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[Q] To root or not to root ^^

so i have my galaxy s4 and I am not sure if i should root or not ^^ my biggest problem is the battery life .....
like for example how much can i increase my battery life with for example cyanogenmod 10.1 and Adam kernel ( or if theres a better one.....)
now i get https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5dh67d66c9r08j/2013-05-31 17.22.54.png
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/xzyoseed3isuh4s/2013-05-31 17.23.00.png .....
i already ordered a second battery with charger from amazon but it will arrive my doorstep on june 27 so.... yeah ^^
how much screen on time can i get on normal days... ( i use mobile internet for whatsapp, facebook, browsing and sometimes youtube... thats it)
i do not play much games, so i could eaysily underclock am i right? ^^

UsEr313131 said:
so i have my galaxy s4 and I am not sure if i should root or not ^^ my biggest problem is the battery life .....
like for example how much can i increase my battery life with for example cyanogenmod 10.1 and Adam kernel ( or if theres a better one.....)
now i get https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5dh67d66c9r08j/2013-05-31 17.22.54.png
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/xzyoseed3isuh4s/2013-05-31 17.23.00.png .....
i already ordered a second battery with charger from amazon but it will arrive my doorstep on june 27 so.... yeah ^^
how much screen on time can i get on normal days... ( i use mobile internet for whatsapp, facebook, browsing and sometimes youtube... thats it)
i do not play much games, so i could eaysily underclock am i right? ^^
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Hi,
Look HERE
Some battery saving tips.

Congrats on your S4, although I have to ask, why did you buy it?
Battery life isn't much of an issue for me, in the end it doesn't really matter since you can easily swap the battery out for a spare one. I usually carry my charger with me when I go to work and stuff, I just try not to think about the battery life too much. In the end, there isn't a single phone on the market with specs like these that has awesome battery life. Sometimes I see people with the latest phone, brightness all the way down, stuff like GPS/Wifi/etc constantly off... Why would you buy a state of the art smartphone when you're only using half of the potential? Underclocking is also something I wouldn't do, I just don't see the point of doing it. If you wanted a phone with good battery life and a slower CPU, you should've bought another phone imo.
When it comes to rooting, just ask yourself: Do you have a need for rooting your phone? Personally I always root my phone because I want to be the administrator, not the guest. I like that I can have apps do certain things for me which wouldn't be possible otherwise (like blocking ads or being able to protect my phone with Cerberus, etc). So if you don't really need it, let it be. If you want to take control, root it.

thisisfraa said:
Congrats on your S4, although I have to ask, why did you buy it?
Battery life isn't much of an issue for me, in the end it doesn't really matter since you can easily swap the battery out for a spare one. I usually carry my charger with me when I go to work and stuff, I just try not to think about the battery life too much. In the end, there isn't a single phone on the market with specs like these that has awesome battery life. Sometimes I see people with the latest phone, brightness all the way down, stuff like GPS/Wifi/etc constantly off... Why would you buy a state of the art smartphone when you're only using half of the potential? Underclocking is also something I wouldn't do, I just don't see the point of doing it. If you wanted a phone with good battery life and a slower CPU, you should've bought another phone imo.
When it comes to rooting, just ask yourself: Do you have a need for rooting your phone? Personally I always root my phone because I want to be the administrator, not the guest. I like that I can have apps do certain things for me which wouldn't be possible otherwise (like blocking ads or being able to protect my phone with Cerberus, etc). So if you don't really need it, let it be. If you want to take control, root it.
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why i bought it? because my s2 bricked itself ( shut down and i couldnt get into cwm or download mode and the jig wasnt a help too ^^ ) so I decided to get a new phone.... the htc one was my first choice but it wasnt avaiable in austria till june... JUNE!!!!! so I bought the galaxy s4 which i DO NOT regret at all
i dont need all those features like airview and those sensors ^^ i also like the look of the stock android roms ( running nova prime launcher atm) and if rooting and flashing a new rom and kernel would bring more juice into my day it would be even greater
I over and underclocked before so I kinda know what I am doing .... BUT should i wait will the official google s4 is out and there are custom roms made of that?

