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Official 4.2 Update on ZTE N880E. What gives..?

As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Either Google is being a ****** or Android 4.2 will run like **** on that device.

Nexus HAL said:
As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Because Nexus S is a old device for two years that still is supported from 2.3 to 4.1.2 version.
It is unique!
p/s: I think 512MB RAM is so little for 4.1.2 version.

Agree (I red an article about 2 generations support of latest phones by the google, or equivalent 1,5 to 2 years support).
I didn't expect JB 4.1 update as official (I have been surprised)... so if you would like to 4,2, you have to root and flash

Google updates it's devices.
Zte updates they're own devices.
Has you can imagine, Google does not update other manufacturer's devices...
Summing up: You should have bought a ZTE

muldy said:
Google updates it's devices.
Zte updates they're own devices.
Has you can imagine, Google does not update other manufacturer's devices...
Summing up: You should have bought a ZTE
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Thanks for the heads up :laugh: Your signature says you use two nexus devices unrooted n with locked bootloader. hmm.. got it!
Anyways guys.. I wasn't dying to get the OTA from google as some of you have made it look like. I was just thinking if there was an official AOSP code available, our hardworking developers would've had to go through a 'little less' pain in bringing us some freshly baked 4.2 custom ROMs.
That's it.

Nexus HAL said:
As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Only thing that runs heavily in 4.2 is the new lockscreen with widgets. I wonder if ZTE left those in their 4.2 implementation and how it behaves.

All zte devices are lagging like hell, even the high end ones. So, screw zte, they will put even KLP on low end devices just to have it, they dont care about fluidness etc.
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I don't see the big deal with ota when we have great devs that bring us the latest anyways... I've been running a near flawless 4.2 on my NS4G for a few days now... Considering ota dropped less than 2 weeks ago for supported devices, I'm surprised such a stable build is out already...
I've discovered that if I don't use crappy Facebook app and I leave "sync" off when I want to actually use my phone, this phone flies on 4.2... To be fair, I had to do this on 4.1 as well... Not sure if I did this on 4.0 or not... But I'm sure most people would find 4.2 slow on these phones unless they tweak them like I have to get it this fluid...
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I don't see the big deal with ota when we have great devs that bring us the latest anyways... I've been running a near flawless 4.2 on my NS4G for a few days now... Considering ota dropped less than 2 weeks ago for supported devices, I'm surprised such a stable build is out already...
I've discovered that if I don't use crappy Facebook app and I leave "sync" off when I want to actually use my phone, this phone flies on 4.2... To be fair, I had to do this on 4.1 as well... Not sure if I did this on 4.0 or not... But I'm sure most people would find 4.2 slow on these phones unless they tweak them like I have to get it this fluid...
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I am too using 4.2 with marmite, and its all so smooth. Only 2 finger notification bar pull lags because of tiles. 1 finger pull is smooth. And 4.2 is better in any aspect than 4.1.2. I cant wait for roms start popin out.(if some devs stay here )
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alen1901 said:
I am too using 4.2 with marmite, and its all so smooth. Only 2 finger notification bar pull lags because of tiles. 1 finger pull is smooth. And 4.2 is better in any aspect than 4.1.2. I cant wait for roms start popin out.(if some devs stay here )
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its better performance wise? what about battery? cuz I dont care one bit for the new features.

Grahaman27 said:
its better performance wise? what about battery? cuz I dont care one bit for the new features.
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Performance is great, im shocked how well it is working. Battery is the same for me like on 4.1.2. 1 day 3hours on battery, 3hours 30minutes screen on time, 1 and a half hours music, YouTube, a lot of browsing, XDA etc. Im pleased about battery too.
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alen1901 said:
Performance is great, im shocked how well it is working. Battery is the same for me like on 4.1.2. 1 day 3hours on battery, 3hours 30minutes screen on time, 1 and a half hours music, YouTube, a lot of browsing, XDA etc. Im pleased about battery too.
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sounds great!! :good:

Will KitKat give new life to HD2?

KitKat just officially released. It is specially optimized for older devices with 512MB RAM, just like our HD2.
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
That sounds like an extremely good news, maybe it's time for me to start using my HD2 again.

Considering one of the main pushes for kitkat is that it is built for devices with 512mb of ram, I think it could be very good for the HD2

I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
HD2 development is going slower and slower as the day goes by...

andyjyneo said:
I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
HD2 development is going slower and slower as the day goes by...
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Maybe because its over 4 and a half years old...

andyjyneo said:
I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
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really hope so..

walter79 said:
2.6.35 build. you can try tytungs build too.
Next goal Android 4.4 - KitKat
repo sync runing since 30 min.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46983612&postcount=195

I too hope that somebody brings stable 4.4 onto the HTC HD2 as that will make it much more usable than current ported 4.3 version.
I am still using my HTC HD2 full time simply because no other device can do what it can do.
It really is an epic device and if we can bring 4.4 with only 512 MB RAM requirement then it will really fly.

