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Is anyone else experiencing this? On web pages or long lists, scrolling around is not nearly as smooth as it should be. My brother has a Hero, and the Evo is not as bad as that... but it is nowhere near as smooth as an iPhone is. If I scroll around quickly, it gets pretty jumpy, where the frame rate slows down a lot. I read another thread (maybe on a different forum) where people claim that it's just the difference between the speed of scrolling and/or the "coasting" feature of the phones, but this is not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to mainly the frame rate of scrolling around and also the lag between when my finger moves and when the action takes place. It is most apparent on bigger web pages and long lists (like the Manage Application list). But it also does not happen all the time.
I have Advanced Task Killer running too, set at "Crazy" and the kill frequency set to "When screen off". Is there anything else I can do to make scrolling smoother?
I'm sick of having my friends who have iPhones playing with it, and immediately commenting on how it's not nearly as responsive.
Any ideas?
I played with an EVO in the Sprint store yesterday and noticed the same thing. While overall I found it to be really fast, in some areas (like switching between home screens) it was noticeably choppy compared to my Hero. Though I should note that my Hero is rooted and running Fresh 2.1.1.
One suggestion I might make is to not use overly aggressive settings with a task killer. This has been known to cause some odd behavior with Android including choppiness.
Working amazingly for me. As close to the smoothness of an iPhone as I've ever seen.
Have you tried a full restore? Keep checking after each app installation to figure out what (if anything) is causing the problem.
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Do you have Live Wallpaper running?
I do not. In fact while "conditioning" my battery, brightness down minimum, WiFi/GPS/4G/Bluetooth all off as well.
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How much free memory do you have?
I noticed the choppiness too but it wasn't too bad, just unfitting of a phone with such high specs.
It's because of the Live Wallpapers, some are more processor intensive than others so some it's more noticeable on than others. Put a regular Wallpaper up and everythings nice and smooth.
I don't use Live Wallpapers anymore, they were cool for awhile but after a couple months of them on my Nexus the novelty has worn off.
I notice it also even with a regular wallpaper..i mean its pretty smooth but it does lag a bit.
I notice laggy scrolling within the HTC-built applications. For example, when looking through contact information or social updates. The scrolling is really bad, and I think that just might be because of the huge amount of information the HTC apps are processing. I'm sure all the social information being pulled from every end of the Internet isn't the easiest thing for the device to do, even if it is the Evo.
Aside from that, everything else is as smooth as butter.
Still stock on mine and I haven't noticed any lag, though I use Dolphin HD and Skyfire.
I don't have Live Wallpaper running, and about 200MB of free memory.
And I don't think it's with the HTC-built applications only. I notice it in most applications. Just put an iPhone right beside it and scroll around on both... huge difference.
I just changed the settings on Advanced Task Killer to Aggressive (down from Crazy) and Every half hour (down from When screen off). Maybe this will help... we'll see. Maybe Advanced Task Killer is not the best app for this? Are there any better ones? Why didn't Google have this built in if it really helped so much with speed+battery life?
Maybe FroYo will fix this issue? Does anyone know when this will be available?
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Maybe FroYo will fix this issue? Does anyone know when this will be available?
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I have noticed this too at times. Froyo made my Nexus One a hell of a lot faster, it will do the same for the Evo
Still on Stock rom and no root, scrolling, pinch zoom are all smooth and fast.
theoner1 said:
Still on Stock rom and no root, scrolling, pinch zoom are all smooth and fast.
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Have you compared it to an iPhone though?
shawnee4885 said:
Have you compared it to an iPhone though?
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I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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It's all about the quality of the programming, i'm not calling htc programers bad but it seems like some of their stuff is just slow.
Grims said:
I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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First u have to realize that the iphone was built with its gpu base OS. So all the scrolling and animation are base on gpu WITH THE HELP OF CPU. Android will be more dificult since of all its different hardware. Iphone OS is just base on iphone hardware but If iphone was running without gpu support, it would move like crap.
One example of this is zuneHD. it is base on a hardware base on tegra with gpu support and is smoother than iphone since tegra is a more capable gpu chip.
This discussion has been on and off with palmpre guys and waiting for an update to enable gpu support in the OS. Gpu support is supported in game but not in the OS for scrolling etc. Just like android.
This is the reason the iphone can run smooth at low mhz. The iphone 2g even at its low mhz still is smoother in scrolling and transiction than android because of it gpu intigrationbut ofcourse not faster. Hope this help.
