Since the day one I think i got a "broken" phone, why? it seems like any rom i install runs slower in my device than in any of you here, i can't oc too much, i always get from 250-450 less points in the benchmarking.
It really frustrates me, yesterday i almost broke (im a pacific man) my phone from a punch, I think I will just install a 2.1 or 2.2 for daily use and let it with just the minimal needed apps, it gets on my nervs too much.
So yeah, if you could share your experience so I can compare...
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Benchmarks =/= Real performance
Edit: I normally score 1000 less then others Yes 1000
Sometimes my phone stops responding for minutes. I get that angry that I flash a different ROM.and it becomes even worse every month I think but hey I just don't care for now. It is not a high end phone.
Today my phone stopped being able to do anything Facebook app is too heavy battery pull is the only way to get it back working but on the other hand I'm typing this now and my phone actually responds like a stock one you'll have to live with that. And benchmarking isn't the world, my CPU scores are getting lower every Mark like grift's ..
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I can relate, i have a p500 optimus t which is a optimus one i guess. Owned it for like 3-4 yrs now just around 3 1/2 4 yrs into owning it i found out i could update it to GB 2.3.3. I did that and i really didnt understand the change other than the look. Plus i was told that my phone wasnt able to be updated from 2.2.2 by the tmobile techs "Well, yea it can bub" lmao but i see many flaws p500 has with speed, i try to understand the roms and now i see the differents, going on youtube and watching people overclock and playing highly rated fps games on the same phone i have...WTF how can i do it. I follow their instructions, but i take it that its not to the T. I still end up unable to overclock it right and not able to match their performance ON THE SAME DARN PHONE!!! So i ended giving up for a while cuz i wanted to throw the phone into the trash but now i can relax cuz im starting to understand it more. :laugh:
Its the cpu degrading i guess.... But now my gt540 has a half dead screen Its lucky yours is still in usable form
Nah, benchmarking was just a way of showing how my cellphone sucks .
Well, I think I will just stay with some 2.1 or 2.2 D:
Dont think that way! You score 400 less and i score 1000 less :good:
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Dont think that way! You score 400 less and i score 1000 less :good:
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Only difference is that you own a SII lol!
I think the thing that is happening to you is because OC has degraded your processor... My phone have 1.5 years old and mantains the same speed and even gets better with newest and more optimized roms (ex. sdsl)+scripts and some tweaks. I don't use OC or swap... I only used a little OC for the first versions of ICS, then nothing. With swap on ICS I feel that my phone is slower than without. Yes, i have less app-kills but restoring apps from swap on sd is too slow (on my class 4 SD card) :/
Nonono i mean my old gt540 I used to use swap on my gt540 o.o class 4 8gb card
yeah i had a gt540 for one year and so far no lagg. i am using stock 2.1 rooted and i reckon stock is the best
rom out there. i havent flashed for a long time so i decided to flash ICS today and see how it goes.
If your phone starts feeling laggy or slow just flash a KDZ rom to it and it will be normal again.
Almost all problems are solved when u flash a KDZ rom.
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My wife's phone runs quadrant standard really slow it takesb like 5 minutes to run with rooted vibrant and lag fix. Plus it's only registering about 750. Please help.
That's normal if you haven't installed a LagFix. Its not a bad thing either, the phone is still plenty fast.
and if you don't want to root and apply the fix, just wait until the froyo update comes out. your numbers then should drastically improve and of course, so should the overall speed.
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My wife's phone runs quadrant standard really slow it takesb like 5 minutes to run with rooted vibrant and lag fix. Plus it's only registering about 750. Please help.
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If you're still getting that low of a score, clearly something went wrong with the fix. I would use odin and restore a stock image and then start over if it were me.
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That's normal if you haven't installed a LagFix. Its not a bad thing either, the phone is still plenty fast.
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That's NOT normal... It never took my Vibrant or my wife's 5 minutes to run the Quadrant tests, before or after the fix.
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My wife's phone runs quadrant standard really slow it takesb like 5 minutes to run with rooted vibrant and lag fix. Plus it's only registering about 750. Please help.
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Which lag fix did you perform cuz the one I performed has my Quadrant scores no lower the 2100? Something went wrong with whatever you did.
Here is what I did with mine and I am now at about 1400 quadrant. I didnt use any lag fix at all. I simply loaded a clean rom copy via oden and then loaded vibrant4. The only change I made was to replace the framework-res.apk file in vibrant4 with the stock one in order to stop the reboots caused by the battery fix.
Thats it been rock solid stable for days now.
So I was running Salvage and now I'm running cm7 nightly 18 and I'm wondering: what's up with my benchmarking being so low? Can't seem to break 41 on Linpack and my quadrant scores are sticking in the low-1000s (they were up around 1300 on a fresh install).
