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so i have my galaxy s4 and I am not sure if i should root or not ^^ my biggest problem is the battery life .....
like for example how much can i increase my battery life with for example cyanogenmod 10.1 and Adam kernel ( or if theres a better one.....)
now i get https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5dh67d66c9r08j/2013-05-31 17.22.54.png
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/xzyoseed3isuh4s/2013-05-31 17.23.00.png .....
i already ordered a second battery with charger from amazon but it will arrive my doorstep on june 27 so.... yeah ^^
how much screen on time can i get on normal days... ( i use mobile internet for whatsapp, facebook, browsing and sometimes youtube... thats it)
i do not play much games, so i could eaysily underclock am i right? ^^
UsEr313131 said:
so i have my galaxy s4 and I am not sure if i should root or not ^^ my biggest problem is the battery life .....
like for example how much can i increase my battery life with for example cyanogenmod 10.1 and Adam kernel ( or if theres a better one.....)
now i get https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5dh67d66c9r08j/2013-05-31 17.22.54.png
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/xzyoseed3isuh4s/2013-05-31 17.23.00.png .....
i already ordered a second battery with charger from amazon but it will arrive my doorstep on june 27 so.... yeah ^^
how much screen on time can i get on normal days... ( i use mobile internet for whatsapp, facebook, browsing and sometimes youtube... thats it)
i do not play much games, so i could eaysily underclock am i right? ^^
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Hi,
Look HERE
Some battery saving tips.
Congrats on your S4, although I have to ask, why did you buy it?
Battery life isn't much of an issue for me, in the end it doesn't really matter since you can easily swap the battery out for a spare one. I usually carry my charger with me when I go to work and stuff, I just try not to think about the battery life too much. In the end, there isn't a single phone on the market with specs like these that has awesome battery life. Sometimes I see people with the latest phone, brightness all the way down, stuff like GPS/Wifi/etc constantly off... Why would you buy a state of the art smartphone when you're only using half of the potential? Underclocking is also something I wouldn't do, I just don't see the point of doing it. If you wanted a phone with good battery life and a slower CPU, you should've bought another phone imo.
When it comes to rooting, just ask yourself: Do you have a need for rooting your phone? Personally I always root my phone because I want to be the administrator, not the guest. I like that I can have apps do certain things for me which wouldn't be possible otherwise (like blocking ads or being able to protect my phone with Cerberus, etc). So if you don't really need it, let it be. If you want to take control, root it.
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Congrats on your S4, although I have to ask, why did you buy it?
Battery life isn't much of an issue for me, in the end it doesn't really matter since you can easily swap the battery out for a spare one. I usually carry my charger with me when I go to work and stuff, I just try not to think about the battery life too much. In the end, there isn't a single phone on the market with specs like these that has awesome battery life. Sometimes I see people with the latest phone, brightness all the way down, stuff like GPS/Wifi/etc constantly off... Why would you buy a state of the art smartphone when you're only using half of the potential? Underclocking is also something I wouldn't do, I just don't see the point of doing it. If you wanted a phone with good battery life and a slower CPU, you should've bought another phone imo.
When it comes to rooting, just ask yourself: Do you have a need for rooting your phone? Personally I always root my phone because I want to be the administrator, not the guest. I like that I can have apps do certain things for me which wouldn't be possible otherwise (like blocking ads or being able to protect my phone with Cerberus, etc). So if you don't really need it, let it be. If you want to take control, root it.
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why i bought it? because my s2 bricked itself ( shut down and i couldnt get into cwm or download mode and the jig wasnt a help too ^^ ) so I decided to get a new phone.... the htc one was my first choice but it wasnt avaiable in austria till june... JUNE!!!!! so I bought the galaxy s4 which i DO NOT regret at all
i dont need all those features like airview and those sensors ^^ i also like the look of the stock android roms ( running nova prime launcher atm) and if rooting and flashing a new rom and kernel would bring more juice into my day it would be even greater
I over and underclocked before so I kinda know what I am doing .... BUT should i wait will the official google s4 is out and there are custom roms made of that?
Well if you're not sure, waiting for the nexus version could be worth it. I just hope we can flash that rom to the i9505, but we won't know for sure until it's here.
