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So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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mcarbaja said:
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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jamal777 said:
Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Actually I have gotten way better battery life on stock but that's just me
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Customization is key for a lot of people who try custom ROMs. Kernels give some great features as well. We have excellent ROM and kernel devs so its really nice. The Nexus 4 is considered a "dev" phone by a lot of people so why not take advantage of the awesome support we have!
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Moot*
Also, have you tried EVERY kernel? Harsh keeps close to stock, but adds newer patches and fixes, as well as the ability to change gamma. He still uses mpdecision, which retains the stock snappiness.
OP, using custom ROMs lets you have the latest version of Android + all the cool extras.
T9 dialer, Pie and battery percentage are three VERY popular ones. Mind you, there are ways to add these to the stock ROM, but at that point it's not stock.
one word - COLORS
Run stock as long as you happily can. Keep an eye on the more popular custom ROM threads to see if there's any one, or more, features that you absolutely can't live without, if you're at all interested.
You're running a great ROM already and too many people jump into the ring without doing enough research.
The one thing I can't live without is hiding nav bar,
ok, two things, Touch Control.... Since stock kernel disabled it I had to use a custom kernel. Besides it's old habit. I was a Franco kernel user since Galaxy Nexus.
1. The software buttons can take up a lot of space after the status bar is included. Makes the screen feel less like 4.7"
2. The stock colors really are washed out. Modifying the gamma can get you extremely attractive colors.
3. I like being able to have a flashlight and my hotspot a touch away and having custom tiles proves awesome for that.
4. When you're playing Real Racing 3 and your girlfriend texts you, its kind of a pain in the butt to switch windows . The pie in my ROM let's me read and respond to my notifications on the fly.
5. Aesthetics. The boot animation, custom app color recommendations and artwork in general are just awesome on Paranoid Android 3.1. Cooler than Holo at times
6. Better sound. By default the volume on this sucks but now I've installed Xloud it's just right.
But in the end this is a Nexus device. Works just peachy off the bat but coming from the developer concept series from Google, they don't expect you to take it as is. Different strokes for different folks. 4.2.2 is as is. If you want more though the Nexus is the cornocopia of ROM development. Every big league ROM originates here. Another reason to love it among the rest .
Just my two cents
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CyanogenMod and Stock Kernel
In my opinion the best way to go is CyanogenMod gives you a lot more customization and the battery life, ram speed and CPU clock is perfectly fine so there's no need to get a custom kernel.
Custom rom allows you to control your phone however your want.
As for me, i am using PA Rom. The reason I choose PA because it has some nice tweaks and customization.
- Battery Percentage
- Customizable Lockscreen
- Quick Settings Panel Customization
- Custom color for apps :>
- Volume Button tweaks
- Full Screen (Pie)
All about me.
Customization!!!!!!! I really liked having a top of the line device, except for the crap sound, washed out colors and lack of options. Using P.A.C. Rom with the franco Kernel it seems like a whole new phone. There is almost no end to what I can tweak or modify on my phone. The addition of Awesome Beats and Noozxoide made my phone sound crazy good. Everyones phone is totally their own. No 2 are alike because you can personalize everything. If i wanted the same phone as everyone else I would have bought an Iphone. Once you start flashing you will find it hard to stop. Enjoy the power of Stock for a while and then come to the darkside and you will never want to go back to stock.
There are aspects of custom ROMs and kernels in general that give you an increased fluidity. The nexus 4 is beastly and honestly I run full stock right now until I somehow get bored with its performance and want to Rev the CPU/GPU to its limit
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Much more features, tweaks and customization.
R: Custom roms, but why?
Features and tweaks. Customization.
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Running stock or my modification of it lol. Stock 4.2.2, Root, Franco Kernel, Improved camera patch and Xlouder patch with awesome beats.
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Try it for yourself, bud. Don't be ignorant and make a thread like this.
With the custom rom you can customise more you phone and improve your experience with your phone than stock ROM. Many people said that in latest posts. But no one precise that every custom ROM has some little or big dysfunction. Look the chapter troobleshooting of each custom rom. Even cyanogenmod (very popular) has one.
My strategy is replaced the stock ROM by custom ROM when I 'm feel tired of my phone. And then it allows me to wait several mouths: time to search the right next phone for me and buy it.
How about using the stock deox roms ? This allows you to run the base rom plus flash some small customisations
Customisations in the roms sometimes bring instability, although most of the main roms on here CM /AOKP / AOSP are quite stable but that is why they are development roms
Hi guys,
Today I flashed cyanogenmod, most recent nightly as I don't use the pen and apps provided by Samsung.
First impressions
* Phone boots longer than stock.
* Temperature is higher while screen in use
* Car is able to read contacts (stock does have issues there)
* Overall the Rom feels faster and more smooth due to less stuff running in the background
* NFC tag writer cannot switch off GPS
* sound allows higher volume than stock (finally can hear others via Bluetooth)
So far, phone is usable.
