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Nexus 4 on Android 4.1

Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?

furyoflight1029 said:
Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?
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Cupcake and Donut had the best batterylife :silly:

you not getting great battery life?, the nexus 4 is great with JB, try franco kernel for improvement, i got an extra 1.5 hours screen time due to it.

Nexus 4 only supports 4.2 and upwards

Find a 2.1 ROM for the Nexus One and flash it to the Nexus 4. The battery life will blow your mind.
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I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.

Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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plznote said:
Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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pretty sure it does. battery life will probably last forever.

furyoflight1029 said:
I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.
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Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.

estallings15 said:
Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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It has been proven multiple times that the optimus g and other devices with similar hardware have way better battery life than the nexus 4. just look for some battery benchmarks.
Furthermore, 4.2 seems more resource heavy than 4.1 was, which again leads to a higher CPU, along with other stuff, usage, which in the end results in worse battery life.
Whatever it is, there is a difference between the optimus g and the nexus 4.

estallings15 said:
Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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First of all, I was only giving an opinion; i did say "seems", did i not? I don't need to prove anything to you, because it has already been proven. Search endurance rating for both phones. You make it sound like I was trying to start an argument, well, I'm not. I only wanted to know, the so called "IF" it will actually improve battery life. Seeing that you're an active member of this forum, I assumed you would know, that Android version used does indeed affect battery life. If you're not posting anything helpful (like the few peeps above, for the sake of trolling), then please don't.

Nuu~ said:
just look for some battery benchmarks.
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You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..

styckx said:
You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..
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I'm not a lawyer and this isn't a lawsuit. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
I stated that there are enough evidences out there which can be found easily with a simple Google search. If someone is interested in refuting my statements, he can go ahead and do so. I'm not going to spoonfeed everything.

I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!

Zorachus said:
I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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ROM? Kernel? Please
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nschiwy said:
Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!
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Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?

furyoflight1029 said:
Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?
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I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.

nschiwy said:
I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.
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I was aware of the fact that older versions are incompatible, which was why I joked too. But, I'm not aware of whether 4.1 would be compatible since it's still relatively new. I think you misunderstood, I wasn't defending the title; simply arguing with some of the things people said, like estallings15 and you. You may be more knowledgeable about this than I'm, but by no means, would i have to agree that searching for new ways, to improve my battery life is bad.

XupModz said:
ROM? Kernel? Please
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Just checked my stays right now. 5h 32m On Screen time. Total time off charger 12 hours. Battery at 19%
I get 5h + On Screen time every day.
Xylon ROM 02-23 build + Matrix kernel v7.0
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[Q] Coming from a Nexus 4, will the switch to the G2 be a good thing?

I've had my nexus 4 since it launched in late 2012, is been great but I can't put up with the bad battery life anymore. Even under clocked it, changed kernals, used other ROMs then coming back to the latest stock. Nothing I did could improve it without significantly crippling the phone performance to the point of making it unusable! But besides that, it's been a nice slick device, bit on the simple side but it delivered
Anyway enough on the nexus 4, I'm getting a refurbished G2 tomorrow, paid an amazing price for it same as the nexus 4 when I bought that.
Is there anything I should know our expect coming from someone who is very used to stock android, and the nexus 4 in general hardware side? Have I got lots to look forward to, or should I keep my expectations low and for those that come from the same device as me and now own the g2, let me know!

It will be good I also switch from nexus 4
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Also switched from Nexus 4,got Phone now for a week, very happy with it, still on stock 4.4.2 rom, rooted and using xposed, great battery life and Realy smooth
I was thinking of installing the Nexus 5 based rom you can find in the development section, but I am happy with the stock rom
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skrillex13 said:
It will be good I also switch from nexus 4
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I agree, I think G2 is perfect size though. Anything bigger is just too much.

Thanks for the replies! Will do a quick review of it when I get it in the morning or late at night after I come home from work, well see when the postie arrives hah. Been really looking forward to it! Will I miss the build quality of the Nexus 4?