Well if you're not sure, waiting for the nexus version could be worth it. I just hope we can flash that rom to the i9505, but we won't know for sure until it's here.
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thisisfraa said:
Well if you're not sure, waiting for the nexus version could be worth it. I just hope we can flash that rom to the i9505, but we won't know for sure until it's here.
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im really interested in that too!!! i mean: will there be a new rom or will the code just be integrated into the existing roms and so on... ^^
can´t wait to see and i sure as hell will flash one of those then!!! *_*

DONT ROOT PLEASE all the numpties here will tell you to root trust me I rooted my gnote all I had was a big nitghmare the battery does not extend if u want to root then u might aswell bin ur shiny new S4 cost it will pause freeze switch of u will lose most of touchwiz software still if u want to root then I can't stop u I can only advice
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Hack Xda said:
DONT ROOT PLEASE all the numpties here will tell you to root trust me I rooted my gnote all I had was a big nitghmare the battery does not extend if u want to root then u might aswell bin ur shiny new S4 cost it will pause freeze switch of u will lose most of touchwiz software still if u want to root then I can't stop u I can only advice
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What mean thats ?

Rooting aside, the I9505 has the best battery life of all the devices I had so far.

robogo1982 said:
Rooting aside, the I9505 has the best battery life of all the devices I had so far.
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then you did not own a note 2 sir

UsEr313131 said:
then you did not own a note 2 sir
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I don't count the Note 2 as a phone, but a phablet.

robogo1982 said:
I don't count the Note 2 as a phone, but a phablet.
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then it is true
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what would the rout add to this device?? "considering it"

What apps is out there to enhance the speed and battery life of the device.....and I mean REAL enhancement not the likes of battery doctor and this ****ty apps
And is there different types of rout or what?
And what about the next update? Would I be able to get it?
And at last what is the best custom rom for the 601?
Sorry guys I am little new to this and thanks in advance.....

Ahmedmoataz said:
What apps is out there to enhance the speed and battery life of the device.....and I mean REAL enhancement not the likes of battery doctor and this ****ty apps
And is there different types of rout or what?
And what about the next update? Would I be able to get it?
And at last what is the best custom rom for the 601?
Sorry guys I am little new to this and thanks in advance.....
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I try to answer every question ... first i think u dont need more speed for the device... its fast .. thats no reason for root in this case...
In terms of battery life however you could root to debloat all uneccecary apps like nox or samsung watch on which are constantly running in the background... In my case I dont root for fancy stuff like custom roms.... I like stock and add stuff to it like you would call enhancements...
Titanium backup is great to backup every app... even system apps.... it backs up all even if the app doesnt allow it ... and you can freeze or unistall the whole bloatware with it... so your device is clean and you can disable any rouge app draining battery... sure you can also change cpu frequency with programs like set cpu.. but as I said device is fast ... if you want save battery turn power save on ... if you try underclockibg further you will probably run into lags... however you can manage cpu frequenzys with tasker .. so u can set frequenzcys for each app individually... but i think its not worth the trouble.. power save mode is enough... so for the next update you probably wont get it on the normal way... need to flash it manually ... probably ... im not sure yet how knox security handles that.... for types of root there are different methods... cf autoroot seems to be the easiest one ... im not sure though if it would work for your device since u have 601 model... if you plan on root make sure your model is supported for the method u choose... last words there is alot of stuff you can add with root...most of it is not worth rooting for... like changing boot animations or icon of your battery .... but if you want full acces or want to get custom roms... some of them save more battery yes... but you kinda loose your stock experience with it.... you can modify your stock experience with the xposed installer while keeping all stuff you like... dobt expect wonders when it comes to performance and battery life when it comes to custom roms ... thats all hope icould help ... wrote with a note 2014 edition which is not rooted?... yet

