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Great phone but needs serious update...

hi all.
I have this phone 3rd day now and here are issues I discovered while using it.
It is a great phone,but needs serious update from guys in HTC.
-Navigation feature is utterly useless.it is so damn slow.in compass mode it is showing wrong direction.also I miss footprints implementation with Google maps.I know,you can open certain footprint in GM but I meant full support.this is only my suggestion but all in all navigation app is horrible and I think once used,it slows the DHD down.
-Sometimes it lags like hell.at least for me.I have installed only apps I've used before on old Desire and there I had no problems with slowdowns or lag.I am using app from market called "SystemPanel".basically it shows all your phone activities an running processes.it can also monitor phone performance over time.this app is showing that every time I wake up DHD CPU usage rises to 100% and stays there until I switch screen back off.then it drops to almost nothing.unfortunately it doesn't show which processes are using this much resources.this app always pointed me to the right direction when I was tracking down defective apps.i have already emailed the developer about this.it could be compatibility issue with this app and new DHD.it also shows that right after reboot almost 75% of RAM is in use.really?this phone has a huge RAM and if this is correct reading,than HTC did a lot of bad coding while making this new Soft.after some time of use my DHD becomes sluggish and lags a lot.I got rid of Samsung Galaxy S because of it's lag issue.I never had any similar problems on old Desire and it has much smaller RAM and was running on 2.1!
-Sync function is a bitt dogy as well.it takes ages to sync all the accounts and it took few attempts to sync with my Google account.I've seen someone posting about this,so I know I am not the only one with this problem.this brings me to all new
-htcsense.com.nothing seems to work right.at least for me.and this was one of the most highlighted features when this phone was announced.
-Camera software is not what I expected.I doubt it is hardware problem.it is just poorly programmed.in low-light conditions quality simply sucks.and I just don't understand why camcorder cannot work on higher frame rate.
-flash support is not that good too.If you select option in browser to "always use" after a while of browsing od flash sites phone gets so slow reboot is needed.after such a long time Adobe still cannot make proper mobile version.that is a fail by me especially when these days mobile devices are in almost everyone pocket and are widely used for web browsing.
That's about it.sorry that you had to read such long post,but that's my DHD experience so far.
My point is that guys un HTC software kitchen should sit down and fix this IMO rushed release and give as an proper update.until then this is great hardware being hold hostage by poor software.it is unacceptable for phone with such specs to be performing like this.
Come on HTC.we know you can do better.
Please share your experience too...

I agree. I've gotvl the very same issue. I would really like to use stock android 2.2 like my old n1 waiting for a very necessary update
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Endr1 said:
I agree. I've gotvl the very same issue. I would really like to use stock android 2.2 like my old n1 waiting for a very necessary update
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stock ROM is one solution.but i enjoyed HTC Sence on Desire.i hope they wil fix this one.
thx for confirming.at least i know i am not the only one with this problems.

I swapped out htc sense for launcherpro and also stopped all the syncing that htc sense requires like facebook for sense, twitter for sense, htc sense, stocks, news and weather.
I then set profiles within setcpu to allow for performance when the screen is on while scaling back the processor whilst the screen is off.
Installed spare parts and sped up some of the animations and bam! my desire hd is as fast as my nexus one was with CM6 with over-clocked kernel and all the lag has disappeared. I also have over 30 apps I have installed myself.
The problem with flash I'm sure will be fixed sometime, everyone is experiencing this slow down.

teihoata said:
I swapped out htc sense for launcherpro and also stopped all the syncing that htc sense requires like facebook for sense, twitter for sense, htc sense, stocks, news and weather.
I then set profiles within setcpu to allow for performance when the screen is on while scaling back the processor whilst the screen is off.
Installed spare parts and sped up some of the animations and bam! my desire hd is as fast as my nexus one was with CM6 with over-clocked kernel and all the lag has disappeared. I also have over 30 apps I have installed myself.
The problem with flash I'm sure will be fixed sometime, everyone is experiencing this slow down.
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i have purchased LauncherPro before.did not want to go down that road,but i think i will swap Sense for this launcher for a while to see how it performs.