Another example is compiz for linux. It create a semi gpu OS of linux and u can see how compiz on linux look light yeat better and smoother than wimdows 7 with a much lower hardware spec.
eduardmc said:
First u have to realize that the iphone was built with its gpu base OS. So all the scrolling and animation are base on gpu WITH THE HELP OF CPU. Android will be more dificult since of all its different hardware. Iphone OS is just base on iphone hardware but If iphone was running without gpu support, it would move like crap.
One example of this is zuneHD. it is base on a hardware base on tegra with gpu support and is smoother than iphone since tegra is a more capable gpu chip.
This discussion has been on and off with palmpre guys and waiting for an update to enable gpu support in the OS. Gpu support is supported in game but not in the OS for scrolling etc. Just like android.
This is the reason the iphone can run smooth at low mhz. The iphone 2g even at its low mhz still is smoother in scrolling and transiction than android because of it gpu intigrationbut ofcourse not faster. Hope this help.
Another example is compiz for linux. It create a semi gpu OS of linux and u can see how compiz on linux look light yeat better and smoother than wimdows 7 with a much lower hardware spec.
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Thanks that explains a lot, i wasn't aware Android doesn't use GPU support in this area.
I just wanted to throw this in. I know everyone is comparing things like the scrolling framerate to the iPhone's. But there is one slight issue that a lot of developers can tell you off the bat.
JAVA
iPhone is not based on java and android UI is. This is sort of why JIT is slated to make such a big difference. Java is just laggy, especially when it comes to UI. For instance: open office, eclipse, and just about any other java based app I see on linux. GTK apps are fine in ubuntu, but when I open eclipse I just know there is a delay between when I click the "file" menu and when it actually opens.
I noticed it on my hero, and no amount of free ram or killing apps would completely get rid of it. Now I have to say going from the hero to the evo I honestly do not notice any lag. But the UI on the hero just has a solid delay EVERYWHERE you go. But I noticed it was not there as soon as I got into a game written in the dalvik way. It will come, and we will eventually be there. But I don't blame it on hardware. Core2quad in eclipse and the UI lags? Blame it on Java.
Now I know some folks will say "nu uhh. such and such java android app doesn't do that!" But almost all apps for android and sense do this if they are written in java. Some more than others.
One final thing, there are several articles about why you shouldn't use task killers. It became perfectly clear it was a bad idea on some of toast's later kernel. and yes, the memory management can be improved for root users. but for non root users, I know it is counter-intuitive but task killers have major drawbacks. Just do some searching and decide for yourself, but I noticed a huge difference on my hero when I stopped using a task killer and allowed the default memory management to take over. And honestly, on my EVO I don't EVER notice a slow down.
Has anyone else noticed that when using NAND Desire HD/Z sense builds that their phone seems to run more smoothly after the 1st day or two running at stock speeds than it does when running overclocked?
I was getting a bit of lag here and there, and as expected after having streamed music literally all night via wifi the phone was a real dog first thing in the morning until the memory cleared out.
I noticed after a couple of days my phone would spontaneously reboot - I was overclocking to 1.5ghz using MDJ's 10.3OC kernel, so I figured that it was the overclock causing the reboot - sure enough the phone runs smooth as glass now that I've throttled it back to 1ghz (interactive governor).
Is it just my imagination?
It is hard to say really, as you will have different apps, widgets and syncs set up to me, plus we are running different builds, thus a direct comparison is very hard.
All that matters is what works for YOU.
FYI I don't find any meaningful benefit by overclocking. So I don't bother. I haven't really noticed a speed difference either way. If however it made a positive difference, I would.
Just for the record, benchmarking and Quadrant scores are nothing more than a waste of time and are only useful for arguments starting with the words "Mine is better than yours because...".
Curiousity always gets me to run Quadrant, but having seen varied phones with roller-coaster scores, I know the scores are not really any kind of valid gauge for real world performance.
I'm going to run my phone at stock speeds for the rest of the week and see how it does. I've got a feeling it will be running a lot smoother.
Hello fellow Tab owners,
Since yesterday afternoon I own a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v (GT-P7100). I really liked the device from the start, but was kind of dissapointed on the graphics performance. Whenever I opened the app drawer it wouldn't look smooth at all, sometimes sliding the homescreens would be slow as well...
So I thought that was a Honeycomb issue, then after installing Angry Birds I really felt let down. It was unable to run the game smoothly, while my DesireHD has no trouble at all. Whenever I pulled back one of the birds, or a lot of items were drawn on screen it wouldn't even hit 20FPS (guesstimation).
