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Lag? What lag?

Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?

What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?

The difference must just be that I'm not a heavy app user. I still have the stock firmware the phone came with. Never had a 10 second delay with anything. Never noticed any sort of build up of lag. It works great! Do you guys install like 50 apps on your phones or something? Clearly that must be your problem.

I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
Not saying others are only having problems with the above situation, but it does seem like there are specific factors that cause it, which is why a lot of people have had no problems.

The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)

Pika007 said:
The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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I know, but until we can actually use it, we are limited to 256MB (or was it 232MB?)

SGS has 512MB RAM

Robin.B said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1
And although I am not a really heavy app user, I am a heavy user, and it wasn't hard to make the phone lag quite heavily at times, so I'd say no, it has not been blown out of proportion.

Robin.B; said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.

Tachikoma_kun said:
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
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Tachikoma_kun,
Please understand that Android does not work like the Mac OSX on an iMac, and that, if you open 8 odd apps in a row, you should _not_ have them all running in the background at once.
Android's memory management should close applications and free memory as needed. Processes will start if needed, be set to inactive as long as possible and killed if necessary. This works fine with other Android devices and obviously not with the Galaxy S.
You can read about the life cycle of Android Components at
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
Using a task killer to free up memory might make your Galaxy S faster than not using one, but this is still a lot less efficient than it should be. In a working Android system you should use the most out of your available memory and the system should stay fast as you open and switch between applications. You should never have to think about which applications are running or not running.
Again, this works just fine with other devices. If it does not work with the Galaxy S then this is a serious flaw in the system. The flaw might be related to the slow I/O on the internal SD, or maybe there is a firmware bug besides the I/O. But it is currently not working correctly.
If you have access to 256mb memory of RAM, and you use a task killer to always keep 100MB free, then you use your device like it only had 156MB.
I also do not believe that the average customer without a technical background is able to use a task killer without shooting himself in the foot. Without knowledge about what each application and service does, and how android manages background processes, how should a normal user know what he can kill and which services he should keep running?

lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.

lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.

eaglesteve said:
+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.

Enarca said:
I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?

That is exactly what i was telling people.
I come from the HTC Athena, and OMG... that thing is like crawling on sand, even with its super duper 625 Mhz CPU which by then was supposed to be the state of the art.
yet everything i did was sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, using the SGS was like smooth flowing water, everything is perfect in this phone out of the box.
Enarca said:
Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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ksizzle9 said:
Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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what made you choose a Droid X vs. a SGS i9000?
the 2 phones are almost identical, except for the camera.

the lag is very real.
try opening Dolphin HD and then closing it again .....about 8+ seconds to do either, and that's with nothing else open.
instantaneous on the nexus with 2.2.
some apps are much slower than others, some there is no difference, but even the default samsung apps such as phonebook have a good lag when switching between tabs.

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Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?
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I agree. I'm guessing you haven't used/owned a HTC Hero? If so, you haven't experienced the PAIN!! lol.

On my side I don't have any heavy app, I don't do games, or HD stuff what I expect from my phone is to be able to show me my mail ... and that's where I have plenty of lag ( not all the time but everyday for sure).
Lag to open the mail, lag to delete the mail, lag to come back on the homescreen.
Up to 15 sec to come back from the settings menu.
My benchmark is the iphone 3GS but also the HTC P3600 and the HTC diamond which are not that fast
I have never been waiting so long in front of my phone.
Excuse me if I am working with my phone and I don't want to wait 10 sec all the time.
And stop insulting people who complains please
Oh and the comment about installing 50 apps .... please learn how android is supposed to work. I should be able to install 1000 app without any problem. Who care about the number of app installed ???
By the way, when I have a lot of lag I go in systempanel to see what it my amount of memory and it's around 30-50 Mb so it should not be a problem.

