My Z2 has a very visible digitizer pattern on screen not only when seen under the sun but also indoors with direct sources of light. Among a few other faults this was one of the things I would have expected Z3 to fix but this is not the case. While surfing Z3 pictures found a pattern similar to the Z2's.
EDIT: Also wanted to add that my HTC M8 has no such problem there seems to be no digitizer patterns on the screen under any source of light.
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My Nexus 5 was no worse than this, granted that phone was "cheaper" but still..
Only people with OCD consider this a problem... Keep shining that light, I see you I see you
Why that bothers you?
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Only people with OCD consider this a problem... Keep shining that light, I see you I see you
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Why that bothers you?
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For my Z2 this happens to be a problem, when text is being overlapped by these patterns it creates a sort of aliasing effect granted this only happens with white background and black text but still.
I used many phones, and belive me. I have high demand and standards. And dosent bother me at all.
I saw that on my Xperia arc, arc s, Xperia S, Xperia z and now on z1.
No single aliasing made by that digitizer.
You have defected phone, or you have really sensitive eyes.
Trust me the only way the OP sees this is by flashing a flashlight right on it.. i've head a lot of people talk about this but no one's actually affected by it
Yes.. you can see only with direct flashlight on it, or direct sunlight but you must go with that in mind to see it.
Regular use will not see that.
it's no difference than AMOLED pentile displays like the ones found on many of the samsung galaxy phones. almost any display you will always see things if you shine bright light on it while the display is off. of course this is not really a problem because people don't tend to stare at their phones while the screen is off.
While I agree it's not that big of a deal, I was surprised to see it. First phone in a long time that had it this noticeable.
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While I agree it's not that big of a deal, I was surprised to see it. First phone in a long time that had it this noticeable.
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The reason why the digitizer could be seen is because of the no-gap display that they have made between the screen and the digitizer, allowing higher sensitivity on the screen itself (which is helpful for some people), and also reducing reflection/refraction from light source.
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The reason why the digitizer could be seen is because of the no-gap display that they have made between the screen and the digitizer, allowing higher sensitivity on the screen itself (which is helpful for some people), and also reducing reflection/refraction from light source.
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If thats they case they are doing a terrible job, the screen is very reflective.
It is supposed to reduce reflection during usage of the phone when it is turned on. Most glass panels are reflective when there's no surface lighting on it.
Not sure of they are doing a good job with that
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I've just heard the digitizer is quite prominent on the Z3. A Google search has lead me here.
Strangley, in the past I had a noticeable digitizer in sunlight on a replacement Nexus 4. It's the only phone that has had it, so it was obviously a mistake in the manufacturing somehow as I've replaced screens and had replacement Nexus 4's and 5's. It did annoy me. Yes, most of the time you wouldn't see it, but in the summer, you'll often see it and detracts from what you're looking at on the screen. Looking at a screen in sunlight is already pretty crap in that you can't see it very well. But then to have an electronic grid staring back at you is even more annoying.
This has unfortunately put me off a Z3 and it's another excuse for me to upgrade my N5 to an N6.
I also noticed this on my Nexus 5, and now I see it on the Z3 as well. It doesn't bother me when the screen is on though. Pixels look smooth for me. Perhaps you have your screen less than 50% brightness?
Really not an issue unless you plan on shining a torch on your phone screen...seriously do we worry about something which is small?
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I did not notice it, I guess you have to be actively looking for it.
Its not a big deal at all. Screen functions very well inspite of it
Adding my voice to the "It's not an issue" crowd. Seriously, the M8 also had the digitiser panel you could see if you looked under the right light.
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DAMN IT!
Got some weird scratches/marks beneath the screen.
It's only visible in low light surroundings, and on a black background, but it's very very ugly.
When I made this thread a few similar posts came up.
Apparently it's a known problem on the S2 and note too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335423
I can't make a picture of it right now. Will try tomorrow.
Somebody made this to explain what it looks like.
Mine is like this, but much worse
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Please check for yourself in a dark room and a fully black background on the phone. Do you have the same?
I'm going return it tomorrow, and hope they give me a refund, so I can buy another one straight away (and check it off course). And hope I don't have to wait for 3 weeks for the repair/replacement
Is it there when the screen is off?