Endr1 said:
I agree. I've gotvl the very same issue. I would really like to use stock android 2.2 like my old n1 waiting for a very necessary update
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Does the lagging also occur when your're running stock? Do you use a task killer?
My phone has no programs with lag!
Oops sorry my post was a question to the OP

Black1982 said:
Does the lagging also occur when your're running stock? Do you use a task killer?
My phone has no programs with lag!
Oops sorry my post was a question to the OP
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i don,t know what you mean by "running stock".
and no.i don't use any task killer.don't think it is needed in Froyo.

Ive found a lot of the slow down is from programs starting up and starting in the ram most I found from htc :/ I've used root and a auto memory manger (one that uses the system, not an app killer) and now my phone runs great next step is full root and a custom rom to fully cut out the bloat : D
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Have you people who are suffering from performance problems installed the OTA update? It was supposed to fix some performance issues IIRC. My DHD is blazingly fast and i have around 100 apps installed. I run SystemPanel too and haven't seen any high cpu use.
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Unfortunately I have to agree as well. Lags the whole time, ages to load the picture gallery with about 200 photos. But the worst thing, it is not supporting ActiveSync with Exchange 2010, for me incredible! I feel like on HD2 at the beginning, great hardware but bad software. On DHD I was sure that the software must be better but it is disappointing. I never had such lags on the HD2 even with the worst ROMs. I am also a bit diasappointed from the home screen. On HD2 with Co0kie home tab I had a lot of more information as I have now. The Market, for me the biggest improvement, is not really working since the begining, needs 20 retry to download a 1 MB app. I am sure HTC will fix most of the software problems but currently it is disappointing.

Antlink said:
Ive found a lot of the slow down is from programs starting up and starting in the ram most I found from htc :/ I've used root and a auto memory manger (one that uses the system, not an app killer) and now my phone runs great next step is full root and a custom rom to fully cut out the bloat : D
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i will give this a go.
it is a shame that in the end i have to get rid of HTC software.i know some may not agree with me but i like HTC's software.i loved what they did since i had my old Touch Pro.Manila made that phone different from others that time and ever since i was buying HTC phones for their innovative approach.i cannot believe they screwed up so much this time.but i've seen them fixing their mistakes before so i still have hope.

berek9999 said:
Have you people who are suffering from performance problems installed the OTA update? It was supposed to fix some performance issues IIRC. My DHD is blazingly fast and i have around 100 apps installed. I run SystemPanel too and haven't seen any high cpu use.
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yes.i applied OTA as a first thing after first boot.before i set up any account sync or installed any software.
EDIT: I got DHD after the OTA was released.

polystirenman said:
i don,t know what you mean by "running stock".
and no.i don't use any task killer.don't think it is needed in Froyo.
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I meant "out of the box" I'm asking because you seem to point to the HTC software as the culprit for your lag problems, but it is not so clear to me why you come to this conclusion. I also use CPU monitoring aps, and my CPU load is mostly 0%. So how do you know it's not another app? Did you do a reboot? what happened after that.
I know it is not needed to run a Task killer, but it could be the reason for your lag, that's why I asked.

Maybe it needs gingerbread
Having said that, there is already report gingerbread will be out (on at least one handset) on 8th Nov. I m not convinced HTC will update DHD to Gingerbread for at least a few month given their track record with the past model. There will probably be only 1 update for the life time of DHD.

Is launcher pro a valid alternative to the sense? I mean will use more power and drain my battery faster? To use the memory manager should you get root? With Paul's visionary?
I am not giving up on sense just yet but I would like to know if there are alternatives...
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Black1982 said:
I meant "out of the box" I'm asking because you seem to point to the HTC software as the culprit for your lag problems, but it is not so clear to me why you come to this conclusion. I also use CPU monitoring aps, and my CPU load is mostly 0%. So how do you know it's not another app? Did you do a reboot? what happened after that.
I know it is not needed to run a Task killer, but it could be the reason for your lag, that's why I asked.
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well i noticed this after a few first hours of using DHD.that was before and after i added 3rd party software.the main reasons why i think that the cause of this lag is HTC software are...
-after a while of using Navigation app phone started to lag
-if i add navigation widget and then i navigate to that page on the home screen there is almost instant lag.
-it is not only Navigation app but some others too.like friend stream,htc peep etc.this apps worked fine on old Desire.i was using them on daily basis so i am sure.
-almost every other non HTC app i use runs smooth.
-when i sync my Gmail only,it is just fine.but if i use HTC sync all widget it is just painfully slow and it is slowing down the whole phone.
can you please recommend me an CPU monitor app you are using?so i can check my DHD with it.