Slow X, looking for info and/or advice

My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)

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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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I cannot recall whether or not FlyX includes the build.prop modifications or not, if not you would definitely want to make those. Other than that the only other thing I would recommend is giving MinFreeManager a shot, it changes the "low memory" requirements for the built in memory manager (task manager) of android. If configured properly it can really make a difference in both battery life and performance (not speed, but responsiveness). It does not do it for you, it lets you set the fields, so learn how to do it first, it varies depending on your use of your phone, I don't run any facebook or other streaming applications so my settings are 6,8,16,60,60,150 but this could vary greatly, and may adversely affect others, so read up on the app in the market.
Again that app will improve responsiveness, in that it will give you less delay when swyping the screen in the UI and such, in that your phone does not have to kill a task to free up memory to complete the next task, it will not improve benchmarks, at the same time, poor memory management will give you poor performance in real world use but may not affect your benchmarks, another reason that benchmarks are poor ways of measuring performance.
Outside of that, what it really comes down to is our Android systems need hardware acceleration... Google really needs to get of there... well... you know... and get with the game here, based off the recent discussion and their advisement to manufacturers to hold of the release of tablets until the next android release, I am hoping they are currently implementing it, but without GPU hardware acceleration in the UI and web browser, we will constantly have the appearance of choppiness and the illusion of poor performance even on our overqualified phones... it is one area where I am sad to say the iPhone has us beat... very sad to say... as a matter of fact, I just washed my mouth out with a bit of soap...
EDIT: a good example of how well that application worked for me over actual "tasks killers" on the market such as task killer and such... before having this app installed and configured, a quick investigation of "settings, applications, running services" and viewing the available memory, it would display "Avail:16MB+98MB in ##" after having this app and having it configured it displays "Avail:72MB+116MB in 26" I am assuming my poor UI responsiveness was due to the first of the two numbers...

Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.

brandon2x said:
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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no problem, yeah, the iPhone has had GPU hardware acceleration in the UI since it came out, they structured their OS around it, Google chose otherwise, and I can only hope they regret that decision now... but hopefully they will make amends for that...
just make sure you read the post referenced in the app itself. It is written for the HTC Hero which only has 288MB of Ram as opposed to our 512MB Ram, but it still basically applies.
Keep in mind:
It does not automatically set on reboot until you tell it to, do not tell it to until you are sure the settings you have set do not mess with anything.
You probably will not notice a difference for about an hour... at least that's how long it took for me to truly notice a difference... I'm not really sure why, it apparently took that long for the priorities to take affect, and get the right processes killed, etc., etc. After that, especially later that day I was truly noticing a difference, especially in typing... I have always had a delay when typing on this phone, and that seems to be gone now...

yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!

brandon2x said:
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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Sounds good, your welcome and good luck!
If those settings work out for you without any problems, you'll probably want to up them a bit, it might say aggressive, but they are only so aggressive... If it makes a big difference for you then stick with them, if you still have slow down, and you are running what you described before, you can probably get away running settings similar to what I posted, just don't have them set on boot just in case, if they don't work out you can always set them lower or back to a preset. It is definitely something you can expiriment with, if worst comes to worst, you can always reboot, but as long as you don't touch the first 4 values, you won't mess anything up, the worst that you will do with the last 2 is temporarly screw up facebook sync. or something similar, and really you can get away with changing the 4th value to, it just has a chance of affecting more things, but I doubt you'll end up affecting anything with values around 50 anyway. Like I said, experimenting never hurts, slow phones do... Just keep an eye on it ;-) good luck again.

To add a little correction.if you are running fly x then you are not running 2.3.15 you are running the earlier related release it Is based on. Even if you did have2.3.15 before installing it fly x over writes the system to the files it uses. All roms do. Do you actually have like 2.3.9 I think
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It does say 2.3.9. I inquired about this before because I used teamblackhat to get .15 and the system never seemed to change to .15 every time I tried to download it... I guess that's why, because of flyx...
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After reading Captian Taco's post I was eager to try it out, and its actually making a big difference =D thanks!

Yes it is... its been running much smoother and more responsive all day. Thanks again captaintaco... (boy thats kinda funny to type...)
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.

