This is a pretty odd question, but i think I still need to ask because i'm so damn curious.And don't get me wrong, i am not saying g2 is not good enough. I have a G2 international, so love it. I am posting this only because i'm really dying for the hints. And everyone's perception of "smooth" is different, and i'm one of those who can easily tell the relatively smooth from smooth.
Lets get back to business anyway .As it's known that Gnex was released 2 years ago,i dont remember the exact day. Anyway, here's a very interesting thing that i've noticed.
I have a Gnex of which the screen was broken until i got it fixed 2 weeks ago. And with a new screen replaced , i felt so excited then flashed a new rom(latest slim rom) with the dirtyV kernel, then set it on art. Then came the MAGIC!!!! a lot of apps that were laggy had become super smooth, like the ios smooth. No matter how i slide back and forth, there was just no lag and everything worked so great. I just coulnt believe my eyes. So I thought it was the ART MAGIC that not only enabled the Android devices to load faster but also increases the smoothness expereince of thoses thir-party apps.
Then i tried those "super smooth apps" on my G2 , i was so looking forward to seeing that g2 would be comparable. Well, it wasnt, at all. So then again, i thought, it was the ART. So i turned it into ART. there was a slight difference between davilk and art on g2 that i could notice when sliding /swiping up and down,left and right. it was a bit smoother, but not as that smooth as Gnex is.
So i started thinking maybe it was the slimrom that did the ART MAGIC. So i flashed the slimRom(stable version), which was on my gnex.(ofc, i know not exactly the same). Then i try those smae apps again, it was ok smooth, but not that great. So i set it to art, then again, it was a little smoother,still, it was overshadowed by gnex.
So i am now wondering whether Gnex with the omap4460 and SGX540. along with the 720p screen is actually beating the G2 with 1080p screen?
Or it's because the optimization of the roms hasnt been there yet?
Even on stock my G2 runs circles around my Gnex. On a custom rom full 24A Madhi Rom my G2 is even smoother. Maybe you have too many apps running in the background on your G2? Also if it is stock the G2 has overaggressive thermal throttling which will slow the phone down. I'd say try the G2 again with a custom AOSP rom and see how it goes.
i full wiped then installed those Apps, so the system was clean.within the system UI, yes they are the same.both super fast. i am talking about the difference when you are sliding up and down on those custom APPs.gnex is obviously smoother,like butter smooth without any lag. you can try slim on your gnex and use art with the dirtyv kernel.and run some APPs like Facebook,twitter or what ever you can slide on. and you will see
what I mean. g2 is fast,it loads faster,but not smoother.I think it could have sth to do with the animation?
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probably CPU governor settings
try setting down_differential to 70 in the ondemand settings
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probably CPU governor settings
try setting down_differential to 70 in the ondemand settings
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I‘ll try and see, but i guess it wont work~ so curious about the myth of my Gnex, what does the Slim probable art do to it? there must be some tricks! I will be killing to know that and put it to my G2
ART definitely helps but my G2 runs in circles around any GNex I've ever used even stock. On Mahdi it's even better, and with ART on I can't make it lag if I try. It's like 5S smooth. I guess everyone's perceptions will vary. Play around with it, maybe something is causing it to throttle for some reason.
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ART definitely helps but my G2 runs in circles around any GNex I've ever used even stock. On Mahdi it's even better, and with ART on I can't make it lag if I try. It's like 5S smooth. I guess everyone's perceptions will vary. Play around with it, maybe something is causing it to throttle for some reason.
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The S5 uses the S801, a minor leap over the 800 in the G2...However newer Snapdragons with the except series GPUs are improvements.
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The S5 uses the S801, a minor leap over the 800 in the G2...However newer Snapdragons with the except series GPUs are improvements.
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I said 5S, not S5 haha. I was comparing to the iPhone, since people seem to use that as a "smoothness" benchmark. I know the 801s are improved.
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I said 5S, not S5 haha. I was comparing to the iPhone, since people seem to use that as a "smoothness" benchmark. I know the 801s are improved.