Market is down.
The app is system panel and costs 3$.
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Endr1 said:
Market is down.
The app is system panel and costs 3$.
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i stated in my first post that this is an app i am using to monitor my phone.
problem is,it is showing me constant 100% CPU usage while phone is on but it doesn't show which app is responsible for this being such i high value.SystemPanel always worked without a problem for me and i always found defective apps with it.but in this case i have no idea how to track it down.SystemPanel simply doesn't see it or registering it.confused here a bit...

polystirenman said:
i stated in my first post that this is an app i am using to monitor my phone.
problem is,it is showing me constant 100% CPU usage while phone is on but it doesn't show which app is responsible for this being such i high value.SystemPanel always worked without a problem for me and i always found defective apps with it.but in this case i have no idea how to track it down.SystemPanel simply doesn't see it or registering it.confused here a bit...
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SystemPanel works fine for me and usually shows < 10% cpu. Maybe you have something installed that's not fully compatible with the new Sense that is causing the problem? It seems there is a genuine problem here with quite a few people reporting it. The difficult bit is working out what it is of course since it's not affecting everyone.
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polystirenman said:
i stated in my first post that this is an app i am using to monitor my phone.
problem is,it is showing me constant 100% CPU usage while phone is on but it doesn't show which app is responsible for this being such i high value.SystemPanel always worked without a problem for me and i always found defective apps with it.but in this case i have no idea how to track it down.SystemPanel simply doesn't see it or registering it.confused here a bit...
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Try OSmonitor, in settings you can set it to show processes according to CPU load etc. I also use that app for looking at differnt logs eg. battery logs.
Perhaps you can also try SeePU for showing CPU and RAM usage in your notification bar! I like that I can see what's going on!
I'm trying to replicate yor problems using Navigation and Friendstream, but it doesn't slow down. You didn't install the youtube update by any chance?

Chrome Browser Problem

Hello,
I have this problem with the Chrome browser on my Nexus 10. Basically, it happens a lot. What happens is that after a tab loads and I switch to a new tab, when I switch back to the previous tab, it just automatically reloads? Then I switch to another one and it automatically reloads too. What's going on? Anyone know what's up?
Thanks,
Crazysah

Crazysah said:
I have this problem with the Chrome browser on my Nexus 10. Basically, it happens a lot. What happens is that after a tab loads and I switch to a new tab, when I switch back to the previous tab, it just automatically reloads? Then I switch to another one and it automatically reloads too. What's going on? Anyone know what's up?
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Sounds like you are low on memory. The tabs will not be kept if you run out of memory, so they will need to reload when you return to them.

I'm definitely not on low memory. Only installed like 20 apps on a brand new Nexus 10. Has to be something else.

I'm still having this problem. Anyone know the solution?

I see what you mean now, you're right. It does reload sometimes when it doesn't seen like it needs need to. Just a buggy app I guess. You using the beta?

It should never reload unless it has been a very long time or the site forces it too. I'm using the April 3rd update.

Still experiencing this? Any ideas guys?

Crazysah said:
I'm definitely not on low memory. Only installed like 20 apps on a brand new Nexus 10. Has to be something else.
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Don't confuse memory with space available on sdcard.
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I'm pretty sure I'm not on low memory either. How do I check that?

Crazysah said:
I'm pretty sure I'm not on low memory either. How do I check that?
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Are you stock, or running a ROM?
Generally, though, the recent apps implementation will show how much ram is left.