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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Hey don't thank me, thank the creator of MFM, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first to discover the power of Androids integrated minimum memory management, if not the first. Just glad to share my discovery of his discovery haha. But yea, to be honest I don't even use a custom Rom anymore, it runs so quick just having that (thought it works even better in conjunction with your standard simplistic task killer such as "advanced task killer" just to kill apps in the foreground after you are done with them, since many apps don't include a way of closing themselves out...
I still try the custom Roms out and play around with them for the hell of it, but as for right now, I rely heavily on corporate integration, and most of the good blurless Roms remove features required for true and proper corporate sync, such as calender sync and the like... and I just don't like touchdown pro... So this helps me out greatly... remove some bloat, throw launcher pro on there, and get this fix fired up, phone runs like a dream... now if only they could get exchange active sync running like it was on Sense... best implementation I have seen of Exchange active sync so far... I do miss that...

Well after all the advice I ended up installing the zapx rom last night. Wow! It is sooo fast... everything just responds and reacts so much faster than before. I suggest installing zapx to anyone. Best rom so far I think...
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Using Launcher Pro, easier way to close apps faster?

I heard App Killers use memory, so I was wondering is there a way to get a shortcut, or a way to tweak to put what apps I want terminated and that I use on the go all at once or all in the same list? It's annoying to go into settings, then applications, then run and scroll through each one and force stop lol .

Don't force apps to stop. If it's not in use, it doesn't matter if it's in the memory.
Linux operates differently. In Windows you could use up a bunch of memory and it slows things down, but until you get to a critical level your Atrix isn't going to slow down. It's better to let it manage itself, otherwise it will simply start the task over and pull it to the foreground even though it was using no resources happily in the background.
Only close apps if they're erratic or if you want to clear memory for something hardcore like a PSX or N64 emulator, etc.
Trust me. I don't kill apps and used my phone like some sort of newb, but it actually works way better than when I try erratically killing apps all the time.

so even if its in the running tab say like browser and gmail, and say an app that uses gps and data and I close it but don't force stop it, it won't do a big deal on my battery? Sorry im new to all this, very new.
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As soon as apps like Maps are out of focus (not immediately running on your screen) the GPS will stop searching. You will notice that Android is more than capable of handling it's own memory management. Just relax and let the OS do it's job. Some things you're killing with a task killer will just be immediately reopened by Android, as it's being referenced by another app. That will kill your battery much more so than just letting Android remove resources from a running app.

tripleh3lix said:
so even if its in the running tab say like browser and gmail, and say an app that uses gps and data and I close it but don't force stop it, it won't do a big deal on my battery? Sorry im new to all this, very new.
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As soon as apps like Maps are out of focus (not immediately running on your screen) the GPS will stop searching. You will notice that Android is more than capable of handling it's own memory management. Just relax and let the OS do it's job. Some things you're killing with a task killer will just be immediately reopened by Android, as it's being referenced by another app. That will kill your battery much more so than just letting Android remove resources from a running app.
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^^^
This brother is right!
Yep, it's kind of a strange concept. I was so skeptical and yes, sometimes I look at the stuff in the background and still get suspicious. But the battery life and performance speaks for itself. After months and months of it pestering me, I finally submitted. I only kill tasks before running high end console emulators or a couple other apps that require a lot of juice.
It's definitely something that takes time getting used to. I've had an Android for almost exactly a year to this day and it's still a hard concept to grasp. As long as you're not running some crappy program that was poorly coded, it otherwise does a great job.
First Android OS was 1.6/Donut and that wasn't nearly as good as Froyo and Gingerbread. HUGE difference. I'm using an Xperia X10 because my Atrix is currently broken, but I've got CM running Gingerbread and WOW. It's like a completely different phone!! Even just the stock Froyo handles tasks much better. The Atrix is damn near flawless in comparison too.