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haha,that's quite TRUE! i will try mahdi and report back. btw, my gnex was never as smooth as it is.it all happened after the latest flash.anyway,i will try and compare.thanks mate
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I just switched from the GNEX to the LG G2 and I cannot disagree more with the OP.
The G2 is so much better. Just try comparing browsing the internet with the Chrome browser on the two smartphones. My GNEX struggled to run Chrome in a reasonably efficient manner, while the G2 just blazes.
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I said 5S, not S5 haha. I was comparing to the iPhone, since people seem to use that as a "smoothness" benchmark. I know the 801s are improved.
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You are right, guess it's time for a stronger prescription.
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As much as I loved my old gnex, it doesn't even compare to the G2 in every facet.
Your G2 has to be defective in some way.
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I just switched from the GNEX to the LG G2 and I cannot disagree more with the OP.
The G2 is so much better. Just try comparing browsing the internet with the Chrome browser on the two smartphones. My GNEX struggled to run Chrome in a reasonably efficient manner, while the G2 just blazes.
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it really depends on the rom. Here's the truth, if you flash the slim rom with the dirtyV kernel, then turn on the art mode. You'll see how fast your gnex go!NO kidding.
But g2 running with the Mahdi,ofc on art as well, the magic shows again! great!!!!
Thanks mate. Mahdi rom on art helps me beat my gnex again! it's really great!!!
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I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming out, makes it hard for me to want to go to it. I love my setup as well as my performance here on gingerbread. But, I have pulled myself to download oICSv41 as well as the GLaDOS kernel. Is there any big bugs with v41 I should know about..? As well as with GLaDOS. I know of the reboot problem, but it sounds like its just people using set CPU. And if I do have problems ill just go to mathkids trusty matr1x kernel that I've been using since 6.0. Although none of you will provably care I just felt the need to say this, thanks guys
PS. If you have problems like this, post then below, weather it be with phones or not.
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I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming
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I haven't had any issue at all except for slight launcher lag.
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I hate change too... I've flashed and tried just about every ICS rom and kernel out right now, but still find myself nandroiding back to my latest GB MIUI setup. Not once did I get excited about ICS coming out... honestly I don't see what all the hype is about. It took a year to get GB to what it is today, so I wonder what ICS will be a year from now.
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I feel exactly the same way. I absolutely LOVE my gingerbread the way it is. And about five minutes ago, I flashed back to good ole gb. I wont flash ics until an official ota cones out.
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Idk bout you guys but I'm not afraid to try new things, have fun living in the past cavemen lol. But things about ics right know are all known issues that Google already knows about. Bad battery life due to android os keeping the phone awake, home screen lag which gets resolved by using either kernels you mentioned and depending on the from you settle on, incoming mms doesn't work but outgoing does. Other than that, its bad ass and something new.
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I tried ICS for a day, straight back to GB for me, it seemed like a step backward for me coming from MV roms.
Matr1x v13.0
(Oc 1300/200 smartassv2 and live Oc 105% raise voltages by 15)
Nexusbeam 4.0.1
Perfect combination. Everything works, no complaints.
Quadrant scores of 3434, which is respectable.
ICS is the way to go!
Hope this helps you decide.
Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.
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I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close.
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And that's the story with anything new that comes out. Everyone hears about something new and runs with it and praises it to the heavens and back without knowing anything about it (true hands on experience). Its always best to form your own opinion on things and not let hype or anything like that to get in your way of judging something.
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Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.
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It's weird because the render time is insanely long on the OTA. But, when I had installed Kwiboo's or CM9, the browser experience was amazing!
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I dunno, i look at GB now and it look ugly and clunky. Stock ICS is running just as fast (or faster) and stable as stock GB did for me. I don't even have the desire to play with custom ROMs and kernels anymore, ICS is so close to perfection for my needs. Unless CM9 offers something really great, I'm sticking with stock ICS.
I fail to understand why the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 performs so horribly compared to my Galaxy Nexus even when the GNex is in completely stock and unrooted/modified form.