G2 stock is fast and responsive. The custom roms make it all the more smoother.
I used to do all the tweaks to conserve battery in my previous phone, in G2 I'm just trying out all the new roms, not worrying about not having enough battery at all. The focus has turned to performance, since battery is no longer an issue

MDaveUK said:
Thanks for the replies! Will do a quick review of it when I get it in the morning or late at night after I come home from work, well see when the postie arrives hah. Been really looking forward to it! Will I miss the build quality of the Nexus 4?
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I came from a Nexus 4 as well and I find the G2 better in every way...there is no comparison it's in a different league. The only thing I miss is the quick OS updates.
I wasnt sure how I would like running a phone with it's own spin on the UI, and had intended to flash a ROM with a more Nexus type experience, but I actually really like a lot of the extra features that LG has baked in to the OS.
Cheers,
Faugly

The battery's roughly twice the life of nexus 4, maybe even better.. Go get it
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farhanito said:
The battery's roughly twice the life of nexus 4, maybe even better.. Go get it
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So glad to read that hah. I should be getting it in a few hours now, what's the first thing I should do with it?

MDaveUK said:
So glad to read that hah. I should be getting it in a few hours now, what's the first thing I should do with it?
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Came form a Nexus 4 as well. Had the G2 months now, and it is by far a better phone. I kind of miss the glass feel of the Nexus, but it's a very minor whinge is that.
As for first thing to do with it . . . . Set it up, and run it in, may as well leave it completely stock to see how you like that first. Then start tweaking, Nova launcher + Root + Custom Recovery + Xposed + Custom Kernel + Xdabbeb camera mod. I've got all that done, getting around 40-46 hours battery life with 5-6 hours screen on time at 60% brightness permanently and plenty of normal usage and still have 5% battery life left. If I was a very very light user, getting 3 days out of it would be easy.

mgolder said:
Came form a Nexus 4 as well. Had the G2 months now, and it is by far a better phone. I kind of miss the glass feel of the Nexus, but it's a very minor whinge is that.
As for first thing to do with it . . . . Set it up, and run it in, may as well leave it completely stock to see how you like that first. Then start tweaking, Nova launcher + Root + Custom Recovery + Xposed + Custom Kernel + Xdabbeb camera mod. I've got all that done, getting around 40-46 hours battery life with 5-6 hours screen on time at 60% brightness permanently and plenty of normal usage and still have 5% battery life left. If I was a very very light user, getting 3 days out of it would be easy.
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Awesome, thanks for the tips! I'll run it on stock for a day or 2 then But I'm sure I'll be itching to try all the mods that you listed hah. I just discovered that it weighs almost the same as the Nexus 4?! Amazing phone really Hurry up ParcelForce and bring it to me, this is my day off work, don't let it go to waste lol.

MDaveUK said:
Awesome, thanks for the tips! I'll run it on stock for a day or 2 then But I'm sure I'll be itching to try all the mods that you listed hah. I just discovered that it weighs almost the same as the Nexus 4?! Amazing phone really Hurry up ParcelForce and bring it to me, this is my day off work, don't let it go to waste lol.
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I will admit that even though I stayed completely stock for ages, as in using lg launcher etc, I always disable things like qslide and all the other things they added, apart from knock on obviously, as that is now something I couldn't live without.

Alright got it I've played around with it for about an hour, messing with settings and setting up my accounts on various apps, all ready to go.
First impression is wow, its beautiful Such a nice screen! And it actually feels lighter then my nexus 4 because of the weight distribution of it in your hand, its spread out more across your hand so it feels lighter then it really is. Great job LG! I do miss the glass feel a tiny bit, I don't mind the plastic feel to be honest, I have dry hands so it actually has a good grip compared to glass for me! I realise I need root already though, because of my precious Titanium Backup going to figure that out next!
Overall first impressions of the hardware and software is very good, glad to see the standards are raised up so high these days, and this is the result.
Oh man the first thing I wanted to do was change that default notification and ring sound STRAIGHT AWAY! So cheesy and blaaaaah! I liked the 'Pick up your phone' choir though, had a good laugh from that one

S5 good enough to pull me away from '13 Moto X?