I'm on stock. Just installed like twenty apps and two wallpapers and that's about it really.

Crazysah said:
I'm on stock. Just installed like twenty apps and two wallpapers and that's about it really.
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Again, this really doesn't have any correlation to how much ram is in use. Given that the GPU takes up even more ram after the last update, the user is only able to use about 1.23gb. Depending on how many of those apps you have open, the system could feel like it is low.
Personally, I have swtiched away from using the Chrome beta, even though I miss the sync across multiple devices.

Free ram....I think the app OS monitor can show you this. Of course there is also the argument that free ram is wasted ram on Android.
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I have about 760MB of free RAM and I still have this problem.
Exactly the same as this problem: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=171316

Crazysah said:
I have about 760MB of free RAM and I still have this problem.
Exactly the same as this problem: crbug.com/171316
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I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about this problem, it is the biggest issue for me on the Nexus 10. I reported that bug on the Chromium bug tracker. I encourage everyone here to sign in to the bug tracker with your google account and star that thread. You don't need to add your own comment, unless you can help debug the problem, simply starring it will show that you care about this issue. Hopefully, the more people star it, the more urgency this issue gets from them.
This is a problem with every Android browser, as far as I can tell, except perhaps Opera Mini, haven't tried that one. It's because of the way Android handles memory: I can reproduce it with Firefox also, just after opening more tabs. Hopefully, the Chromium devs can do something about it. I wonder if the iPad and iOS have similar issues with web browsing, anyone know?

Crazysah said:
Hello,
I have this problem with the Chrome browser on my Nexus 10. Basically, it happens a lot. What happens is that after a tab loads and I switch to a new tab, when I switch back to the previous tab, it just automatically reloads? Then I switch to another one and it automatically reloads too. What's going on? Anyone know what's up?
Thanks,
Crazysah
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I'm dubious as to whether the problem is Chrome on your tablet, or just Chrome for android in general. Its really not all that great, especially compared to Dolphin and AOSP.
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nexus 4 battery life after 4.3 update ?

so let's get to the bottom of the nexus battery life issue. How long is your nexus 4 battery life after 4.3 updated get or last , whether it set to default setting of the device itself or with a minimum setting such a display brightness level, silent profile, etc ?
and do you know how long you need to get your phone fully charged from empty using original n4 charger ? any trick or possible way to charge the phone itself faster ?
I'm just wondering and should I get nexus 4 or moto x ? but F***, I hate when that beautiful phone has been locked by carrier and has a bloatware since I'm a heavy multitask user and most of the time spend his time with browser and apps and whatsapp messenger .
sorry for my bad word but really hoping your honest review for the n4 battery life after 4.3 .
did you get 8 hours if you keep playing with it and also keep turn on and turn off your phone every 10-15 minutes while you're walking or hang out with your friends ?

banboy said:
so let's get to the bottom of the nexus battery life issue. How long is your nexus 4 battery life after 4.3 updated get or last , whether it set to default setting of the device itself or with a minimum setting such a display brightness level, silent profile, etc ?
and do you know how long you need to get your phone fully charged from empty using original n4 charger ? any trick or possible way to charge the phone itself faster ?
I'm just wondering and should I get nexus 4 or moto x ? but F***, I hate when that beautiful phone has been locked by carrier and has a bloatware since I'm a heavy multitask user and most of the time spend his time with browser and apps and whatsapp messenger .
sorry for my bad word but really hoping your honest review for the n4 battery life after 4.3 .
did you get 8 hours if you keep playing with it and also keep turn on and turn off your phone every 10-15 minutes while you're walking or hang out with your friends ?
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Some custom kernels like for instance Franco Kernel support fast charging if you are rooted. If i we`re you and you can i would wait for the Nexus 5 that will come out in a few months. The N4 is very cheap atm and batterylife isn`t bad at all. Also depends on user usage and installed apps/widgets and syncing.