I went to find out what could cause these troubles, for that I needed my favorite app, SetCPU. I thought the CPU might be stuck on some frequency or something. So I rooted my device, and opened setCPU.
I'm not really a technical guy when it comes to developing for android devices. I am experienced with flashing roms on various phones, so the first thing I noticed was that the scaling was set to Interactive, I haven't seen that ever on any of the devices that I had. So I changed that bit and set it to "Set on Boot", then I did a reboot to be sure and *poof* it was blazing fast. No more delays or lags when opening the app drawer, and it was silky smooth.
Was this really the problem? You tell me, but I thought I'd share this with you since a lot of you seem dissapointed with their gaming speeds. All games run perfect now, Monster Madness runs great, Fruit Ninja, Angry Birds, Dungeon Defenders... All run just fine right now.
Tell me about your experiences
Wait until Honeycomb 3.1.
I read from the Xoom forum, 3.1 really does improve the performance.
Visit the Xoom forum for more info.
gogol said:
Wait until Honeycomb 3.1.
I read from the Xoom forum, 3.1 really does improve the performance.
Visit the Xoom forum for more info.
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I'm sorry, but did you actually read the post at all? :$ I'm trying to get a possible fix for our current 3.0.1 Honeycomb devices. I believe it will be faster with 3.1 but until then this might actually fix some of the lag issues
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Hello fellow Tab owners,
Since yesterday afternoon I own a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v (GT-P7100). I really liked the device from the start, but was kind of dissapointed on the graphics performance. Whenever I opened the app drawer it wouldn't look smooth at all, sometimes sliding the homescreens would be slow as well...
So I thought that was a Honeycomb issue, then after installing Angry Birds I really felt let down. It was unable to run the game smoothly, while my DesireHD has no trouble at all. Whenever I pulled back one of the birds, or a lot of items were drawn on screen it wouldn't even hit 20FPS (guesstimation).
I went to find out what could cause these troubles, for that I needed my favorite app, SetCPU. I thought the CPU might be stuck on some frequency or something. So I rooted my device, and opened setCPU.
I'm not really a technical guy when it comes to developing for android devices. I am experienced with flashing roms on various phones, so the first thing I noticed was that the scaling was set to Interactive, I haven't seen that ever on any of the devices that I had. So I changed that bit and set it to "Set on Boot", then I did a reboot to be sure and *poof* it was blazing fast. No more delays or lags when opening the app drawer, and it was silky smooth.
Was this really the problem? You tell me, but I thought I'd share this with you since a lot of you seem dissapointed with their gaming speeds. All games run perfect now, Monster Madness runs great, Fruit Ninja, Angry Birds, Dungeon Defenders... All run just fine right now.
Tell me about your experiences
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i'm gonna check this on my device tomorrow. i'm also a little bit dissapointed about the performance of the tab, expected it to be much smoother.
could you please provide us with your setcpu settings? thanks
hebbe said:
i'm gonna check this on my device tomorrow. i'm also a little bit dissapointed about the performance of the tab, expected it to be much smoother.
could you please provide us with your setcpu settings? thanks
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Sure I can share my SetCPU settings ...
Min clock: 214MHz
Max clock: 1000MHz
Scaling: ondemand
Set on boot: Checked
Battery life seems solid, haven't really gotten the experience with using the tablet on interactive scaling.
Hey Frico, post a rebuttal video showing how awesome your smoothness is.
even with setCPU in performance mode, I still get major lag in fruit ninja.. and I mean the phone version, not the thd one. however, I do notice the launcher being a bit smoother.
smaskell said:
even with setCPU in performance mode, I still get major lag in fruit ninja.. and I mean the phone version, not the thd one. however, I do notice the launcher being a bit smoother.
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I will upload a video tommorow on how smooth it looks for me. Haven't tested Fruit Ninja non-thd. But in all angry birds versions the difference should be very very clear. Atleast, it was for me.
Right now, I'm off for bed. Keep me posted on all your experiences.
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I will upload a video tommorow on how smooth it looks for me. Haven't tested Fruit Ninja non-thd. But in all angry birds versions the difference should be very very clear. Atleast, it was for me.
Right now, I'm off for bed. Keep me posted on all your experiences.
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thats odd...angry birds plays perfectly fine for me I do have extreme lag in the home screen department though. When i first got it, i didnt have any lag at all with a loaded homescreen. One week later it takes 5 seconds to rotate and its very jittery. Going to try the setcpu settings see if that makes a difference. THanks for the idea
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I will upload a video tommorow on how smooth it looks for me. Haven't tested Fruit Ninja non-thd. But in all angry birds versions the difference should be very very clear. Atleast, it was for me.
