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Hi guys, for nexus 4 and nexus 5 is available a mod that port Moto X dalvik ( optimized ) in these devices getting great results in performance.
Is it possibile to get it on LG G2?
Here the post for Nexus 5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2537299
Thank you.
I think this is only for 4.4
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Most OEM phones already have it anyway, its only the Nexus' that dont have it. The way to tell is to run a benchmark like Quadrant. With an S800 CPU you should get in the region of 19-21k, not the 12-14 of the Nexus 5.
Its part of the reason im never impressed by the Nexus line, they arent that well optimised and frankly have just as much jitter and lag as any phone does.
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I think this is only for 4.4
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yep it is i mean for CM roms 4.4.2
ChrisM75 said:
Most OEM phones already have it anyway, its only the Nexus' that dont have it. The way to tell is to run a benchmark like Quadrant. With an S800 CPU you should get in the region of 19-21k, not the 12-14 of the Nexus 5.
Its part of the reason im never impressed by the Nexus line, they arent that well optimised and frankly have just as much jitter and lag as any phone does.
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it is only for 4.4.x devices so lg g2 and 99% of devices doesnt have it
ALiENr0x said:
it is only for 4.4.x devices so lg g2 and 99% of devices doesnt have it
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I think this can only have impact on aosp roms to fix thath low benchmarks scores,nothing else.( if this can be ported )
I tryed to flash it but bootloop on dalvik runtime.
suhiiii said:
I think this can only have impact on aosp roms to fix thath low benchmarks scores,nothing else.( if this can be ported )
I tryed to flash it but bootloop on dalvik runtime.
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yep benchmark and performance on CM roms ( and in less that a month also with new official LG Fw with 4.4.2 ).. i tryed too and get boot loop need somebody that can mod that and adapt it on G2
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it is only for 4.4.x devices so lg g2 and 99% of devices doesnt have it
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What I mean is that other devices have versions that are compatible with the version of Android they are running. Nexus devices just dont have it.
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suhiiii said:
I think this can only have impact on aosp roms to fix thath low benchmarks scores,nothing else.( if this can be ported )
I tryed to flash it but bootloop on dalvik runtime.
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Not exactly true. It doesnt JUST boost benchmarks, it boosts any CPU intensive process quite noticeably. You will see it less in day to day use, but it is still noticeable.
The 4.4 G2 official ROMs will already have it, AOSP ROMs wont.
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What I mean is that other devices have versions that are compatible with the version of Android they are running. Nexus devices just dont have it.
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oh ok.. but also if it is compatible is not optimized ( just look benchmark Dalvik scores with 4.3 on antutu get 3600 with 4.4.2 get 2200.. that's huge different also in performance )
From what i understand (and i may be wrong) the libraries in this case are not free, they are from Qualcomm and need a license fee. Google is too cheap to pay for it on the Nexus (possibly because they are moving forward with ART), but the OEMs will.
Hello. I have an opportunity to take a 32gb model N5 or G2 for the same price. I need to know, which one will be better for the day use for my cases:
1) much phone calls (GSM + SIP calls)
2) music
3) e-reading
4) foto
5) web serfing.
Thank you.
P.S. I hope, people who will recommend me one or another phone, had the opportunity to test both devices.
Tysovwik said:
Hello. I have an opportunity to take a 32gb model N5 or G2 for the same price. I need to know, which one will be better for the day use for my cases:
1) much phone calls (GSM + SIP calls)
2) music
3) e-reading
4) foto
5) web serfing.
Thank you.
P.S. I hope, people who will recommend me one or another phone, had the opportunity to test both devices.
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G2 any given day of the week (I have both the devices). You'd want Nexus 5 only if you want Latest Official Stock Android and Butter Smooth UI Experience.
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G2 any given day of the week (I have both the devices).
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What do you mean?
