S4 or nexus 5 - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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Nexus 5 is the best in my opinion

dj-suicide said:
Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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Depends very much on what you use your phone
if it for development - Knox is a problem
but if you use it normal - S4 is a very very good phone
this is my opinion

Hardware, camera Samsung.
Android pure N5.
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Vote for S4 for its hardware key, removable battery and SD card.
The only drawback of S4 is the bloatwares but I can remove than after rooting my phone. I do stay at 4.3

I would suggest if they are priced equal then s4 coz it is pretty nice.I hate pure android and the speakers of nexus are pretty bad.
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so then so far looks like im sticking with the s4, its just the knox whats putting me off lol

dj-suicide said:
Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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Go to a store an try them both, than you can make your decision.

I think that the S4 hardware is nicer with more options for accessories too.
On the other hand, the pure android experience in N5 is hard to be unnoticed.
I would also recommend trying them in a retail store before drawing any conclusion.
IMHO, I would recomend S4 from T-mobile so it can hold custom rom (aka pure android) so you could have the best of both worlds. =)

Thanks for your help guys. Think I'll stick with the s4. I went to a shop yesterday to have a look A lot more features than the n5 plus like you said if I wanted I could always flash a pure android rom.
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I had the N5 for 6 months then decided to sell and return to the S4 (bought new version on swappa). You can't go wrong either way but, for me, I like the S4 hardware better...turns out the replaceable battery was something I wanted for backpacking, etc. Plus I like the S4 camera.
The N5 is pretty basic and the hardware rattling noises kinda bugged me over time...which may have been repaired in current versions...not sure.
Running stock/unrooted with most bloatware disabled AND even have been using the Google Now Launcher which is great...an exact clone of the N5 version from my viewpoint (even voice detection from home screen).
The preferred the texture of back of the N5 but I use a thin case over both phones so it really didn't matter.
In stock version...for me battery life has been the same on each phone.
as many have said...personal preference.

I would go with the N5 but that's my opinion I like the simple smooth look of the N5 not a big fan of the looks of S4 but of you keep the S4 make sure you root because my S4 lag and got wicked hot randomly and I factory reset it a coupe time plus had it RMA and keep doing the same thing I can't complain about anything about the N5 I would get the lg g2 but I like the N5 form factor better
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[Q] Replacing my Nexus S. Need help to deicide!