Right now, I'm off for bed. Keep me posted on all your experiences.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfNJ8kIblR8
I put up a walkthrough on what I believe to be poor graphics performance on the 10.1 specifically. The Xoom, from what I have personally seen, does not replicate these issues.
bobdude5 said:
thats odd...angry birds plays perfectly fine for me I do have extreme lag in the home screen department though. When i first got it, i didnt have any lag at all with a loaded homescreen. One week later it takes 5 seconds to rotate and its very jittery. Going to try the setcpu settings see if that makes a difference. THanks for the idea
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Hmmm, you know thrre might be a difference be between our software versions. Acording to this post that is the latest version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1083517
My tablet runs on P7100BUKD9, it might be useful to also post version numbers.
Will make a video today.
FricoRico said:
Sure I can share my SetCPU settings ...
Min clock: 214MHz
Max clock: 1000MHz
Scaling: ondemand
Set on boot: Checked
Battery life seems solid, haven't really gotten the experience with using the tablet on interactive scaling.
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thanks for the settings.
i'm also very disappointed about the battery life! please, don't get me wrong, i love this device and i will never ever give it back again! but before my galaxy tab i owned an ipad, and i have to admit that battery life on the ipad is just awesome! more than 10 hours of heavy usage, weeks of standby.
with the galaxy tab i feel like the battery gets empty very fast, you can almost watch the battery indicator go down by every 3 to 4 minutes
and they promise a standby time of about 1000 hours! i don't believe my device will ever get any close to this! my guess is that after 3 days of standby it needs to be charged again.
oxeneers said:
The Xoom, from what I have personally seen, does not replicate these issues.
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Neither Acer Iconia A500 .
Is there a Tegra cpu inside galaxy tab?
Since the day one I think i got a "broken" phone, why? it seems like any rom i install runs slower in my device than in any of you here, i can't oc too much, i always get from 250-450 less points in the benchmarking.
It really frustrates me, yesterday i almost broke (im a pacific man) my phone from a punch, I think I will just install a 2.1 or 2.2 for daily use and let it with just the minimal needed apps, it gets on my nervs too much.
So yeah, if you could share your experience so I can compare...
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Benchmarks =/= Real performance
Edit: I normally score 1000 less then others Yes 1000
Sometimes my phone stops responding for minutes. I get that angry that I flash a different ROM.and it becomes even worse every month I think but hey I just don't care for now. It is not a high end phone.
Today my phone stopped being able to do anything Facebook app is too heavy battery pull is the only way to get it back working but on the other hand I'm typing this now and my phone actually responds like a stock one you'll have to live with that. And benchmarking isn't the world, my CPU scores are getting lower every Mark like grift's ..
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I can relate, i have a p500 optimus t which is a optimus one i guess. Owned it for like 3-4 yrs now just around 3 1/2 4 yrs into owning it i found out i could update it to GB 2.3.3. I did that and i really didnt understand the change other than the look. Plus i was told that my phone wasnt able to be updated from 2.2.2 by the tmobile techs "Well, yea it can bub" lmao but i see many flaws p500 has with speed, i try to understand the roms and now i see the differents, going on youtube and watching people overclock and playing highly rated fps games on the same phone i have...WTF how can i do it. I follow their instructions, but i take it that its not to the T. I still end up unable to overclock it right and not able to match their performance ON THE SAME DARN PHONE!!! So i ended giving up for a while cuz i wanted to throw the phone into the trash but now i can relax cuz im starting to understand it more. :laugh:
Its the cpu degrading i guess.... But now my gt540 has a half dead screen Its lucky yours is still in usable form
Nah, benchmarking was just a way of showing how my cellphone sucks .
Well, I think I will just stay with some 2.1 or 2.2 D:
Dont think that way! You score 400 less and i score 1000 less :good:
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Dont think that way! You score 400 less and i score 1000 less :good:
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Only difference is that you own a SII lol!
I think the thing that is happening to you is because OC has degraded your processor... My phone have 1.5 years old and mantains the same speed and even gets better with newest and more optimized roms (ex. sdsl)+scripts and some tweaks. I don't use OC or swap... I only used a little OC for the first versions of ICS, then nothing. With swap on ICS I feel that my phone is slower than without. Yes, i have less app-kills but restoring apps from swap on sd is too slow (on my class 4 SD card) :/
Nonono i mean my old gt540 I used to use swap on my gt540 o.o class 4 8gb card
yeah i had a gt540 for one year and so far no lagg. i am using stock 2.1 rooted and i reckon stock is the best
rom out there. i havent flashed for a long time so i decided to flash ICS today and see how it goes.