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These are the issues I have with CM10.1
1. Bad quality call when on speakers.
2. Skype is crashing a lot.
3. Lower battery life than stock.
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For Me issues so far
1-Battery Life compared to stock
2-Loud Speaker Sound is distorted and unclear
3-Some Graphical Distortion when sliding up/Down some menus
*-I don't care about about s pen or multiview or other samsung gimmick I rarely use them, but these issues are basis and annoying
*-Everyweek I can't resist flashing cm saying that these problems maybe fixed this week , ending always with restoring nandroid sammy backup .
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@all which suffer the "bader" battery performance than stock TW.
I know this is TW vs. CM10.1 but I also notice "bad" battery performance on CM10.1.
Also little graphic glitches in recents.
I recommend SlimBean 6.2 Weekly by Slimroms. It is a masterpiece on performance, battery and features. Really in every aspec better.
I m still on the first battery circle and have 30 hours standby, 2 and a half hour screen on time 3 hours Music and still over 50% left.
Maybe for the one or other a good option.
Happy flashing
Battery life confirmed.
Guess it's a good idea too collect all of the bugs and keep an updated list of bugs suitable for end-users
Picture quality using CM is way lower than stock, also, a lot of features are not available with CM camera, I know we can replace it with another Camera apps, but I think pictures quality are way higher and better using stock
I hope you guys are talking about nightly because there is not CM release yet.
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I hope you guys are talking about nightly because there is not CM release yet.
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Of course we are talking about nightlies , there will never be stable cm release for exynos until crapsung release proper sources .
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I think that will never happen any time soon hahaha
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It just amazes me that stock does cause troubles with other devices whereas cm doesn't.
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I am also runing (always) the latest CM nightlies on my devices and i have to say that CM 10.1 is bad on the Note II when compared to the Nexus line (all my ather devices are Nexuses).
Issues i've seen till now:
bad battery life when compared to original TW ROM
slow GPS lock when mobile data is turned off
no MHL/HDMI output (again something that depends on Samsung's willingness to open their doors to us...)
poor audio quality when recording videos
poor picture quality comapres to stock camera app
I think this issues will be sorted out over time. Right now i am oscillating between stock and CM because both have good features. On the apps side there are plenty of options so running CM feels great - even the S-Pen works correctly!
Hi,
Personally I find that the most customizable cm10.1 but they are also more intensive battery. Now we can customized a stock through the development of our mods.
Each has its advantages and disadvantages but I prefer a stock.
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There was no opened thread for stable release of CM 10.1, so i opened it. I haven't installed it yet, is there any major bugs? Has RAM management got any better since RC2?
Yes stable version CM10.1.2 is very good try it out!
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It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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Ted Mosby said:
It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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Default CM kernel?
Ted Mosby said:
It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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flash latest devil kernel and u will know what fast is
Yes, default kernel. I am going to try Devil kernel, I have heard numerous recommendations for it. Also I am running this ROM with Greenify like CM10.
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Ted Mosby said:
Yes, default kernel. I am going to try Devil kernel, I have heard numerous recommendations for it. Also I am running this ROM with Greenify like CM10.
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you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
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you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
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I'm reaching 72 hours uptime mark and RAM manager has started to act up. I occasionally feel lag and unresponsiveness when switching apps. Battery time is very good, 2 hours and 45 minutes of Display time, mostly browsing on low signal 3G (l'm on vacation), That's around what I'm getting on CM10 so it's pretty good for me.
I wish I have stronger Nexus device to run this ROM to it's full potential
Its the best rom ever for the nexus S, for the first time ever I have been able to populate my homescreens with lots and lots of widgets and yet it doesnt lag at all with scrolling. And the atrocious ram usage of the RC roms has been fixed with the stable, I can keep my phone running for a few days without any serious issues. This really gives almost new life to the nexus S just make sure you are using greenify.
Has anyone else not been able to get some apps to connect via 3G with this rom? They all seem to work fine on Wi-Fi, it's just with 3G that I'm having problems.
I experience crashes when playing videos using software decoding in MX player. The nightlies also have this problem.
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you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
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One question, if i flash another custom kernel on cm 10.1, will i lose any of my data?
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One question, if i flash another custom kernel on cm 10.1, will i lose any of my data?