Guys i need a little help. I am replacing my lovely nexus s.
My candidates are
Nexus 4
Galaxy S4
HTC ONE
Galaxy S3
Today i tried an S3 and a HTC ONE and an S4 (i9505) and a n4.
I love the S4 the design i think is much better than the s3, but the ONE has the best design, but i never buy a phone just 4 the design. And it is impossible to replace anything on the HTC One. The camera is not so good either, but the microphone and the stabilization is realy an useful extra. And HTC is never too good on updating its software. N4 is is a good all rounder, but the camera is crap The screen was insanely nice in the s4. My problem is that the s4 browser lagged like hell, i loaded up the verge desktop as my usual test page and during loading it was all choppy and unresponsive even the s3 was much faster! Not to menion my nexus 7 almost my dated nexus s was more responsive.... Maybe the demo phone does not had the final software? Can somone with a stock i9505 can try theverge? Please tell me how the browser behaves on a final s4? thx
I'd suggest you go with the s4. The lag was due to firmware not being ready. Chances are the model you will buy will probably not lag. And even if it does it will be fixed with an update. The s4 has the best hardware around right now, no doubt about that. The htc one is also a great phone and you won't regret buying either of them. I wouldn't buy the nexus 4 or s3 though.
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I wouldn't buy the nexus 4 or s3 though.
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S3 would be only because of price but i dont realy like compromise What you have against the nexus? Do you have the s4?
You may want to ask this in a general section and not in any sub forum as you will get biased replies to whichever forum you ask in. If you have decided to ask here it sounds like you are leaning towards the S4. The One at the moment sounds like the smoothest but if you want/need an external battery and SD slot you should probably go for the S4. The Ones camera isnt bad, its not as good as the S4 in daylight but better in low light. I'd go into a store again then compare the One & S4 to see which one you really like.
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S3 would be only because of price but i dont realy like compromise What you have against the nexus? Do you have the s4?
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No doubt Nexus 4 is a nice phone. But it is 6 month old tech at this point. You will love the S4 coming from Nexus S, unless you absolutely hate touchwiz...
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ste1164 said:
You may want to ask this in a general section and not in any sub forum as you will get biased replies to whichever forum you ask in.
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I am asking it here because i would like somone to check the browser for me The s4 in the store near me is prolly not final and i dont want to judge the phone badly because of it
Highway 55 said:
No doubt Nexus 4 is a nice phone. But it is 6 month old tech at this point. You will love the S4 coming from Nexus S, unless you absolutely hate touchwiz...
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Thats a good point, if you like stock android you do not want a S4 unless you want to wait and see about this whole bootloader mess and get cyanogen.
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I am asking it here because i would like somone to check the browser for me The s4 in the store near me is prolly not final and i dont want to judge the phone badly because of it
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I imagine what is in the store is final retail. I have never seen any device in store running pre-release hardware or firmware. What you see is what you get.
You'll get different views.
If software is important I'd recommend the nexus 4 as you'll get key lime pie before any Samsung or HTC device. It's not bloated with features, it's simple stock Android fast and functional.
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I imagine what is in the store is final retail. I have never seen any device in store running pre-release hardware or firmware. What you see is what you get.
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Then i will go to another store and try it as if the s4 would behave that much slower as the s3 i would expect lots of people complaining
Only options in my eyes would be the S4 or the One. I have had both, the One first but I had to switch to the S4 as every single unit I found had stuck pixels among other faults. Aside from that it is a great phone, but if you do consider one then make sure you get a good one before you leave the shop!
Alternatively, absolutely no regrets going to the S4 instead.
Guys i need a little help. I am replacing my lovely nexus s.
My candidates are
Nexus 4
Galaxy S4
HTC ONE
Galaxy S3
Today i tried an S3 and a HTC ONE and an S4 (i9505) and a n4.
I love the S4 the design i think is much better than the s3, but the ONE has the best design, but i never buy a phone just 4 the design. And it is impossible to replace anything on the HTC One. The camera is not so good either, but the microphone and the stabilization is realy an useful extra. And HTC is never too good on updating its software. N4 is is a good all rounder, but the camera is crap The screen was insanely nice in the s4. My problem is that the s4 browser lagged like hell, i loaded up the verge desktop as my usual test page and during loading it was all choppy and unresponsive even the s3 was much faster! Not to menion my nexus 7 almost my dated nexus s was more responsive.... Maybe the demo phone does not had the final software? Can somone with a stock i9505 can try theverge? Please tell me how the browser behaves on a final s4? thx
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The camera on the one is a fair bit better in the 1.29 update, check out some comparison reviews. Also, in terms of software updates, I read a piece somewhere that showed pretty categorically that HTC have the best history of updates.
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vick33 said:
S3 would be only because of price but i dont realy like compromise What you have against the nexus? Do you have the s4?
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Well lack of expandable storage along with the maximum option being a 16 gb version is the dealbreaker. I have a 16 gb s3 + 32 gb micro sd and I tend to fill that up with music and movies so I wouldn't be able to survive on just 16 gb. Theres also the battery life which doesn't seem to be that great along with it being non removable though I could probably live with it if it was only just that. I don't have the s4 right now. Still trying to decide between the s4 and one...
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I read a piece somewhere that showed pretty categorically that HTC have the best history of updates.
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I have seen that too and HTC is realy better in updating non flagship devices for example the galaxy w does not even get updated from 2.3, but s2 the former flagship got 4.1.2 and wil get 4.2.2 and the HTC sensation remained on 4.0.4. But if someone replaces phone every year that does not realy matter
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I read a piece somewhere that showed pretty categorically that HTC have the best history of updates.
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Which is necessary cause the One came out with an older Android version.
Does anyone with the actual phone could report on the browser Or we all are just wannabe owners Thx in advance

Nexus 4 Advice?