Currently have a Moto X Dev Edition, bought it back almost a year ago I believe. I like the phone but the camera sucks and the battery could be better. It's super slick and smooth, rarely have any issues with it except for Bluetooth from time to time. But I'm also already noticing a little bit of screen burn-in, and I'm not on my phone 24/7 either. I've always questioned Motorola's AMOLED screen quality, I had an S3 and S4 and those screens were great. Plus I miss having expandable memory so I don't have to stream all of my 20+ GB of music through Google Play Music...
Long story short, it's time to replace the X. I thought about the Turbo but the lack of voice/data usage, the marginally better camera, and reports of poor wifi reception are keeping me away, not to mention the brightness also is subpar. After having the S4 and all it's laggy problems, I said no more Samsung phones, but it seems the S5 is greatly improved. My choices right now are the S5, G3, the new Sony whateveritis, and possibly the Note 4 but that's pushing the size limit a little bit.
Thoughts?

I'm back on the S5 after 4 days on the Turbo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56473349&postcount=87

timeToy said:
I'm back on the S5 after 4 days on the Turbo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56473349&postcount=87
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what rom are you on?

elliwigy said:
what rom are you on?
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I'm running BeansTown106 Stock ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...rom-stock-root-odex-deodex-knox-free-t2882101
with a bunch of disabled bloat and with some Xposed modules.

timeToy said:
I'm running BeansTown106 Stock ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...rom-stock-root-odex-deodex-knox-free-t2882101
with a bunch of disabled bloat and with some Xposed modules.
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nice. i can usually get that or better on my rom but then again ppl like some of the bloat lmao.
i personally went back to my ne9 build just cuz the theming.. i themed it even further black/white so now its even better at battery savings

elliwigy said:
nice. i can usually get that or better on my rom but then again ppl like some of the bloat lmao.
i personally went back to my ne9 build just cuz the theming.. i themed it even further black/white so now its even better at battery savings
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I've been seeing a lot of that lately... monochromatic theming. It used to be years ago you had to make your ROMs colorful with custom icons, now it's all about battery savings.
Who am I kidding... my wallpaper themes are usually mostly black for the same reason.

Alright, I don't want to open a new thread but I do have a couple more questions related to the original topic.
Is the S5 still worth buying this late in the game, or do people have a better suggestion for a device? I tried the Note 4, too damn big.
Also, I take it NI2 is the most recent update, and if so can it be rooted successfully at this point?

triton302 said:
Alright, I don't want to open a new thread but I do have a couple more questions related to the original topic.
Is the S5 still worth buying this late in the game, or do people have a better suggestion for a device? I tried the Note 4, too damn big.
Also, I take it NI2 is the most recent update, and if so can it be rooted successfully at this point?
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Yep... rooted my N12 and running safe strap. Did it 2 weeks ago brand new S5. Some are holding out for the Nexus 6 as it will have an unlocked bootloader. Thread for rooting is here in the forums. (GUIDE) JTIDLER Under the S5 General area
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Who is really missing Rooting and Roming?

I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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To be honest bro, I have the s7 edge at home for Verizon & I use the Nexus 6p as my daily. It's just how smooth and fast this phone is, touchwiz laggs like crazy compared to my Nexus 6p on beans rom, also I'm running my rooted apps like servicely and I get better battery life. If the s7 edge had root and unlocked bootloader no doubt it would whoop the Nexus 6p, but currently it just doesn't man.

Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.

obstinate1 said:
Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Your kidding right?
Alpha release, if you believe that you don't understand alpha, beta, and shipping releases. This is obviously a shipping release. Very few bugs.
I've never had anice emulator run games as well as a flagship. Root is/was useful when companies couldn't put their bloatware on the phones without causing all kinds of havoc on the system. Now between cutting a bunch of bloat and increasing the specs the flagship store run super well.
I'm really not sure why you would say it's an alpha release, maybe you have a bad device and should return it.
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I miss root a lot, as well as tinkering around. I imagine if root doesn't happen in the next month or two I may be tempted to sell S7E. I am not loyal to any cell until it's really rootable. Options are everything.
Have their been any announcements on any teams or members working on root, or is this something people don't want to say in the event they are unsuccessful?

I'm rather enjoying using Samsung Pay at the moment. Can't say I'd want to lose that by messing with things.

Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!

cpufrost said:
Then, those who like to play around, increase instability, and decrease system security can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Fixed it for you. If we're going to post negotiate about one side, might add well be honest and post them about both.
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cpufrost said:
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Minus the 3Mint (never heard of it), I miss all of the above, in addition to Viper4Android. Man. The stock equalizer is aight, but I can't get half the power that I did out of Viper. And I never realized how many of my apps and pages had ads until I didn't have AdAway/root. I've developed, so I realize you have to make money, but most ads are most of the time inherently dangerous.

OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.

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OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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Dead on. I wasted a few years on the nexus program. It's fun but very tedious. Now I just enjoy my games and use my device. The fiancé much enjoys me not up late at night resetting things up due to a bad flash, bug, etc.
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Bxrider117 said:
I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.

jackscagnetti said:
I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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Sounds like you are actually agreeing with him...
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That is what I mean. With rooting phones it becomes slightly tedious.
My wife has an iPhone and I admired how that phone just works with very few hiccups. I don't believe any phone is perfect, but I like Android better and I feel this phone is close to being perfect with a few quirks.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.

mugsy77 said:
The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
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I'm the same. Working ad-blocker is a big deal for me. Among other things. May end up buying it out and selling it on swappa.

Hotspot

2swizzle said:
I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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But if you use the Samsung browser you CAN use AD blocker without root, as it supports it as an add in. Google it.
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eloko said:
Hotspot
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Foxfi
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Back to the Nexus Family

I just got my Nexus 5x. The last Nexus phone I've had was a 4 and it was awesome but I had to leave the Nexus line alone because my phone company wouldn't sell nor cover them with insurance.
Now I have an 5x coming from a Galaxy S7 and I must say this phone blows out my s7 every way ... But I don't understand how with the specs being lower than the s7. Can somebody explain?
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samsung is bloated with fearures, which means more running services. also bigger resolution need more juice
that being said, i doubt that s7 has nothing over 5x, especially with 5x's meh speaker..
in any case, this is the best time to join the "nexus peasants" as there is 7.1.1 beta ongoing. most users say its stable and better than 7.0 and personally i gained 1h sot (3 to 4)

My phone's battery is really well over my s7. I work 12 hours and around hour 4 my phone is dead. My Nexus last me all shift
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How do I join the beta
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bhunna713 said:
My phone's battery is really well over my s7. I work 12 hours and around hour 4 my phone is dead. My Nexus last me all shift
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Really only 4 hours? I highly doubt that but okay. I work 12s too but barely get to use my 5X so I'm around 45-55% by the time I'm off my shift.
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How do I join the beta
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https://www.google.com/android/beta
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EeZeEpEe said:
Really only 4 hours? I highly doubt that but okay. I work 12s too but barely get to use my 5X so I'm around 45-55% by the time I'm off my shift.
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Yes with my s7 the battery life sucked. I always had to bring a charger with me everywhere I go
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bhunna713 said:
I just got my Nexus 5x. The last Nexus phone I've had was a 4 and it was awesome but I had to leave the Nexus line alone because my phone company wouldn't sell nor cover them with insurance.
Now I have an 5x coming from a Galaxy S7 and I must say this phone blows out my s7 every way ... But I don't understand how with the specs being lower than the s7. Can somebody explain?
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Isn't it a little too much to prefer Nexus 5x over S7???? Really guys, Nexus 5x is a good phone for its current price but saying it is better than S7 doesn't make sense.
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myawan said:
Isn't it a little too much to prefer Nexus 5x over S7???? Really guys, Nexus 5x is a good phone for its current price but saying it is better than S7 doesn't make sense.
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Spec wise I was better but it's not better to me when I can't mod, or utilize those cool features without my phone constantly dying on me. When I had my s7 I was always somewhere by an outlet.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Really only 4 hours? I highly doubt that but okay. I work 12s too but barely get to use my 5X so I'm around 45-55% by the time I'm off my shift.
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I also often work 10s and 12s. I think the real battery gain lies in excellent standby time we get from this phone. I can work all day with about an hour of heavy usage throughout the shift, LTE enabled most of the day and still have 60-70% by the time I get home (including another hour of use listening to music in the car). My standby time is phenomenal. The fact that I have a custom ROM and kernel tweaks undoubtedly adds battery life, but I hear stock N is pretty comparable...but as they say, your mileage may vary.
However, I can tell you from personal experience that Galaxy battery life is usually abysmal