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Well if you're not sure, waiting for the nexus version could be worth it. I just hope we can flash that rom to the i9505, but we won't know for sure until it's here.
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im really interested in that too!!! i mean: will there be a new rom or will the code just be integrated into the existing roms and so on... ^^
can´t wait to see and i sure as hell will flash one of those then!!! *_*
DONT ROOT PLEASE all the numpties here will tell you to root trust me I rooted my gnote all I had was a big nitghmare the battery does not extend if u want to root then u might aswell bin ur shiny new S4 cost it will pause freeze switch of u will lose most of touchwiz software still if u want to root then I can't stop u I can only advice
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Hack Xda said:
DONT ROOT PLEASE all the numpties here will tell you to root trust me I rooted my gnote all I had was a big nitghmare the battery does not extend if u want to root then u might aswell bin ur shiny new S4 cost it will pause freeze switch of u will lose most of touchwiz software still if u want to root then I can't stop u I can only advice
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What mean thats ?
Rooting aside, the I9505 has the best battery life of all the devices I had so far.
robogo1982 said:
Rooting aside, the I9505 has the best battery life of all the devices I had so far.
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then you did not own a note 2 sir
UsEr313131 said:
then you did not own a note 2 sir
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I don't count the Note 2 as a phone, but a phablet.
robogo1982 said:
I don't count the Note 2 as a phone, but a phablet.
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then it is true
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Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
Turn off all sync and backup features. Turn off all location reporting features. Greenify persistent apps.
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Buy an iphone
KiranNokia said:
Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
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try greenify...
Dig xda,there's official thread
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Nreigota said:
Buy an iphone
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Ha Ha, Appreciate your suggestion and you know what would be my reply...
Cheers,
KiK
anu.cool said:
try greenify...
Dig xda,there's official thread
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Hi,
I did try Greenify, and its like everytime the apps needs to be manually force stopped after use, thats a bit wierd, and to take the full advantage, the phone needs to be rooted. As rooting voids the warranty, it wont be a good idea.
Cheers,
KiK
So I assume you have i9500 version with no good custom roms.
Without customs roms you cant do much.
KiranNokia said:
Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
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In android , we have numerous background processes which obviously drains the battery. If you can reduce these processes then u would have a better battery backup. Background processes of iOS n Android are completely different so dont compare it. Rooting is the best way to gain control of your device.
Mandark52 said:
In android , we have numerous background processes which obviously drains the battery. If you can reduce these processes then u would have a better battery backup. Background processes of iOS n Android are completely different so dont compare it. Rooting is the best way to gain control of your device.
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Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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+1 on that situ always keep a spare on you as a backup
gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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Two batteries may result into caliberation issues. Its better to buy a power pack instead of extra battery.
Sent from OCTA CORE I9500.
Mandark52 said:
Two batteries may result into caliberation issues. Its better to buy a power pack instead of extra battery.
Sent from OCTA CORE I9500.
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Not really as long as you use original samsung instead of eBay £3 versions ?? No calibration probs on any batteries here
11calcal said:
Not really as long as you use original samsung instead of eBay £3 versions ?? No calibration probs on any batteries here
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Well u ll get to know about the caliberation issues after months.I had SGA S5830 with an extra battery n faced caliberation issues, SGA ws completely on stock n unrooted. N its logical that if someone is investing 34k in S4 then why would he buy a £3 eBay battery!
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So I assume you have i9500 version with no good custom roms.
Without customs roms you cant do much.
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Hi Pal,
Ya, I know, and about Custom rom , I am no longer interested at the moment, got to play enough with my Galaxy S+ and Custom ROM, so advantage and disadvantages are very much aware now . With my S4, I dont want to root it or flash Custom ROMs, I was trying to find a way without affecting the official ROM. Trying some workaround, shall let you knw if it works.
Cheers,
KiK
gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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Hi Smith,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, I wouldn't recommend that option when you have to do Opening , change battery and closing the back cover on a daily basis, that doesn't look good isn't it? fine, the other option, adding a double capacity battery, aaaah., Considering the shame that brings for you , when someone says, what the heck you're doing with this soap box ( that much bulky it is) , you would rather wish let the phone be switched off better. ,
Okey fine, I have done a work around , which is not perfect as iOS, but some what near.
