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Wanna move on but to what!

Hello guys!
Its been a real pleasure being with Nexus S
Its a great cell phone, I love it but now I am at point where I have to change my cell phone, now I wanna buy a LG Nexus 4 but it has not come in my country yet and i dont know when would it come..
So that and the price factor gives me a choice to have either Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S II (Yes 2 not 3 )
now in my head i dont need fast updates because i always use a custom rom and i am ok with even a lower one,
I have used GB in nexus s even though i tasted JB
So the updates are not a problem for me, I just want a cell phone that can last me at least a year with a nice play for the upcoming games or anything else like that.
What would you advise me to buy? GSII or GNex?
If some other with the same specs or better but with same price factor then kindly let me know..

Can't go wrong with either. If you care about roms then the gnex would be the best since it will get the major android updates til the software is to much for the hardware.
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+1.
Seriously, choosing between the GNex and the S2? That's not fair because the S2 was released by Samsung to steal market from the Nexus S after releasing the latter. (IMHO, the S2 is just a Nexus S on steroids). Now if you are choosing between the GNex and the S3, that would be a better comparison, the S3 is better in hardware but would take 10 years to get an update compared to the Gnex, but like you said, if you're happy with ROMs like CM or AOKP, then it would probably matter less.
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GNex.

GNex would probably be a better choice. It's a pretty great phone.

There will only be one upgrade for me and that will be the s3.
I love the Nexus brand but a Wolfson DAC is a must for me in any new phone.
I'm happy now with my NS. But in a few years I will get the s3.
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converse5 said:
Hello guys!
Its been a real pleasure being with Nexus S
Its a great cell phone, I love it but now I am at point where I have to change my cell phone, now I wanna buy a LG Nexus 4 but it has not come in my country yet and i dont know when would it come..
So that and the price factor gives me a choice to have either Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S II (Yes 2 not 3 )
now in my head i dont need fast updates because i always use a custom rom and i am ok with even a lower one,
I have used GB in nexus s even though i tasted JB
So the updates are not a problem for me, I just want a cell phone that can last me at least a year with a nice play for the upcoming games or anything else like that.
What would you advise me to buy? GSII or GNex?
If some other with the same specs or better but with same price factor then kindly let me know..
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The SGSII and the GNex are extremely similar. The GNex has a slightly lower pixel density on the camera, but a little larger screen.
If you're in love with AOSP roms, the GNex will be the way to go. If you just want another phone and have the money to blow on a good SD and such, then go SGSII.

I contacted one of the market dealer today and he said that in a few weeks they would have LG Nexus 4
If that comes then i would go for it else I would buy Gnex then
Thanks all for help

converse5 said:
I contacted one of the market dealer today and he said that in a few weeks they would have LG Nexus 4
If that comes then i would go for it else I would buy Gnex then
Thanks all for help
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Surprising that developemt is slow for for the n4 but it pick up soon I suppose
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apatal said:
+1.
Seriously, choosing between the GNex and the S2? That's not fair because the S2 was released by Samsung to steal market from the Nexus S after releasing the latter. (IMHO, the S2 is just a Nexus S on steroids)...
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I dunno where did you read hardware info, but, S2 and NS are in no way comparable... S1 have similar hardware to NS, S2 has similar hardware to GN...
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Might want to look at this. Seems like n4 having screen issus like the g2x.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990276
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Who is dumping the N4 for the galaxy s4?

Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.

persheshhater said:
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not getting the s4, maybe xperia z if Sony gets their sh*t together and releases c6606 soon. I don't use my phone much for gaming anymore, especially larger games like NFS. That's what the N10 is for.