I've seen other people who have had this complaint, and I know benchmarks aren't that important since my phone is running really well, but I want to see some seriously awesome results and I'm wondering if it has something to do with my kernel (savaged-zen), too many widgets on my hoam screen, playing too much ninjump, etc.
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So I was running Salvage and now I'm running cm7 nightly 18 and I'm wondering: what's up with my benchmarking being so low? Can't seem to break 41 on Linpack and my quadrant scores are sticking in the low-1000s (they were up around 1300 on a fresh install).
I've seen other people who have had this complaint, and I know benchmarks aren't that important since my phone is running really well, but I want to see some seriously awesome results and I'm wondering if it has something to do with my kernel (savaged-zen), too many widgets on my hoam screen, playing too much ninjump, etc.
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Highest I broke was about 45 running a toast/net kernel on a sense rom with about 1600 on quads. I break about 41 on cm7 with savagezen. Its really hard to takes scores on the evo serious though they don't mean ish. I also had to delete linpack and quadrant from my phone cause I kept worrying/stressing about scores etc lol. Now I don't download them at all and my life has been great ever since.
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Highest I broke was about 45 running a toast/net kernel on a sense rom with about 1600 on quads. I break about 41 on cm7 with savagezen. Its really hard to takes scores on the evo serious though they don't mean ish. I also had to delete linpack and quadrant from my phone cause I kept worrying/stressing about scores etc lol. Now I don't download them at all and my life has been great ever since.
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Yeah I'm thinking it might start coming to that. I just don't want to be sacrificing performance thanks to having things set up wrong. I'm coming from a Hero where your paltry 4.5 mflops were a true sign that you had your phone organized correctly, and it was going to randomly restart in 8 minutes because you had JIT running.
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Yeah I'm thinking it might start coming to that. I just don't want to be sacrificing performance thanks to having things set up wrong. I'm coming from a Hero where your paltry 4.5 mflops were a true sign that you had your phone organized correctly, and it was going to randomly restart in 8 minutes because you had JIT running.
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+1 I came from the hero also with 4.5 running darchdroid/cm6 lol. It wasn't going to get any better than 4.5 ahh I remember those days man. With the evo I don't recommend taking stock in scores because its just not gonna get any better. My chicks g2 out the box stock(800mhz) is 1550 on quads and like 60 on linpack lol of course w/ help of their newer processors. Our evos are kind of maxed out I guess you could say. Jit doesn't help much its only keeping our apps warm and ready not really effecting scores much. I'd say what were getting now is about the best man. I still love my evo and hopefully it will last until my upgrade this September when newer phones are out.
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+1 I came from the hero also with 4.5 running darchdroid/cm6 lol. It wasn't going to get any better than 4.5 ahh I remember those days man. With the evo I don't recommend taking stock in scores because its just not gonna get any better. My chicks g2 out the box stock(800mhz) is 1550 on quads and like 60 on linpack lol of course w/ help of their newer processors. Our evos are kind of maxed out I guess you could say. Jit doesn't help much its only keeping our apps warm and ready not really effecting scores much. I'd say what were getting now is about the best man. I still love my evo and hopefully it will last until my upgrade this September when newer phones are out.
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Man I was planning on upgrading in May but I got bit by the Sprint Premium downgrade, and all the sudden my upgrade turned into "use it or lose it" by April 1. I'd much rather be stuck with the EVO for 2 years than the Hero for another year. That poor little phone just doesn't cut it anymore. Right now I'm trying to figure out how I can get a full upgrade next year, or perhaps just get a new phone for Christmas, which is about the time I'll be sick of the EVO.
Still, for now I'm loving this thing. It's like going from an '88 Accord to a 2010 Cadillac.
I'm thinking of buying this in August or sometime near that month and I have seen various reviews regarding this phone. It's very cheap and well worth the price. Since full custom roms can be flashed, exactly how much faster can you make the Blade? It's clock speed stock is 600Mhz, how much can you safely overclock too without heating problems or too many reboots? How much faster in general?
mine doesn't overclock that much i use 672mhz and would only get a reboot once in 2-3 weeks i can overclock to 710mhz but get reboots twice a day, but as with all overclocking it's different on different devices, some people have said they get 768 with no reboots
Yeah it really depends on your phone. Personally, I don't think it makes it much faster. I think 650MHz-700MHz is the sweet spot to avoid reboots and not create too much heat.
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Yeah it really depends on your phone. Personally, I don't think it makes it much faster. I think 650MHz-700MHz is the sweet spot to avoid reboots and not create too much heat.
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agree.
how fast your proc can go is really depend on your chip, because every chip is unique.
some can stable at 710Mhz, some even can stable at 800Mhz.
just reading this, iv had a pulse, a wildfire and now a blade, all of them i cant go over 710mhz lol
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And keep in mind that overclocking has a huge impact on battery life
@ Will
Seems you have very bad luck.
you wouldnt believe it lol, even my scroll tablet is supposed to rin at 800mhz but its been set at 720 lol, im using wbaw rom now and its set at 600mhz, tho i cant complain cause its really good
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Yeah, overclocking hardly makes much difference in terms of performance.