Medy89 said:
I try to answer every question ... first i think u dont need more speed for the device... its fast .. thats no reason for root in this case...
In terms of battery life however you could root to debloat all uneccecary apps like nox or samsung watch on which are constantly running in the background... In my case I dont root for fancy stuff like custom roms.... I like stock and add stuff to it like you would call enhancements...
Titanium backup is great to backup every app... even system apps.... it backs up all even if the app doesnt allow it ... and you can freeze or unistall the whole bloatware with it... so your device is clean and you can disable any rouge app draining battery... sure you can also change cpu frequency with programs like set cpu.. but as I said device is fast ... if you want save battery turn power save on ... if you try underclockibg further you will probably run into lags... however you can manage cpu frequenzys with tasker .. so u can set frequenzcys for each app individually... but i think its not worth the trouble.. power save mode is enough... so for the next update you probably wont get it on the normal way... need to flash it manually ... probably ... im not sure yet how knox security handles that.... for types of root there are different methods... cf autoroot seems to be the easiest one ... im not sure though if it would work for your device since u have 601 model... if you plan on root make sure your model is supported for the method u choose... last words there is alot of stuff you can add with root...most of it is not worth rooting for... like changing boot animations or icon of your battery .... but if you want full acces or want to get custom roms... some of them save more battery yes... but you kinda loose your stock experience with it.... you can modify your stock experience with the xposed installer while keeping all stuff you like... dobt expect wonders when it comes to performance and battery life when it comes to custom roms ... thats all hope icould help ... wrote with a note 2014 edition which is not rooted?... yet
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Oooooooooh thaaaaanks bro this must took an effort to explain ??
I already turned of alot of the bloatware without rooting and yeaaah its faaast but faster is always better ??
I guess I am not rooting after I read ur post at least until the kitkat update is here
Thanks again bro...really appreciate it

Just one more thing, you void the warranty if you root ( at least with the current root options that tripp the security knox fuse, for the time being it's irreversible )
so that might be a small issue to consider
with some luck a knox-safe root solution might pop up...soon...maybe...

DeBoX said:
Just one more thing, you void the warranty if you root ( at least with the current root options that tripp the security knox fuse, for the time being it's irreversible )
so that might be a small issue to consider
with some luck a knox-safe root solution might pop up...soon...maybe...
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Not bloody likely, on the Note 3 forum the bounty is at over $3000USD and it is still unclaimed with the likes of chainfire and a couple of other awesome devs giving up as it is seemingly impossible....

Ahmedmoataz said:
Oooooooooh thaaaaanks bro this must took an effort to explain ??
I already turned of alot of the bloatware without rooting and yeaaah its faaast but faster is always better ??
I guess I am not rooting after I read ur post at least until the kitkat update is here
Thanks again bro...really appreciate it
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np bro ... give it some time ... maybe some risk free root method like framaroot shows up ...
until then enjoy ur fast device ... I overclocked my old note 10.1 .. but it didnt do much ... about 5-10 & more speed ... but thats not noticable in overall performance.... not worth rooting for cpu stuff... you can get some stuff to work with root .. the question is do you need that ...
I give u a few examples which come to mind...
recording footage of your device ... for lets plays or stuff
- advanced features for tracking apps ... ahaha i have some stuff installed on my dads device ... enough said
-cpu stuff .. as I said not worth so much
- change behaviour of buttons / customize your navigation and status bar ...
- free some apps of ads
-there are some neet hacking ähm security test apps
-change resolution / dpi
-customize in general
I find it most useful for cleaning up samsung bloatware & backup my app data ...
there is tons of small features you can get with root ... but most of it you can get without root too...
if you are bored and your warranty is void sicne 2 years passed ... you should root ... just for the sake of it ...