What I did was, thanks to the kitkat update, which allows you to turn off all most all of the services (including google services) and all the samsung service (most of them), I have turned off all the Samsung service, which I felt not needed (may be S planner and S memo , may used, keep those), and turned off all the unwanted google services, ( games,newstand, play music) ... I did turn off, so anytime it can be turned off, so that fine.
Now, the result! Initial analysis found to be good, I am now getting 10+ hrs, where as before it was 6hrs, (That too on Wifi/3G, without turning off the extra features, air view and other smart features)
No Crashing, No Lag, and about all the main thing I wanted, it drains a very little when it sleeps, almost like iOS now ( yes, iOS drains almost nothing during sleep ) .
100 to 96% after 8hrs during sleep, its good I would say.
Still I could do nothing about SAMOLED Screen and Voice call, which found to be the main battery eater.
Let's see if something new comes to save in Android 4.5 /or 5, which ever the upcoming version is.
Cheers,
KiK
So i make this thread to see who is happy with that firmware and who is not and who have the same annoying problems as me...
I think we all love xperia SP as a device for design and specs but i also think that 0.266 suckZ..
I will sent this to sony when votes are enough. .
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So i make this thread to see who is happy with that firmware and who is not and who have the same annoying problems as me...
I think we all love xperia SP as a device for design and specs but i also think that 0.266 suckZ..
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Great idea :good:
Hope you will pass the results to a Sony :laugh:
altough, they already preparing new release...
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/02/26/xperia-sp-sees-new-firmware-12-1-a-1-192-certified/
:victory:
I vote for low RAM aka bad RAM management
and for options Other problems I add :
LED lights are on during voice call
&
LED lights lightshow in Walkman are connected to the volume so in higher volume they are always lit
freedom74 said:
Great idea :good:
Hope you will pass the results to a Sony :laugh:
altough, they already preparing new release...
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/02/26/xperia-sp-sees-new-firmware-12-1-a-1-192-certified/
:victory:
I vote for low RAM aka bad RAM management
and for options Other problems I add :
LED lights are on during voice call
&
LED lights lightshow in Walkman are connected to the volume so in higher volume they are always lit
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I know man i check every day all day sony forums for this update... i really hope they will fix my flickering problem it is very annoying :/
Yeah, problems again
When I play RR3, it is always force close bacause run out of RAM
The solution in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658699
But unfortunately it needs root
Sometimes the touchscreen is not responsive, I don't know why
But the battery issue is fixed anyway
Smankusors said:
Yeah, problems again
When I play RR3, it is always force close bacause run out of RAM
The solution in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658699
But unfortunately it needs root
Sometimes the touchscreen is not responsive, I don't know why
But the battery issue is fixed anyway
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maybe you should try some apps as "greenify" or "clean master" as they dont need root.. Idk if they fix something with your problem cause i never used 4.3 for more than 2 hours... but you still can try.. you can free more ram by disable your widgets too ..
low ram, lags & freezes all the time. poor multi-tasking also. 266 really does eat dirt
reinearl said:
low ram, lags & freezes all the time. poor multi-tasking also. 266 really does eat dirt
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i feel u 100% mate....... i hate sony for first time :/ such a good device get raped by that sucky firmware xD
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i feel u 100% mate....... i hate sony for first time :/ such a good device get raped by that sucky firmware xD
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Many people say SuperCharger has only placebo effects. I used to think the same way. Until I got 4.3 update from Sony with its poor ram management.
Few days ago I installed SuperCharger MOD with service.jar patched. I used to have launcher redraws, keyboard disappearing, etc. Especially when I open heavy ram earwr app like chrome. Now, I rarely have these issues. I suggest you to try it out. I am now happy with my Xperia SP.
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wisnuhadi23 said:
Many people say SuperCharger has only placebo effects. I used to think the same way. Until I got 4.3 update from Sony with its poor ram management.
