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Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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Remove all bloatware and preinstalled apps u don't use etc etc ... since u were rooted u should know the drill to lighten the load ...
If you buy the i9505 u can also install stock android rom just as the i9505g(google edition) has
But if you want touchwiz or any of the samsung features, to my experience and we are talking about stock ... the i9500 seem to have fewer lagging issues ...
I bought my S4 to replace a nexus 4. Had the same boredom feeling about vanilla android experience so I ended up using this i9505. It's a great device IF you manage somehow to deal with lag and stutters all over the place (speaking of Tw stock roms ofc). I really can't understand why a hardware beast like this has to lag more than my very old S2. So, in terms of lag (that was your Q) you'll be disappointed... in all other terms it's still one of the best.
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battle1 said:
Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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I considered the HTC one and nexus 4 also, but the S4 screen just looks stunning (even though the HTC's is supposedly better in direct sunlight). The screen looks huge (although its become normal to me now) and even though its not that much bigger than the HTC's, it still looks a lot bigger when side by side.
Its certainly not a slow device and is actually very smooth but you can definitely do plenty to improve things. As mentioned above, I removed a lot of bloat apps that I dont use/won't miss. I also started using greenify to hibernate apps running in the background. Another simple thing is change the animation speeds to 0.5x, I also do this on my nexus 7 as it makes it feel snappier as well (not that its slow). There are also the options of a lot of custom ROMs, some that are simply stock look with touchwiz, but tweaked/optimised for speed/battery life.
There is also the option of AOSP/CM/Google Edition ROMs if you want something leaner. Plus there are a couple of methods of dual booting if you want the best of both worlds. The speed and simplicity of stock android is great, but its also great to enjoy all of the bells and whistle features that Samsung added (that you paid for!).
So are those roms you mentioned that are based on touchwiz lag-free?
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So are those roms you mentioned that are based on touchwiz lag-free?
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There will definitely be a lot less lag than the standard stock ROM, although you'd really need to test yourself to see how they perform for you. There's usually plenty of comments in the ROM threads on how people find them, so they're worth a read.
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To be honest I have a lot less lags with stock rom than with any custom rom (apart from aosp)... I just use rooted stock rom with xposed framework... fast and snappy.. can't complain...
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To be honest I have a lot less lags with stock rom than with any custom rom (apart from aosp)... I just use rooted stock rom with xposed framework... fast and snappy.. can't complain...
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I'm currently on rooted stock also and it's great, if its laggy then its certainly not laggy enough for me to want to keep switching ROMs or even change phone. As much as people say how great sense is on the HTC one, it looks so dull and unfinished to me. And I know it's a real improvement as I've had htcs and seen it go from a rich ui to a bloated clunky mess. But you hand someone your s4 and you usually see how impressed they are with the stunning colourful display.
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Stock rom with Nova Launcher installed has no lag. Touchwhiz launcher is the issue
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Stock rom with Nova Launcher installed has no lag. Touchwhiz launcher is the issue
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Yep, as always Nova is like butter, its a great launcher.
I dont want nova, ive used it with.many other skins and i just dont want to use it. I dont care if people get impressed by it, i want a phone that will keep me for at least a year and a half and i know note 3 seems a abetter solution but without lags, i can still be happy with s4 for a while. What about kernels? Franco kernel for gnex helps a lot as ive used it. What about s4?
hi!
So I can upgrade to Note 3 for about $150 and would like to know, how the experience has been for you guys.
Coming from Rom and kernel flashing addiction I might feel a bit trapped with note 3 but then again, with so much power, OCing may not be as exciting as it was on Note 2 to run MAME reloaded for example or some higher end games.
Thanks for any comments.
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I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Only thing I miss is playing around with OC'ing. Not really necessary on the 3. Really was not necessary on the 2 either.
Non of the ROM's could compare to the stock debloated ROM on the note 2 for battery life (they were close), and I would expect similar results if we were to get the boot loader unlocked. The difference was small so the features/benefits of a custom ROM far outweighed staying stock.
With root and xposed modules on the note 3, don't see the need to flash a custom ROM. A custom kernel would be nice though that would allow Playing with clock speeds and the like.
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I agree with what everyone said. I remember you from the Note 2 threads, and I know you were in the kernel threads quite a bit helping people out and maxing out your Note 2, lol.
I honestly don't see any lag whatsoever with rooting, debloating, and using wanam exposed like the guys above mentioned. I never even used xposed installer or wanam until I got the note 3. I'm actually surprised I never tried it on the Note 2. It's very useful. I guess I never had to considering I was always flashing roms and themes that took care of the customizations.
