many screen names of someone who is upset about something the Mods have done.
does the camera only have the issue with stock app or does it do it with 3rd party apps like Camera 360?
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Yea i'd have to agree download a second Camera Application to see if it happens on a secondary program. That will isolate the difference between a bad camera or bad programing.
you know i didnt look and see if camera360 was doing it
my suspicions lie in the camera app getting wonky (see: using multiple programs and getting a bad driver warning...please restart)
it happens
ill check another app besides stock when it happens again
thanks guys
This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
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This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
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Bingo, this is the answer.
tintingkc said:
This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
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nailed it
the 2x it has happened has been in similar lighting situations
This happens to me with my Epic when I set it to lock at 800 ISO
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This happens to me with my Epic when I set it to lock at 800 ISO
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At that point your bringing a lot of noise(grain) in so the issue is amplified.
Many think mega pixels make a good camera. This can be no further from the truth. The sensor and processing is what really makes the difference provided there are good optics(lens). Something you will not see on a phone. Nokia is still the only one that has done well here.
You are going to get noise and banding with cell phone pics unless the lighting is optimal. Its a give and take that has to be dealt with. Phones have terrible lenses and cheap sensors. The two key functions to a quality photo. The only reason they look as good as they do is processing done in the built in software.
The cameras on the phones these days are doing well but will never replace your point and shoot or DSLR.
tintingkc said:
At that point your bringing a lot of noise(grain) in so the issue is amplified.
Many think mega pixels make a good camera. This can be no further from the truth. The sensor and processing is what really makes the difference provided there are good optics(lens). Something you will not see on a phone. Nokia is still the only one that has done well here.
You are going to get noise and banding with cell phone pics unless the lighting is optimal. Its a give and take that has to be dealt with. Phones have terrible lenses and cheap sensors. The two key functions to a quality photo. The only reason they look as good as they do is processing done in the built in software.
The cameras on the phones these days are doing well but will never replace your point and shoot or DSLR.
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Yeah nokia has some amazing cameras on their phones think of if nokia made a android... that would be amazing xD i love their build quality and phones just.. symbian ew
tell me about it
http://thehandheldblog.com/2010/10/04/shootout-nokia-n8-v-canon-550d-dslr/
Good Morning from Germany,
Sony have officialy answered on this Problem here you can read that :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
Now i decided to write an Email to XPERIABLOG.NET that they should something about the Cameraproblem or an image comparison between
HTC One, Galaxy S4 and Xperia Z
Here is the Email :
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and here you can read the article about this Comparison :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/18/camera-shootout-xperia-z-goes-up-against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/
It's good that this gets more attention, but I don't hope that Sony will only look at this problem as a compression problem, because there is a lot more wrong here.
Sorry but I've had a good test of the Sony camera compared to HTC one and galaxy s3 and the xperia camera edges it barring the odd bit of over compression but I'll take it for less noise and better colour reproduction than both those phones
I believe the z has bigger fish to fry like unforgivable viewing angles, awful speaker quality, lag and ui skipping issues, over heating and odd and inconsistent battery life.
I loved this phone on face value but the more I use it the more I pick it apart
The camera is by far it's best attribute and is better than its competitors right now even if the photos are a little soft.
biffsmash said:
I believe the z has bigger fish to fry like unforgivable viewing angles, awful speaker quality, lag and ui skipping issues, over heating and odd and inconsistent battery life.
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Viewing angles: You want to look at the phone from a 45 degree angle? For what reason? Or do you love that other people can read your text's?
Aweful speaker quality: Ok lets put a better speaker in, but remove the whole concept of the phone being water proof/resistant
Lag: Yeah lag..... where!?
ui skipping issues: ??? Examples please.
Over heating: Name 1 phone that doesn't overheat, isn't it logical that the processor becomes hot when it need to process something big?? Since our phone's are made out of glass we will notice it even more, since glass is a good heat conductor (You could/should've known that before you bought the phone)
Inconsistent battery life : Partly true, it also has to do with the apps that you run, so you can't really blame Sony for that.
ANYWAYS.....this topic is about the camera so lets leave other issues aside.
What's all this about the camera, the Zs camera is easily the best I've ever seen. Stop using reviews as a basis for a petition. Many of these sites have their own agenda. I've repeatedly heard them say the Zs camera is worse than that of the iPhone. Well they could have fooled me. That claim doesn't stand up at all. It's biased stupidity.