If not then it's not scratches. I think its an AMOLED thing. I notice it when my SGS2 freezes on a black screen. But not there when powered down or back up again.
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Yup, does not bother me too much though.
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Is it there when the screen is off?
If not then it's not scratches. I think its an AMOLED thing. I notice it when my SGS2 freezes on a black screen. But not there when powered down or back up again.
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Exactly. When i first saw my sgs1 under direct sunlight i thught that was broken. Later i discovered that the lines ias seeing was the circuitry under the screen. You can see iy under direct sunlight when the screen is off.
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Is it there when the screen is off?
If not then it's not scratches. I think its an AMOLED thing. I notice it when my SGS2 freezes on a black screen. But not there when powered down or back up again.
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I don't see any spots or ink marks on my GS2 at all. But seems like a lot of the GS3's are having these spots.
Some have exchanged their phones for those with a lot less of of those markings.
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Is it there when the screen is off?
If not then it's not scratches. I think its an AMOLED thing. I notice it when my SGS2 freezes on a black screen. But not there when powered down or back up again.
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It's only there when the screen is on, but it's actually visible in daylight now I know it's there.
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I read somewhere that this is a residual issue caused by the bonding glue they use t to attach the glass, they should fade as the glue dries, but keep any eye on it and nuke 'em if it doesn't!
Yeh galaxy nexus has a similar thing its the amoled display some of the pixals are not turning fully of, I think that was the conclusion .
But only noticeable in very dark room with the screen black and when your eyes adjust. Could be wrong without a pic I can't say.
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I think its an inherent flaw with AMOLED panels. It looks like patches of the screen do not go as dark as the rest of the screen.
Some screens are brighter than others in general though, among the same phone. This Nexus was brighter than another one I had at the same time, at both lowest and highest settings, and had less black dots on black screen, presumably because the screen was brighter overall.
Doesn't mean to say I won't check for the problem before I purchase though
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Well I exchanged it for a new one.
This one is flawless
I'm glad I bought it in a physical store now vs online!
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DAMN IT!
Got some weird scratches/marks beneath the screen.
It's only visible in low light surroundings, and on a black background, but it's very very ugly.
When I made this thread a few similar posts came up.
Apparently it's a known problem on the S2 and note too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335423
I can't make a picture of it right now. Will try tomorrow.
Somebody made this to explain what it looks like.
Mine is like this, but much worse
Please check for yourself in a dark room and a fully black background on the phone. Do you have the same?
I'm going return it tomorrow, and hope they give me a refund, so I can buy another one straight away (and check it off course). And hope I don't have to wait for 3 weeks for the repair/replacement
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Yep I have the exact same thing with my SIII but not as bad as yours. What did you do about your SIII? Did you return it? I notice it mostly on a black background whilst watching films/videos mine isn't really that noticeable on my SIII but still pretty annoying.
Can you guys with cameras that have manual control test something for me?
Following on from a post by someone else about weird blotches on an all black image displayed on the screen, I checked mine today in pitch darkness and noticed a faint 2 inch or so of blackness on one edge of the screen along with smaller blotches. It doesn't appear to be as visible as the other poster's though but I exaggerated in in the photo so it's easier to see and settings posted below for people to check as well.
This is only visible on an all black screen. This does not exist on any of the S2's I've owned. I'll check my dad's S3 tonight when I go see him in the same way but the way to photograph it to keep the results consistent are as follows:
Stick camera and phone in a cupboard and...
Phone screen brightness: 50%
Camera ISO: 200
Camera Shutter: 15 seconds
Camera Aperture: f/4.5
Remember to pre-focus and use the 10sec timer to avoid shake
Those settings will over exaggerate the effect as shown in my photo below but it makes it easier for everyone to see as you do have to focus your eyes in reality and it's not immediately obvious unless you're in pitch darkness and looking at an all black screen.
I don't know how I feel about this though but if it's visible using the above camera settings for lots of people then I'll leave it as is.
Again, it's only visible on an all black screen so make sure your image that you load is all black and not grey or something Make sure screen timeout is set to at least a minute to avoid the screen going off!
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Thanks!