$150 is worth the upgrade in my honest opinion. I'm sure somewhere somehow a bootloader unlock is around the corner in some computer genius's lair, lol. Despite that, you won't be disappointed with the stock. I use Nova Launcher and customized my DPI with xposed and rom toolbox lite. Really makes everything look great to me. Everything works just like on my Note 2, even flash. Just make a titanium backup of your Note 2 for your apps and make sure that folder is on your sdcard, then transfer that folder to your sdcard and your phone memory, and you're good to restore. Unless you prefer starting fresh, up to you. I restored my Nova launcher preferences with the apps quite easily to keep the same look. So it wasn't a big change for me visually except a much crisper screen. The camera is amazing. I've taken 4K video and it's just great. Battery life is solid too despite being stock. It also is lighter than the Note 2 so that's a plus as well.
Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
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Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
Like mutantblack, I use to have note 2 with Clean Rom. Never needed a rom but Clean Rom was simply awesome. It saved me a lot of time debloating. Now with note 3, root+wanam+xposed is like Clean Rom all over again.
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
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Hey man I'm gonna take it from your post your rooted...Just download root app delete from the play store...Open it up...Go into system apps...and disable all 4 Knox apps...Once they're disabled those messages will dissappear...
As to the op...I still have my att note 2 and now have att note 3...The biggest improvements for me are the camera, which is so much better than note 2 in terms of clarity, speed, and color reproduction it's amazing...2nd is the s pen finally has the precision and feel of true writing...lastly is the experience of tw; on note 2 I found I needed apex launcher and many rooted customizations to make the note 2 perform how I felt it should given its already great hardware. With note 3 I still run apex occasionally but love the improved tw experience, lag free, fast, and clean on note 3
What I miss of note 2, the battery life. The batter life on my Note 2 was astounding. With note 3 I find I only get about 3 to 4 hours of on screen time vs 5 to 5.5 hours on note 2. But this can be remedied with another backup batter and for all the note 3 offers in terms of speed, gorgeous 1080 screen, and features galore it's an easy tradeoff.
So summing up, note 2 was a major bump over note 1, but note 3 set a new standard in my eyes for what a super phone is. Note 3 hands down...and in time I feel well have some form of cwm and romming but maybe not at the level of note 2, though as others have mentioned it's really not necessary anymore. Samsung hit it outta the park with note 3.
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Remember you can always buy a T-mobie note 3 and run it on ATT AMD then you can still flash your Roms and kernels. You could get your ATT upgrade then sell that for a T-Mobile device, that's what I did.
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The stock rom runs better than a few custom roms,.... However we do not have custom kernels nor can we flash different ROM due to the boot loader being locked. In my opinion the phone is a lot snappier smooth here and the screen is a helluva lot better. Remote control features amazin and the battery is even better than my note 2. However route is a must and either the leading or freezing the extra bloatware is necessary to achieve such performance
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I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Yes yes and yes agreed with that I upgraded and paided for the full 750 I know I know lol but I think it was worth it here's a couple of more things to Note
1. The screen is drop dead gorgeous!! Omfg I love this screen!!
2.Its faster "duh"
3.The camrea is very good too!! Love the camera )
4. Same battery life "CANT WAIT for ZeroLemon and case!!
Its up to you but yes I think its worth enough
As a former note2 owner who bought the note3 on release day, I think it boils down to how important flashing custom roms is to you. I have my note3 rooted and really debloated and it is running awesome. And I thought that would be good enough for me. But last week I bought an LGG2 so that I could continue flashing and tweaking stuff. Even though this phone is the perfect hardware I am really irritated that I am not allowed to choose what software to run on it. So tomorrow when the g2 arrives this phone will probably go into a desk drawer or to one of my kids until someone can resolve the custom recovery issue.
But this is a hobby for me. Im the guy who installs whatever the latest distro of Linux came out this month and I rarely have a machine running the same distro longer than 90 days. ..so im kind of a freak like that.
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How did you get the 150 upgrade offer?
Sorry it was not an offer, I was calculating selling mine and getting a used note 3.
Note 2 with cm 11 kit kat was awsome. Daughter broke phone and insurance sent the 3. Sucks with locked bootloader.
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With Xposed, Wanam, Safe Strap, Apex or other decent launcher and a Kit Kat theme or two there REALLY isnt a need for custom roms. The Note 3 can have pretty much any system mod and tweak any rom would bring and you wont lose the IR Blaster support thats built in and Safe Strap allows you the capability to backup the current state before tweaking.