Sorry, I know this topic is EVERYWHERE but I still cannot decide..
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I'm thinking of getting the N4 just cause its so cheap, however I've been looking at the HTC One as well.
Hardware wise, HTC one leads.. I love the front facing speakers, and the fact that its HTC makes it even better.. I loved the HTC Nexus One, so solid...
I'm still torn between these two phones, and I need someone to let me know what I should go for. Is it worth the extra $250-$300 for the HTC one? OR should I just get the N4?
Thanks
Indeed
Get it and don't look back. Whatever you do though, get the 16gb version. The 8gb version just leaves you with 5 gbs of usable data, and that is noooo good. I get better battery life than my girlfriend who has an s3, and I am constantly beating her phone in very unscientific tests that I run.
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The Nexus is a beautiful phone, how about getting it...and if you don't like it sell it and get the One. You would get pretty much all your money back as they are very popular
yea you could get a lot of money if you sell it afterwards just for the fact it is unlocked out of the box:good:
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xxsashixx said:
Sorry, I know this topic is EVERYWHERE but I still cannot decide..
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I'm thinking of getting the N4 just cause its so cheap, however I've been looking at the HTC One as well.
Hardware wise, HTC one leads.. I love the front facing speakers, and the fact that its HTC makes it even better.. I loved the HTC Nexus One, so solid...
I'm still torn between these two phones, and I need someone to let me know what I should go for. Is it worth the extra $250-$300 for the HTC one? OR should I just get the N4?
Thanks
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I use the N4, but if I were to get a new phone today, I would definitely consider the One. I think it's designed really well and I too like the idea of front facing speakers. I like having music on around me and when I'm away from home, I'll often use my phone for playing music. When it's convenient, I'll use my earbuds. When not, I may have to resort to playing it through the speaker. Even with the LG bumper lifting the back off the surface it's resting on, the sound coming out of the speaker is more tinny and muffled compared with my past phones. Finally, while I enjoy the design of the N4 and its liberal use of glass, it does have a certain sense of fragility to it which I don't associate with the aluminum clad One. If you do get an N4, I''m sure be unhappy. But I wouldn't mind if I could get LTE data speeds.
HTC One and the Nexus 4 are tough. If you can manage putting AOSP on the One, it'd be awesome. I'd have a tough time too.
Get two nexuses!
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I think your comparison is really not that ... Uhhhh... Justified... Esp due to the price range... If you want to decide between newer high end phones it should probably be the ONE vs the S4... Not the One vs the N⁴...
I personally do love the n⁴ but I must say the ONLY 2 things which gives it an edge over anything else is the Vanilla/prompt updates, and the reasonable price. If I had the extra money to spend I would definitely get the ONE or S⁴ Google Edition... Alas I don't tho...
So if you could get the One then I would say go for that... Just try to get the unlocked boot loader version (developer edition) so you can do as you please with roms...
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I think your comparison is really not that ... Uhhhh... Justified... Esp due to the price range... If you want to decide between newer high end phones it should probably be the ONE vs the S4... Not the One vs the N⁴...
I personally do love the n⁴ but I must say the ONLY 2 things which gives it an edge over anything else is the Vanilla/prompt updates, and the reasonable price. If I had the extra money to spend I would definitely get the ONE or S⁴ Google Edition... Alas I don't tho...
So if you could get the One then I would say go for that... Just try to get the unlocked boot loader version (developer edition) so you can do as you please with roms...
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If I do not get the Developer version of the one, am I still able to unlock the bootloader?
Edit: nvm, quick google says "Yes" to all carriers
Edit2: Still trying to decide, I CAN put down another $300 on the HTC one.. but I'm not sure if its WORTH it.. thats the problem
xxsashixx said:
If I do not get the Developer version of the one, am I still able to unlock the bootloader?
Edit: nvm, quick google says "Yes" to all carriers
Edit2: Still trying to decide, I CAN put down another $300 on the HTC one.. but I'm not sure if its WORTH it.. thats the problem
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I think it will be and I'll tell you why...
If Its unlockable then you can get to the latest firmware updates if not the same day, within say 2-3 weeks using cyanogen or some ROM who will update...
Your getting a better camera and screen and aluminium body with front stereo speakers... That's excellent hardware well worth the extra money... Because if you use the phone alot... All these factors come Into play in the long run... If your more of a casual user who primarily uses the phone as a phone... Then its probably not worth the extra money...
In my opinion my phone is like a laptop replacement... I use it ALOT... Hence I rather spend more on a phone than a Computer as the computer just collects dust with a powerful smartphone...
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Here you go - the Google Edition of the One:
http://m.androidcentral.com/google-edition-htc-one-coming-soon-vanilla-android
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Sorry if im posting in the wrong section but i was wondering after i have rooted and installed a custom rom on my nexus 4 can i still get official android updates such as 4.3 jelly bean
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Sorry if im posting in the wrong section but i was wondering after i have rooted and installed a custom rom on my nexus 4 can i still get official android updates such as 4.3 jelly bean
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No... You will need to be on stock for that...
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So will cyanogenmod release a version based on the latest jellybean
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Cherag Shag said:
So will cyanogenmod release a version based on the latest jellybean
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Yes ever ROM will
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If you are not planning to use the camera much, get the N4, otherwise go for the HTC.
Ultimately it's up to you.
Sold my Galaxy S4 today and bought a Nexus 4 again. The S4 was laggy as hell and packed with way to much bloatware. The screen, speaker and camera however we`re very good. But overalll it was a dissapointment for me. While on paper the specs look great the firmware is very bad atm so the performance is meh......
what would happen if i updated my nexus 4 to 4.3 jellybean on a custom rom like cyanogenmod
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Cherag Shag said:
what would happen if i updated my nexus 4 to 4.3 jellybean on a custom rom like cyanogenmod
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It would explode
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You have to keep the retail price in mind. If you get the HTC one and a new phone comes out, how popular will your phone become? The HTC one x was a good phone but as of now it's selling for around $230 on eBay. I had a galaxy nexus which was released 2 years ago and I still sold out for 280.
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Who is disappointed by s4 and why??