I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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What free app? It's a black image with screen timeout extended. The rest is your camera settings to be able to fairly photograph the screen for everyone to compare, an app can't do that
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I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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Which free app? What exactly did you do in order to notice them?
Did you see these threads Robbie?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700350
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686633
I didn't see those nope! Thanks for the links. Seems strange though as the white S3 belonging to my dad has none of the blotches, neither does a pebble blue on another forum. My 2 S2 handsets had no issues either.
Oh well!
My first phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 20sec)
Second phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 30sec)
The guy at the store (**** Smith in Australia) was unable to reproduce the issue in-store, so swapped the phone out and said I'd have to go to samsung if I reported the same issue again. The 2nd phone still has the issue, but as you can see, nowhere near as bad... still... not very good is it.
My 2 year SGS1 had about 4 spots - never noticed any issue. The first SGS3 was definitely noticeable just scrolling through system menus at night.
That's rather bad^^ I've emailed mobiflefun with picture so let's see what they say.
Suggest you up your exposure (duration and/or ISO) to make it a bit more noticeable. Looks like you've got a fair amount of guff in the top-left corner.
:/ dodgy manufacturing.
I don't have an SGSIII yet, but I noticed pretty much this same thing on my Galaxy Note. One night I was viewing an image with an all black screen and it had these weird blotches on the screen. I had never noticed them before.
Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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I have it too. Looks like a crack from the inside out on the bottom left corner.
I can see it in Settings/led notification screen at the bottom at night with screen brightness low.
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
I saw around 10 to 15 blotches on my screen,not at all noticable in everyday use only when i looked very closely i saw them scattered around the middle.As its my first amoled phone,i want to know is it harmful for the screen?Shd i ask for replacement?Though i dont have any pink spots or tints watsoever.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
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My 4 GNexus did.
Wow this looks like a widespread issue. Samsung needs to know about this
I assume samsung knew even before shipping the units.
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This "issue" is known since the SGS1. Is the leakege from the AMOLED display. One thing to consider i only have a line about half a CM in the same place where you have the circle mark. Maybe a manufacture failure?
quicker way to test.
1 - dark room
2 set auto brightness off and screen to lowest brightness.
go to phone and dial *#0*#
click vibrate test which will display black screen.
and then check....
p.s been through this in other threads here but mky local telco had 26 with this issue went to another telco and got a blue one today - and no issue whatsoever...
Hey xda members,
just had a bit of spare time so I decided to make some photos of my GS2 while displaying a totally black screen.
Normally you can only see these "effects" when you're in a completely dark room while looking at the GS2 being the only light-emitting source through its display.
Note: The actual purpose of this thread is to educate those people who can't imagine what burn-in/ink marks look like in reality. That's it, just plain visual information.
So I hope this isn't an issue even if there may already be a similar thread
I made some of the photos with the roomlights turned off and others with a very dim light.
The photos were shot using a Nikon D3100 DSLR with long exposure/high aperture settings.
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As you can see in the first photo (below), even if the GS2's display shows a completely black image, which should result in a black display (OLED = pixel off) it shows weird marks and still emits a tiny amount of light.
In the second photo I have marked all the relevant weird spots (including screen burn-in caused by grey status bar [see below, marked by arrow])
The OLEDs in the burn-in area seemed to wear out faster because of the static grey shade it was displaying all the time thus resulting in this permanent color change in the affected area.
This burn-in was apparently caused by this theme which I was using for several months. As you can see, even the status bar in a dark grey shade can cause burn in.
A couple of more photos (with different white balance):
See below for photos in full resolution:
Hope this helps in any way and gives those people an impression who can't really imagine how screen burn-in can be caused and how these display issues (ink marks) actually look like when you capture them properly.
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the great images, it's certainly an eye-opener to one of the main drawbacks of S-AMOLED screens.
Regards.
How long have you had your phone?
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How long have you had your phone?
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Roughly about nine months, bought it in October 2011.
Sent from my SGS2.
Hope this is no news? Every AMOLED burns in (like crazy). Been doing that since the first models were on the market.
Every SGS2 has it, whether people say yes or no. On my SGS2 it was clearly visible after around six months. Knew it beforehand so it was no biggie/surprise.