My Tab 2 suffers so much graphical stuttering, lag, etc that I can't even stand using it. Some of the initial custom ROM's (Clean ROM and InfectedROM) help with this but it's still so uncomfortable to use!
Does Samsung's additions to Android really suck that bad?
Sorry if this sounds too much like a rant. I just really wasn't expecting such poor performance when seeing the specs. I wasn't expecting Tegra3 performance but damn, I just need things to stop hiccuping and stuttering all over the place.
Yes there Addons do suck up a lot of performance. I can tell when I switch roms.
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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The stock rom is not optimized at all. The g nexus (which I also have) was built to run andriod 4.0. Thing will get better as time goes on but the roms available for the 10" are not as good as that available for the 7".
What this thing needs is some Franco love. LOL
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SirRhor said:
I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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I have a 7 2 and on the stock touchwiz it is very sluggish compared to a lot of other tabs. Its a lot better when you debloat or run cm9 or aokp. Stock is just to bulky with to many background processes. My opinion if your going to stay stock return it if you think its to slow because it won't get better.
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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As soon as one CM9/AOKP pops up you'll have a dozen to choose from a week later. Patience!
I agree debloating the stock Rom just doesn't help with the performance. Im just gonna be patient and wait for a well developed Rom. Not saying the current custom roms are bad. Much love to all devs that work there ass off
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
cheatman said:
The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
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I ended up trying your ROM even though I have a 5113 and it is, by far, the best running of the 3. I can accept a few extra useless menu options and a "you don't have a cell phone signal" icon for the added smoothness.
Thanks for your work!
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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I can definitely see a huge difference it terms of smoothness. You should probably delete some apps you don't need or do a factory wipe.
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I mirror your experience, however am still hopeful that when Sprint releases the actual files, things will be better. I haven't experienced JB on any of the newer devices, but the reports are good. Life is all about expectations ... guess we should be thankful that we're even receiving the updates.
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Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
You still should keep in mind that we're on a 2 year old device... yeah yeah the original Nexus S came out in Dec 2010... not quite 2 years, but it's based off of tech that debuted in the original Galaxy S in the summer of that year. It's great hardware, but it's expected that we'll have a tough time dealing with newer OS' ... quite frankly I've considered going back to a stripped down CM7 just because of the smoothness compared to ICS (and JB) ... we're just running into serious RAM limitations on this device.
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I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Try different kernels as well with the rom.
I definitely see a difference,
I have no more lag at all with what i used to before.
I think, the UI can be a bit smoother, but multitasking and opening/closing apps works smoooooth!
Much faster and smoother than ICS.
Running Jelly Belly 1.5.1
Don't expect 2 much from old device like nexus s.
Google is getting sued for project butter being "too smooth" by apple because apple claimed smoothness was patented.
Kidding,
But, I could see it happening.
JB is 3 steps ahead of any other OS :x
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
I just don't like the fact that it keeps the phone awake over night. You ask me jellybean trying to do too much in the background. Last night I turned off 3g. When I woke up someone sent me a mms at 12am. When I check the battery stats it kept my phone awake trying to download a mms without data on. Not to smart
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I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Dialer slow, opening Apps in Settings freaking slow, chrome slow...
JB gave new life to my NS, definitely the smoothest it has ever been, and I don't feel the need to OC. As I do with all phones/roms, all transitions and animations are turned off, including the third one added with JB. Also using Nova launcher, but am going to try Apex again now that they updated it with JB base.
And the biggest thing I noticed is how quickly the recents come up now, it's instant. I honestly didn't think that would be possible on the NS.
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I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Pick up the Galaxy Nexus and you'll see the difference much clearer. NS is just plain old.
Why don't you try setting animations to 0.5?
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Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Live OC - 100 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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I'm not bashing at all, love jelly bean.
Just mentioned where is slow.
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I didn't know I was in school & you where an English teacher. I think you need an eye exam if you can't see or feel that jellybean is faster than ICS.
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I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Chrome is a ram hog. Add in all the other processes eating ram, and you'll see why it's laggy.
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I know I should have posted this in the q&a but maybe we could have a discussion on the matter.