Well guys I used to have Gnex...there we had nightlies,mods,ports,milestones,kernels and latest google updates...life was so fun..I became flashaholic...and then I bought gt-i9500...thought it will have a great developer supoort and if not nightlies I'll have good number of interesting roms to flash.but I was realky realky disappointed when I see 6 roms only . I'm not saying that these rons are not good..no way...all of them are great and stable...but when I see s3 forum and htc one forum or even gt-i9505 forum I realky regret buying this phone.who else does??
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It's all because of Samsung...I mean come on guys...u create a chipset and you're not sure about its effectiveness or whateva the reason is that you declare 9505 the "international" version??it has never happened in the past.samsung is surely losing grounds or at least surely is nervous by htc one and the xperia coming one after another that you create exynos then u say no we'll put snapdragon thing in the other model and then again u say no let's have a snapdragon 800..and then u put a bulky camera in it and call it zoom and then u put tight screws in it and call it the Active...one is so much cinfused in all this GALAXY that I start thinking s4 is a GALAXY within already congested galaxy.
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well, just to throw another opinion out there...i chose the s4 because i was looking forward to a phone that will just work straight out of the box, stock rom, without having to try custom firmware and roms just to get any sort of use out of the thing. other android phones i've used have awful battery life and all sorts of system instabilities and bugs. it's nice to finally have a phone that just works, does what it's supposed to do and i don't have to worry about switching off all the smart features because of battery life. only thing i'm waiting for now is the a2sd update so i can free a little more mem for apps. but with 64gb sd card, i have loads of room for music and videos. definitely the best stock rom/device i've had so far.
That is quite well said bro..this device is a beast in itself..but everybody has different expectations and differebt priorities. At least samsung should have overhauled the UI..
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im dissappointed because s4 has no hdr video, there is weird lag in shutter sound, and i dont understand why they couldn put a 3100mAh battery, there is a plenty of space in such big phone :/
Not really disappoi but the predictive text acts like it's drunk all the time
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Disappointed by stuttering in some games, which really should be flying. (granny smith, rr3...)
This might be shallow for some but I'm disappointed cause you can't have lockscreen widgets on stock firmware
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Well first of all, GNex was Nexus. It makes it a lot easier if devs are working on Nexus. Also GNex was a lot cheaper and this led to more users. Generally if there are more users, the development blooms. You can't really compare your i9500 or even i9505 against the development of any Nexus phone.
S3 has been out for a lot longer than S4 and now you are really comparing these two's development?
HTC One and i9505 have more developments going on because simply they have more users and also AOSP devs have more experiences with Snapdragon from phones like Nexus 4.
I don't know how you bought i9500 but I'm going to assume that you bought it off-contract for like $700. Very small amount of people would actually go this route instead of just paying $200 with contract.
I should buy s3... Is the same..
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conics said:
This might be shallow for some but I'm disappointed cause you can't have lockscreen widgets on stock firmware
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?? I guess u were trying to say something else..
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Well first of all, GNex was Nexus. It makes it a lot easier if devs are working on Nexus. Also GNex was a lot cheaper and this led to more users. Generally if there are more users, the development blooms. You can't really compare your i9500 or even i9505 against the development of any Nexus phone.