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Maybe because its over 4 and a half years old...
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rubbish statement tbh the phone is still by far top spec compared to the cheap rubbish that cell operators offer on new deals
compared to a sg2 or htc one v its still good value
dam i hope some devs port it over as we can have both nand and sd builds now any ways
im sure its a lighter build anyway evin if its not there is s shed load of turd that can be trimmed to lighting the rom

hopefully its available soon.

The new KitKat seems to be the perfect OS (according to the info) and I hope it will be ported to the HD2 soon

I think some dude is working on it.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/google_debuts_art_in_kitkat_aims_to_change_android-news-7143.php
Not only is KitKat optimized for 512 MB RAM devices like the HD2, it also gets rid of the VM so the HD2 should fly with 4.4 !
Hope somebody is working on this as I can't wait to test it out.
It really won't be laggy, I hope, due to so many optimizations in 4.4 for slower / older phones.

yea i would really like too, to use the HD2 again. So I do really hope someone will make a stable 4.4 rom for it

The issue with the hd2 and all the other snapdragon s1 devices is that the adreno 200 is awful. It can't handle the gpu acceleration of ICS and newer at all. Compare the performance of a nexus one to a nexus s on an ICS or jellybean rom. The difference is gigantic.

bulanula said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_debuts_art_in_kitkat_aims_to_change_android-news-7143.php
Not only is KitKat optimized for 512 MB RAM devices like the HD2, it also gets rid of the VM so the HD2 should fly with 4.4 !
Hope somebody is working on this as I can't wait to test it out.
It really won't be laggy, I hope, due to so many optimizations in 4.4 for slower / older phones.
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I'm a bit disappointed about the KitKat. I managed to get it booting on my hTC Incredible S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519414, and it doesn't as fast as I thought. I have to say, it's a bit laggy. I hope, it'll get better if I put some optimalizations in, but the first experiences aren't so good.

blackhand1001 said:
The issue with the hd2 and all the other snapdragon s1 devices is that the adreno 200 is awful. It can't handle the gpu acceleration of ICS and newer at all. Compare the performance of a nexus one to a nexus s on an ICS or jellybean rom. The difference is gigantic.
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Well, I don't use apps that need GPU acceleration so that is not a big problem. Or, turn off all animations on JB interface.
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I'm a bit disappointed about the KitKat. I managed to get it booting on my hTC Incredible S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519414, and it doesn't as fast as I thought. I have to say, it's a bit laggy. I hope, it'll get better if I put some optimalizations in, but the first experiences aren't so good.
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Well, it still has to be faster than JB, I bet ! It is now RAM optimized and gets rid of the virtual machine so that means that old devices like our HTC HD2 with slow CPU and little RAM will work even smoother now.
The overall GUI may still not be that smooth due to Adreno 200 but individual apps should theoretically run much smoother than before like browser or office or other low resource apps.
JB is nice but KitKat will be even better, if somebody makes a stable 4.4 CM11 rom for Leo !

Check this out, runs really good.

It will give a new life for you phone

kk works great on HD2

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kk works great on HD2
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A how-to for dummies tutorial would be great?

Android 2.3 on Nexus 4

Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.

opssemnik said:
no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible

Ace42 said:
This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
If home button lags for you, try a different browser.

eksasol said:
It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
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You don't think the Galaxy S5 has good build quality? The Galaxy note was more of a square brick than a phone imo. I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)

PenguinxEnjoi said:
Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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First off, going back to GB is just silly. Not only will GB been slower than kit kat, it is also ugly as hell in comparison, with half the functionality, plus many google apps need android 4.0+ to get their full functionality.
Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot.
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I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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My trusty old nexus s does not think so.

opssemnik said:
KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...

anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
Ps2: "Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot", thats the problem, when u use dalvik is slower then 4.3, u need to use ART to get more speed then u had on 4.3

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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
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Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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MameTozhio said:
Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
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Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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neither me dont know why, but yeah, i got better wifi speed(some ppl are complaining that) but lags on screen buttons, and on some simple things like recent apps menu. :/.

Lag is always relative to the individual person. Something that is considered smooth and "lag free" may seem the opposite to someone else.
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I'm using Eco mode on AK kernel and the buttons are near instant. My exact setup is:
AK 132KK + Gnome PKK
Deadline sch, 128
Intelli plug + intellidemand
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To everyone that has lag on Kitkat... have you by chance done a dirty flash?
It was behaving erratic for me too until I started with a clean slate. Backup your data, let the factory image flash do its job and voila, fast Kitkat.

PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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Why would you think it would be fast?
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I want my 2 minutes back. I can't believe this went further then the first post
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GB was not optimized for multi-core CPUs. Would run like garbage.
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[Q] LG G2 vs Nexus 5, which one will be better for the same price?

Hello. I have an opportunity to take a 32gb model N5 or G2 for the same price. I need to know, which one will be better for the day use for my cases:
1) much phone calls (GSM + SIP calls)
2) music
3) e-reading
4) foto
5) web serfing.
Thank you.
P.S. I hope, people who will recommend me one or another phone, had the opportunity to test both devices.