So as we know, this phone is one of the lagless devices I've ever had and I've had quite a handful of phones recently so I wanted to know your opinions on what do you thunk may be the reason. I know HTC dedicated about a fourth of the ram to hardware and I think that helps a lot. Do you think it's that or just plain old optimization?
From the way I see it, I think it's a big help from the hardware ram but lots of credits due to optimization. What do you think, why do you think so, and what are your views on hardware marrying software?
It's down to both hardware and software optimization, looks like HTC's Sense 5 has been built from the ground up to work with the new processors and Android JellyBean. They've done a great job stripping down the unnecessary bloatware and complicated options. They have refined the software to a point that everything just snaps.
For the first time since Sense first got released, I actually prefer this to stock Android. Love Sense 5
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I agreed. It's butter. Had a gs4 for almost 2 weeks can't never compare to the smoothness of the HTC one.
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did not notice any lag on InsertCoin 3.0
HTC have done a solid job on Sense 5 but I also think it's down to not including a bunch of useless software (like on the S4) and sticking with the tried and tested 4.1.2. I hope 4.2.2 and above are just as non lagging and stable. I can't believe how stable this device is.
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It's not so much about this or that, but it's just that Samsung for whatever reason has not fully implemented Project Butter, the biggest feature for many for 4.1 The S3 didn't have as much bloatware as the S4, but when the One X and S3 got updated to JB, the difference was night and day on the One X, while it MOSTLY stayed the same on the S3.
true story, project butter fully implemented even on the One X JB
equally HTC is known to use higher speed internal storage mmc
and of course the whole Sense 5 light thing and being optimized specifically for the s600 (unlike the s4 exynos and s600 duality)
lets just say its a very clean job
regarding 4.2.2, it's even smoother after the OTA especially the app drawer
Dont know if anythings wrong or the reason that im using the power save mode all the time.......my phone lags a bit at times, any other conclusion anyone??
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and of course the whole Sense 5 light thing and being optimized specifically for the s600 (unlike the s4 exynos and s600 duality)
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My last samsung was the sgs2, which could be perceived as laggy but in reality wasn't, some of the perceived lagginess was caused by design decisions (eg home botton lag, which was so multiclick combos can be done).
Try another (generic, not specically optimized launcher) launcher on a Galaxy phone and see it not lag at all....
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Dont know if anythings wrong or the reason that im using the power save mode all the time.......my phone lags a bit at times, any other conclusion anyone??
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Itd *could* be powersaver if your cpu limit is set. It will limit the cpu speed between 384-1134mhz when its on. 384-1727mhz when its off. Also, if you have alot of apps running in the background using *cpu* that *could* be it too....
AT&T HTC One
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Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
If home button lags for you, try a different browser.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
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You don't think the Galaxy S5 has good build quality? The Galaxy note was more of a square brick than a phone imo. I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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First off, going back to GB is just silly. Not only will GB been slower than kit kat, it is also ugly as hell in comparison, with half the functionality, plus many google apps need android 4.0+ to get their full functionality.
Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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My trusty old nexus s does not think so.
opssemnik said:
KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
Ps2: "Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot", thats the problem, when u use dalvik is slower then 4.3, u need to use ART to get more speed then u had on 4.3
opssemnik said:
ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
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Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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MameTozhio said:
Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
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Ace42 said:
Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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neither me dont know why, but yeah, i got better wifi speed(some ppl are complaining that) but lags on screen buttons, and on some simple things like recent apps menu. :/.
Lag is always relative to the individual person. Something that is considered smooth and "lag free" may seem the opposite to someone else.
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I'm using Eco mode on AK kernel and the buttons are near instant. My exact setup is:
AK 132KK + Gnome PKK
Deadline sch, 128
Intelli plug + intellidemand
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To everyone that has lag on Kitkat... have you by chance done a dirty flash?
It was behaving erratic for me too until I started with a clean slate. Backup your data, let the factory image flash do its job and voila, fast Kitkat.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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Why would you think it would be fast?
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I want my 2 minutes back. I can't believe this went further then the first post
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GB was not optimized for multi-core CPUs. Would run like garbage.
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