tripleh3lix said:
I heard App Killers use memory, so I was wondering is there a way to get a shortcut, or a way to tweak to put what apps I want terminated and that I use on the go all at once or all in the same list? It's annoying to go into settings, then applications, then run and scroll through each one and force stop lol .
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I like Watchdog, http://goo.gl/c4On5. It will tell you if an app needs killing. You can even put a widget on your screen and watch how many apps are running, how many are idle, and what % of cpu is used.

bongd said:
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This brother is right!
Yep, it's kind of a strange concept. I was so skeptical and yes, sometimes I look at the stuff in the background and still get suspicious. But the battery life and performance speaks for itself. After months and months of it pestering me, I finally submitted. I only kill tasks before running high end console emulators or a couple other apps that require a lot of juice.
It's definitely something that takes time getting used to. I've had an Android for almost exactly a year to this day and it's still a hard concept to grasp. As long as you're not running some crappy program that was poorly coded, it otherwise does a great job.
First Android OS was 1.6/Donut and that wasn't nearly as good as Froyo and Gingerbread. HUGE difference. I'm using an Xperia X10 because my Atrix is currently broken, but I've got CM running Gingerbread and WOW. It's like a completely different phone!! Even just the stock Froyo handles tasks much better. The Atrix is damn near flawless in comparison too.
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Thank you. I have 4 and a half hours with this thing powered on, and screen is on an hour and a half and it's on 50 percent already. Was using maps and just texting that's about it. I keep turning gps off when done.
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Screen Wobble/Battery Consumption (Xperia Play User Comparison)

Hi Yall
Ive had the xperia play for around 2 weeks now and loving it but seeing as im pretty particular about my new gadgets im just wondering if my xperia play is the same as everyone elses.
Ive basically got only a couple queries which are:
1. How is your screen wobble when the slider is opened and closed?
With mine, when the slider is closed there is a slight gap between the gamepad and the screen so when you use the touch screen (for smsing etc) you can here the tapping of the screen on the gamepad.
When the slider is open on the other hand the same thing happens but only on the bottom 2 corners of the screen you can push them slightly down onto the gamepad with slight movement.
2. How is your battery usage/life?
With mine, I basically get 1 or 1.5 days battery life depending on what I am doing but I cant help notice that even with little things such as sending a quick sms or simply going through the phones settings will actually eat 1% or 2% of the battery life. This normal?
Lastly, im new to android as I have recently switched from the iphone so when im looking at the stock android app killer thats built into the device under the applications section. What is actually using the battery? As you go the the running apps part its got used and free application that show up. are both of these eating the battery or is it just the used ones?
Thank You in advance and thanks for comparing.

this has been discussed over and over again, please use search first before posting.
Anyway, Markus (developer I think) from Sony Ericsson confirmed the "LITTLE" wobble and small gap when closed is normal. That is in accordance to their design engineers' wants to allow users to have a good feel when using the gaming device. As with any side-slider phones, THIS IS NORMAL.
Regarding the battery, that is just fine. You are actually getting the juice out of it. Period. I had mine rooted and bloatware removed, but the difference in battery consumption against non-rooted didn't vary a lot. So I reverted back to NO BLOATWARE REMOVED (but still rooted though) to preserve my ability to update via OTA in the future and it's working just fine. I believe the phone is managing itself very well so there's no need for us to be doing a lot of tweaks that could be potentially dangerous. And oh, I believe you're already on 2.3.3 because on 2.3.2 the battery won't even last a day. Mine lasts a maximum of 35 hours on 2.3.3 with moderate use, 4-5 hours on straight gaming.
EDIT: Never use third-party App Killers/Task Managers! I read somewhere legit that they will just screw up your phone. Android phones are way better off with spiking memory usages because that's the time when the phone starts to manage itself actually. Remember, devs and engineers will never release a device that cannot manage itself. Love your device! Love it even more if it's in stock condition!