Tysovwik said:
Hello. I have an opportunity to take a 32gb model N5 or G2 for the same price. I need to know, which one will be better for the day use for my cases:
1) much phone calls (GSM + SIP calls)
2) music
3) e-reading
4) foto
5) web serfing.
Thank you.
P.S. I hope, people who will recommend me one or another phone, had the opportunity to test both devices.
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G2 any given day of the week (I have both the devices). You'd want Nexus 5 only if you want Latest Official Stock Android and Butter Smooth UI Experience.

abhinavsg said:
G2 any given day of the week (I have both the devices).
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What do you mean?

For the same price G2 is better.You get a slightly bigger screen,better camera and better battery life,it's like a better nexus 5 if you install 4.4 kitkat rom in my opinion.In my country nexus 5 is 534$ and G2 for 574$ for 32gb price difference is low so I'm getting G2.

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it's like a better nexus 5 if you install 4.4 kitkat rom in my opinion.
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I am thinking about this. Does G2 works good with a custom roms like CM? No problems with LTE connection in europ with custom roms?

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I mean LG G2 is better than the Nexus because of the Screen, Camera, Battery. But the UI is not as smooth as in Nexus 5 which has stock android. No matter which custom ROM you install on your G2, Official Stock Android on Nexus 5 can not be matched. There will always be some bug here n there & Void Warranty. (Please be advised, this is my personal opinion)

The G2 is much much better made, has a better camera, better battery, more features, and is more stable. The N5 has horrible build quality issues, I had to return 3 and rejected 2 more in the shop, all had screen faults and were different batches. The G2 is cheap because its not selling that well, the N5 is cheap because it is cheap.. and nasty.
The G2 can be made just as fast and smooth as the N5, if not more so, and seems to play games at a higher frame rate to. The N5 is just very badly optimised. The g2 out benches the N5, and while benchmarks dont tell the whole story they are an indication that something isnt right with the N5. I didnt find the N5 to be any faster, and it was often slower. There is still lag and micro stutter in scrolling widgets and chrome.
The N5 will have the newest version of Android first, but thats not really a big deal when it still has very few features. Kit Kat is little more than Jelly bean with a few tweaks anyway, its a minor update. The N5s main advantaged is ROM support, but do you really need 500 ROMs, instead of, say 30 for the G2, 490 of which is either copies of each other, or dont work properly?
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I mean LG G2 is better than the Nexus because of the Screen, Camera, Battery. But the UI is not as smooth as in Nexus 5 which has stock android. No matter which custom ROM you install on your G2, Official Stock Android on Nexus 5 can not be matched. There will always be some bug here n there & Void Warranty. (Please be advised, this is my personal opinion)
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I disagree on smoothness, and there is no such thing as 'Stock' Android on a retail device. Stock only exists in emulators, the Nexus runs Googles idea of retail custom Android. Each Nexus is a little different to the other and has its own customisations.

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I am thinking about this. Does G2 works good with a custom roms like CM? No problems with LTE connection in europ with custom roms?
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Got my LG G2,I am very happy with this divice.Lot better than the S4 i had. You can install panaroid android 4.4 on G2. Which is closest to stock.
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Which one to replace Nexus 5? (Z1 vs G2)

I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.

The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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I cant get S4 GPE in Poland, also S4 wakeup time is unacceptable for me.

spinninbsod said:
The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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What a bunch of crap, of all the brands I've used LG has been the best after the nexus line
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This is my opinion it may be a bunch of crap from your point of view I'm just saying that although my galaxy s4 was a knoxed down piece of crap Samsung actually knows how to make things work properly I do not agree with Samsung's lock down everything so I switched to the g2 I have never had such a buggy experience on a stock ROM
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If I were you I would wait for the HTC m8 looks like it might have nice hardware and hopefully it will be rootable who knows I've heard nexus 5 battery life not very good it must be software my g2 gets 2 days with mild to lite usage but if you get a g2 it might not be rootable depends whether it comes with kitkat but but you may not want to root
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I have two days to decide What do you mean by saying "unrootable"? Do LG G2 with KK have locked bootloader / recovery or it's just a matter of time?

mnickkk said:
I have two days to decide What do you mean by saying "unrootable"? Do LG G2 with KK have locked bootloader / recovery or it's just a matter of time?
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I believe LG G2 has a locked bootloader and the KK update just patched something that allowed us to install a custom recovery.

spinninbsod said:
The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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admit that LG is worst updater in software ever but if u look Z1`s lags (in main launcher, broswer (Chrome is perfect) but games has no lag ofc) which i`v seen, ull say LG is heaven

mnickkk said:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I've actually found that the internal memory on the G2 is incredibly fast. Especially if you flash roms/kernels. It flashes so fast that the first time I flashed a big rom like rooted stock (1.7GB zip size) that I thought something went wrong and it failed. Install furnace kernel and set the readahead to 1MB and I doubt you'll see faster nand flash memory in any other phone out there.
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mnickkk said:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I think you must buy G2 if you feeling of N5. Anyway, Z1 is good looking but if you want to buy Z1 wait for Z2