Just wondering what you are all clocked at
and if stable.
Currently at 1.4 myself and running smooth
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I don't even know how to overclock it. Does one need a custom ROM for that or does the stock one suffice? Not that it really matters, I mostly just read comics or books or watch movies on my tablet, none of which needs that much CPU.
Greece during the summer can get quite hot, so it's definitely not a friendly place for overclockers, even desktop rigs can feel the extra heat, so for me, overclocking will not happen for another 3 months minimum. Even now, at stock 3.1 the tablet can get pretty hot when playing some HD games.
I'm sure only root is required but I agree - pushing the cores for nothing more than reading, watching movies or playing already tablet optimized games seems like a pointless endeavor and certainly dangerous to the long term health of the tablet.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I am happily running mine @ 1.6 and very stable with no fc. Did have it higher @ 1.7 but had major problems with reeboots. Benchmark above taken with current rom @1.6
Try "StabilityTest" from the Market to see what your device can handle.
Mine ran 2 hours without problems on 1.5GHz but crashed after 17mins on 1.6GHz.
Running the tablet at 1.5GHz makes a big difference, everything is much more responsive and the browser is way faster.
Can you suggest me the right app to overclock my iconia? And what I have to do to set that apps? I had some doubts with options like "interactive, on demand, ...etc". Which one could give a little bit of stability? I can't find any guide on the internet to understand what these settings change, and which one is the better way to optimize our tablet.
setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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Not sure setcpu works on both cores.
Use the virtuous method it is a new way to overclock and it is faster than using any app...
Lets face it anyone running a rom I am sure it is virtuous something
Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
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Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
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You are welcome, if you do it right you will love the difference. I use the galaxy Rom tried the 3.2 xoom. But galaxy tab Rom is so nice and very smooth
Goodluck.
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just in case people doesnt know
the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
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overclocking does not give you that much improvement...
for sure optimized kernel with slight overclock are running smother than the stock stuck at 1GHz but.... when people are crying to have not enought battery... why overclocking ???? the things who use more battery is the SOC and the SCREEN....
I run for now Stock 4.010.24 with Stock Kernel (I will go back to custom firwmare when all will be ok and stable)
games are running perfectly... when they are dev for the tegra
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the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
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What the hell are you babbling about and what does that even have to do with the discussion?
I don't even know if I understand you correctly since you're not even trying to make coherent sentences, but if you're referring to components on the motherboard being loose then there's WAY better ways of fixing that than throwing the whole thing in an oven of any kind. You should NEVER fry the whole motherboard just to fix one or two components that are loose, instead just apply a heatgun on those specific components. Besides, AFAIK none of the issues with A500 are related to loose parts...
His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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My english is not high but I think I was clear, proof someone understand what I was speaking about.
I forgot the most important
ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore can go between 800Mhz and 2Ghz if someone find a way to cool it, well maybe the tablet will go until 2Ghz (reducing the battery life a lot, something near of the W500 ..._)
my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
Is the phone actually slower? Or just scoring lower scores?
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Benchmarks mean nothing
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That was going to be my next statement.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
thanks for the info fellow xdaers,,,,,
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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Actually I had the opposite experience. My original phone wouldn't boot with the clemsyn kernel. My digitizer bombed and I received a refurbished unit from repairs. The new unit runs the clemsyn kernel just fine. So I guess it's just the luck of the draw...
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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As tob said, those "so verry little script" can makes big differences sometimes
I would like to add my personal toughts, for me, the ROM actually scoring higher and higher and feel a litle bit more freshier each week past within the ROM... so my thoughts would be, the cache partition, the more longer the rom is implemented, the more score you'll get cause the cache slowly become bigger and bigger giving you full power to open something tough!
As for the battery, from my experiences, you can't really judge a battery life while you just flashed a rom, you got to wait until the first week to see if there a big changes between the other ROM you came from ... so my guess would be, those scripts and the longer the ROM is implemented on your phone, the more fast and stable it will get, and you will feel the power slowly coming out again!
My bad if I'm completely wrong, but it is my guess!
Hood luck with your "new" phone
i brought up some old Antutu scores and notice that my ram. cpu integar and floating point scores are extremely low. i have tried multiple kernels but still no change. now i am even more confused......doesn't take much. could it be that my cpu is locked so i can not overclock. it kinda feels like its only utilizing one core.
after weeks of exhaustive searching i finally found a fix that worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649
pdsfix.zip
now my antutu scores are back up to around 7000. less lag in app drawer and opening /closing certain app. its back to silky smooth yeehaw.