gee2012 said:
Some custom kernels like for instance Franco Kernel support fast charging if you are rooted. If i we`re you and you can i would wait for the Nexus 5 that will come out in a few months. The N4 is very cheap atm and batterylife isn`t bad at all. Also depends on user usage and installed apps/widgets and syncing.
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thx Gee for the input, appreciate that, and is that the reason why google cut off nexus 4 price ? I can wait but in my head now nexus 4 or N5 or moto x ? but moto x sucks I hate because it's bundled and belong to carrier. that's really really sucks don't you think,

banboy said:
thx Gee for the input, appreciate that, and is that the reason why google cut off nexus 4 price ? I can wait but in my head now nexus 4 or N5 or moto x ? but moto x sucks I hate because it's bundled and belong to carrier. that's really really sucks don't you think,
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The Nexus 4 is a great phone, you will not regret buying it. Sold my Galaxy S4 because of the lags and stuttering software. Also the N4 will get KLP Android 5.0 soon also after the release of the Nexus 5.

gee2012 said:
Some custom kernels like for instance Franco Kernel support fast charging if you are rooted. If i we`re you and you can i would wait for the Nexus 5 that will come out in a few months. The N4 is very cheap atm and batterylife isn`t bad at all. Also depends on user usage and installed apps/widgets and syncing.
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gee2012 said:
The Nexus 4 is a great phone, you will not regret buying it. Sold my Galaxy S4 because of the lags and stuttering software. Also the N4 will get KLP Android 5.0 soon also after the release of the Nexus 5.
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whatttt ? you sold your s4 ? how come? I mean and I thought it's great phone, and the time when you feel lagging is the phone is rooted or factory default ?
thank you for your honest opinion cause I know nexus 4 is not great like high end phone such as like htc one but the reason is I wanna get n4 because it has no bloatware and it's the pure android and I'm so happy the carrier didn't put any their apps into that phone.
anyway, nexus 5 will be using LG again? my friend told me will be similar like LG G2

You might start laughing but I just ordered a Nexus 4 to get a feel. If I like it, it might replace my HTC One and when the 5 comes out, it might replace my Note 2.
I'm a plain vanilla user (plain Android no rooting or nothing) and slowly am getting sick of the Wifi, lag and other problems all other phones have.
I got this idea since I switched to the Nexus 10 and noticed that there's maybe less bells and whistles but the thing works very well.
Let's see...
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banboy said:
whatttt ? you sold your s4 ? how come? I mean and I thought it's great phone, and the time when you feel lagging is the phone is rooted or factory default ?
thank you for your honest opinion cause I know nexus 4 is not great like high end phone such as like htc one but the reason is I wanna get n4 because it has no bloatware and it's the pure android and I'm so happy the carrier didn't put any their apps into that phone.
anyway, nexus 5 will be using LG again? my friend told me will be similar like LG G2
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You say nexus 4 is not high end? Dafuq
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Thibaultvw said:
You say nexus 4 is not high end? Dafuq
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aww, sorry about that, but I'm curious , how nexus 5 will be look like ? and bigger screen ?

Thibaultvw said:
You say nexus 4 is not high end? Dafuq
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Tonio78370 said:
You might start laughing but I just ordered a Nexus 4 to get a feel. If I like it, it might replace my HTC One and when the 5 comes out, it might replace my Note 2.
I'm a plain vanilla user (plain Android no rooting or nothing) and slowly am getting sick of the Wifi, lag and other problems all other phones have.
I got this idea since I switched to the Nexus 10 and noticed that there's maybe less bells and whistles but the thing works very well.
Let's see...
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you replace your htc one with nexus 4 ? how come ? is your htc one is google play edition ?