I won't get a S4 unless I win one

I'll probably get one for my girl in a couple months when people who can't pay their bill start selling them on craigslist. I'm ok with my nexus for now, at least till the next one comes out
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Absolutely no chance. 16GB is more than enough for me, Touchwiz is hideous, Exynos devices are notoriously difficult to port AOSP roms to and the device itself will probably be hideous too. I'd much rather have my N4

only is samsung blows the htc one away, i loved the s2 but loathe the build quality of the s3

nex4 is fine, until nexus 5 is out. then i'll switch. its not about specs. i want a free and unregulated android, google is the only one who provides that. i love software and seeing it progress, i couldn't cope with being locked out of everything that concerns android, for a couple of gb. i can't even imagine how a samsung customer watches the I/O, probably they don't, but if they do - how do they manage seeing all the nice things knowing full well its not for them. don't they feel strange when 2 hours after its over leaks rain over xda and everyone's running the latest and greatest, and they just have to wait until next fall?

If it's not vanilla Android then it doesn't get any thought from me
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persheshhater said:
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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This is why I have the N7
And no I will not switch either. I was close to buying a s3, but the software wasn't up to par with what I am used to. My last device was the Sensation and I took off Sense 3.0 as fast as I could for JB lol. Like moles said, the customizations in just plain Android is great IMO, no need to embellish it with multiple windows or smartscrolling

It will sell on name alone regardless looking and feeling like any other TW device
I don't need a still plastic-y, spec bumped Galaxy S3. After owning the Nexus 4, Samsung is child's play. I've owned and used over a dozen android phones since '08 and the Nexus 4 is the best I've owned/used.
Still, I can't wait to at least play with the Galaxy S4 even though it will feel like an S2 and S3.

persheshhater said:
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not a chance. I have a N10 for things like that, didnt like the build of my Galaxy Nexus (Samsung), dont want a bigger screen and think the skins are horrid.

I love my N4 and won't want a GS4...am I curious about it and its hardware? Sure I am a tech nut and am always curious about new stuff...just like when the new iPhones come out I sit and watch the apple videos and such to learn about it...does it mean I want either? Hell no I don't like touch wiz, or the fact that Samsung still uses hard ware buttons and I don't like iOS or the fact that it hasn't changed in 4 or 5 years other than little things or craptastic things like siri...I love owning nexus devices for one simple reason...the software...besides that this phone is fast as heck on the processor side of things and it just so happens to be one hell of a good looking phone with the added bonus of being unlocked and not bound to some 2 year agreement makes it all the more sweeter with out shelling out $600+ like I would if I wanted the newest galaxy s iteration.
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estallings15 said:
I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.
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Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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persheshhater said:
Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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I have owned the Galaxy S, S2, S3 ,Note and Note2 and i liked them all (especialy the Note2) but Nexus devices have something extra imo. Easy to root and restore, fast, no bloatware, and always the latest updates and getting them first.

I think my avatar and device roster answers the question.

persheshhater said:
And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support.
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dev support doesnt mean crap when they have no sources. you get a lot of devs supporting one another by lending a shoulder to cry on or distributing kleenex. i am a follower of teamhacksungs blogs and dev g+ accounts, i like to read what they do. if you have nerves you best go there and take a good look what happenes when samsung releases the next big closed thing coz these guys are basically ****ed, they can sit down now for months and hack stupid things that should be open in the firstplace.

I just don't think an upgrade is necessary. 720p to 1080p is not that big of a difference compared to the jump from QHD or WVGA to 720p, and the S4 Pro is handling everything with ease. When the processor starts falling behind that I can notice it in daily use, or one of the technologies advances in a major way (battery, maybe?), I don't think I will be selling my nexus for another phone.

persheshhater said:
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Sell it to me
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I rather wait till nexus 5

Should I sell my N4 for the Galaxy S4?

Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?

bagmar.rakesh said:
Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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i will be selling N4 for S4 need LTE

Won't sell my Nexus 4 until I get my Nexus 5
I had an S3, and I've not totally given up on Samsung after all the fuss over sources for developers etc, not what I like to see. Very happy still with my Nexus 4, nothing to make me consider an 'upgrade' (and I normally always demand the latest and greatest).

As for your first question, it's really entirely down to opinion. If you don't want any of the newer hardware on the GS4 (i.e. 1080p screen, octa-core processor, 13MP camera etc.) then don't bother. I personally don't see it as worth it at all. I would never be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p screens, I can't conceive of any task in the foreseeable future which the S4 Pro won't be able to handle, I don't use my camera too much and I don't need the expandable storage. Your opinion may well differ, and at the end of the day you definitely won't be able to get a definitive answer to this as it's all down to opinion.
As for the second question, there's already a thread in the Q&A about this (in which the vast majority of people answered no).

