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4.2 Overall and Gaming Performance, Custom Kernel?

Hey Guys,
Ive got a couple of questions.
I bought my N7 like 3 weeks ago and enjoyed it alot.
But after the 4.2 Update i'm kinda dissapointed. Due to the reason that i dont want to do a fullwhipe because ive got like 5 gigabyte of Games and Apps that i dont want to install again(meh slow internet) i wanted to know if one of the currently available custom Kernels will give me the great n7 4.1.2 expirience back.Also the gaming performance in Games like Spiderman or Asphalt 7 is really bad, not even close to 60 fps (i think so ^^)Or you would you suggest me doing something else like flashing one of the 4.2 Custom Roms (Cleanrom etc.).
I really like the tooglebar so dont really want to go back to 4.1.2. Any other suggestions are also allowed .(Note: My question may sound nooby, but i have got my Moto Defy where Custom Roms really increase the performance a lot and so i dont know how it is on the N7)

Gameloft games will not run at 30 fps on our tablet. They haven't optimised them for multi core processors such as ours. However they did plan to fix that since the introduction of the nexus 10 tablet. However its only 30fps all normal games are locked down to that only mad finger games such as dead trigger, shadow gun etc run higher and with fluidity. No kernel is going to fix that. In fact I've had much more success with the stock 4.2 kernel than any other available. Its actually the first time I haven't felt the need to use an alternative kernel.
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Ok thanks
and how about the overall performance, will it increase if I use either one of the Kernels or Roms?

Steveletack said:
Ok thanks
and how about the overall performance, will it increase if I use either one of the Kernels or Roms?
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depends on the kernel. some yes, some no.

I know its against the rules but could you recommend the best ones?
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Steveletack said:
I know its against the rules but could you recommend the best ones?
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me, no. im biased towards one particular kernel

I suggest staying on stock. You might wanna flash a stock ROM. Maybe even try rasbean I've been on a stock aosp built ROM and love it.
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simms22 said:
me, no. im biased towards one particular kernel
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You seem to be every other post in that thread, so I would say yeah . Trinity or Franco are the most popular kernels
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To the OP why not use a backup program for your apps/games? Also a Nandroid backup will give you the ability to go back to your current set up if you don't like the change after flashing a kernel/rom.
Before flashing a kernel load a stock kernel you can flash back to.
I agree with the post above that says they are biased on suggesting a kernel. I think a better place to find a good kernel is in the thread for the ROM you want to run. But even better read through the kernel threads.
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So i switched to Cleanrom and Trinity Kernel, didnt improve. I think i have to wait for a release from google.

ÜBER™ said:
I suggest staying on stock. You might wanna flash a stock ROM. Maybe even try rasbean I've been on a stock aosp built ROM and love it.
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I love rasbean, but it just got discontinued for toro. It is pretty stock though
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Android 2.3 on Nexus 4

Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.

opssemnik said:
no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible

Ace42 said:
This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
If home button lags for you, try a different browser.

eksasol said:
It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
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You don't think the Galaxy S5 has good build quality? The Galaxy note was more of a square brick than a phone imo. I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)

PenguinxEnjoi said:
Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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First off, going back to GB is just silly. Not only will GB been slower than kit kat, it is also ugly as hell in comparison, with half the functionality, plus many google apps need android 4.0+ to get their full functionality.
Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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My trusty old nexus s does not think so.

opssemnik said:
KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...

anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
Ps2: "Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot", thats the problem, when u use dalvik is slower then 4.3, u need to use ART to get more speed then u had on 4.3

opssemnik said:
ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
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Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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MameTozhio said:
Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
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Ace42 said:
Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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neither me dont know why, but yeah, i got better wifi speed(some ppl are complaining that) but lags on screen buttons, and on some simple things like recent apps menu. :/.

Lag is always relative to the individual person. Something that is considered smooth and "lag free" may seem the opposite to someone else.
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I'm using Eco mode on AK kernel and the buttons are near instant. My exact setup is:
AK 132KK + Gnome PKK
Deadline sch, 128
Intelli plug + intellidemand
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To everyone that has lag on Kitkat... have you by chance done a dirty flash?
It was behaving erratic for me too until I started with a clean slate. Backup your data, let the factory image flash do its job and voila, fast Kitkat.

PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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Why would you think it would be fast?
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I want my 2 minutes back. I can't believe this went further then the first post
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GB was not optimized for multi-core CPUs. Would run like garbage.
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ART vs Dalvik Experiment : Suggestions welcome!

So, now that ART is becoming more of a stable thing that works on more apps AND dual boot is available... I was thinking of doing an experiment of the same rom with all the same settings dual booting with 1 running Dalvik, and 1 running ART. Looking for suggestions on what kinds of tests on what rom(s) / kernels / mods you'd be interested in seeing?

Sounds like a great idea. I'd say test with the stock kernel to get a good baseline then maybe see if there is a difference with custom kernels. Benchmarks don't seem to show any increases with art if anything they're lower. But to me art seems smoother transitioning between apps and basic ui usage. I'd say also throw in the moto x dalvik tweak.
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ART was stable since day 1. It were the apps that needed to support it...
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Yea, and I was thinking now with screen recording, it might be a good way to see it in action directly. So I guess the first option would be to be completely stock / odexed / etc?
I agree about the ART stability, but the end result for the normal user was the same - issues.

Only thing I would worry about is the overhead of the screen recorder might impact performance. I know on my pc screen recording had a significant impact on performance.
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Ahh. Good point. What about screen recording via PC + adb? Haven't looked into it yet so just spitballing...
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Elisha said:
ART was stable since day 1. It were the apps that needed to support it...
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No, they solved several critical bugs in 4.4.1 (check change log). And I am sure some remains.
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Xperia Z2 Stock Android Lollipop vs Marshmallow

I've been using the stock xperia marshmallow rom for a while now and i have always felt dissatisfied with the performance. It didn't seem like a flagship device. I know its 2 years old but my brother bought a Lenovo Zuk Z1 recently and it has the same processor, same ram and apps were flying around so smoothly on it compared to my Z2. That made me so disappointed because Z2 is supposed to be an equal atleast if not better since the specs are similar and its sony vs Cyanogen. Although Zuk Z1 was on lollipop so i went back to the stock lollipop on my z2 and things are so smooth and fast. Apps open rather quickly compared to marshmallow. Is it just me or others are noticing the performance decrease too?

Have you perform a hard reset on your device lately? It might help.
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Yes you are right bro. I have same problem with my Z2 on Marshmallow rom

Z2 MM plain out sucks in comparison to Lollipop. Also many devices with the same spec or lower seem to do a better job at running MM. It's not just performance, but things like call quality and Wi-Fi have taken a hit, even on the latest MM builds. So much for the "upgrade". Maybe Sony is trying to make us upgrade our phones, but their software team is seriously lacking some skill here... I'm back on deodex LP and loving it! Can't think of a reason to update at the mo...
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SolidSnake1976 said:
Have you perform a hard reset on your device lately? It might help.
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Yes. I've tried everything from removing all the bloat to reducing the number of apps i use to not installing any app at all. I used the fresh rom for a while with just some basic apps like fb, chrome and hike. There are some minor lags here and there and even the settings app takes a second to load after it has come up on screen. On lollipop it just flies up from bottom and thats it. No loading time.

RuffBuster said:
Z2 MM plain out sucks in comparison to Lollipop. Also many devices with the same spec or lower seem to do a better job at running MM. It's not just performance, but things like call quality and Wi-Fi have taken a hit, even on the latest MM builds. So much for the "upgrade". Maybe Sony is trying to make us upgrade our phones, but their software team is seriously lacking some skill here... I'm back on deodex LP and loving it! Can't think of a reason to update at the mo...
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Good for you mate. I just like the xperia x ui and the now on tap, although i could live without it but i just don't like the stock lollipop or marshmallow look now. I need the xperia x look. And so i'm compromising on performance.

So far marshmallow has been disappointing indeed. Permissions are great but not much else. Decreased performance & poor multitasking, I would have rather stayed on lollipop until they fix the issues or perhaps use a custom Rom since Sony will likely stop updating the z2
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After using MM for over a month, I am back to Lollipop.. LP is much better at the moment.
MM might need more time. I hope future updates could make it better than LP.

Best ROM For 6P?