If you think about it the Nexus 4 has the same CPU settings as the S4 and HTC One the only category that it loses in is screen resolution.
Of course the other two phones have more better technology but when it comes to software wise the Nexus 4 will be right up there with them
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you replace your htc one with nexus 4 ? how come ? is your htc one is google play edition ?
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I seriously think about it. It's not a Google Edition and I'm fed up with all the little things that just don't work. I have the impression that all these overlays (touchwiz and whatever they're called) only cause malfunctioning. My HTC is my business phone so changing it for the Nexus, I'll quickly know what pure android is worth.
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talking about pure android that coming from nexus , do we have to clean cache or apps cache from the setting itself every once a week ? such a browser cache , and any other apps cache that we can found from settings-apps-(click random apps icon)- clean cache , ?
I'm confuse and I'm sorry to bring this up such an iPhone we don't have to worry about this cache thing or cache that coming from apps and there's no feature in iPhone like clean cache apps that we need to worry about . (and once again sorry comparing this with apple stuff )
so back to the problem since I'm only talking about google product should we be worry about apps cache ? maybe that's also the reason why the phone can be lagging because too many cache from the apps itself that we didn't notice or care enough to clean it up every once a week ? or by the system default is there any feature that the system will clean the cache that coming from 3rd party apps, background apps (all apps that running in the background). Cause I got paranoid and confuse what should I do , that's why I also install advanced task killer and always set them to high priority and every 30 minutes kill all apps to make sure this phone will always have a room for RAM.
but please correct me if I'm wrong , thank you

Using PA 3.99 and faux enhanced stock kernel I still have ~80% battery left after over 8 hours of use (using the phone every 10-15 mins or so). I always use automatic brightness set to medium. Not too sure what "battery life issue" you are trying to get to the bottom of.
As for the task killers/ cache cleaners, there's really no point. All you are really doing is making your phone work harder to do nothing at all. You should be thinking of unused RAM as wasted RAM. If your phone needs more RAM to run something it will free some up as needed. The task killers are really just using more RAM and battery.
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cameron3200 said:
Using PA 3.99 and faux enhanced stock kernel I still have ~80% battery left after over 8 hours of use (using the phone every 10-15 mins or so). I always use automatic brightness set to medium. Not too sure what "battery life issue" you are trying to get to the bottom of.
As for the task killers/ cache cleaners, there's really no point. All you are really doing is making your phone work harder to do nothing at all. You should be thinking of unused RAM as wasted RAM. If your phone needs more RAM to run something it will free some up as needed. The task killers are really just using more RAM and battery.
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thank you for enlighten me .

cameron3200 said:
Using PA 3.99 and faux enhanced stock kernel I still have ~80% battery left after over 8 hours of use (using the phone every 10-15 mins or so). I always use automatic brightness set to medium. Not too sure what "battery life issue" you are trying to get to the bottom of.
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sorry, but what do you mean by PA 3.99 ? and faux ? is it hard to change the kernel for a beginner or a person didn't know how to rooted or modified any kernel ? and also modified kernel or changing the kernel, is that gonna affected to the device to become unstable ? and I believe changing the kernel is coming from unofficial google, am I right ?

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How to : iOS like Power Management on Android (Galaxy S4)

Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.

Turn off all sync and backup features. Turn off all location reporting features. Greenify persistent apps.
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Buy an iphone

KiranNokia said:
Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
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try greenify...
Dig xda,there's official thread
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Nreigota said:
Buy an iphone
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Ha Ha, Appreciate your suggestion and you know what would be my reply...
Cheers,
KiK

anu.cool said:
try greenify...
Dig xda,there's official thread
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Hi,
I did try Greenify, and its like everytime the apps needs to be manually force stopped after use, thats a bit wierd, and to take the full advantage, the phone needs to be rooted. As rooting voids the warranty, it wont be a good idea.
Cheers,
KiK

So I assume you have i9500 version with no good custom roms.
Without customs roms you cant do much.

KiranNokia said:
Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
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In android , we have numerous background processes which obviously drains the battery. If you can reduce these processes then u would have a better battery backup. Background processes of iOS n Android are completely different so dont compare it. Rooting is the best way to gain control of your device.

Mandark52 said:
In android , we have numerous background processes which obviously drains the battery. If you can reduce these processes then u would have a better battery backup. Background processes of iOS n Android are completely different so dont compare it. Rooting is the best way to gain control of your device.
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Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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+1 on that situ always keep a spare on you as a backup

gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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Two batteries may result into caliberation issues. Its better to buy a power pack instead of extra battery.
Sent from OCTA CORE I9500.