The only way id sell my n4 is to maybe get a n5. The s4 didnt really impress me an all of its new features seem gimmicky

No
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Yes.
Why, so someone that wants and will enjoy the n4 will get it, and then you can get and use what you want as well..
I'm thinking I'll eventually sell mine to get an xphone, maybe.. For the meanwhile I'm enjoying it

hopefully n5 will be better so no..who the hell likes touchwiz anyways

All these new phones could make your tea and replace your loved one in the bedroom for all i care they are all more than double the price so they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb

bagmar.rakesh said:
Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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That's like saying should I trade my playboy playmate girlfriend for some fat ugly chic? If that's what you're into then go for it.

Just remember your N4 will get the next version of Android and the features that will bring, your S4? Well you may have to wait a while to get version 5 of Android! Sure the S4 may have better specs but software is just as important as hardware!

dmo580 said:
*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
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1. Battery has been great for me, better than sensation and mt4g.
2. Can be done with apps, I tuned mine based off of an oled, love the screen now
3. It does, users are using lte now
4. This was known prior to release
5. Also previously known prior to release
Expandable storage would make nexus an unfair competing device, Google must still cooperate with other manufacturers...
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personally i think that the SGS4 is a great phone BUT I don't see any reason for us (the moderate users) to take a leap for it and thats why:
the nexus 4 is amazingly fast, battery is just fine and if u need more than that get a portable charger, PURE android and fast updates so u don't get tied to the manufacturer's good will, I don't like the Super AMOLED display to my eyes the colors are too saturated but that doesnt mean they are not good.
i've bought the nexus after having 4 HTC devices and i must say pure android device is an another league, the custom UI is just slowing it down.
and so about the Exynos 5 Octa
this is NOT a real Octa core. this processor packs tow quad cores
4-cortex A7 @1.6ghz for power 'saving'
4-cortex A15 @ 1.2ghz for performance.
i dont believe in this concept but maybe it's just me.....
so i dont see reason to buy the sgs4 while u can enjoy the nexus 4.
just my opinion.....
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I'm more tempted to the HTC One but Nexus 5 rumors are 1337

Never ever !
I had the S3 before, i gave it to my son and enjoy the N4 now.
I love bug-free custom ROMs, you will never have this on a Samsung product.

http://mblog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-wont-develop-for-the-galaxy-s4/
Just further confirmation that the development landscape for the s4 will be very barren

dmo580 said:
*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
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- Go ahead and try different roms an kernels, you can double your screen on time with the right combination.
- Go ahead and try different kernels, as an example, the recomended values that comes with franco will blow your mind away.
- Well you have a point there, me personally don't need that LTE speed.
4,5 - Well, I don't really understand why people needs more than 16gb in a phone, is your phone a cinema theater or something that has tons of movies to store or what?

First nexus phone for me after an S2 and an S3. I'm never moving to any other device unless it's the next nexus. Nuff said.
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yoft1 said:
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-wont-develop-for-the-galaxy-s4/
Just further confirmation that the development landscape for the s4 will be very barren
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The CM team debunked that.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/7jywLJdswki
Setting Device Expectations
Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.
This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.
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I should add that whether you sell your Nexus 4 to buy an S4 is completely up to you. That is an extremely personal decision, and only the OP can decide that. Anything else is just everyone else's personal opinion, and is usually going to go between people who actually use and love the Nexus 4 (or Nexus in general), and those who don't but post here anyway. Being as this is the Nexus 4 board, I would think the question is most likely going to be slanted in one direction.

[Q] Top phones!!! Read!

