Random question, but as I'm upgrading from the s3 I'm new to knox.
If I root, will knox keep warning me and getting in the way of my general phone usage?
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riso123 said:
Random question, but as I'm upgrading from the s3 I'm new to knox.
If I root, will knox keep warning me and getting in the way of my general phone usage?
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Hi,
I did upgrade from S3 to S5, I also root my device immediatly
So, Knox won't jump at you if you're rooted, yet *I think* that you'll be warned when trying to actually using it..
I'm not sure because Knox can be disable, and along the way of transfering my data , knox was disabled (i think Supersu apps does that), else I'm sure you can find how to disable it somewhere on xda !!
vorta251 said:
Hi,
I did upgrade from S3 to S5, I also root my device immediatly
So, Knox won't jump at you if you're rooted, yet *I think* that you'll be warned when trying to actually using it..
I'm not sure because Knox can be disable, and along the way of transfering my data , knox was disabled (i think Supersu apps does that), else I'm sure you can find how to disable it somewhere on xda !!
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Ah, so good to hear positive news after using the Sony z2 for a few days! That's just the kind of answer I was hoping for.
Can't wait to get my new baby tomorrow lol
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Hello everyone and thanks for helping me out in my last post. OK so I wait and get my mja update, which by the way fixed all the bugs on the gs4. Now I am thinking I want to root but I can't find a guide online anywhere, a Lil help would be appreciated.
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You haven't searched or read much. You can use CF auto root.
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No I have done my research CF doesn't work with sprint gs4 Mja build
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hm I did cf auto root, and it worked just fine for me.
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It made knox go 0x1 right?
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yep
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JayMix said:
It made knox go 0x1 right?
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The only way to root MJA is to use CF and trip the Knox counter.
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OK just a few more questions. So in the distant future will it be possible to turn knox back to 0x0 and unroot phone?
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JayMix said:
OK just a few more questions. So in the distant future will it be possible to turn knox back to 0x0 and unroot phone?
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Maybe. But it doesn't matter. At this point in time, it has been confirmed that Sprint will not be denying service for devices with the Knox counter tripped.
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Maybe. But it doesn't matter. At this point in time, it has been confirmed that Sprint will not be denying service for devices with the Knox counter tripped.
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Where did you get this information from? Source please.
JayMix said:
OK just a few more questions. So in the distant future will it be possible to turn knox back to 0x0 and unroot phone?
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I told you it works.
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Yep your right. Only thing I'm having trouble with now is where is my cwm to flash cyanogenmod.
I also have great news for all gs4 users who aren't rooted yet and running mja. I ran cf auto root on my pc with all anti-virus turned off and everything worked perfect, no SU or knox problems at. I was on sprint mja build.
Read up, make sure u have the right software and drivers and you should be fine.
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Where did you get this information from? Source please.
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From galaxys3man30:
Mr.kennyglass123 just got some confirmed info that sprint will repair/replace your phone with the knox counter set 0x1 so that's some positive news. I've have been able to successfully root and add a custom kernel to 4.3 without any issues and it's not as bad as it seems just people where making the mistake of trying to go back to a earlier update and with the new bootloader that just not possible right now. So, it's not that scary to do this update but I can understand where ur coming from thou buddy. I will be here to help you with it if you need me buddy I have successfully remove all of knox from the ota rom so far so it's that hard to get removed and such. Just trying to give some encouraging info buddy.
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From galaxys3man30:
Mr.kennyglass123 just got some confirmed info that sprint will repair/replace your phone with the knox counter set 0x1 so that's some positive news. I've have been able to successfully root and add a custom kernel to 4.3 without any issues and it's not as bad as it seems just people where making the mistake of trying to go back to a earlier update and with the new bootloader that just not possible right now. So, it's not that scary to do this update but I can understand where ur coming from thou buddy. I will be here to help you with it if you need me buddy I have successfully remove all of knox from the ota rom so far so it's that hard to get removed and such. Just trying to give some encouraging info buddy.
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An important clarification, Sprint will do this! Samsung will NOT!!!! It is very important you understand the difference. If you are paying for Sprint TEP (Total Equipment Protection), Best Buy Protection, or even Square Trade Insurance then the Knox flag shouldn't be a problem. If you do not have any of the insurance packages and you are solely relying on the Samsung warranty for your phone than you should know that Samsung will reject any warranty claim if the Knox flag is tripped or they can tell that you rooted it. They will fix your phone for a fee.
Hi,
I am waiting for note 3 to arrive. Ordered by my company.
I have a S2 now and have flashed many roms and was always rooted.
Now I run stock rom rooted only to freeze apps.
Having read a lot about knox and its warranty void, I wonder do I need root just to freeze apps? Can it be done without root?
EJ
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No you can not freeze apps on a non root device but if it is a company phone you need to talk to your it-manager if you are allowed to do so. For Security reasons
Thx.
My company is real easy bout this stuff. Dont have clue what root is.
Anyway I thought apps can be turned off on 4.3? Through the apps manager?
EJ
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efjbdejong said:
Hi,
I am waiting for note 3 to arrive. Ordered by my company.
I have a S2 now and have flashed many roms and was always rooted.
Now I run stock rom rooted only to freeze apps.
Having read a lot about knox and its warranty void, I wonder do I need root just to freeze apps? Can it be done without root?
EJ
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Yes some apps can be frozen without root, not all..
efjbdejong said:
Hi,
I am waiting for note 3 to arrive. Ordered by my company.
I have a S2 now and have flashed many roms and was always rooted.