Medy89 said:
np bro ... give it some time ... maybe some risk free root method like framaroot shows up ...
until then enjoy ur fast device ... I overclocked my old note 10.1 .. but it didnt do much ... about 5-10 & more speed ... but thats not noticable in overall performance.... not worth rooting for cpu stuff... you can get some stuff to work with root .. the question is do you need that ...
I give u a few examples which come to mind...
recording footage of your device ... for lets plays or stuff
- advanced features for tracking apps ... ahaha i have some stuff installed on my dads device ... enough said
-cpu stuff .. as I said not worth so much
- change behaviour of buttons / customize your navigation and status bar ...
- free some apps of ads
-there are some neet hacking ähm security test apps
-change resolution / dpi
-customize in general
I find it most useful for cleaning up samsung bloatware & backup my app data ...
there is tons of small features you can get with root ... but most of it you can get without root too...
if you are bored and your warranty is void sicne 2 years passed ... you should root ... just for the sake of it ...
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There is not enough words to thank u for ur effort ??
Its not the warranty that I am worried about.....its the fact that its cant be reversed......and unless I run into something really impressive I am gonna wait the kk update
Sorry but I like ur knowledge and I am gonna use u once more....???
Do u have some battery saving tricks? Apps? No root of course

It's impossible to root without tripping Knox. It's s an actual fuse that burns out. Once this is fine, you'd have to physically replace the mother board
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Ahmedmoataz said:
There is not enough words to thank u for ur effort ??
Its not the warranty that I am worried about.....its the fact that its cant be reversed......and unless I run into something really impressive I am gonna wait the kk update
Sorry but I like ur knowledge and I am gonna use u once more....???
Do u have some battery saving tricks? Apps? No root of course
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np keep asking ... what I do for battery saving is turning power save mode on , using low brightness and let my wifi go on and off automatically ,
I also did some underclocking on my nexus 7 / note 10.1 old model ... but it always comes with increase of lag .... which sucks ... thats why I love power savign on samsung devices .... this underclocks to the excact right level which saves energy but doenst hinder performance..... you dont need more than that.... well for non samsung devices which dont have power save ... this might be useful ... samsung does it right without root though... well ofc and before you let your device go on standby .. close all apps with recent apps manager... but thats basic stuff ...
these battery saver apps are useful for turn on / off wifi automatically .. or whatever connection u use
I use juice defender on my older devices which have jellybean ... because it has a feature to change color temperature at night .... its very pleasing for the eyes it also saves extra battery on amoled screens i could explain why but that would take too long... I also recommend f.lux which is the original programm on pc ....
for my note 2014 im using "IC commander" which is basicly the same as juice defender without the color temperature feature.... [turns wifi on after I unlock at lockscreen] ofc you can do turn wifi on / off yourself ... but i would hate pushing that button all the time ... the cool thing is when you have a case with magnet lock ... you just need to close the case and your screen goes off ... and if you have that app wifi goes off too^^ .. no more buttons to press ...
check out my youtube channel its not about tech stuff but I have 1 video of my both old galaxy note devices in their cases xD
its actually about anime & game movies ... maybe its to your liking
https://www.youtube.com/user/Medy89

Medy89 said:
np keep asking ... what I do for battery saving is turning power save mode on , using low brightness and let my wifi go on and off automatically ,
I also did some underclocking on my nexus 7 / note 10.1 old model ... but it always comes with increase of lag .... which sucks ... thats why I love power savign on samsung devices .... this underclocks to the excact right level which saves energy but doenst hinder performance..... you dont need more than that.... well for non samsung devices which dont have power save ... this might be useful ... samsung does it right without root though... well ofc and before you let your device go on standby .. close all apps with recent apps manager... but thats basic stuff ...
these battery saver apps are useful for turn on / off wifi automatically .. or whatever connection u use
I use juice defender on my older devices which have jellybean ... because it has a feature to change color temperature at night .... its very pleasing for the eyes it also saves extra battery on amoled screens i could explain why but that would take too long... I also recommend f.lux which is the original programm on pc ....
for my note 2014 im using "IC commander" which is basicly the same as juice defender without the color temperature feature.... [turns wifi on after I unlock at lockscreen] ofc you can do turn wifi on / off yourself ... but i would hate pushing that button all the time ... the cool thing is when you have a case with magnet lock ... you just need to close the case and your screen goes off ... and if you have that app wifi goes off too^^ .. no more buttons to press ...
check out my youtube channel its not about tech stuff but I have 1 video of my both old galaxy note devices in their cases xD
its actually about anime & game movies ... maybe its to your liking
https://www.youtube.com/user/Medy89
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Well that is greaaaaaaaat bro I will try it........thanks ??
But why did u switch from juice defender to ic commander? Is it better or what?
Thanks again bro.....u r awesome!!!!
Btw I subscribed to ur chanel......its great ?