If you want speed, memory and more battery then do this
Batteryurchase juice defender ultimate, it's absolutely wonderful and ACTUALLY works. With root it saved me x1.50 on battery, without root it saved me x2. 0
Install memory booster, qwik boost and task killer will free up RAM and stop battery consumption for a few minutes.
Speed: unlocking bootloader and then rooting, installing titanium backup and removing bloatware, uninstalling useless apps and freezing will make it noticibly fast. You can also use. SETCPU for extended battery and faster performance. And SD speed increase
For more speed and precision , flash doomkernel
That will catapult your battery to 10 hours, and will get you to another day.
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Ok Guys
So has anyone got any fixes to make the device have no wobble at all? Tell us your story or innovations.

Cat_On_Droid said:
Install memory booster, qwik boost and task killer
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There really is no need to install these, they do more harm than good, its explained loads on XDA.
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
Ok Guys
So has anyone got any fixes to make the device have no wobble at all? Tell us your story or innovations.
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It is normal for the Play to have a slight wobble!
If you really want to inprove it you can use two of those little sticky pad things from the bottom of a mouse (no, not a real mouse, a pc mouse!), place them on the back of the Play while the screen is up, it stops it wobbling, there is a thread about it somewhere on here.

like i said in my post, that is normal. why fix something that is normal?

I just dont like the slight wobble, thats all
Its one of those things that eat at your very soul over time lol

then there's nothing we can do about that. no one's bothered about that here anyway.

So is anyone also experiencing one shoulder button being looser than the other?

FK1983 said:
There really is no need to install these, they do more harm than good, its explained loads on XDA.
It is normal for the Play to have a slight wobble!
If you really want to inprove it you can use two of those little sticky pad things from the bottom of a mouse (no, not a real mouse, a pc mouse!), place them on the back of the Play while the screen is up, it stops it wobbling, there is a thread about it somewhere on here.
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i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.

Cat_On_Droid said:
i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.
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Either way anything that kills apps is bad. I used to do it religiously on my old Droid, and then I read that article and said hey lets just give it a shot. Well it took a while (like a couple days) for the phone to catch up but it actually started to run BETTER and less stuff was crashing and force closing.
I still have Advanced task killer on my phone, but I use it for one thing only, to kill apps that screw up but don't Force Close (generally Facebook because that app is a piece of ****e....)

there's an article (legit one) i read somewhere saying app killers and advanced task managers plus battery calibration apps are actually dangerous to android phones. after all, android does memory spooling, so it manages its RAM on its own and we don't want to mess with that. as i always say, why intervene with something that's working properly? engineers made their phones act properly without / minimal management, so why bother?

KoolMoeDee KMD said:
I just dont like the slight wobble, thats all
Its one of those things that eat at your very soul over time lol
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Lol know what you meen, those small things, kind of ocd behavior Mine is rock steady no wobble here.
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
So is anyone also experiencing one shoulder button being looser than the other?
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My R is slightly looser, but that's from gaming on it.
Regards Dousan...
Old school name you've got there from when hip hop was underground and not comercial as it is today

Cat_On_Droid said:
i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.
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Ahh ok, Sorry!

Screen wobble is barely noticeable, battery life is amazing.

narflynn619 said:
there's an article (legit one) i read somewhere saying app killers and advanced task managers plus battery calibration apps are actually dangerous to android phones. after all, android does memory spooling, so it manages its RAM on its own and we don't want to mess with that. as i always say, why intervene with something that's working properly? engineers made their phones act properly without / minimal management, so why bother?
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There is quite a good aricle on lifehacker that says all about the native memory management and why task killers are useless

Yes tasks managers are quite useless for Android.In fact, it is known to screw up some programs or functions because of closing the wrong programs.That being said i'm using the one that came with go launcher.
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Deoxlar said:
Yes tasks managers are quite useless for Android.In fact, it is known to screw up some programs or functions because of closing the wrong programs.That being said i'm using the one that came with go launcher.
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When i was using GO launcher, i had a nasty habbit of using the one in the app draw every time i opened it
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You can stick a teflon mouse skate at the back of the screen just behind the home button. It won't completely eliminate wobble but it makes it a lot more stable when pressing any of the face buttons or texting.