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I ended up going a different way after all as you can see on my sig. Maybe Note 4 but I am getting so used to the huge Xperia Z Ultra that not sure anymore.
What's the chances of us seeing production for the GS6 anytime after its release date? Only because its rocking the "Exynos processor" which has delayed a couple projects for GS4 and GS5 in previous occasions. And knox is stronger than ever before according to Samsung's MWC presentation..
What are your thoughts on this.. will development be slow as it was on the GS5?
Thanks in advance!
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What's the chances of us seeing production for the GS6 anytime after its release date? Only because its rocking the "Exynos processor" which has delayed a couple projects for GS4 and GS5 in previous occasions. And knox is stronger than ever before according to Samsung's MWC presentation..
What are your thoughts on this.. will development be slow as it was on the GS5?
Thanks in advance!
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I predict it will take several months after release before we see any AOSP/CM support. Samsung is really bad about releasing firmware documentation as is, the new processor will probably complicate things further. It seems like they don't want people in control of their devices, even going as far as to lock bootloaders...
The AT&T variant of GS5 doesn't have a functional CM yet, so I wouldn't count on it happening anytime soon. I would like the option, but I can live with a debloated TW rom like I have.
Well, I wouldn't really care. Why spend to dollar on cutting edge hardware to put buggy, featureless firmware that isn't optimized for it anyway.
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Well, I wouldn't really care. Why spend to dollar on cutting edge hardware to put buggy, featureless firmware that isn't optimized for it anyway.
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Then you're obviously in the wrong topic.
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Well, I wouldn't really care. Why spend to dollar on cutting edge hardware to put buggy, featureless firmware that isn't optimized for it anyway.
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Because that's what makes android open source, customizable, don't you wanna be able to under/overclock your kernel to save battery? Featureless? Ill take the privilege of being able to customize any day over gimmicky features[emoji110]
slim with aosp based roms. you should be able to get stockish based roms and kernels though.
With exynos, i think not
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Because that's what makes android open source, customizable, don't you wanna be able to under/overclock your kernel to save battery? Featureless? Ill take the privilege of being able to customize any day over gimmicky features[emoji110]
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But you are a small minority and the majority don't care one bit about AOSP Roms and under/over clock. So better get used to it as Samsung and every other company in this game is in for the money not the minorities pleasure.
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But you are a small minority and the majority don't care one bit about AOSP Roms and under/over clock. So better get used to it as Samsung and every other company in this game is in for the money not the minorities pleasure.
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100% correct[emoji106] harsh but correct...but my question is: will the devs have a way around it??
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But you are a small minority and the majority don't care one bit about AOSP Roms and under/over clock. So better get used to it as Samsung and every other company in this game is in for the money not the minorities pleasure.
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Are there any large minorities?
Also here on XDA those who want to hack, tweak and mod their phones are the majority. And there always were manufacturers who were willing to produce very good quality phones that were relatively easy to unlock and flash custom recoveries. And they sometimes also used quite open architecture, like the Qalcomm SOCs.
Samsung was one of these, but lately the whole knox=warranty business started to make it a lot harder to root phones. Although those who didn't care for their knox warranty flags, were able to flash custom roms early. (I waited the whole year before I tripped my knox)
But with the S6 they changed three things at the same time: brought back Exynos, removed the external sd card, and sealed the battery in. For the first thing, it's Qualcomm who the real cuplrit is, because they mucked up their 64bit processor. But the rest is Apple's fault, including then need to produce a 64 bit processor.
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Because that's what makes android open source, customizable, don't you wanna be able to under/overclock your kernel to save battery? Featureless? Ill take the privilege of being able to customize any day over gimmicky features[emoji110]
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Stock TW with stock kernel is typically more stable and optimized for performance and battery life anyway. Maybe your argument would have made a point 3 or 4 years ago when Samsung really didn't have all that much experience creating proprietary software that performed well and is optimized. This was back in the S2 and S3 era.
Things are different nowadays and if you really don't know what you're doing, all these options you can tweak can really have an adverse side effect on your day to day usage of the phone.
LMAO who cares ?
if u want AOSP roms just get nexus and save yourself the waiting and the BS = ( Samsung don't support aosp bla bla bla...)
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LMAO who cares ?
if u want AOSP roms just get nexus and save yourself the waiting and the BS = ( Samsung don't support aosp bla bla bla...)