Few days ago I installed SuperCharger MOD with service.jar patched. I used to have launcher redraws, keyboard disappearing, etc. Especially when I open heavy ram earwr app like chrome. Now, I rarely have these issues. I suggest you to try it out. I am now happy with my Xperia SP.
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my main problem is screen flickering like a pulse every 1 second... everywhere.. in ui,games,photos.. even in cwm.. i cant fix it i have tried EVERYTHING .. differend kernels differend roms... 4.4 liquid rom with nayan kernel do the same :S its very annoying... but with 4.1.2 all works perfect...
266 is a piece of crap. when I bought the phone I upgraded right from the start to 4.3... and almost returned it to the store. but then I decided to downgrade to 4.1.2... man, its like heaven. best rom ever lol
When at 4.1.2, the song app will be stopped once i open chrome for browsing less than one song,
now at 4.3, the song apps will only be stopped/closed after 6 or 7 songs..
Although is an improvement, but i belief it is still a problem for android 4.3 for SP
I am back to stock .254. Avoiding all those bloatware prefering dolphin, shuttle music player, etc. So far, encountering no issues and system is fast. And I'm still resisting the urge to flash rooted 4.3.
In .266 everything is bad.
1)Ram management is 1big problem
2)volume bar disappeared
3)call starts with loudspeaker On
4)Camera..Maybe Sony installed 2.0 mp camera and telling it's 8.0 mp.
5)etc.
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On my 254 - I greenify those apps which never exit even when I close them. And I freeze those not used.
Today, i spent 1 hour on music and 30 minutes fiddling with my calendar. Lost 7% (only?) battery...
Don't know - maybe 266 may increase its battery span as well if I apply the same processes...
ParaSense. said:
maybe you should try some apps as "greenify" or "clean master" as they dont need root.. Idk if they fix something with your problem cause i never used 4.3 for more than 2 hours... but you still can try.. you can free more ram by disable your widgets too ..
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As I know, Android will use RAM as many as possible. It is not same as Windows. When the phone needs more memory, the system will close background apps and unused apps automatically. So the Task Killer, Task Manager, Clean Master, is SUCKS. It will make your Android more slowly
Greenify will hibernate the apps, but I think the system will still uses half of memory if I'm not edit the build.prop, needs ROOT to edit :'(
So i send this to sony forums
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-SP/12-1-A-0-266-XDA-POLL-and-a-question-for-moderators-developers/m-p/602541#U602541
ParaSense. said:
So i send this to sony forums
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-SP/12-1-A-0-266-XDA-POLL-and-a-question-for-moderators-developers/m-p/602541#U602541
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It sound like a real big problem if u (well, all we) says '4.3 have a lot of bugs' but actually a don't think that ppl in that forum take it serious when the poll have just 59 voters xD
poor ram management
QBerto said:
It sound like a real big problem if u (well, all we) says '4.3 have a lot of bugs' but actually a don't think that ppl in that forum take it serious when the poll have just 59 voters xD
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they allready know that its a bug-fw.. every day people complain about problems on 4.3... and what makes me mad is that for almost all problems the solution is "do repair with sus" or "do factory reset" or "go your phone to local service" xD nvm at least the confirmed new bug fixing update... i can w8 for ever.. i just hope they will fix ALL the bugs..
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they allready know that its a bug-fw.. every day people complain about problems on 4.3... and what makes me mad is that for almost all problems the solution is "do repair with sus" or "do factory reset" or "go your phone to local service" xD nvm at least the confirmed new bug fixing update... i can w8 for ever.. i just hope they will fix ALL the bugs..
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Yeah sure, my point was that it would be cool have a lot of voters in that poll xD, so Sony could have a clear view (with external data) of whats is more important and what is actually causing issues with the XSP...
And... sadly my hopes are not so big with the new frimmware, it was more than 2 weeks and is not released yet....
In my case my major bugs is battery drain in 3g (the sonyericcson.wakeup thing) and ram management... and actually, a repair with PCC taked off all other bugs for me, and I did it only once xD
hello dear xda community!
it has been a while since i was last here.
i owned a gs2 but made the move to ios with iphone 5 and currently use iphone 6.