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Every SGS2 has it, whether people say yes or no. On my SGS2 it was clearly visible after around six months. Knew it beforehand so it was no biggie/surprise.
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Yeah, also knew it before buying but I never thought the burn-in would look like that so I thought I'd share my experience with the world
While it does look pretty bad on the photos, you can't really see these issues when the screen is turned on with decent brightness, so it's no issue for every day use, but it would be interesting to know how the burn-in looks like if you use your phone for example 3 years.
Still, it looks already really horrible after 9 months of use when you look at the photos. I hope the OLED-technology makes a giant leap forward in the next years so one day these display issues will be a thing of the past.
thanks for the images, i find it disgusting to have that burnt in on a topline expensive phone in short time.
this is my first amoled phone so i dont know what to expect after a year or so, its bad for those who keep thier phones long term, would like to see how the screen is in 5 years time
is it bad when you watch a movie?
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thanks for the images, i find it disgusting to have that burnt in on a topline expensive phone in short time.
this is my first amoled phone so i dont know what to expect after a year or so, its bad for those who keep thier phones long term, would like to see how the screen is in 5 years time
is it bad when you watch a movie?
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Well, it depends while watching a movie. Sometimes I can see the burn-in in movies with a lot of dark scenes, in other movies this issue is not apparent.
Either way..since I discovered this issue, I cannot ignore it anymore which doesn't mean it annoys the hell out of me but still it's a pity to see the phone 'degrading' already after not even a year and spending a lot of money on it.
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ya its really annoying especially with my mentality that when I spend a huge amount of money on a tech kit I expect it to give me like 2+ years minimum
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Lol SAMOLED. That is all.
So I was unlucky enough to drop my N4 before I was able to get a case for it. I dropped it from my lap while getting out of a taxi so it wasn't a full on drop. At first I thought the only damage was cosmetic - a nick on the chrome trim on the top right corner of the phone.
However afterwards I noticed a small white/bright spot on the screen near that corner where it looks like the backlight is bleeding through. It's most notice-able when the screen is showing something white, less notice-able with colors (red, green, blue etc), and completely fine when showing black.
I've checked some info and it doesn't seem like it's a dead pixel, and just seems overall larger than a dead pixel. At the same time it doesn't seem like a lit pixel either since it's not visible on black. At the moment I'm very thankful that the phone is still very much use-able, but would like to find out what the problem is, and perhaps how intensive a repair this would involve since it is a bit annoying sometimes.
Anyone have had a similar problem or have any ideas?
Is normal. Stop obsessing about it. No phone is perfect. Even my wife's iPhone 4s has defects. If you are looking for flaws, you will find them, guaranteed. Just use your phone like you used to.
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Is normal. Stop obsessing about it. No phone is perfect. Even my wife's iPhone 4s has defects. If you are looking for flaws, you will find them, guaranteed. Just use your phone like you used to.
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Yeah I'm definitely learning to live with it. It may also not look so bad in a photo but it's still pretty noticeable when you're holding the phone in your hand - especially when I'm scrolling around and you can see this static white spot that doesn't move.
Just overall interested in what the problem is as well. I've seen dead pixels and also phones that were dropped where the screen looks completely fubar'd... but haven't been able to find any examples where the screen is like this.
RMA if it's that annoying. Assuming ur phone doesn't look too damaged that they'll say it was your fault.
I do see a few scratches on the screen. Google may not RMA for that reason. If there is another reason like a defect, use that to RMA. IML no Nexus 4 is perfect. I have RMA'd about 4 times till now with a new reason every time. Now after completely blocking my credit card, I have learned to live with an imperfect Nexus 4
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I do see a few scratches on the screen. Google may not RMA for that reason. If there is another reason like a defect, use that to RMA. IML no Nexus 4 is perfect. I have RMA'd about 4 times till now with a new reason every time. Now after completely blocking my credit card, I have learned to live with an imperfect Nexus 4
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Where do you see the scratches? I haven't even noticed them!
I guess from the replies I should learn to live with it then. Thing is I really thought this was due to the drop, but it's also possible it was a defect that I didn't notice... I saw some N4s with the light bleed problem, but were from the edges of the screen, that's why I really thought this was due to damage.