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no .. but remember to clear dalvik cache before flashing
The stable ROM has exactly the same problems as the previous nightlies (I've installed with full format of cache, data, system, dalvik, whatever):
- after few days it becomes laggish
- unreliable, happends to reboot itself. You can't even get to unlock screen sometimes; it happends even if somebody is calling you and you can't get to answer the phone
- do not use Chrome Browser otherwise it gets even worse
- if you use Swype keyboard the overall performance seems to be worse. With standard Keyboard it gets a little snappier but nothing that could be catalogued as "fine"
- people says it's cool because they keep the rom 1/2 days and then install nightlies or other stuff: when it's fresh from reboot it work fine, lots of free ram
- have more free ram by using Greenify but still the problems don't go away. It's overall heavier than a 4.1.2 (Which for some good reason Google made it as latest release for Nexus S)
- I've tried SlimBean with Thalamus Kernel and it's a little better for some stuff but basically the problems are much similar
Nuclear_Geko said:
The stable ROM has exactly the same problems as the previous nightlies (I've installed with full format of cache, data, system, dalvik, whatever):
- after few days it becomes laggish
- unreliable, happends to reboot itself. You can't even get to unlock screen sometimes; it happends even if somebody is calling you and you can't get to answer the phone
- do not use Chrome Browser otherwise it gets even worse
- if you use Swype keyboard the overall performance seems to be worse. With standard Keyboard it gets a little snappier but nothing that could be catalogued as "fine"
- people says it's cool because they keep the rom 1/2 days and then install nightlies or other stuff: when it's fresh from reboot it work fine, lots of free ram
- have more free ram by using Greenify but still the problems don't go away. It's overall heavier than a 4.1.2 (Which for some good reason Google made it as latest release for Nexus S)
- I've tried SlimBean with Thalamus Kernel and it's a little better for some stuff but basically the problems are much similar
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What is the problem in giving it a reboot every few days? Nexus S has ALWAYS gotten slower even from the gingerbread days if you didnt reboot in ages.
I honestly think you should do a proper clean install because I really dont have that many problems as you say. 4.2.2 is the smoothest the nexus S has ever been, I am even running next launcher very smoothly and redraws are minimum. On 4.1.2 homescreen navigation was quite jittery with widgets and wallpaper scrolling, on 4.2.2 it literally fly's. That alone is enough reason for me to live with the slightly more ram usage.
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What is the problem in giving it a reboot every few days? Nexus S has ALWAYS gotten slower even from the gingerbread days if you didnt reboot in ages.
I honestly think you should do a proper clean install because I really dont have that many problems as you say. 4.2.2 is the smoothest the nexus S has ever been, I am even running next launcher very smoothly and redraws are minimum. On 4.1.2 homescreen navigation was quite jittery with widgets and wallpaper scrolling, on 4.2.2 it literally fly's. That alone is enough reason for me to live with the slightly more ram usage.
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Never had these problems with earlier Android. The reboot proves what I'm saying: he can't be reliable for long run since its performances degrade automatically.
If you read what I wrote I said I made a full clean install: wiped data, factory, dalvik, formatted data, formatted system.
Everything running great only problem is the GPS bug with Google Maps after exiting the app & turning off GPS for some reason GPS won't turn off only a reboot fixes it but other than that 10.1.2 stable is really great
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running it has been really reliable but I do have ram issues even while using greenify... CPU on conservative mode too
is everybody's lock widgets OK? I seem to get a lot of wonkyness with pocketcasts,etc...
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Who can giv me a working CWM recovery.img i tried several but not wrking.
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Here you are http://www.mediafire.com/?z9ch7hna57pm5ak
i have it in htc explorer and i cant install play store..besides that it is very good
This is a pretty odd question, but i think I still need to ask because i'm so damn curious.And don't get me wrong, i am not saying g2 is not good enough. I have a G2 international, so love it. I am posting this only because i'm really dying for the hints. And everyone's perception of "smooth" is different, and i'm one of those who can easily tell the relatively smooth from smooth.
Lets get back to business anyway .As it's known that Gnex was released 2 years ago,i dont remember the exact day. Anyway, here's a very interesting thing that i've noticed.
I have a Gnex of which the screen was broken until i got it fixed 2 weeks ago. And with a new screen replaced , i felt so excited then flashed a new rom(latest slim rom) with the dirtyV kernel, then set it on art. Then came the MAGIC!!!! a lot of apps that were laggy had become super smooth, like the ios smooth. No matter how i slide back and forth, there was just no lag and everything worked so great. I just coulnt believe my eyes. So I thought it was the ART MAGIC that not only enabled the Android devices to load faster but also increases the smoothness expereince of thoses thir-party apps.
Then i tried those "super smooth apps" on my G2 , i was so looking forward to seeing that g2 would be comparable. Well, it wasnt, at all. So then again, i thought, it was the ART. So i turned it into ART. there was a slight difference between davilk and art on g2 that i could notice when sliding /swiping up and down,left and right. it was a bit smoother, but not as that smooth as Gnex is.
So i started thinking maybe it was the slimrom that did the ART MAGIC. So i flashed the slimRom(stable version), which was on my gnex.(ofc, i know not exactly the same). Then i try those smae apps again, it was ok smooth, but not that great. So i set it to art, then again, it was a little smoother,still, it was overshadowed by gnex.