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Yes with my s7 the battery life sucked. I always had to bring a charger with me everywhere I go
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Root that 5x,install Viper4Arise add @guitardedhero's audiophile profile and.irs samples and you got the best sound system ever! I work in the music business and with Viper installed I carry a hi fidelity sound system in my pocket. I used to do the "Samsung Galaxy Thing"but after I dropped it, I bought a Galaxy Nexus,then the Nexus 4,5,6,5x,&6p and I still have em all in the box in mint Condition. IN MY OPINION, YOU CANNOT GET A BETTER,MORE RELIABLE,ALWAYS CUTTING EDGE,& ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BRICK.My moto Nexus 6 had a hole in the top of the screen,about 2" in diameter(from my 2y/o.)& It kept rocking for another year before I had to replace it.

StakMak99 said:
Root that 5x,install Viper4Arise add @guitardedhero's audiophile profile and.irs samples and you got the best sound system ever! I work in the music business and with Viper installed I carry a hi fidelity sound system in my pocket. I used to do the "Samsung Galaxy Thing"but after I dropped it, I bought a Galaxy Nexus,then the Nexus 4,5,6,5x,&6p and I still have em all in the box in mint Condition. IN MY OPINION, YOU CANNOT GET A BETTER,MORE RELIABLE,ALWAYS CUTTING EDGE,& ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BRICK.My moto Nexus 6 had a hole in the top of the screen,about 2" in diameter(from my 2y/o.)& It kept rocking for another year before I had to replace it.
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How do I install? I'm really BIG on music and would enjoy stereo speakers. I have one big question. If I root, will I still be able to instill the 7.1 ota when it comes out through my phone?
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OGNatan said:
The fact that I have a custom ROM and kernel tweaks undoubtedly adds battery life, but I hear stock N is pretty comparable...but as they say, your mileage may vary.
However, I can tell you from personal experience that Galaxy battery life is usually abysmal
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with my usage i always got close to 3h sot and i have tried plenty of kernels, profiles and roms. only with 7.1.1 stock i get reliably 4h, heck my worst sot was when an app crapped out and drained 25% over 4 hours while i wasnt using the phone.. and i still got 3.30h sot out of it !!
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How do I install? I'm really BIG on music and would enjoy stereo speakers. I have one big question. If I root, will I still be able to instill the 7.1 ota when it comes out through my phone?
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there is a mod to make your phone stereo, i used it and its ok but its very hard to balance the speakers and it affects other sounds like calls or ringing, so you cant increase/decrease balance too much before it becomes incovenient. also its impossible to balance them anyway cause the bottom is bassier, so you balance it for a song and its all over the place in the next.
i imagine you flash viper like you do all zips, have not used it since years
if your root is systemless then you receive OTA just fine. heck, i received ota while i was using stock+ rom, flash kernel, hawktail profile, thermal engine edits, was rooted and had custom recovery xD

Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
with my usage i always got close to 3h sot and i have tried plenty of kernels, profiles and roms. only with 7.1.1 stock i get reliably 4h, heck my worst sot was when an app crapped out and drained 25% over 4 hours while i wasnt using the phone.. and i still got 3.30h sot out of it !!
there is a mod to make your phone stereo, i used it and its ok but its very hard to balance the speakers and it affects other sounds like calls or ringing, so you cant increase/decrease balance too much before it becomes incovenient. also its impossible to balance them anyway cause the bottom is bassier, so you balance it for a song and its all over the place in the next.
i imagine you flash viper like you do all zips, have not used it since years
if your root is systemless then you receive OTA just fine. heck, i received ota while i was using stock+ rom, flash kernel, hawktail profile, thermal engine edits, was rooted and had custom recovery xD
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So if I root stock 7.0 with root tool kit, I will not have a problem with ota coming to my phone. Will I lose root when the ota comes? The only reason I want root is because i can so something about these speakers
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bhunna713 said:
How do I install? I'm really BIG on music and would enjoy stereo speakers. I have one big question. If I root, will I still be able to instill the 7.1 ota when it comes out through my phone?
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Ota breaks root...NEVER OTA... I use wugfresh's Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock then go through the root process on the new image. I am not running 7.1, I haven't tried it yet,works like a beast on 7.0, look up the Viper4arise forum right here on XDA, and VERY CAREFULLY READ THE ENTIRE OP BEFORE YOU BEGIN.Or you can really screw up if you don't know what you are doing,if you do,root then install the latest Deut. with audiophile profile.You can flash through TWRP but you have to extract the Audiophile profile and copy profile onto your SD or internal storage,or into the Viper4android folder that was installed when you flashed the appropriate zip.