Send it back in, duh. It's still under warranty. :crying:
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Where do you see the scratches? I haven't even noticed them!
I guess from the replies I should learn to live with it then. Thing is I really thought this was due to the drop, but it's also possible it was a defect that I didn't notice... I saw some N4s with the light bleed problem, but were from the edges of the screen, that's why I really thought this was due to damage.
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I don't know whether these are scratches or camera problems.
I can't believe I have fricking burn-in on my screen! I have had the phone less than two weeks and have been loving it but last night noticed lines on the screen. They look to line up exactly with the thread topics list on the Tapatalk app.
I have been using the app a lot but there is no way I should have burn in happening. It's not like I have even left the screen sitting in one place when using the app. My hypothesis is that it might have happened from using the ultra brightness mode (adapt display with maximum brightness on with auto brightness turned on) in bright sunshine and using the Tapatalk app.
I have googled burn in for this screen and haven't seen anything so I wonder if I somehow have a bad screen. It did look great when I first got it. If anyone out there has heard anything about this or can check their screen on a dark grey background I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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perhaps a picture?
same here too bad.....
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Hard to take a good picture but you can see it a bit.
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same here too bad.....
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You have burn-in on your s5?
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Nothing on mine. I'd go exchange it if I were you
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Does anyone else have this issue? Does anyone else use the dark theme for Tapatalk app on their S5? Just want to double check if I should try it again when I get a replacement. Thanks!
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Got a new phone and the screen is actually a little worse than the original. Has the same white lines across screen when the brightness is turned down in a dark room with a dark grey or similar color on screen. Sent the replacement back and am going to keep the first one. The lines are actually not that easy to see during normal usage and I really like the phone.
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Every AMOLED device has that....
On Tapatalk Dark it looks completely blotched on all of my 8 AMOLED devices.
Any colour other than dark grey is fine.
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ShadowLea said:
Every AMOLED device has that....
On Tapatalk Dark it looks completely blotched on all of my 8 AMOLED devices.
Any colour other than dark grey is fine.
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Yeah I have had an s2, galaxy nexus and s3 before this and have noticed some screen uniformity issues before. Never had seen the distinctive thin lines like I see on the two s5's I have examined. I was hoping to have just got a lemon but now that I have seen another new one that actually looked a little worse it has actually eased my mind a bit even though my OCD wants everything perfect.
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Yeah I have had an s2, galaxy nexus and s3 before this and have noticed some screen uniformity issues before. Never had seen the distinctive thin lines like I see on the two s5's I have examined. I was hoping to have just got a lemon but now that I have seen another new one that actually looked a little worse it has actually eased my mind a bit even though my OCD wants everything perfect.
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Know the feeling. It freaks me out every time I use Tapatalk.
They also show up when you use a paint app and fill the screen with +-80% brightness with the screen brightness below 30%
However, they disappear when you turn the brightness of the screen up, (and compensate the black to 80% again) so it's just a bit of an error in the led calibration.
The area below the notification bar also has it when you run the colour tests after dialing *#0*#.
It's more predominantly visible on the S5 and Note 3 because those screens have the highest contrast ratio.
I'm horribly OCD over my devices too. There's a 0.5mm distance-to-screen difference between the edges of my screen protector... It bothers me every single day! >.<
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ShadowLea said:
Know the feeling. It freaks me out every time I use Tapatalk.
They also show up when you use a paint app and fill the screen with +-80% brightness with the screen brightness below 30%
However, they disappear when you turn the brightness of the screen up, (and compensate the black to 80% again) so it's just a bit of an error in the led calibration.
The area below the notification bar also has it when you run the colour tests after dialing *#0*#.
It's more predominantly visible on the S5 and Note 3 because those screens have the highest contrast ratio.
I'm horribly OCD over my devices too. There's a 0.5mm distance-to-screen difference between the edges of my screen protector... It bothers me every single day! >.<
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Funny you should say that I just got one of those tempered glass screen protectors and was amazed that I got it on without any dust or air bubbles. Unfortunately it is also off a fraction to one side and also doesn't quite line up perfectly around the home key. I am so tempted to try to fix it every day but I know I should just leave it alone. ?
Tapped It!