Mandark52 said:
Two batteries may result into caliberation issues. Its better to buy a power pack instead of extra battery.
Sent from OCTA CORE I9500.
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Not really as long as you use original samsung instead of eBay £3 versions ?? No calibration probs on any batteries here

11calcal said:
Not really as long as you use original samsung instead of eBay £3 versions ?? No calibration probs on any batteries here
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Well u ll get to know about the caliberation issues after months.I had SGA S5830 with an extra battery n faced caliberation issues, SGA ws completely on stock n unrooted. N its logical that if someone is investing 34k in S4 then why would he buy a £3 eBay battery!
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diper07 said:
So I assume you have i9500 version with no good custom roms.
Without customs roms you cant do much.
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Hi Pal,
Ya, I know, and about Custom rom , I am no longer interested at the moment, got to play enough with my Galaxy S+ and Custom ROM, so advantage and disadvantages are very much aware now . With my S4, I dont want to root it or flash Custom ROMs, I was trying to find a way without affecting the official ROM. Trying some workaround, shall let you knw if it works.
Cheers,
KiK

gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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Hi Smith,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, I wouldn't recommend that option when you have to do Opening , change battery and closing the back cover on a daily basis, that doesn't look good isn't it? fine, the other option, adding a double capacity battery, aaaah., Considering the shame that brings for you , when someone says, what the heck you're doing with this soap box ( that much bulky it is) , you would rather wish let the phone be switched off better. ,
Okey fine, I have done a work around , which is not perfect as iOS, but some what near.
What I did was, thanks to the kitkat update, which allows you to turn off all most all of the services (including google services) and all the samsung service (most of them), I have turned off all the Samsung service, which I felt not needed (may be S planner and S memo , may used, keep those), and turned off all the unwanted google services, ( games,newstand, play music) ... I did turn off, so anytime it can be turned off, so that fine.
Now, the result! Initial analysis found to be good, I am now getting 10+ hrs, where as before it was 6hrs, (That too on Wifi/3G, without turning off the extra features, air view and other smart features)
No Crashing, No Lag, and about all the main thing I wanted, it drains a very little when it sleeps, almost like iOS now ( yes, iOS drains almost nothing during sleep ) .
100 to 96% after 8hrs during sleep, its good I would say.
Still I could do nothing about SAMOLED Screen and Voice call, which found to be the main battery eater.
Let's see if something new comes to save in Android 4.5 /or 5, which ever the upcoming version is.
Cheers,
KiK

Question about RAM usage

Hey guys, I hope you're all doing well.
My question is why in my RN7 that hast 4gb of RAM, there is alway at least 1.5GB free? I also noticed it in a friend's phone that have 3GB and with 1 or 2 GB free, I wouln't mind if my phone usage was low, but almost always it has to reload the apps that were opened before the 3rd or 4th most recent. I dont know if I'm making any sense but the RAM usage shouldn't be almost 100%?
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Is that for what u ask?

That's exactly what I mean, the RAM is free but several apps have to be reloaded after a while.
Edit: I think I found an answer, I suppose is the battery optimizer that closes apps after a while, if anyone knows about this, please confirm.

2Gb free here. On latest RevOS MIUI.

I'm not worried about using 2 of 4gigs, is the contrary, I want to use all the gigs so my apps don't reload too often and are ready to use

Psicovirus said:
I'm not worried about using 2 of 4gigs, is the contrary, I want to use all the gigs so my apps don't reload too often and are ready to use
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Linux don't work like windows.
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/mm/index.html
https://serversuit.com/community/technical-tips/view/how-does-linux-handle-ram.html

Psicovirus said:
I'm not worried about using 2 of 4gigs, is the contrary, I want to use all the gigs so my apps don't reload too often and are ready to use
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Change app battery saver of particular app to no restrictions and lock the app in recents. Maybe it'll not kill the app.

!!!!!!!Root2!!!!!! said:
Change app battery saver of particular app to no restrictions and lock the app in recents. Maybe it'll not kill the app.
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After a bit of usage, this is the answer I was looking for, I was not used to have a task killer built into the phone OS by default, doing what you said did the trick for me, thanks!