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What's all this about the camera, the Zs camera is easily the best I've ever seen. Stop using reviews as a basis for a petition. Many of these sites have their own agenda. I've repeatedly heard them say the Zs camera is worse than that of the iPhone. Well they could have fooled me. That claim doesn't stand up at all. It's biased stupidity.
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I don't know about other people, but I've got my own pictures as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38823948&postcount=39
Not mine, but you can clearly see that there is too much noise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38847402&postcount=41
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38858346&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39024438&postcount=76
Dsteppa said:
I don't know about other people, but I've got my own pictures as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38823948&postcount=39
Not mine, but you can clearly see that there is too much noise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38847402&postcount=41
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38858346&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39024438&postcount=76
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One of those guys said:
Amazing low light shots..not possible with my previous phones to look so clear (S3 and iphone5).
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You should not expect the same quality pic in a macro shot than in a night shot. With other phone, in those conditions, you would get a nice black photo. In Xperia Z you get a noisy pic, but at least it's not black.
I have to agree with the issue here. Before I even looked at the Xperia subforum, after coming from an S3, I knew straight away that I couldn't take a half decent picture and after 30 or 40 shots didn't get a single image I could use.
I could get a perfect picture on my S3, default settings almost every time, and if not, certainly the second time.
Nobody can say that's placebo caused by popular belief because I never even saw the complaints until I had decided for myself the picture quality was apalling.
the camera app itself is a big problem because it was ported from x1,x2 (windows phones) and tweaked a bit. guys who have/had x1 or x2 know what im talking about
when sony finally makes new or updates camera app some problems might go away
Some camera problems are dued to picture softness. Camera360 automatically "improves" the quality with a focus filter, you should test it.
I haven't read it yet... http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z1-Review_id3427
The photos looks miles better than the photos GsmArena took. It's pretty obvious different Review units has different hw/sf tweaks in them
Sadly, the battery wasn't reviewed. Also, I would have liked to have seen some commentary on the phone's relatively low headphone's output power. I do enjoy my music and I'm concerned this won't be loud enough with my earphones plugged in. I'll definitely be checking out a device before I even seriously consider buying a Z1, but does anyone have any input on this matter?
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Sadly, the battery wasn't reviewed. Also, I would have liked to have seen some commentary on the phone's relatively low headphone's output power. I do enjoy my music and I'm concerned this won't be loud enough with my earphones plugged in. I'll definitely be checking out a device before I even seriously consider buying a Z1, but does anyone have any input on this matter?
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The review just said power output. I mean, if it doesn't sound loud, just crank up the volume. I think the power thing relates to bass or treble. There's an option to increase those settings though.
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The review just said power output. I mean, if it doesn't sound loud, just crank up the volume. I think the power thing relates to bass or treble. There's an option to increase those settings though.
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Sorry, I guess I'm showing my ignorance? But I do know of at least one member here who is experiencing a lack of loudness, and I don't think it's the first time I've read that about the Z1
Surprised
Well, I'm a little agog,.... A good review of a Sony-made mobile phone from Phone Arena. Will wonders never cease?
Well, my handset has dropped by (review up shortly) and I have to say: pleasantly surprised by the camera - yes, the processing could be better in low light but the clarity in daylight, even on a dim and grey Yorkshire day, is actually pretty good. I'm thinking that has summat to do with the software update that I received within moments of booting it up.
ONE FLY IN THE OINTMENT,.... and it's big fella,.....
Sadly, much like GSM Arena, my camera lens appears to have an aberration - a fuzzy area to the left of centre where the focus is out. I don't have time to send it back for replacement before going way on a trip this week but it'll be heading back to O2 and onward to Sony as soon as I get back.
Dear Sony: Quality control,... you might want to look it up.
Timaustin2000 said:
Well, I'm a little agog,.... A good review of a Sony-made mobile phone from Phone Arena. Will wonders never cease?
Well, my handset has dropped by (review up shortly) and I have to say: pleasantly surprised by the camera - yes, the processing could be better in low light but the clarity in daylight, even on a dim and grey Yorkshire day, is actually pretty good. I'm thinking that has summat to do with the software update that I received within moments of booting it up.
ONE FLY IN THE OINTMENT,.... and it's big fella,.....
Sadly, much like GSM Arena, my camera lens appears to have an aberration - a fuzzy area to the left of centre where the focus is out. I don't have time to send it back for replacement before going way on a trip this week but it'll be heading back to O2 and onward to Sony as soon as I get back.