S3 has been out for a lot longer than S4 and now you are really comparing these two's development?
HTC One and i9505 have more developments going on because simply they have more users and also AOSP devs have more experiences with Snapdragon from phones like Nexus 4.
I don't know how you bought i9500 but I'm going to assume that you bought it off-contract for like $700. Very small amount of people would actually go this route instead of just paying $200 with contract.
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Agree with evrything except..s4 or s3 or s2(mayb evn s1) sold more than any nexus phone..so no,,none of the nexus devices hs more users than any of the mentioned phones..
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?? I guess u were trying to say something else..
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Agree with evrything except..s4 or s3 or s2(mayb evn s1) sold more than any nexus phone..so no,,none of the nexus devices hs more users than any of the mentioned phones..
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Nexus always had source and the last couple of nexii may very very have sold more than the i9500. A lot less people own them compared to i9505 and many Devs have shied away from phones with no source.
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I have a Gnexus and a N4 at home at the moment. I gave them to gf and kids.
Am I disappointed of my 9500? Not at all, everything is better than my old N4 from screen to battery life.
Yea i have less rom to flash, but I don't care, I have one without bloatware that's running great, fast.
Here they're selling the 9505, so I imported my GT-I9500, paid 150$ more than what 9505 would've cost me. And I would redo it tomorrow without hesitation if I needed to.
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i love my S4, only dissapointment would be the purple tint i get at low brightness and maybe the touchwiz ui crappy looks besides that my 9500 is a monster
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I was also using a GNex befor i bought my 9500.. i got bored of aosp.. so bought a touchwiz device.. but now i miss aosp so much..
But thanks to vertumus, his themes looks awesome like the good old aosps
Hope aosp or atlease cm releases soon..
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With all of Samsung`s latest android tablet`s having stereo front facing speakers, i think they dropped the ball, Letting HTC get the first stereo phone, i would have bought the S4 instead of the One if they had.
John.
I just switched from the 9500 to the htc one a few days ago.
I had a note 1. I enjoyed it for a few years. I wanted an updated experience that felt fresh and snappy and provided something slightly different. The s4 just did not do this for me.
Is it a good phone? absolutely.
But for me it didnt do anything i was left wanting.
The htc one has provided me with what i was looking for. Absolutely blazing UI theres no stutter or lag in any form or in any function. An enhanced sound experience vis a vis the boomsound speakers.
Zoe. - its fun
Premium finish - seriously its just so superbly crafted.
I think what most S4 I9500 user longing for was an absolute support from Samsung. An update that would really fix issues. Devs could only do as much. Fws came flying out from Samsung lab that does nothing.
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why do you need more custom roms, kernels, mods to consider it a good device?
the i9500 has fewer roms, kernels but those developments are unique that you cant find it in the i9505 dev's threads. especially the Persues Kernel from Andrei, the screen/sound mods are the true original works that others dont have. and i have seen users from 9505 going to Persues's/Wanam's Thread asking to port their mods to i9505 just because they dont have those unique features even they have more roms/kernels.
i upgraded from n2 to s4 because i know Andrei, Wanam, Indie are there. and their qualities are more than enough to convince me. i am lucky that i dont have to import i9500, my country is selling it
My s4 is a monster !!!
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I have to choose between N4 and S4

Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4 [EDIT: ROM!]
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Guzanni said:
Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
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Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
hacksome said:
S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4.
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Yes, I the S4 has better display and better camera. The screen is the best reason I can think of to take the S4.
But like I said, I work in a phone shop and I won this S4 and I don't get to choose between the normal and Google edition. Besides that, I saw that I can easily install the Google Edition rom on my S4 after I rooted it.
tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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That was my first intention to do, sell it and wait till the new Nexus comes out and but it. But now I am thinking about using the S4 till the new Nexus comes out. The new Nexus is going to be my new phone after it comes out, no doubt about it.
Treshy said:
flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Haha I understand you're jealous, I would also be I quickly checked the I9505 forums and yes, I saw a couple of custom roms are available for it. So yes, that is also something that I consider.
zcucurullo said:
Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
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Thank you for the links! I like the fact that Google brought out Google Editions of top phones like S4 and HTC ONE.
Do you mean that you bought the N4 because of the price issue? If it was same price, you would buy the S4? I would also, but the root scene behind the N4 is bigger, you know..
Look, I like the fact that everything that has to do with root, is available for the N4. So IF I get an S4, I surely will root and would like to use AOSP stuff and custom roms, but also some mods that need root.
I don't need more space, but the bigger/better screen and camera are a plus.
I also said after I got my N4 that I would never use or buy another phone than a Nexus, but getting the S4 for free changed my mind..
maxio1998 said:
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
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Yes, I know mate, I already own the Nexus for 10 months now it's awesome.
I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
Nitemare3219 said:
I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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Exacly my thoughts. I don't hate it appearance and the buttons, but I like the the appearance of the N4. The hardware is undoubtly better.
Well, if the new Nexus comes out, I will sell my N4 or S4 and get it as soon as I can
Yeah, though decision it is. I am very curious about an S4 running on stock android actually. But if I test it on my new S4, and try to sell it afterwards, the price will be lower, because it isn't sealed anymore.
epidemic11 said:
I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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Thanks for the information! N4 is amazing expecially on PA with Franco. But I haven't heard about that Hospital's color profile thing, I will check it out.
But if I get the S4, I will surely root it and get a custom rom on it. I expect the S4 to outclass the N4 when they are both running on a custom rom/kernel, correct me if I'm wrong...
As a former S4 owner i can tell you that softwarewise the S4 is a total failure. It lags, stutters and opening apps and widgets takes way too long. This is soley caused by the poorly optimized software. The N4 on paper seems way less but in real life it feels much more fluid and lags are very very rare.
But that said the screen (not in direct sunlight), speaker and camera of the S4 are better.
The N4 and XDA support is a win win!
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
Del both and get the lg g2, the first droolworthy non nexus android in ages!
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Sturdy_99 said:
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
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Lol , FACEPALM !
The octa core does not mean all 8 cores are active. It's a combination of 4 A15 cores, and 4 low powered A7 cores, a BiG.little architecture.
And 2nd thing, don't rely on benchmarks as a real life performance measure, nexus devices are never good in that field, yet they offer the best user experience (my opinion).
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Honestly, get the s4 and sell it right away. Don't even open the box. Use the money to get the n5 in fall. I see u value community support a lot, so this would be ur number one option. Samsung's support is just crap. Even a Google edition cannot be compared to pure aosp experience of the nexus and is definitely NOT the same! A lot of sources are still closed at Samsung.
Don't forget ur loss of warranty either, once u unlock the bootloader. U need crap like triangle away, a usb dongle or so on to reset the Samsung counter. If ur screen brakes u might be screwed in case of RMA. With a nexus u just lock the bootloader and u r done!
Also, many people are running around with a Samsung device. A nexus is just rare and far more special
Hope I could help!
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tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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Ding ding ding we have a winner thats what I would do, but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have. The s4 is nice and I wanted it but the phone gets returned a lot at my job. Its sold the most but returned at a higher rate. I wont lie and say the s4 didnt cross my mind but the price is crazy to me. I keep phones maybe 6 months. Also keep in mind that the screen on the s4 gets micro cracks and is known for that. Known to break randomly. Didn't know till a customer told me about it. Happened to a friend of his.
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/19121
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I would say sell the gs4, they retail for up to 800$ on eBay and with that money you can buy a nexus 5 and have money left over
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Jjday7 said:
but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have.
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Why would he want to do that? As far as I understood, he already owns a n4. Why should he buy another n4 and sell the old one? I'd prefer banking the money he'd make selling the s4 and wait for the n5 or whatever it'll be called.
However, I fully agree to the rest of your post!
Greetings