For the same price G2 is better.You get a slightly bigger screen,better camera and better battery life,it's like a better nexus 5 if you install 4.4 kitkat rom in my opinion.In my country nexus 5 is 534$ and G2 for 574$ for 32gb price difference is low so I'm getting G2.
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it's like a better nexus 5 if you install 4.4 kitkat rom in my opinion.
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I am thinking about this. Does G2 works good with a custom roms like CM? No problems with LTE connection in europ with custom roms?
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What do you mean?
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I mean LG G2 is better than the Nexus because of the Screen, Camera, Battery. But the UI is not as smooth as in Nexus 5 which has stock android. No matter which custom ROM you install on your G2, Official Stock Android on Nexus 5 can not be matched. There will always be some bug here n there & Void Warranty. (Please be advised, this is my personal opinion)
The G2 is much much better made, has a better camera, better battery, more features, and is more stable. The N5 has horrible build quality issues, I had to return 3 and rejected 2 more in the shop, all had screen faults and were different batches. The G2 is cheap because its not selling that well, the N5 is cheap because it is cheap.. and nasty.
The G2 can be made just as fast and smooth as the N5, if not more so, and seems to play games at a higher frame rate to. The N5 is just very badly optimised. The g2 out benches the N5, and while benchmarks dont tell the whole story they are an indication that something isnt right with the N5. I didnt find the N5 to be any faster, and it was often slower. There is still lag and micro stutter in scrolling widgets and chrome.
The N5 will have the newest version of Android first, but thats not really a big deal when it still has very few features. Kit Kat is little more than Jelly bean with a few tweaks anyway, its a minor update. The N5s main advantaged is ROM support, but do you really need 500 ROMs, instead of, say 30 for the G2, 490 of which is either copies of each other, or dont work properly?
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I mean LG G2 is better than the Nexus because of the Screen, Camera, Battery. But the UI is not as smooth as in Nexus 5 which has stock android. No matter which custom ROM you install on your G2, Official Stock Android on Nexus 5 can not be matched. There will always be some bug here n there & Void Warranty. (Please be advised, this is my personal opinion)
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I disagree on smoothness, and there is no such thing as 'Stock' Android on a retail device. Stock only exists in emulators, the Nexus runs Googles idea of retail custom Android. Each Nexus is a little different to the other and has its own customisations.
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I am thinking about this. Does G2 works good with a custom roms like CM? No problems with LTE connection in europ with custom roms?
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Got my LG G2,I am very happy with this divice.Lot better than the S4 i had. You can install panaroid android 4.4 on G2. Which is closest to stock.
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I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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I cant get S4 GPE in Poland, also S4 wakeup time is unacceptable for me.
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The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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What a bunch of crap, of all the brands I've used LG has been the best after the nexus line
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This is my opinion it may be a bunch of crap from your point of view I'm just saying that although my galaxy s4 was a knoxed down piece of crap Samsung actually knows how to make things work properly I do not agree with Samsung's lock down everything so I switched to the g2 I have never had such a buggy experience on a stock ROM
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If I were you I would wait for the HTC m8 looks like it might have nice hardware and hopefully it will be rootable who knows I've heard nexus 5 battery life not very good it must be software my g2 gets 2 days with mild to lite usage but if you get a g2 it might not be rootable depends whether it comes with kitkat but but you may not want to root
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I have two days to decide What do you mean by saying "unrootable"? Do LG G2 with KK have locked bootloader / recovery or it's just a matter of time?
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I have two days to decide What do you mean by saying "unrootable"? Do LG G2 with KK have locked bootloader / recovery or it's just a matter of time?
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I believe LG G2 has a locked bootloader and the KK update just patched something that allowed us to install a custom recovery.
spinninbsod said:
The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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admit that LG is worst updater in software ever but if u look Z1`s lags (in main launcher, broswer (Chrome is perfect) but games has no lag ofc) which i`v seen, ull say LG is heaven
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I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I've actually found that the internal memory on the G2 is incredibly fast. Especially if you flash roms/kernels. It flashes so fast that the first time I flashed a big rom like rooted stock (1.7GB zip size) that I thought something went wrong and it failed. Install furnace kernel and set the readahead to 1MB and I doubt you'll see faster nand flash memory in any other phone out there.