StakMak99 said:
Ota breaks root...NEVER OTA... I use wugfresh's Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock then go through the root process on the new image. I am not running 7.1, I haven't tried it yet,works like a beast on 7.0, look up the Viper4arise forum right here on XDA, and VERY CAREFULLY READ THE ENTIRE OP BEFORE YOU BEGIN.Or you can really screw up if you don't know what you are doing,if you do,root then install the latest Deut. with audiophile profile.You can flash through TWRP but you have to extract the Audiophile profile and copy profile onto your SD or internal storage,or into the Viper4android folder that was installed when you flashed the appropriate zip.
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Is root really worth it nowadays? Last time I rooted a phone was my Nexus 4 when it first came out and I used AOKP. Im fine with stock 7.0 features as they do me well. I just want to do something about the speakers.
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bhunna713 said:
Is root really worth it nowadays? Last time I rooted a phone was my Nexus 4 when it first came out and I used AOKP. Im fine with stock 7.0 features as they do me well. I just want to do something about the speakers.
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Right on!! I hear ya about rooting your phone,but nowadays you don't have to give up total security with having root.Systemless Root is just fine for me,it keeps me encrypted and allows me the freedom to Install system apps,Roms,custom recovery and install Viper.Your SElinux is still enforcing protection,but read carefully everything on here,just because one dude's triumph can be another ones brick.Read EVERYTHING VERY CAREFULLY,AND VERY THOROUGHLY. If you get stumped, one of these great devs on here will help you,as long as the question isn't redundant.PLEASE READ AND MAKE SURE THE ? HAS NOT BEEN ASKED BEFORE.THE DEVS.ON HERE WORK HARD TO HELP US WITH OUR PROBLEMS,99.9% OF THE TIME FOR FREE,SO IF IT TAKES READING THAT LIL BIT EXTRA TO GET YOUR ANSWER,YOU WILL BE THAT MUCH WISER FOR IT.

bhunna713 said:
Is root really worth it nowadays? Last time I rooted a phone was my Nexus 4 when it first came out and I used AOKP. Im fine with stock 7.0 features as they do me well. I just want to do something about the speakers.
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before 7.1.1 i would say yes, otherwise no unless you want more customization (though xposed is not released for nougat)
as i said, you better not do anything about the speakers as there is no way to balance them, and after only a week not using the stereo mod i honestly dont feel like i miss it
maybe you can install viper as stakmak advices

Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
with my usage i always got close to 3h sot and i have tried plenty of kernels, profiles and roms. only with 7.1.1 stock i get reliably 4h, heck my worst sot was when an app crapped out and drained 25% over 4 hours while i wasnt using the phone.. and i still got 3.30h sot out of it !!
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Have you looked into Greenify/Amplify and such? I know they can be hit or miss, but I consistently get 5-6h sot that way along with Dirty Unicorns ROM and EX kernel. LTE on most of the time, and some gaming. For the record though, I could never break 4h sot on stock M. Same with N dev preview. Too erratic.

OGNatan said:
Have you looked into Greenify/Amplify and such? I know they can be hit or miss, but I consistently get 5-6h sot that way along with Dirty Unicorns ROM and EX kernel. LTE on most of the time, and some gaming. For the record though, I could never break 4h sot on stock M. Same with N dev preview. Too erratic.
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no xposed for nugat yet
other than that greenify would be useless on nougat, and since the standby drain is great i doubt amplify would do much too. its just my usage thats special, 5x on 7.1.1 has the best battery on any phone i owned and it lasts a day so its certainly not bad

Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
no xposed for nugat yet
other than that greenify would be useless on nougat, and since the standby drain is great i doubt amplify would do much too. its just my usage thats special, 5x on 7.1.1 has the best battery on any phone i owned and it lasts a day so its certainly not bad
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I guess the point is, as long as you're happy with it, stick with what works