Hello,
I'm looking for the closest thing to stock that also has the Pixel Launcher and Google Assistant. I'm running Pure Nexus on my Nexus 6 and love it. Can't seem to find the equivalent for the 6P. Maybe I'm just missing it?
TIA,
MJ

DBLX1 said:
Hello,
I'm looking for the closest thing to stock that also has the Pixel Launcher and Google Assistant. I'm running Pure Nexus on my Nexus 6 and love it. Can't seem to find the equivalent for the 6P. Maybe I'm just missing it?
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[ROM][6P][7.1.1_r13]★ Pure Nexus ★ Substratum | Fi | WiFi Calling ★

ragoodroid said:
[ROM][6P][7.1.1_r13]★ Pure Nexus ★ Substratum | Fi | WiFi Calling ★
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Definite No. Best marketed/ branded? Yes.
Uberstock best.

Pure Nexus always deteriorates fast , in my 6P. I use Dirty Unicorns, very very nice reliable and lasts for a long time before OS starts to deteriorate. you can find them by googling it. they arent on XDA.

Review the op features, Just try a few, then you can make a reasonable decision... Happy Flashing

sgtduckyboy said:
Pure Nexus always deteriorates fast , in my 6P. I use Dirty Unicorns, very very nice reliable and lasts for a long time before OS starts to deteriorate. you can find them by googling it. they arent on XDA.
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what do you mean deteriorates fast?
im on dirty unicorns too latest weeklies. which kernel are you using? im having an ok battery life with DU tho.

My personal suggestion to you would be to stick with the latest 7.1.1 stock rom and tweak it for those features you want.
Here's a link to the Pixel Launcher: (posted within the 5X forums but should also work for the 6P due to the chips being the same architecture)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/themes-apps/nexus-launcher-t3431396
Side note: this link also has the live wallpapers from the Pixel phones
And here's a link on how to get the Google Assistant on your 6P(or any other phone):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-enable-google-assistant-t3477879

I would recommend Cortex, which is based on the stock image but includes full Pixel features. I would stay a way from Pure Nexus, which is ludicrously overrated and has the most unfriendly and condescending support thread I have ever encountered. Pure Nexus is far and away the worst Rom I ever ran on my 6P and support was a joke. Cortex is very smooth and fast and doesn't add a lot of unnecessary features --it's literally stock with the Pixel mods built in and a handful of performance tweaks to the build prop.
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If you add the mods manually to your phone like someone else suggested one of two things will happen: OTA's won't install properly or your mods will disappear after an OTA and you will be starting from scratch every month and have to add them again. You are better off with a reliable Rom that includes Pixel features. But not with Pure Nexus.

Many people say they get 5+ hours of screen on time using stock 6.0.1. Not sure if you can get pixel launcher/ Google assistant on it though.
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S.IX. rom is the best out there, hands down.

infamousvincci said:
what do you mean deteriorates fast?
im on dirty unicorns too latest weeklies. which kernel are you using? im having an ok battery life with DU tho.
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I use elementalX kernel, using elementalx cpu settings and Heimdall 6 governors. I also disable the last 2 cores. 6 cores is plenty for everday activity. with that, i get a whole day of use pretty easily and phone is staying responsive 99% of the time.
by decay, over time, the Pure Nexus OS will get very laggy and slow for me. Not sure why, but every flash iinstall the same 350+ apps and import my settings using Titanium backup. Only DU seems to be able to stay stable longer than a few days.

For me daily use, the ROM stock 7.1.1 is more than enough
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sting5566 said:
S.IX. rom is the best out there, hands down.
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Can you give me the link for the rom. Thanks

spedyx7 said:
Can you give me the link for the rom. Thanks
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You need to join the g+ page, to get the link, sorry.
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sting5566 said:
You need to join the g+ page, to get the link, sorry.
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Well can you give me the link for g+

spedyx7 said:
Well can you give me the link for g+
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Try this
https://plus.google.com/communities/108198916369516028494
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sting5566 said:
Try this
https://plus.google.com/communities/108198916369516028494
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Thanks

Mmhh stock with GA and Pixel Launcher?

rchtk said:
Mmhh stock with GA and Pixel Launcher?
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stock ROM and Nova Launcher works fine for me

Best ROM depends on personal preference. I like Dirty Unicorns but you'll have to try different ROMs to see which one you prefer.
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