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I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I think you must buy G2 if you feeling of N5. Anyway, Z1 is good looking but if you want to buy Z1 wait for Z2
Again taken something out of nexus 4 thread.
Generally our devices are performing poorly on custom ROMs.
by flashing and patching the dalvik patch (i am not using bionic patch here), the score on antutu on my gummy rom with render kernel boosted to 17328 (this is where two cores are offline).
before that i could barely touch 16700~
Link to thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120
Link to patch
forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2620732&d=1394316359
Please try and report back (and of course this patch might be cheating with benchmark, but what do i care)
Also people with full cores online might get a better result.
Hmmm.. Well I never believed in antutu for a true judgement of performance. But maybe if we try this on STOCK rom it would help more.
if you're using a custom ROM, you most probably don't need bionic patch, as these are already included in most custom ROMs. You'd benefit only from flashing dalvik patch (if it's not already included by your ROM maintainer, of course),
don't use the bionic patch on CyanogenMod, PSX and probably others, because they already have more optimized versions!
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Falcon G said:
Hmmm.. Well I never believed in antutu for a true judgement of performance. But maybe if we try this on STOCK rom it would help more.
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The stock roms are already performing well, considering this is taken from moto x, i am pretty sure that moto g is highly optimized too with all the proprietary ****.
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The stock roms are already performing well, considering this is taken from moto x, i am pretty sure that moto g is highly optimized too with all the proprietary ****.
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better compile it using the new flags
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2756231
Falcon G said:
better compile it using the new flags
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2756231
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these are precompiled proprietary blobs. cant compile without the source code.
Hmm... Nobody is trying it. Has anyone tried it on cm11?
I installed on Stock KK, apparently nothing is broken.
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I installed on Stock KK, apparently nothing is broken.
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Any improvement noticed? frankly stock should not generate any improvement.
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Any improvement noticed? frankly stock should not generate any improvement.
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If you read the original post is most reliable ti work better on stock than CM11, i don't notice any improvement, apparently moto g is fine just like that, i think JB works better than KK.
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bogante said:
If you read the original post is most reliable ti work better on stock than CM11, i don't notice any improvement, apparently moto g is fine just like that, i think JB works better than KK.
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that is because nexus 4 stock firmware is more close to AOSP and they might have avoided using these binaries. hence nexus 4 stock are getting better performance.
Since our case is different, where i am expecting the libs are already optimized, hence no effect. On the other hand the custom roms might get benefit.
This is all just my speculations.
Flashing the zip labeled for cm11 got rid of the boot lag on the latest PA beta 7. It is for real.
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Flashing the zip labeled for cm11 got rid of the boot lag on the latest PA beta 7. It is for real.
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woah.. this is new. Didn't fix the lag for me.. although antutu says a small performance gain.
abhifx said:
woah.. this is new. Didn't fix the lag for me.. although antutu says a small performance gain.
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I was using furnace kernel. It seems to be hit or miss. Sometimes when it boots it's smooth as butter but then it's slow sometimes. But I am noticing a decent performance increase for everyday use. Scrolling is about on part with ART.
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I was using furnace kernel. It seems to be hit or miss. Sometimes when it boots it's smooth as butter but then it's slow sometimes. But I am noticing a decent performance increase for everyday use. Scrolling is about on part with ART.