I am considering buying note 4 (c variant with exynos)!mostly for the great screen ,battery life and not overheating( almost all other androids can cook your hand)
i lurked around here to do some digging and i keep seeing members having big problems with battery drains, overheating and slow down...( i will be skipping on note 5 as it will not come to europe and mostly because of no removable battery-micro sd)
have i missed something? is the big res scree bogging down the phone?
owning an iphone, performance is a given for me.
Please share your honest views since you own the device and help me make the move!
got sick of same damn thing and restrictions (ios)
My best advice to you would be stick with iOS. I own Note 4. Previously owned lots of flagship android phones and before that iPhone 3GS, 4S and 5S. I will shift to 6S when it will be available in my country because I am tired of bloated SW solutions from big firms and sick of flashing custom roms that almost never match the performanco of camera with stock. iOS is still the best SW you can get and I will stick with it for a while.
Regarding android IMHO Note 4 is the best you can hope taking other 2015 flahships in mind that are not worth the upgrade specialy with SD 810, no microSD and non-replacable battery that is getting smaller and smaller despite constant *****ing about it's insufficiencuy. With latest 5.1.1 it is realy fast, takes great pictures and battery life is awsome. I have no problems with it and till now it is as close to iOS experience as it gets.
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My best advice to you would be stick with iOS. I own Note 4. Previously owned lots of flagship android phones and before that iPhone 3GS, 4S and 5S. I will shift to 6S when it will be available in my country because I am tired of bloated SW solutions from big firms and sick of flashing custom roms that almost never match the performanco of camera with stock. iOS is still the best SW you can get and I will stick with it for a while.
Regarding android IMHO Note 4 is the best you can hope taking other 2015 flahships in mind that are not worth the upgrade specialy with SD 810, no microSD and non-replacable battery that is getting smaller and smaller despite constant *****ing about it's insufficiencuy. With latest 5.1.1 it is realy fast, takes great pictures and battery life is awsome. I have no problems with it and till now it is as close to iOS experience as it gets.
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For the OP!
Stick whit IOS my friend ....
My 910f is realy awsome whit 5.1.1, no overheat, no lag and superb battery, but ios much much better in stabiliti and before android 5.1.1 it has better performance.
you see, the thing is..what made me consider moving was the hideous battery life (iphone battery is epic bad-like..bards would sing of its loussiness).
and couple more every day stuff that really halt your schedule( try attaching two different file types-say 1 xls+1pdf on same mail in ios)
i guess i was hoping that it would be better with note 4, but from what you guys say it lacks stability on a very profound level..
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you see, the thing is..what made me consider moving was the hideous battery life (iphone battery is epic bad-like..bards would sing of its loussiness).
and couple more every day stuff that really halt your schedule( try attaching two different file types-say 1 xls+1pdf on same mail in ios)
i guess i was hoping that it would be better with note 4, but from what you guys say it lacks stability on a very profound level..
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hi ,
i guess there always 2 sides to a story . ?
I have a Note2 , Note3, and ... Note4 ( ........cannot say anything much, about Note5 ..!!)
All my devices battery ( removable ) life is good/acceptable , no overheating , smooth running and customized to my liking !!!!!! This is what i want and enjoying it .!!
I do not own a Iphone and thus cannot say much about it .!!
(Yes ,i have "played around " a few times ,with a Iphone in the phone shops and know its overall feel and workings )
Everytime i just put it down and say no i am happy with my Note4 .
All i can say is , in the end it is "what you want from your device...its you choice ."
So is it an an option ..... to have/own both ?
i want freedom of choice, ( customize etc ) and cannot see myself been tied down .
My message is only ,there nothing "wrong " with Note4
Hardware ,specs , removable battery and to do real multitasking on a device ? ...etc
Also i am on Android v 5.1.1 and device working very, very smooth .No issues .
However i have noticed some forum members have /had certain issues
good luck with your choice .
post entry
my observation of reading post and " my opinion" ,
regarding battery drainage in Note 4 is that a some members have either
3rd party apps or wrong settings or some" mod/theme " on phone responsible for this ( yes, i know not always ) eg facebook, whatsapp , gps location enable ,data always on ,etc... in some setting etc ( battery drainers ) or just badly coded apps or games .sucking away on battery.I had Note4 since October 2014 and had odd battery drain and always ( when investigating ) found 3rd party app or mod eg Xposed framework or module etc responsible for this .