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I care, and the rest of xda that roots phones does, the nexus 6 is too big, and the nexus 5 is out dated, stop being a sheep and break out those chains, tweak what u want and dont be complacent just because samsung has it tweaked at a certain frequency or set up a certain eay doesnt mean u cant go beyond and use the phone at its fullest potential
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I care, and the rest of xda that roots phones does, the nexus 6 is too big, and the nexus 5 is out dated, stop being a sheep and break out those chains, tweak what u want and dont be complacent just because samsung has it tweaked at a certain frequency or set up a certain eay doesnt mean u cant go beyond and use the phone at its fullest potential
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rooting phone and modifying it doesn't always mean u want AOSP roms , specially after xposed framework came over i totally stopped flashing roms and saved the hassle that come with flashing roms and wiping and ****....
sheep? yeah im sheep cuz i want to use my phone with all its functions not flashing buggy roms on my phone that will make lose 80% features of the phone especially cam and speaker and battery optimizations and samsung addons that come with TW , so yeah good luck with buggy AOSP
After seeing all the good things this phone has going for it from the fingerprint scanner, speed of the UI, camera improvements and the new theme engine(that Avengers theme looks nice by the way) there is no way I'm missing out on all that by flashing aosp on it. The funny thing is I used to run aosp exclusively on all my Samsung phone through the S4. The S5 is the first Samsung phone that I've run Touchwiz on 99% of the time. The only the I want on the S6 is root+adaway+maybe some slight debloating.
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rooting phone and modifying it doesn't always mean u want AOSP roms , specially after xposed framework came over i totally stopped flashing roms and saved the hassle that come with flashing roms and wiping and ****....
sheep? yeah im sheep cuz i want to use my phone with all its functions not flashing buggy roms on my phone that will make lose 80% features of the phone especially cam and speaker and battery optimizations and samsung addons that come with TW , so yeah good luck with buggy AOSP
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Yeah because I'm going to miss hovering my wet/dirty hands over the phone to answer a call, or tilting my head to scroll up/ down, pausing the video when i look away, shutting my screen off when i fall asleep watching a movie.. yup I'm gonna miss all those "features" BLOATWARE yup imma miss all that over speed and battery...
Yours Truly sarcasm...
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I care, and the rest of xda that roots phones does, the nexus 6 is too big, and the nexus 5 is out dated, stop being a sheep and break out those chains, tweak what u want and dont be complacent just because samsung has it tweaked at a certain frequency or set up a certain eay doesnt mean u cant go beyond and use the phone at its fullest potential
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Maybe moto maxx is device for you, 5.2 2k screen with snap 805 processor. Dont expect much things of exynos.
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Maybe moto maxx is device for you, 5.2 2k screen with snap 805 processor. Dont expect much things of exynos.
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Thanks, but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is verizon only [emoji20] and the Moto X 2014 is a drawback for me because of the battery.. 2400 mah battery... But i was once in the checkout page for the moto x. 2014 edition 32 gb, i even got accepted for the motorola credit.. but then i saw the M8 on swappa.com for $460(Brand new sealed) and it was a no brainer..but cm12 on the m8 has speaker distortion issues.... So im here hoping for the best when the s6 comes out...
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Thanks, but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is verizon only [emoji20] and the Moto X 2014 is a drawback for me because of the battery.. 2400 mah battery... But i was once in the checkout page for the moto x. 20114 edition 32 gb, i even got accepted for the motorola credit.. but then i saw the M8 on swappa.com for $460 and it was a no brainer..but cm12 on the m8 has speaker distortion issues.... So im here hoping for the best when the s6 comes out...
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No, moto maxx is int version of droid turbo, in usa have a xt 1250 variant too, its a great device with 3900 mah battery and a dev bring up cm for device.
So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.
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I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.
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Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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Alright well thank you anyway
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Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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Im not sure why those reviews say that.
I constantly get 4 - 5hrs screen on time, occasionally it'll get 6hrs screen on time, that was on stock non rooted.
I've also recently rooted and flashed xposed with gravity box and still continue to get very acceptable battery life.
i have the US version of the Pure. Not sure if my phone just got a good battery.
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Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I came from note 3 as well. On it since it came out. I've seen quite a spread on what people get. I'll low ball and say definitely 3 1/2, 4 1/2 with some management. Better build than 3 (expected). You'll have to get used to the color changes. Samsung saturates, so remember that. Someone posted getting 32 at least. I definitely agree with that statement. Don't bother with 16, even with the availability of SD card. Great radio. Unlocked for carriers. Price can't be beat. Only other option would be Nexus 6P.