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this is exactly what i was expecting. thanks for testing.
works on Moto G GPE? :angel:
Hey everybody, here to try and convince anybody who hasn't to try switching to F2FS to improve your N6 experience. I'd been running darkrom for the past 8 months or so on ext4, and performance wise the phone worked but that was about it. The interface was jaggy and closing/opening apps and getting to the camera was consistently slow which is what I've experienced on most roms I've tried over the past few years. A couple days ago I decided to start from scratch and switch the file system over to f2fs. The process is relatively simple, grab a f2fs enabled TWRP version, clear all data on your phone (backup to a computer or something first if you have stuff you want to keep), use recovery to convert data and cache to f2fs, adb over your new f2fs compatible rom (darkrom/lineage are) and gapps and start it up.
After switching over I'm loving the N6 all over again. Opening and closing apps is consistently quick. No jank in the launcher or accessing the notification bar, no delays when hitting the power button to bring the screen back on. While the phone was doing initial installs of all my apps it was actually usable, previously on ext4 while apps installed it was almost impossible to use the phone it got so slow. On the latest darkrom the phone runs cool and battery life seems to be great at the moment.
Anyway, hope that helps some of you out! If you haven't tried the f2fs switch I would highly recommend it. I had done this in the past on my OG Nexus 7 which made it usable and is why I thought to try it again on my N6, glad I did!
I ran PureNexus for a while with no encryption using EXT4, then switched to F2FS after hearing all the hype.
I'm in the opposite camp to you @gambit07, I think it's all hype. My phone performs no better or worse with the same apps & data with F2FS vs EXT4. The only reason I still keep it F2FS now is because I can't be bothered wiping again.
Are you sure you weren't running encrypted when you had all these slowness issues? I certainly saw a massive improvement going from encrypted to non-encrypted (EXT4 both times).
Everyone else: By all means give it a go, but it's just a slightly different filesystem, some of the magical qualities attributed to it aren't possible.
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I ran PureNexus for a while with no encryption using EXT4, then switched to F2FS after hearing all the hype.
I'm in the opposite camp to you @gambit07, I think it's all hype. My phone performs no better or worse with the same apps & data with F2FS vs EXT4. The only reason I still keep it F2FS now is because I can't be bothered wiping again.
Are you sure you weren't running encrypted when you had all these slowness issues? I certainly saw a massive improvement going from encrypted to non-encrypted (EXT4 both times).
Everyone else: By all means give it a go, but it's just a slightly different filesystem, some of the magical qualities attributed to it aren't possible.
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Huh, that's unfortunate. No I removed encryption when I first got my N6 and have never used it. I've been running my N6 on ext4 roms for the last 3 years and I've never noticed this much of a difference in smoothness of the OS. I actually didn't think much of it either which is why it took me so long to try it, but what pushed me was remembering how much better my nexus 7 performed after I switched a few years back. It went from literally not usable due to how slow it was, to usable. Anyway I would encourage others to give it a shot. The only other thing I could see being the reason for the increased performance is maybe the partitions getting formatted. I doubt that would make a difference but that's the only other variable that's changed
Well, I would think that a format will certainly help by itself, though a wipe should be just as good - but how often do we wipe internal storage?
Another thing to remember is that speed drops significantly if the partition is almost full - try always to keep at least 20% free.
I haven't tried f2fs on this phone, and haven't noticed a difference on other phones. From what I read, you should get a marginal improvement on typical use cases.
Also consider that f2fs has only recently stabilized. A plain 3.10 kernel may still have a few bugs left, so it's better if the dev has backported fixes from newer versions. People running f2fs on unpatched 3.0 or 3.4 kernels have seen occasional data corruptions.
After reading this thread I have searched F2FS on Nexus 6 and read some XDA and Reddit posts, seems like it doesn't make any performance difference, I'm on S.i.X v1.6 (Oreo), its working fine, if anyone using F2FS on Oreo ROM, please share you experience.
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After switching over I'm loving the N6 all over again.