When a task killer kills apps, most of them just restart. If you want it to be truly effective, you need to have root, titanium pro, and freeze them.
Plus, task killers use extra CPU and ram, resulting in more power being used. They just keep killing apps repeatedly and eat your battery.
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Current owners: how stable is it?

So, some of you have had a few days to play with the phone and install plenty of 3rd party apps. Have you had any software issues? Any resets? I want this phone but I'm concerned about the possibility of software issues that HTC may take ages to address. I'm coming from a rock solid iPhone 4s and am a little worried over past reports of HTC phone suddenly shutting down at night (late for work hazard) or randomly rebooting.

clbell said:
So, some of you have had a few days to play with the phone and install plenty of 3rd party apps. Have you had any software issues? Any resets? I want this phone but I'm concerned about the possibility of software issues that HTC may take ages to address. I'm coming from a rock solid iPhone 4s and am a little worried over past reports of HTC phone suddenly shutting down at night (late for work hazard) or randomly rebooting.
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I haven't heard anything about random reboot's, but as far as using the phone: its rock stable and continuously fast as far as I have read. I read almost every review/watched every video review about the HTC One (yes, obsessed person). As far as performance, the HTC One is the best Android phone till now. I think that coming from an iPhone, you will be satisfied with the performance. People say that no matter how many apps you have open and no matter what you are doing, there is no lag at all and the phone stays fast.
I don't own the phone yet so I hope others will be able to give you more valuable info, but I thought that this post couldn't hurt you either

AW: Current owners: how stable is it?
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Rockstable!
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clbell said:
So, some of you have had a few days to play with the phone and install plenty of 3rd party apps. Have you had any software issues? Any resets? I want this phone but I'm concerned about the possibility of software issues that HTC may take ages to address. I'm coming from a rock solid iPhone 4s and am a little worried over past reports of HTC phone suddenly shutting down at night (late for work hazard) or randomly rebooting.
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Had this phone for exactly a week today! Absolutely fast, never have I had a lag in this 1st week. All apps running good, no reboots, nothing! Great phone, trust me you won't be disappointed! From the iphone 4s to this will be a HUGE difference (a good one)
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deagleone said:
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Rockstable!
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Is that RockSolidStable!?
:silly:

Had it for nearly a week now and having been on android since 1.5 (HTC Magic) I can honestly say this is the fastest, most fluid phone I've had.

same here, not had one problem yet with the hardware. Only problem ive had is the santander banking app isnt compatible with the ONE :crying:

Absolutely rock solid not one single hang, crash or random reboot.

On the whole I find the device very stable after moving from my iphone 5. However unlike everyone else apparently I have had one issue. If I select productivity lock screen and select it to show my email on the lock screen (with my work exchange active in the stock mail app) then I get regular crashes of the lock screen. I.e. the lock screen goes black when I wake the phone and then reloads to the default lock screen only showing the wallpaper and weather widget. After trial and error I figured out that selecting the productivity wallpaper to not show email, but calendar, SMS and missed calls everything works normally. I don't know if it is a problem caused by my exchange server setup or Sense but I am not able to use email on the productivity lock screen. Anyone else notice this problem?

I've had it a week now, I've got about 88 apps installed and I've had no crashing apps or reboots. The battery life is also way better than my Old One X. Its buttery smooth.

Great to hear! It seems that people with some stability issues occur after an update to their phone so maybe I just need to be careful with new updates from HTC or root and install a different ROM as Android progresses. I'm sure when Key Lime Pie arrives I will be really wanting to get that on the phone ASAP.

My phone is perfectly stable. I have had no lags apart from some old apps with jerky scrolling. No crashes as of yet.
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Eventually they will come out with a update that will make it randomly reboot, that's just how HTC rolls. I'm not trolling, that's just my experience with them. Regardless I'll be getting the One and just hard reset it after os updates.
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