Ahmedmoataz said:
There is not enough words to thank u for ur effort ??
Its not the warranty that I am worried about.....its the fact that its cant be reversed......and unless I run into something really impressive I am gonna wait the kk update
Sorry but I like ur knowledge and I am gonna use u once more....???
Do u have some battery saving tricks? Apps? No root of course
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Ahmedmoataz said:
Well that is greaaaaaaaat bro I will try it........thanks ??
But why did u switch from juice defender to ic commander? Is it better or what?
Thanks again bro.....u r awesome!!!!
Btw I subscribed to ur chanel......its great ?
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just switched because there are no more updates since 2012 or so ... no support for that app anymore ... ic commander is more up to date ... juicy defender is going crazy on kitkat having wakelocks ands stuff draining battery ... but thats mostly because kitkat update which change so much stuff in the system ... so juice defender doesnt work properly ... it had more than 1 hour wakelocks on the new note 10.1 ... on my old it had only 5-10 min wich is normal ... since it handles wifi.... so yea thats why i dropped it on my new note

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Medy89 said:
just switched because there are no more updates since 2012 or so ... no support for that app anymore ... ic commander is more up to date ... juicy defender is going crazy on kitkat having wakelocks ands stuff draining battery ... but thats mostly because kitkat update which change so much stuff in the system ... so juice defender doesnt work properly ... it had more than 1 hour wakelocks on the new note 10.1 ... on my old it had only 5-10 min wich is normal ... since it handles wifi.... so yea thats why i dropped it on my new note
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U have kitkat on the note 2014??!!
Is it released already?

Ahmedmoataz said:
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U have kitkat on the note 2014??!!
Is it released already?
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oh no .. mixed that up forgot 4.3 is still jellybean
but its coming soon i heard ...
I just watched a flash video for 1 min on dolphin browser and my battery dropped 15 % .. wtf is this
has someone experienced similiar issues ? only happens with flash plugin ....

Medy89 said:
oh no .. mixed that up forgot 4.3 is still jellybean
but its coming soon i heard ...
I just watched a flash video for 1 min on dolphin browser and my battery dropped 15 % .. wtf is this
has someone experienced similiar issues ? only happens with flash plugin ....
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Yea it's flash plugin issue ......I read alot of people complaining about it.....someone was suggesting checking if it's the latest update....try it

[Guide] How to get the most out of your brand spanking new G3!