Now I run stock rom rooted only to freeze apps.
Having read a lot about knox and its warranty void, I wonder do I need root just to freeze apps? Can it be done without root?
EJ
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you can root with this and knox will be fine you cant install cwm or twrp or any roms but you can use titanium ,i think thats all you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
Thx guys will look into urdlv.
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Hi
Iam starting to hate my note for every day.
I need to root to install ad block. No joy with all anoying ads over all. Even I use ad block plus without root it makes sites slow.
And oh my god to remove Samsung boatware( suggestions to methods or safe apps to remove?)
Devise updated to newest firmware. I guess I have no chance to root without tripping Knox? But I really don't care anymore. Any root methods that I can use without damaging the phone? As long as it works.
I appreciate any advice^^
No more Samsung Devises for me. At least never at full price.
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kenny1991 said:
Hi
Iam starting to hate my note for every day.
I need to root to install ad block. No joy with all anoying ads over all. Even I use ad block plus without root it makes sites slow.
And oh my god to remove Samsung boatware( suggestions to methods or safe apps to remove?)
Devise updated to newest firmware. I guess I have no chance to root without tripping Knox? But I really don't care anymore. Any root methods that I can use without damaging the phone? As long as it works.
I appreciate any advice^^
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Depends what your latest firmware is on your device as to IF you trip KNOX, tbh if you aren't fussed about a tripped KNOX and don't care (much like me and lots of others) then just use CF-AutoRoot simplest method now.
It is mj7
Thank you
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kenny1991 said:
It is mj7
Thank you
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If MJ7 no RDLV(KNOX safe) method (unless bootloader is MJ1-3 or so) -- So CF-AutoRoot it'll have to be. Well that's what I am aware of at least. Unless someone else chimes in with an alternative(?)
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radicalisto said:
If MJ7 no RDLV(KNOX safe) method (unless bootloader is MJ1-3 or so) -- So CF-AutoRoot it'll have to be. Well that's what I am aware of at least. Unless someone else chimes in with an alternative(?)
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Just used CF- AR and worked as it should.
Finaly
All good
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Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
Apoplectic1 said:
Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.
androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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Hey XDA community. I recently got a Galaxy Note 3 Verizon and have been having some issues. Randomly my phone will freeze then reboot. It's typically when playing games that are graphic intensive. I cleared the cache, done 2 factory reset, and uninstalled and reinstalled all apps giving me issues. It seems to be doing better now but it recently froze while browsing chrome. I was wondering if this was a known issue and how other people fixed it. I read somewhere that I should root and rom my phone since the factory firmware caused a problem with someone else. So any tips or thoughts would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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firemandan said:
Hey XDA community. I recently got a Galaxy Note 3 Verizon and have been having some issues. Randomly my phone will freeze then reboot. It's typically when playing games that are graphic intensive. I cleared the cache, done 2 factory reset, and uninstalled and reinstalled all apps giving me issues. It seems to be doing better now but it recently froze while browsing chrome. I was wondering if this was a known issue and how other people fixed it. I read somewhere that I should root and rom my phone since the factory firmware caused a problem with someone else. So any tips or thoughts would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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I don't play alot of games. Just Subway Surfers and Temple Run so I won't be of much help there but if you're considering rooting and maybe flashing roms check this post out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55003142
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Ok so next question then. I am planning on maybe sending it to samsung for the factory warranty. I would like to try roming it first to see if that fixes it, but not if they are going to be able to tell and void the warranty. So is the reversal process possible on this phone so that they will never know it was rooted? Or is there a counter that they will be able to see?
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Ok so next question then. I am planning on maybe sending it to samsung for the factory warranty. I would like to try roming it first to see if that fixes it, but not if they are going to be able to tell and void the warranty. So is the reversal process possible on this phone so that they will never know it was rooted? Or is there a counter that they will be able to see?
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If the previous owner rooted it properly he/she shouldn't have tripped knox. If you'd like to check put your phone in download mode and check. Power off phone then restart holding power, vol down and home. If you'd like to to restore and send it in then you'd use Odin to restore with the files here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47400062&postcount=1 as long as you're on MJE use the MJE factory tar file. Make sure you use retail if you're on a retail phone or you'll possibly brick it. If you decide to upgrade use the NC2 method and if it continues to act up you can go to stock with the MJE version just to keep it simple.
Ok so I checked and it says Knox 0x0. I am assuming that means it hasn't been tripped. Now is there a root method that will avoid tripping Knox?
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Ok so I checked and it says Knox 0x0. I am assuming that means it hasn't been tripped. Now is there a root method that will avoid tripping Knox?
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Good, if you're on NC4 use towel root.
See this thread by @droidguy22 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53428156
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Ok awesome. And using towel root properly won't trip Knox correct the? Also with these phones is it required to put the roms and kernels on an SD card or is it OK using the internal storage?
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Ok awesome. And using towel root properly won't trip Knox correct the? Also with these phones is it required to put the roms and kernels on an SD card or is it OK using the internal storage?
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Put your rom zips on your external sd. No kernels yet but hopefully down the line. I rooted before towel root but everyone says it doesn't trip Knox.
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Copy that thanks. I'm coming from the razr maxx HD and all I used was the internal memory on that so was checking to see if it was possible with this phone too
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Mine was doing this brand new unrooted. Exchanged it for a new one and the problem went away. There are lemons out there. Take it back to the Verizon store before it's too late.
Yeah I got it from someone else and I'm going to have to do the factory warranty I believe. I appreciate the info.
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