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Would you mind sharing your ROM, Kernel and setup details
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Would you mind sharing your ROM, Kernel and setup details
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Sure! I'm on darkrom 7.1.2, the 9/24 nightly, link below. Gapps are included in his post and it's the stock kernel which is a modified lineageos kernel. Lineage supports f2fs out of the box. Steps were as follows.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-dark-rom-t3580215
-Backup current data to external drive
-Fastboot flash f2fs enabled TWRP
-Wipe all partitions in TWRP
-Format Data and Cache partitions as f2fs in recovery
-ADB sideload Rom/Gapps/Magisk/Whatever
-Reboot
Hope that helps! Still working great on my side
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Well, I would think that a format will certainly help by itself, though a wipe should be just as good - but how often do we wipe internal storage?
Another thing to remember is that speed drops significantly if the partition is almost full - try always to keep at least 20% free.
I haven't tried f2fs on this phone, and haven't noticed a difference on other phones. From what I read, you should get a marginal improvement on typical use cases.
Also consider that f2fs has only recently stabilized. A plain 3.10 kernel may still have a few bugs left, so it's better if the dev has backported fixes from newer versions. People running f2fs on unpatched 3.0 or 3.4 kernels have seen occasional data corruptions.
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Yeah, and the cells on internal storage degrade over time as well, but I am never consuming over 80% regardless. I had wiped my data partition a couple times prior to this in the last few years, and have wiped system/cache countless times, so I don't think that accounts for the change in my experience. The only reason I posted is because this is now my second device (after my Nexus 7) where I've switched and seen a noticeable positive improvement. I know for me it's a real change as my Nexus 7 went from actually unusable to being relatively usable after the switch. I had tried countless roms and full wipes on that device with no difference in latency prior. The Nexus 6 isn't as big a change but I can definitely feel the difference
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Sure! I'm on darkrom 7.1.2, the 9/24 nightly, link below. Gapps are included in his post and it's the stock kernel which is a modified lineageos kernel. Lineage supports f2fs out of the box.
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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Cool, let me know how it works! Curious to see if anybody else feels the difference or if it's just me
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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ElementalX does not support F2FS.
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Cool, let me know how it works! Curious to see if anybody else feels the difference or if it's just me
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Downloading 20171010 build, not sure how to check if there is any performance boost, because its already working perfect on current ROM I have recently switched to APFS (High Sierra) on my MacBook from HFS+, there was not any visible performance difference but of course it is new and better file system
Edit: It feel more responsive now, thanks Gambit
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Downloading 20171010 build, not sure how to check if there is any performance boost, because its already working perfect on current ROM I have recently switched to APFS (High Sierra) on my MacBook from HFS+, there was not any visible performance difference but of course it is new and better file system
Edit: It feel more responsive now, thanks Gambit
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Awesome, glad to hear it! Yeah I just feel like performance is more consistent. Less hang ups, apps open at a consistent speed. It just feels more fluid
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Awesome, glad to hear it! Yeah I just feel like performance is more consistent. Less hang ups, apps open at a consistent speed. It just feels more fluid
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For me, best part about DarkROM is Google Assistant on any screen, even when screen is off. I miss Oreo settings and notification / quick tiles, everything else is great.
I've used F2FS on various devices and while it does provide slight benefits in benchmarks, there's no real world benefits IMO.
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I've used F2FS on various devices and while it does provide slight benefits in benchmarks, there's no real world benefits IMO.
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Yeah I don't use benchmarks at all. It's real world use where I notice a difference
I'm back on S.i.X Oreo, honestly feel no difference in performance or smoothness, even it's little better on battery
I'd suggest that you're experiencing the placebo effect, or at the very least, benefits of clear flash memory. I've always found that my phone is faster after I completely format all the memory.
I've been using F2FS for a few months now. It's not a placebo effect. The phone is more fluid, less freezes, and stable performance even after downloading and using a hand full of apps
I have been using F2FS with the latest DU ROM and Sigma Kernel, clean flashed but I don't see any difference at all. In fact I had a couple of freezes and a reboot as well which never happened to me before using this combination. But maybe this in not F2FS related at all.