Dear Sony: Quality control,... you might want to look it up.
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GSMarena uses a preproduction unit, not the actual retail unit. Look at their unboxing - doesn't have headsets.
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True GSMARENA has pre production unit they have mentioned it in review itself, so this is the true potential of the phone. Absolutely flies, great work Sony!!
pictures look about the same, here's a 1:1 view of their Strong-Light indoor shot.
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as you can see it's still full of grain/over processing. no doubt that pictures look great when not viewed 1:1. What this translates to for the regular user is that some digital zoom/cropping of the 20mp image won't look so great. but when has it ever except on the 1020?
i just expected more from them...
Screen seems good enough now, major problem is bezel and SIZE of device.
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Honestly those two are personal preference, I have small hands and I don't mind it. A lot of devices have big bezels and it doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.
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My Z2 has a very visible digitizer pattern on screen not only when seen under the sun but also indoors with direct sources of light. Among a few other faults this was one of the things I would have expected Z3 to fix but this is not the case. While surfing Z3 pictures found a pattern similar to the Z2's.
EDIT: Also wanted to add that my HTC M8 has no such problem there seems to be no digitizer patterns on the screen under any source of light.
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My Nexus 5 was no worse than this, granted that phone was "cheaper" but still..
Only people with OCD consider this a problem... Keep shining that light, I see you I see you
Why that bothers you?
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Only people with OCD consider this a problem... Keep shining that light, I see you I see you
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Why that bothers you?
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For my Z2 this happens to be a problem, when text is being overlapped by these patterns it creates a sort of aliasing effect granted this only happens with white background and black text but still.
I used many phones, and belive me. I have high demand and standards. And dosent bother me at all.
I saw that on my Xperia arc, arc s, Xperia S, Xperia z and now on z1.
No single aliasing made by that digitizer.
You have defected phone, or you have really sensitive eyes.
Trust me the only way the OP sees this is by flashing a flashlight right on it.. i've head a lot of people talk about this but no one's actually affected by it
Yes.. you can see only with direct flashlight on it, or direct sunlight but you must go with that in mind to see it.
Regular use will not see that.
it's no difference than AMOLED pentile displays like the ones found on many of the samsung galaxy phones. almost any display you will always see things if you shine bright light on it while the display is off. of course this is not really a problem because people don't tend to stare at their phones while the screen is off.
While I agree it's not that big of a deal, I was surprised to see it. First phone in a long time that had it this noticeable.
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While I agree it's not that big of a deal, I was surprised to see it. First phone in a long time that had it this noticeable.
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The reason why the digitizer could be seen is because of the no-gap display that they have made between the screen and the digitizer, allowing higher sensitivity on the screen itself (which is helpful for some people), and also reducing reflection/refraction from light source.
simahu said:
The reason why the digitizer could be seen is because of the no-gap display that they have made between the screen and the digitizer, allowing higher sensitivity on the screen itself (which is helpful for some people), and also reducing reflection/refraction from light source.
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If thats they case they are doing a terrible job, the screen is very reflective.
It is supposed to reduce reflection during usage of the phone when it is turned on. Most glass panels are reflective when there's no surface lighting on it.
Not sure of they are doing a good job with that
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I've just heard the digitizer is quite prominent on the Z3. A Google search has lead me here.
Strangley, in the past I had a noticeable digitizer in sunlight on a replacement Nexus 4. It's the only phone that has had it, so it was obviously a mistake in the manufacturing somehow as I've replaced screens and had replacement Nexus 4's and 5's. It did annoy me. Yes, most of the time you wouldn't see it, but in the summer, you'll often see it and detracts from what you're looking at on the screen. Looking at a screen in sunlight is already pretty crap in that you can't see it very well. But then to have an electronic grid staring back at you is even more annoying.
This has unfortunately put me off a Z3 and it's another excuse for me to upgrade my N5 to an N6.
I also noticed this on my Nexus 5, and now I see it on the Z3 as well. It doesn't bother me when the screen is on though. Pixels look smooth for me. Perhaps you have your screen less than 50% brightness?
Really not an issue unless you plan on shining a torch on your phone screen...seriously do we worry about something which is small?
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I did not notice it, I guess you have to be actively looking for it.
Its not a big deal at all. Screen functions very well inspite of it
Adding my voice to the "It's not an issue" crowd. Seriously, the M8 also had the digitiser panel you could see if you looked under the right light.