If this question isn't in the right thread please redirect!!!
Obviously I'm a noob. I just need a few people to help me find the perfect phone. Between these 4:
Lg Optimus G pro
Sony Xperia Z
Samsung Galaxy S4
HTC One
I have T-Mobile or else I would have a rather larger amount of options.
I'm more of a media type person, but I use my phone to browse the web, shop online, listen to music, and Use Google Now to get directions and such
The reason why I put my question in the Nexus 4 thread is because I HAVE A NEXUS 4. I would like to know if I should just keep it or buy one of those phones above! Please help!

I'm biased towards Nexus devices :good::highfive:

rangerforces83 said:
If this question isn't in the right thread please redirect!!!
Obviously I'm a noob. I just need a few people to help me find the perfect phone. Between these 4:
Lg Optimus G pro
Sony Xperia Z
Samsung Galaxy S4
HTC One
I have T-Mobile or else I would have a rather larger amount of options.
I'm more of a media type person, but I use my phone to browse the web, shop online, listen to music, and Use Google Now to get directions and such
The reason why I put my question in the Nexus 4 thread is because I HAVE A NEXUS 4. I would like to know if I should just keep it or buy one of those phones above! Please help!
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There is an entire section for this: Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
And no one is going to pick a phone for you.. Just because you proclaim yourself a noob isn't stopping you from doing your own research.

They are all the same.

rangerforces83 said:
If this question isn't in the right thread please redirect!!!
Obviously I'm a noob. I just need a few people to help me find the perfect phone. Between these 4:
Lg Optimus G pro
Sony Xperia Z
Samsung Galaxy S4
HTC One
I have T-Mobile or else I would have a rather larger amount of options.
I'm more of a media type person, but I use my phone to browse the web, shop online, listen to music, and Use Google Now to get directions and such
The reason why I put my question in the Nexus 4 thread is because I HAVE A NEXUS 4. I would like to know if I should just keep it or buy one of those phones above! Please help!
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So you would be buying these phone off-contract? Or are they subsidized? I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the new T-Mobile.
Connor Baker

@ connor baker
I have already done my research. I just want you to tell me the best 3 . the reason why I am asking is because I can't figure out the best one for the price.

Sony, LG, HTC (best to worst in that order). Seriously, don't go with Samsung.
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Too much hate on the Samsungs. In my opinion get the Galaxy Note II or wait for the Note III. If not get the Galaxy SIV. The features included in it are amazing and also if they are all going AOSP then what does it matter. New TouchWiz is great. Also are you looking at the Samsung Galaxy SIV GTI9505 or GTI9500
It will be very biased here.
I say Samsung Galaxy SIV is first choice, then HTC One tied with Xperia Z. Both were great phones.
I havent tried the LG but they never update their phones. But its you call at the end
~ Taylor_Swift
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If I had money to throw away I will go for the HTC one. I am assuming you have really high income to be considering moving from a nexus 4 to get any of those.
Just watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uFFNNBhMc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
(HTC one is ~= SGS4 in performance)
Nexus 4 is a TOP phone performance wise...
So the question is: is it worth spending ~600$ for build quality, better screen, better speakers and better camera?
It's not for me.
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Taylor_Swift said:
Too much hate on the Samsungs. In my opinion get the Galaxy Note II or wait for the Note III. If not get the Galaxy SIV. The features included in it are amazing and also if they are all going AOSP then what does it matter. New TouchWiz is great. Also are you looking at the Samsung Galaxy SIV GTI9505 or GTI9500
It will be very biased here.
I say Samsung Galaxy SIV is first choice, then HTC One tied with Xperia Z. Both were great phones.
I havent tried the LG but they never update their phones. But its you call at the end
~ Taylor_Swift
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What features? You mean gimmicks.. Most people who buy the S4 just want to showoff and don't really use their phones features.and how can you say touch wiz is great its froyo-ish and lags all the time with the S4 and eats up to much space on the S4 storage
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rangerforces83 said:
If this question isn't in the right thread please redirect!!!
Obviously I'm a noob. I just need a few people to help me find the perfect phone. Between these 4:
Lg Optimus G pro
Sony Xperia Z
Samsung Galaxy S4
HTC One
I have T-Mobile or else I would have a rather larger amount of options.
I'm more of a media type person, but I use my phone to browse the web, shop online, listen to music, and Use Google Now to get directions and such
The reason why I put my question in the Nexus 4 thread is because I HAVE A NEXUS 4. I would like to know if I should just keep it or buy one of those phones above! Please help!
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Here's my super biased opinion.
HTC One (because i've tried one yesterday, pretty good quality and it flies!)
Sony Xperia Z (because I used to love sony. Tried the phone, not much of a difference compared to the N4)
LG Optimus G Pro (because well.. We're using LG now aren't we? Not sure how their non-aosp devices would stand tho.)
Samsung Galaxy S4 (because it lags like a grand mother and i hate samsung for adding galaxy to the galaxy nexus and for their ****ty build quality.)