Just thought I’d put a short guide together on what I think are some things to do to get the most out of your spanking new LG G3 when you get it or you already have it. Most of you guys might already know most of this or might not. Just thought it might help some people. This ain’t rocket science but every little bit helps!
Battery:
This is the hardest thing to do because like a fingerprint everyone has a different set up with apps and how they use their phone (wifi vs 3g vs 4g etc) that screen on time will always vary. Also you don’t want to turn everything off and cripple your brand new smartphone just for your battery. There’s a balance.
However here are some general things to do that do help:
1. Install Greenify from the Playstore. I have found this is the number one way to stop drainage. This app will hibernate apps when not in use. It doesn’t stop their functionality at all but hibernates them.
2. Don’t use Google Now. I think it’s a gimmick and does bugger all for me however if you use it it will drain your battery big time. Of course if you love it then use it!
3. Don’t use location services. Another big drainer. Just use it when you need it. However if you have apps that need it then of course leave it on!
4. Use ‘auto’ on screen brightness. Mine is on ‘auto’ but at 100% and the brightness is perfectly ok for me.
5. If you continue to get big drainage then download Betterbatterystats from the Playstore and look at the ‘wakelocks’ – this way you will be able to see what’s draining your battery. As a general rule your phone should go into deep sleep for at least 80% of the time.
With this phone I am getting around 5 to 5.5 hours Screen on Time. You should be getting around that too.
Performance:
Here are a few things only that really do help with speed and performance:
1. The whole thermal throttling thing is a pain i.e. LG’s decision to turn down brightness when it gets hot. However there is something you can do and which I have now done for two weeks with no adverse problems. Turn it off! Put this in the phone app: 3845#*400# and then scroll down to 'high temperature property' and switch to enable and do the same for 'thermal daemon mitigation'. Please note my model is ‘400’ so this will work in the number sequence above. For models with other numbers I am pretty sure you just substitute and put that number in e.g. 855.
2. Go to Dev Options and change the transition animation scale, the animator duration scale and the window animation scale to 0.5. This little thing speeds up your phone like nothing else.
3. Root your phone with towelroot. One click root! And then start debloating. Get rid of whatever you want by downloading Titanium Backup and going into each app and freezing whatever you want. Freezing is safer than uninstalling but does the same thing. Debloating is a must!
4. So once rooted then start using xPosed modules by downloading and installing the xPosed framework and then rebooting.
These are my personal Top 3:
a. Download the brilliant xPosed module ‘TweaksBox’ by P_Toti located at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792242
And donate something to him! This allows you to change so much with this phone. I dunno where to start. It is superb.
b. I dislike the LG skin so immediately download the Google launcher – to me it is the fastest launcher out there beating Nova and Apex. This launcher cannot be customised however there is a fantastic xPosed module that allows you to customise everything - Xposed Gel settings located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-xposed-gel-settings-t2647275
And donate to him too!
c. How good would it be to extend your nav bar seamlessly if you slide your finger! Well you can – download Xtended nav bar here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-xtended-navbar-t2787228
And donate to him too!
I can’t think of anything else but these things definitely help.
And get ready for your G3 – it is super duper great!

lol donate this donate that, you sounded like their marketing... nice tips though, I'd like to ask between betterbattery stats and gsam battery monitor, which one better?
will towelroot work on the d855 version?
also what is the difference between greenify's hibernating with titanium backup's freezing?

nap007 said:
lol donate this donate that, you sounded like their marketing... nice tips though, I'd like to ask between betterbattery stats and gsam battery monitor, which one better?
will towelroot work on the d855 version?
also what is the difference between greenify's hibernating with titanium backup's freezing?
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Ha yes someone's got to donate! They do so much and get so little.
Yes the only reason I said bbs is because I'm used to it. Gsam does the same thing essentially.
Yes from what I read towelroot should work.
Greenify hibernates an app in the background if you are not using it whilst freezing apps effectively uninstalls them without the pain of then being actually uninstalled. And you can unfreeze them any time.

okay, again thanks for creating this thread, btw how do we take screenshots from g3?

nap007 said:
okay, again thanks for creating this thread, btw how do we take screenshots from g3?
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Volume down plus back button at same time.

poczynek said:
Volume down plus back button at same time.
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Didn't you mean volume down and power button? Is rather easy to do compared to other phones because it only takes 1 finger (pun intended)
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If you turn off the "Ok Google" listener you will save most off the battery drainage, I find Google Now pretty handy.

Pilz said:
Didn't you mean volume down and power button? Is rather easy to do compared to other phones because it only takes 1 finger (pun intended)
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Yes sorry i meant the button at the back!

What we need is a lost of LG apps that can safely be frozen, and what it is they all do.
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Lennyuk said:
What we need is a lost of LG apps that can safely be frozen, and what it is they all do.
Sent from my LG G3
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Yes I've debloated some but just the safe ones. There's heaps there though.
How are you finding yours? I'm loving mine but just hoping more developers get on board. Tell your developer mates please!

Is there any danger turning off the thermal thingy. Could the phone completely overheat?