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Misterxtc said:
I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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guraki said:
What ROM do you use?
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I was running stock until a couple hours ago and decided to try AICP. So far it's running great.
Def agree with everyone to get 32gb or above. What took me by surprise is this phone has no LED notification.....unless your rooted and running a rom which supports it (most do). Also when you root you will be able to control doze much more efficiently and get much better standby battery. This has the brightest screen I have ever seen (have it on 5%-10% while indoors), great audio jack/speaker sound/reception/camera and battery charges ridiculously quick. It's safe to say you will love this phone.
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone
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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone
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Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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spookykidmm said:
Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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Not at all.
brholt6 said:
Not at all.
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Thank you
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Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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Since battery depends on many variables like screen brightness, signal strength, apps installed, sync frequency, etc....your setup could be giving you horrible battery life, but explain to me how xposed makes battery that much worse....you must have many modules incorrectly configured.
My girlfriend upgraded from her Note 3 to the Moto X Pure when I upgraded at the same time from my LG G4 to this and we're both EXTREMELY satisfied. Dev support is on the rise so you'll have a few choices in ROMs. I'm currently rockin' TruPureXMM v2.5 with Franken Kernel using his Battery Profile settings, xPosed with GravityBox, Amplify & XGPM and can honestly say I couldn't be much happier with the experience overall.
We have the 64 GB models and neither of us use an sdCard since it's been more than enough for us. Google Photos keeps our photos stored and Google Play Music is our choice of service (Family Plan for $14.99 a month) which lets us stream our over 23,000 song collection and gives us access to any song on Google Play with no ads and since we have T-Mobile the music streaming isn't going against our high speed data, which is very nice. As other are saying, you will enjoy the dual-front speakers, the screen is great, and battery life is within reasonable acceptance. You can squeeze more out of it fairly easily with some tweaking and the quick-charge is INSANE. You can't beat the charger that comes with this phone.
I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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To be honest bro, I have the s7 edge at home for Verizon & I use the Nexus 6p as my daily. It's just how smooth and fast this phone is, touchwiz laggs like crazy compared to my Nexus 6p on beans rom, also I'm running my rooted apps like servicely and I get better battery life. If the s7 edge had root and unlocked bootloader no doubt it would whoop the Nexus 6p, but currently it just doesn't man.
Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Your kidding right?
Alpha release, if you believe that you don't understand alpha, beta, and shipping releases. This is obviously a shipping release. Very few bugs.
I've never had anice emulator run games as well as a flagship. Root is/was useful when companies couldn't put their bloatware on the phones without causing all kinds of havoc on the system. Now between cutting a bunch of bloat and increasing the specs the flagship store run super well.
I'm really not sure why you would say it's an alpha release, maybe you have a bad device and should return it.
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I miss root a lot, as well as tinkering around. I imagine if root doesn't happen in the next month or two I may be tempted to sell S7E. I am not loyal to any cell until it's really rootable. Options are everything.
Have their been any announcements on any teams or members working on root, or is this something people don't want to say in the event they are unsuccessful?
I'm rather enjoying using Samsung Pay at the moment. Can't say I'd want to lose that by messing with things.
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
cpufrost said:
Then, those who like to play around, increase instability, and decrease system security can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Fixed it for you. If we're going to post negotiate about one side, might add well be honest and post them about both.
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cpufrost said:
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Minus the 3Mint (never heard of it), I miss all of the above, in addition to Viper4Android. Man. The stock equalizer is aight, but I can't get half the power that I did out of Viper. And I never realized how many of my apps and pages had ads until I didn't have AdAway/root. I've developed, so I realize you have to make money, but most ads are most of the time inherently dangerous.
OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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Dead on. I wasted a few years on the nexus program. It's fun but very tedious. Now I just enjoy my games and use my device. The fiancé much enjoys me not up late at night resetting things up due to a bad flash, bug, etc.
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Bxrider117 said:
I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
jackscagnetti said:
I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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Sounds like you are actually agreeing with him...
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That is what I mean. With rooting phones it becomes slightly tedious.
My wife has an iPhone and I admired how that phone just works with very few hiccups. I don't believe any phone is perfect, but I like Android better and I feel this phone is close to being perfect with a few quirks.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
mugsy77 said:
The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
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I'm the same. Working ad-blocker is a big deal for me. Among other things. May end up buying it out and selling it on swappa.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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But if you use the Samsung browser you CAN use AD blocker without root, as it supports it as an add in. Google it.
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Foxfi
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