So i am now wondering whether Gnex with the omap4460 and SGX540. along with the 720p screen is actually beating the G2 with 1080p screen?
Or it's because the optimization of the roms hasnt been there yet?
Even on stock my G2 runs circles around my Gnex. On a custom rom full 24A Madhi Rom my G2 is even smoother. Maybe you have too many apps running in the background on your G2? Also if it is stock the G2 has overaggressive thermal throttling which will slow the phone down. I'd say try the G2 again with a custom AOSP rom and see how it goes.
i full wiped then installed those Apps, so the system was clean.within the system UI, yes they are the same.both super fast. i am talking about the difference when you are sliding up and down on those custom APPs.gnex is obviously smoother,like butter smooth without any lag. you can try slim on your gnex and use art with the dirtyv kernel.and run some APPs like Facebook,twitter or what ever you can slide on. and you will see
what I mean. g2 is fast,it loads faster,but not smoother.I think it could have sth to do with the animation?
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probably CPU governor settings
try setting down_differential to 70 in the ondemand settings
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probably CPU governor settings
try setting down_differential to 70 in the ondemand settings
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I‘ll try and see, but i guess it wont work~ so curious about the myth of my Gnex, what does the Slim probable art do to it? there must be some tricks! I will be killing to know that and put it to my G2
ART definitely helps but my G2 runs in circles around any GNex I've ever used even stock. On Mahdi it's even better, and with ART on I can't make it lag if I try. It's like 5S smooth. I guess everyone's perceptions will vary. Play around with it, maybe something is causing it to throttle for some reason.
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DHM078 said:
ART definitely helps but my G2 runs in circles around any GNex I've ever used even stock. On Mahdi it's even better, and with ART on I can't make it lag if I try. It's like 5S smooth. I guess everyone's perceptions will vary. Play around with it, maybe something is causing it to throttle for some reason.
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The S5 uses the S801, a minor leap over the 800 in the G2...However newer Snapdragons with the except series GPUs are improvements.
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The S5 uses the S801, a minor leap over the 800 in the G2...However newer Snapdragons with the except series GPUs are improvements.
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I said 5S, not S5 haha. I was comparing to the iPhone, since people seem to use that as a "smoothness" benchmark. I know the 801s are improved.
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I said 5S, not S5 haha. I was comparing to the iPhone, since people seem to use that as a "smoothness" benchmark. I know the 801s are improved.
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haha,that's quite TRUE! i will try mahdi and report back. btw, my gnex was never as smooth as it is.it all happened after the latest flash.anyway,i will try and compare.thanks mate
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I just switched from the GNEX to the LG G2 and I cannot disagree more with the OP.
The G2 is so much better. Just try comparing browsing the internet with the Chrome browser on the two smartphones. My GNEX struggled to run Chrome in a reasonably efficient manner, while the G2 just blazes.
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I said 5S, not S5 haha. I was comparing to the iPhone, since people seem to use that as a "smoothness" benchmark. I know the 801s are improved.
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You are right, guess it's time for a stronger prescription.
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As much as I loved my old gnex, it doesn't even compare to the G2 in every facet.
Your G2 has to be defective in some way.
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by_the_dog said:
I just switched from the GNEX to the LG G2 and I cannot disagree more with the OP.
The G2 is so much better. Just try comparing browsing the internet with the Chrome browser on the two smartphones. My GNEX struggled to run Chrome in a reasonably efficient manner, while the G2 just blazes.
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it really depends on the rom. Here's the truth, if you flash the slim rom with the dirtyV kernel, then turn on the art mode. You'll see how fast your gnex go!NO kidding.
But g2 running with the Mahdi,ofc on art as well, the magic shows again! great!!!!
Thanks mate. Mahdi rom on art helps me beat my gnex again! it's really great!!!
I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
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I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
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ART is still hit and miss because not all apps are compatible with it, yet. I have a simple setup with my N7 and ART runs just fine. I'm not running Slimkat at this time, however.
Have u tried any other rom?
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I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
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Did u try some other rom? Im using liquidsmooth with art and it is seriously fast. Btw, ART basically reduces app loading times not much else. Try overclocking if u want a serious improvement in performance
I would not overclock the N7. There is a big battery drain even without OC. And the speed improvement isn't that much. For me ART needed it's time establish and then it ran smooth.
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gkhemka said:
I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
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I was just looking for this topic myself. Same.. I'm running AOKP 4.4.4 on f2fs.. We all know the N7 2012 is a lag monster but I figured ART wouldn't hurt, but in reality I'm seeing slower launches, in-app lags, just random stutters in apps that I've never seen before.
I'm going back to Dalvik, looks like it's not just me. Maybe ART wasn't on this chipset for a reason (not optimized for Tegra 3 etc).