I'll just confirm for anyone wondering that indeed the turning off the thermal throttling does work by changing the device model number to "855" on the UK version
No adverse effects in last half hour or so and have been trying to run demanding tasks to see how it go's

You can uninstall all of the bloat without any issues. It also helps with your battery life. I usual get 4 hours of screen time post charge. That's more than most people can get on a stock kernel, and it's great for a 2k display.
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holy **** I feel dumb
where is the developer option? I can't find it on my d855

nap007 said:
holy **** I feel dumb
where is the developer option? I can't find it on my d855
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Go to settings, General, About phone, Software information and tap on the build number 7 times. Then go back to General, scroll down and you'll see Developer options.

Diesel779 said:
Go to settings, General, About phone, Software information and tap on the build number 7 times. Then go back to General, scroll down and you'll see Developer options.
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omg thank you, no idea there is a magic code that hid it lol :victory:

surprised this thread does not get more attention, I guess most xda members are experts...
btw does g3 has pre installed torch app (cannot find it in mine, I'm pleasantly surprised that there is just little bloatwares pre installed in my phone...) ? if not what is the best non bloated torch app to use?
and also I'm such a noob, can someone link me a guide to use tapatalk efficiently?
thanks for the help

No torch/flashlight app preinstalled, you will have to install one. Also no task manager that I can see.

What is the best torch app you recommend?
Also task manager? Doesn't the android multitasking app work finely for that?

I am using"flashlight hd led" which seems fine.
Yes android does, I just liked the task manager on the G2, not sure why they didn't keep it.

May be Switching from Note 3 to Moto X Pure

So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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spookykidmm said:
So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.

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I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.
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Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.

Misterxtc said:
I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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Alright well thank you anyway
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spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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Im not sure why those reviews say that.
I constantly get 4 - 5hrs screen on time, occasionally it'll get 6hrs screen on time, that was on stock non rooted.
I've also recently rooted and flashed xposed with gravity box and still continue to get very acceptable battery life.
i have the US version of the Pure. Not sure if my phone just got a good battery.

spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I came from note 3 as well. On it since it came out. I've seen quite a spread on what people get. I'll low ball and say definitely 3 1/2, 4 1/2 with some management. Better build than 3 (expected). You'll have to get used to the color changes. Samsung saturates, so remember that. Someone posted getting 32 at least. I definitely agree with that statement. Don't bother with 16, even with the availability of SD card. Great radio. Unlocked for carriers. Price can't be beat. Only other option would be Nexus 6P.
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Misterxtc said:
I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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What ROM do you use?

guraki said:
What ROM do you use?
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I was running stock until a couple hours ago and decided to try AICP. So far it's running great.

Def agree with everyone to get 32gb or above. What took me by surprise is this phone has no LED notification.....unless your rooted and running a rom which supports it (most do). Also when you root you will be able to control doze much more efficiently and get much better standby battery. This has the brightest screen I have ever seen (have it on 5%-10% while indoors), great audio jack/speaker sound/reception/camera and battery charges ridiculously quick. It's safe to say you will love this phone.

plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again

Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone

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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone
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Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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spookykidmm said:
Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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Not at all.

brholt6 said:
Not at all.
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Thank you
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Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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Since battery depends on many variables like screen brightness, signal strength, apps installed, sync frequency, etc....your setup could be giving you horrible battery life, but explain to me how xposed makes battery that much worse....you must have many modules incorrectly configured.

My girlfriend upgraded from her Note 3 to the Moto X Pure when I upgraded at the same time from my LG G4 to this and we're both EXTREMELY satisfied. Dev support is on the rise so you'll have a few choices in ROMs. I'm currently rockin' TruPureXMM v2.5 with Franken Kernel using his Battery Profile settings, xPosed with GravityBox, Amplify & XGPM and can honestly say I couldn't be much happier with the experience overall.
We have the 64 GB models and neither of us use an sdCard since it's been more than enough for us. Google Photos keeps our photos stored and Google Play Music is our choice of service (Family Plan for $14.99 a month) which lets us stream our over 23,000 song collection and gives us access to any song on Google Play with no ads and since we have T-Mobile the music streaming isn't going against our high speed data, which is very nice. As other are saying, you will enjoy the dual-front speakers, the screen is great, and battery life is within reasonable acceptance. You can squeeze more out of it fairly easily with some tweaking and the quick-charge is INSANE. You can't beat the charger that comes with this phone.