Is s4 still good for buying?

Hey.. Used s4 4 months ago.. Had No issue(had screen blue tint issue but its common in all amoleds)
Sold it for some financial reason..
Thinking to buy new phone..
Will s4 good option again..? Is that phone is gonna old now?
Will my friend will feel wow if I buy s4 ?? xD lol
If s4 is not good then any other phone in this price range?
(Note 3 is high price + its big for normal use + I don't need stylus pen..)
Please suggest....
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You can give a nexus 5 a try, maybe the htc one.
But personally i love my s4, if you try to have the last and most fashioned tech ever you will end with a new phone eveey two weeks...
But yeah what one you had? The i9505 or i9500.
I ask that cause you need to keep in mind all roms and posibilities you have with one or another.
I have a 9500 and slowly but surelly roms and magic start to roll and now i have 4.3 and my little beast run everything smooth, with no issues.
So my answer is yes it whorth it..
Sorry for the long answer...
Good luck
Sent from the past...
Although the lack of camera and external storage on the nexus 5 is very off putting... I'm still very tempted. Would have 200 left if I sold my phone. And it looks stunning the nexus 5 does.
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well if u are asking if it s kinda old news , then yeh . the s5 will come out in a couple of month according to samsung so it s bettet to wait. Also as ktouy said u might want to give the nexus 5 a try .
Yes it's still a great phone and still getting updates. If you are a fan of always getting the latest things you could go for a nexus 5.
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only if you need the camera or sdcard
nexus 5 kill every phone out there and you can buy more stuff
but s4 camera is really epic
Thanx guys.. Actually m not heavy user not much camera just personalisation fan obviously should smooth.. But my next question is.. after buying s4 spending big money.. Will worth? I mean my friends(include girl friend) xD.. will think that "shee!! This is s4 how cheap.. Not good"
That is second thing I don't want...
So. Is there any thing like that?
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If you want to stick with s4 you can buy the I 9506 with the new snapdragon s800.Then you will have your beloved phone with new top specs
NO. Wait for S5. If it's January then it's not long. Going to Nexus from S4 is ridiculous unless you are a fan of that other thing, AOSP or whatever, a dumb display, impossible.
However S4 is pretty badly optimized outta box. You need to install a custom kernel and do some tweaks to make it run smooth. 4.3 is another big blunder Samsung has done, a testing ROM got released just to stay in competition with other brands and their upgrade schedule. If it weren't for the size I would never have sold the Note 2, God it was so smooth, so much better optimized than S4!

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