If your phone starts feeling laggy or slow just flash a KDZ rom to it and it will be normal again.
Almost all problems are solved when u flash a KDZ rom.
So I upgraded my X compact to official Nougat 7.0 a couple of days back and on first impressions I noticed some lag here and there mostly when scrolling
And I knew that Snapdragon 650 is almost clos to SD810 so what could be the problem because it was awesomely fluid and smooth on MM 6.0.1, so I started to dig up and here's what I noticed:
In CPUz app on MM it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.8 GHz but today I looked it up and in Nougat it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.4 GHz!!! And if you look at cpu cores, those 2 last core Cpu4 and cpu5 are stopped (i guess those two are [email protected] cores right?)
So conclusion is that A72 cores which are the main core to maintain smoothness are offline for some reason so Im asking developers to dig this up and help us out
Thank you
If there is no activity they should be stopped. My old Xperia M2 usually had only 1 core out of 4 active at the minimum clock. Then sure, if something was running in the background all 4 kicked at the hight clock.
I can't check right now with Nougat (my phone is currently updating to it. But it seems to take an awful lot of time. I think it has been updating for 20 minutes or more. Hopefully it's just updating all Dalvik caches or what they are now), but in Marshmallow all 6 cores were always active even with the CPU nearly idle. In my case I think that helped to cause the somehow high battery drain I had (that and plus wakelocks spamming all time).
But sure, if that means the phone will start lagging, screw it. I could deal with a day of battery life, I sure can't deal (again. And then again and again!) with a keyboard showing up after 1 or more seconds also missing the keys while swiping.
PS: it finally installed. You're right. Something definitively looks wrong with it. The cores 4 & 5 are disabled even with Google Play doing some apps updates. Unless it's because CPU Z isn't supporting Nougat yet. I'll have to investigate more via adb.
PPS: It might be the typical placebo effect but it actually feels even smoother now! So I am not sure what's going on.
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
I don't have those problems....
edit: I HAVE THIS PROBLEM.....
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
Can someone on 7.0 with the Issue use CPU-Z (from google play) and click on "online validation" and share thr link to the CPU information page here, please?
Kianush said:
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
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you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
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you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
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Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
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Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
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I agree with you, and hope in a future update to solve this bug(because it is obviously a bug), but for now I can live with this.... maybe I'm lucky, but I don't have big lags, just a little bit here and there..... hope in future 7.1.1 to solve that....
another thing I notice is a louder speaker sound.....
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I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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I had a customized FR ROM 34.1.A.3.49, I had the Nougat update by OTA.
I made some test with ANTUTU with Nougat ROM, the results are :
- 80160
- 75600
- 74600
- 80780
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag
The laging that comes up after turning on Stamina is waaaay more than the lag that I talked about in OP, of course that is big enough to be seen by anyone!
On android 6.0.1 I didnt see even the smallest lag absolutly nothing! but after the upgrade to 7.0 I was starting to see small lags here and there(you might not even see it! Im very sensitive in this case) like for example when you have 3 notifications try to open notification bar with slow to normal finger swipe down, it lags a little there, and other examples that i said before.
At first i thought maybe the rom is not well optimized but after I saw cpuz I was sure that those cores are off!
On android MM telegram messenger had no lags, nothing! But now it lags a lot when scrolling but i say again this "a lot" is in compariaon to MM! not to Xperia tipo!!!
So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
I created a thread here quoting your first post. Maybe it will get more attention
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ock/td-p/1187152/jump-to/first-unread-message
Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
However I can"t say it lag. It maybe a little longer to charge game or big app but I use them to rarely to compare
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Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
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Same for me, after reboot and used photos, th� where actived and cpu turn at 1.8ghz. 5min after they where disable. I think it depend cpu use. I ve no lag.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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So what you say is that those cores are functioning normally but its juat showing them sleep right?!?
Then please tell me whats the reason on these even small lags?
Those dont matter actually, I need to know why I cant play spiderman unlimited and asphalt 8 on ultra setting like before
You could test them yourself
See 4 a53 1.4GHz are enough for daily usage but on heavy usage its obiouse that those a72 cores are missing
But there is one probibility, that those guys become active on very high usage like antutu! But I guess thats gonna be VERY HIGH!
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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I have exactly the same on Antutu, and the max frequency is 1804 MHz.