Bottom line ,
is you only read mostly in threads, when members have a "problem " and hardly read post of members that is happy with performance/etc of device ?
good..this is what i want to hear..opinions based on real owner experiences!
just one more question!
is it true that since knox , i cannot root the device without it being permanently recorded? i mean, i remember being to erase such things on gs2 with stuff like triangle away app.. i dont care for flashing roms, rather than using my paid titanium app, adaway,root explorer and be able to freeze bloatware.
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good..this is what i want to hear..opinions based on real owner experiences!
just one more question!
is it true that since knox , i cannot root the device without it being permanently recorded? i mean, i remember being to erase such things on gs2 with stuff like triangle away app.. i dont care for flashing roms, rather than using my paid titanium app, adaway,root explorer and be able to freeze bloatware.
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hi,
yes, thats overall true eg. if you use dev @ chainfire CF auto root it will trip Knox.(this CF auto root method, is what i used overall. except in Android v5.1.1 it does not work so i used another method ) However you do get certain root
methods that won't trip Knox.
Don't ask me what method as i really was never interested in rooting this way.
My personal opinion of Knox is.. i see it as a "bogey man" it does not worry me as i got no interest in Knox features. .. or the attitude... "o what is Samsung warranty going to say.?"
That said...
I do however respect other members view on Knox.!
I wanted to enjoy my user experience and rooted my device way back in October 2014... never looked back.
My viewpoint is,
If something "happens" well then it "happens" an i will deal with it accordingly or get another device.
I just wanted you to get my viewpoint over, that overall Note4 is a very, very capable device..good at multi tasking, good battery use (overall) no overheating issues and very smooth and fast (just tweak right)
Good luck with your choice
to be honest as long as it works and battery performs , i am happy camper..i am familiar with androids plus and minuses..
I wouldn't get it now. On its stock rom the dpi is way too high, everything is so big on the screen and there is no added real estate from a phone such as the S6. As for performance I've never been happy (N910F) until 5.1, but on 5.1 I can't use per app dpi. Do not throw your money at Samsung, opt for a Moto (or even the new Sony Z5 series), they're much more consistent performers. You could even wait for the new Nexus 5 or 6 coming out next month which will have biometric sensors. The one on the Note 4 sucks haha.
If you want to use the Samsung apps then stay with Touchwiz and root it, I would currently recommend using this ROM
I know you said that you are not into flashing ROMs but I would recommend that you give CM a chance or if you want extra personalization then try other custom roms.
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If you want to use the Samsung apps then stay with Touchwiz and root it, I would currently recommend using this ROM
I know you said that you are not into flashing ROMs but I would recommend that you give CM a chance or if you want extra personalization then try other custom roms.
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i'd have no problem with flashing but custom roms never really get the camera app right or work well with ril files etc..
CM is very far from my taste although it has a sink ful of features.
i am almost set with giving up the iphone 6 for note 4.
just gonna wait till ios 9 gets previewed on wensday.
cant wait for a note 4 like battery, coming from i6.
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i'd have no problem with flashing but custom roms never really get the camera app right or work well with ril files etc..
CM is very far from my taste although it has a sink ful of features.
i am almost set with giving up the iphone 6 for note 4.
just gonna wait till ios 9 gets previewed on wensday.
cant wait for a note 4 like battery, coming from i6.
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I was not really happy with my Note 4 N910C until 5.1.1 came around.
More happy when I installed a stock pre-rooted ROM from Wanam and ultimate kernel then installed Note 5 theme and multi dpi for app.
My phone is very fast now, great battery too!
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I was not really happy with my Note 4 N910C until 5.1.1 came around.
More happy when I installed a stock pre-rooted ROM from Wanam and ultimate kernel then installed Note 5 theme and multi dpi for app.
My phone is very fast now, great battery too!
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that i could do!!
without the changed kernel..no matter how good, once tinkered there always is a bug hiding..would the stock pre-rooted triger the knox counter?
chris2busy said:
that i could do!!
without the changed kernel..no matter how good, once tinkered there always is a bug hiding..would the stock pre-rooted triger the knox counter?