[Q] New Samsung Note 4 owner, things I should know?

HI all.
I'm a new Samsung Galaxy Note 4 owner! Recently upgraded from a Note 3. Phones are years old but are decently priced and still good phones when you're not looking for something too fancy.
Honestly, the Note 3 was the best phone I've ever had and was looking forward to a Note 4 upgrade (was looking forward to the fingerprint scanner, even if not the best, and to the metal edges)
Now, I'd just like to ask for a few pointers on this device. Any custom ROM suggestions? Anything I should know about?
I am doing my fair share of research, I've been reading a lot of posts regarding this device, posts that are months old, posts that are years old and I've gotten myself a general idea of what to expect.
But I think even with all this reading, I probably won't be able to compare what I learn from these posts to someone that has owned a Note 4 for months, possibly years! Which is why I'm posting this thread, to ask those who have had this device for a longer time and will probably continue to use it for a longer time since this phone is amazing!
I just want to ask you Note 4 owners, if you bought a brand new Note 4, what set-up will you prefer? Custom ROM? Stock ROM? Any kernels you would flash?
I know the best ROM will always be stock ROM, but is there any worth-while N7 ports for the Note 4? I'm a big fan of the off-screen memo, the smart screen capture (scroll and screen-recording that records gifs) and also enjoy tweaking the kernel (overclock) for smoother game performance. I've also read that the most common problem with ports is the fingerprint scanner. I'll probably end up doing the work-around since no custom ROM has gotten this fixed (from what I read it's almost impossible without leaving a lot of the stock ROM's assets which defeat the point of a custom ROM).
Currently, I am downloading stock EQI2 6.0.1 which is the latest firmware for the N910T variant. I know that the T-Mobile variant has it's own forum but I usually see that the "Samsung Galaxy Note 4" thread is the most active and sometimes includes things for the T-Mobile variant (was the same case with the Note 3, the T-Mobile forum was dead and the international forum was alive and well)
It's running 5.0.1 software right now, hopefully 6.0.1 is better.
Thank you for your time!

I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.

ripee said:
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
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Thanks for your input, I am currently trying out a Note 7 ROM port, but if it doesn't work out I will try it out

Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.

iceepyon said:
Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Been snooping around and messing with a couple of custom ROM's either with Note 7/8 features and S7 Edge/S8.
I really like the look overall to the stock Note 4 UI, but I seem to have a very bad luck with random reboots and some features missing (fingerprint) or not working (night clock).
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
Yup, I guess my motto came true. "The best ROM is always STOCK ROM", even if it looks a bit out-dated.
I'm currently running stock and a custom kernel I found for stock MM. I'm pleased with the results so far, just kind of wish I could boot straight in to camera with double HOME press

Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.

snatch_bill said:
Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?

ShaDisNX255 said:
That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!

ShaDisNX255 said:
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 3 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:

ShaDisNX255 said:
I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 4 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.

snatch_bill said:
IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:

ShaDisNX255 said:
So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.

snatch_bill said:
In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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Yeah, I'll take my precautions. Thank you for your input

I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !

r33fd said:
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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The only small problem I have with stock is that it looks outdated. I know visuals are the least you should look for in a ROM, should be more worried about stability and battery life, but I simply can't deny that visually, stock TW UI bothers me.
But I guess I'll have to get used to it anyway since all the ROMs I've tried have issues here and there, but most importantly I get random shut downs and reboots with most custom ROMs and I lose the fingerprint scanner.
As for games, I heavily play a game called Shadowgun Deadzone. It's not that graphics heavy, but I need it to run smooth. I haven't tried Samsung's game booster, I've only messed around with custom kernels and changing the CPU governor, overclocking, etc... and it runs fine for a little while, but starts chugging after a few minutes in.
If the game booster can fix this, heck I can stick with stock ROM without any problems.

When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..

nutpants said:
When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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A launcher can only do so much. I'm referring to mostly on things like the notification drawer, the settings and stuff like that.