rangerforces83 said:
If this question isn't in the right thread please redirect!!!
Obviously I'm a noob. I just need a few people to help me find the perfect phone. Between these 4:
Lg Optimus G pro
Sony Xperia Z
Samsung Galaxy S4
HTC One
I have T-Mobile or else I would have a rather larger amount of options.
I'm more of a media type person, but I use my phone to browse the web, shop online, listen to music, and Use Google Now to get directions and such
The reason why I put my question in the Nexus 4 thread is because I HAVE A NEXUS 4. I would like to know if I should just keep it or buy one of those phones above! Please help!
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Where is the BEST of all - NEXUS 4. Its not in your Top phones list.
Looking at the 4 phones they all are same BUT Nexus 4 stands out and unique with its own pros and cons.

cause i have it
Rohit02 said:
Where is the BEST of all - NEXUS 4. Its not in your Top phones list.
Looking at the 4 phones they all are same BUT Nexus 4 stands out and unique with its own pros and cons.
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Because I already have it. I've even rooted it with cm10 , xenonhd(currently) and paranoidandroid 3.15. Its kind of boring. Maybe because last year I used to switch from different tablets and such. Literally have had 9. Im just trying to find a phone that won't get boring. Its really difficult

rangerforces83 said:
Because I already have it. I've even rooted it with cm10 , xenonhd(currently) and paranoidandroid 3.15. Its kind of boring. Maybe because last year I used to switch from different tablets and such. Literally have had 9. Im just trying to find a phone that won't get boring. Its really difficult
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If nexus 4 is a boring smartphone, I'm Santa Claus.
If you try to learn something here on xda instead of change devices it's better. No one want to be a noob for ever.
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Choose a phone based upon what you will use it for. Games, internet, movies, texting and calls? A smaller device might be suitable for you if you only plan on using it for texting/calls or a device like the s4 for movies/gaming.
The nexus 4 is a great device, decent screen size, amazing performance... even on stock.

your list doesn't even have nexus listed in it. I wonder why you posted this question here!

I'd say stick with the Nexus but if you're adamant about switching then
1. HTC One - unrivalled build quality, great performance, Sense is actually quite nice here, overall a great phone
2. GS4 - awful build quality and fugly TouchWiz but lots of development on XDA and outstanding hardware specs
3. Xperia Z - decent specs and great build quality/feel in hand (not to mention waterproof) but poor viewing angles on the display and if you're going to dish out money on a new phone you may as well get one with next-generation hardware rather than the XZ which is between the two generations
4. LGOG Pro - screen is too large IMO, cheap feel to the device and, being an LG, there's little chance of you getting updates and there's not too much development

We already have a phone comparing other phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021559
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Stay with Nexus or HTC 1.

I have to choose between N4 and S4

Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!

S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4 [EDIT: ROM!]

Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Guzanni said:
Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
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Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!

Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome

I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.

hacksome said:
S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4.
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Yes, I the S4 has better display and better camera. The screen is the best reason I can think of to take the S4.
But like I said, I work in a phone shop and I won this S4 and I don't get to choose between the normal and Google edition. Besides that, I saw that I can easily install the Google Edition rom on my S4 after I rooted it.
tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
Sent from my Nexus 4
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That was my first intention to do, sell it and wait till the new Nexus comes out and but it. But now I am thinking about using the S4 till the new Nexus comes out. The new Nexus is going to be my new phone after it comes out, no doubt about it.
Treshy said:
flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Haha I understand you're jealous, I would also be I quickly checked the I9505 forums and yes, I saw a couple of custom roms are available for it. So yes, that is also something that I consider.
zcucurullo said:
Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
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Thank you for the links! I like the fact that Google brought out Google Editions of top phones like S4 and HTC ONE.
Do you mean that you bought the N4 because of the price issue? If it was same price, you would buy the S4? I would also, but the root scene behind the N4 is bigger, you know..
Look, I like the fact that everything that has to do with root, is available for the N4. So IF I get an S4, I surely will root and would like to use AOSP stuff and custom roms, but also some mods that need root.
I don't need more space, but the bigger/better screen and camera are a plus.
I also said after I got my N4 that I would never use or buy another phone than a Nexus, but getting the S4 for free changed my mind..
maxio1998 said:
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
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Yes, I know mate, I already own the Nexus for 10 months now it's awesome.

I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).

Nitemare3219 said:
I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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Exacly my thoughts. I don't hate it appearance and the buttons, but I like the the appearance of the N4. The hardware is undoubtly better.
Well, if the new Nexus comes out, I will sell my N4 or S4 and get it as soon as I can
Yeah, though decision it is. I am very curious about an S4 running on stock android actually. But if I test it on my new S4, and try to sell it afterwards, the price will be lower, because it isn't sealed anymore.

epidemic11 said:
I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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Thanks for the information! N4 is amazing expecially on PA with Franco. But I haven't heard about that Hospital's color profile thing, I will check it out.
But if I get the S4, I will surely root it and get a custom rom on it. I expect the S4 to outclass the N4 when they are both running on a custom rom/kernel, correct me if I'm wrong...

As a former S4 owner i can tell you that softwarewise the S4 is a total failure. It lags, stutters and opening apps and widgets takes way too long. This is soley caused by the poorly optimized software. The N4 on paper seems way less but in real life it feels much more fluid and lags are very very rare.
But that said the screen (not in direct sunlight), speaker and camera of the S4 are better.

The N4 and XDA support is a win win!

in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....

Del both and get the lg g2, the first droolworthy non nexus android in ages!
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Sturdy_99 said:
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
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Lol , FACEPALM !
The octa core does not mean all 8 cores are active. It's a combination of 4 A15 cores, and 4 low powered A7 cores, a BiG.little architecture.
And 2nd thing, don't rely on benchmarks as a real life performance measure, nexus devices are never good in that field, yet they offer the best user experience (my opinion).
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Honestly, get the s4 and sell it right away. Don't even open the box. Use the money to get the n5 in fall. I see u value community support a lot, so this would be ur number one option. Samsung's support is just crap. Even a Google edition cannot be compared to pure aosp experience of the nexus and is definitely NOT the same! A lot of sources are still closed at Samsung.
Don't forget ur loss of warranty either, once u unlock the bootloader. U need crap like triangle away, a usb dongle or so on to reset the Samsung counter. If ur screen brakes u might be screwed in case of RMA. With a nexus u just lock the bootloader and u r done!
Also, many people are running around with a Samsung device. A nexus is just rare and far more special
Hope I could help!
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tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Ding ding ding we have a winner thats what I would do, but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have. The s4 is nice and I wanted it but the phone gets returned a lot at my job. Its sold the most but returned at a higher rate. I wont lie and say the s4 didnt cross my mind but the price is crazy to me. I keep phones maybe 6 months. Also keep in mind that the screen on the s4 gets micro cracks and is known for that. Known to break randomly. Didn't know till a customer told me about it. Happened to a friend of his.
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/19121
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I would say sell the gs4, they retail for up to 800$ on eBay and with that money you can buy a nexus 5 and have money left over
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Jjday7 said:
but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have.
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Why would he want to do that? As far as I understood, he already owns a n4. Why should he buy another n4 and sell the old one? I'd prefer banking the money he'd make selling the s4 and wait for the n5 or whatever it'll be called.
However, I fully agree to the rest of your post!
Greetings