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sadly yes.. But I don't care about warranty though, I trigger knox first day I bought my note 4.. Its just me, dunno bout you
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sadly yes.. But I don't care about warranty though, I trigger knox first day I bought my note 4.. Its just me, dunno bout you
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temptation of adaway and titanium backup etc are too great to pass..will see! lets hipe ios9 wont change my mind ?
Wanna trade your iPhone for my note 4 haha it's snaodragon but it's as new always used with a protective case! Haha.
Im thinking about going to iOs
HI all.
I'm a new Samsung Galaxy Note 4 owner! Recently upgraded from a Note 3. Phones are years old but are decently priced and still good phones when you're not looking for something too fancy.
Honestly, the Note 3 was the best phone I've ever had and was looking forward to a Note 4 upgrade (was looking forward to the fingerprint scanner, even if not the best, and to the metal edges)
Now, I'd just like to ask for a few pointers on this device. Any custom ROM suggestions? Anything I should know about?
I am doing my fair share of research, I've been reading a lot of posts regarding this device, posts that are months old, posts that are years old and I've gotten myself a general idea of what to expect.
But I think even with all this reading, I probably won't be able to compare what I learn from these posts to someone that has owned a Note 4 for months, possibly years! Which is why I'm posting this thread, to ask those who have had this device for a longer time and will probably continue to use it for a longer time since this phone is amazing!
I just want to ask you Note 4 owners, if you bought a brand new Note 4, what set-up will you prefer? Custom ROM? Stock ROM? Any kernels you would flash?
I know the best ROM will always be stock ROM, but is there any worth-while N7 ports for the Note 4? I'm a big fan of the off-screen memo, the smart screen capture (scroll and screen-recording that records gifs) and also enjoy tweaking the kernel (overclock) for smoother game performance. I've also read that the most common problem with ports is the fingerprint scanner. I'll probably end up doing the work-around since no custom ROM has gotten this fixed (from what I read it's almost impossible without leaving a lot of the stock ROM's assets which defeat the point of a custom ROM).
Currently, I am downloading stock EQI2 6.0.1 which is the latest firmware for the N910T variant. I know that the T-Mobile variant has it's own forum but I usually see that the "Samsung Galaxy Note 4" thread is the most active and sometimes includes things for the T-Mobile variant (was the same case with the Note 3, the T-Mobile forum was dead and the international forum was alive and well)
It's running 5.0.1 software right now, hopefully 6.0.1 is better.
Thank you for your time!
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
ripee said:
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
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Thanks for your input, I am currently trying out a Note 7 ROM port, but if it doesn't work out I will try it out
Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Been snooping around and messing with a couple of custom ROM's either with Note 7/8 features and S7 Edge/S8.
I really like the look overall to the stock Note 4 UI, but I seem to have a very bad luck with random reboots and some features missing (fingerprint) or not working (night clock).
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
Yup, I guess my motto came true. "The best ROM is always STOCK ROM", even if it looks a bit out-dated.
I'm currently running stock and a custom kernel I found for stock MM. I'm pleased with the results so far, just kind of wish I could boot straight in to camera with double HOME press
Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
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I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 3 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 4 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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Yeah, I'll take my precautions. Thank you for your input
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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The only small problem I have with stock is that it looks outdated. I know visuals are the least you should look for in a ROM, should be more worried about stability and battery life, but I simply can't deny that visually, stock TW UI bothers me.
But I guess I'll have to get used to it anyway since all the ROMs I've tried have issues here and there, but most importantly I get random shut downs and reboots with most custom ROMs and I lose the fingerprint scanner.
As for games, I heavily play a game called Shadowgun Deadzone. It's not that graphics heavy, but I need it to run smooth. I haven't tried Samsung's game booster, I've only messed around with custom kernels and changing the CPU governor, overclocking, etc... and it runs fine for a little while, but starts chugging after a few minutes in.
If the game booster can fix this, heck I can stick with stock ROM without any problems.
When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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A launcher can only do so much. I'm referring to mostly on things like the notification drawer, the settings and stuff like that.