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[Q] Updating stock 4.2.2 - options?

Hi all!
I have a stock Samsung GT-I9505 with 4.2.2
Version Info
AP: I9505XXUAMDM
CP: I9505XXUAMDM
CSC: I9505OXXAMDB
I'd like to update to a stock or stockish rom, without Knox bootloader, updating the modem and then rooting.
I've done a lot of reading on the topic but I'm getting somwhat confused as there are so many different methods depending on the version, and if you have Knox. There are also Modem/Wi-Fi issues etc.
Any tips on the method or can someone advise which stock rom/modem to go for?
I'm trying to set out and build up a step by step method that will avoid any complications.

cps_goodbuy said:
Hi all!
I have a stock Samsung GT-I9505 with 4.2.2
Version Info
AP: I9505XXUAMDM
CP: I9505XXUAMDM
CSC: I9505OXXAMDB
I'd like to update to a stock or stockish rom, without Knox bootloader, updating the modem and then rooting.
I've done a lot of reading on the topic but I'm getting somwhat confused as there are so many different methods depending on the version, and if you have Knox. There are also Modem/Wi-Fi issues etc.
Any tips on the method or can someone advise which stock rom/modem to go for?
I'm trying to set out and build up a step by step method that will avoid any complications.
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Flash Pre-rootedXXUBMGA through Odin and then Install triangle away and reset the binary , and then flash any Custom Recovery via odin and download a Custom 4.3 rom you want then go to recovery do a full wipe and flash the custom rom you downloaded.. Have a nice day.

Repulsa said:
Flash Pre-rootedXXUBMGA through Odin and then Install triangle away and reset the binary , and then flash any Custom Recovery via odin and download a Custom 4.3 rom you want and flash it via recovery. Have a nice day.
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Thanks for the info! Still reading all I can to avoid mistakes.
After installing a Custom recovery, I take it I don't need to reset the binary anymore? Will search about whether I can flash back the standard recovery.
Would it not be better to install a Pre-rooted and knox-free stock 4.3 rom? Are there any holes to avoid?

cps_goodbuy said:
Thanks for the info! Still reading all I can to avoid mistakes.
After installing a Custom recovery, I take it I don't need to reset the binary anymore? Will search about whether I can flash back the standard recovery.
Would it not be better to install a Pre-rooted and knox-free stock 4.3 rom? Are there any holes to avoid?
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Well that's how i do it since im still on old bootloader and and doesnt have knox warranty void (I do it from the scratch because i want a fresh install hehe) , anyways you need to root your phone and install a custom recovery and download a 4.3 custom rom and flash it via recovery , once done flashing you need to flash a 4.3 modem in order to prevent a dropping signal issue. Have a nice day.

Repulsa said:
Well that's how i do it since im still on old bootloader and and doesnt have knox warranty void (I do it from the scratch because i want a fresh install hehe) , anyways you need to root your phone and install a custom recovery and download a 4.3 custom rom and flash it via recovery , once done flashing you need to flash a 4.3 modem in order to prevent a dropping signal issue. Have a nice day.
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Is it possible to flash a stock 4.3 rom (without the bootloader) so I don't have to do a data wipe?

yuuuuuuuu said:
Is it possible to flash a stock 4.3 rom (without the bootloader) so I don't have to do a data wipe?
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You can flash a custom 4.3 rom but not a stock 4.3 rom since that will give u a newbootloader mate. Im giving you all the tips i can . But feel free either search the forum or wait for some1's opinion. Have a nice day.
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[Q] where to start? clockword recovery mod etc

Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick

seventje84 said:
Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick
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OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.

radicalisto said:
OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.
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First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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1- Yup, once you get the new bootloader you can't downgrade, you can however flash ROMS which are created with this new bootloader, so far SweetROM, AndroidNow NG and(soon to be coming) AllianceROM are NA6 compatible.
2-CM was built on the old BL source, it'll probably eventually get updated to NA6 BL at some point, but for now it's based on MJ7 BL.
3/4- Yup if you are EU like myself, then KNOX warranty means nothing to us, I was just confirming you were aware of this
-- CWM has to be installed via ODIN, takes 20seconds to flash via PDA option in ODIN 1.85. CWM will be your main base recovery and you can install/wipe/mount etc as and when you need to.
*Side note, my advice, stick with your current bootloader and avoid the new kitkat bootloader, install CWM and flash in temasek's CM build and custom kernel. It's a fantastic build! just need to install the gAPPS to get Playstore and google apps etc - also Official Nightlies have been announced and are live by CM**
Any other queries just post away :good:

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's

radicalisto said:
Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's
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I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

Koumorisword said:
I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Nope, that wipe should be enough. Probably a buggy ROM. Try another and see if you have any issues.

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe.
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You want to look for EU Directive 1999/44/CE
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu

things before trip knox ..

Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you

RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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Only one thing once knox is tripped there's know going back

ok
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Most important, turn re-activation lock OFF..
If it's on you will have problems....

RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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It would have been interesting to at least try some new test in the process - for instance I have seen some intriguing reports from N900W8 models where they have apparently installed some version of xnote (custom rom pre-rooted) without tripping knox presumably by somehow using stock Samsung kernel and stock Samsung recovery (I repeat, that was THEIR claim, not mine, but more research and testing on the subject would be nice).

I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
Sent from my SM-N900W8 using xda app-developers app

I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks

DrawnToLife said:
I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
Sent from my SM-N900W8 using xda app-developers app
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That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).

xclub_101 said:
That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).
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No, not possible to downgrade to MJ1 even when you came from MJ1 and upgraded to MJ4.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using xda app-developers app

anameeeen said:
I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks
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I followed this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618633

[Q] Questions on installing CWM

Hi all, im a noobie with samsung devices and this whole Odin thing so decided to ask here before messing up things.
So, i want to install a custom rom. I rooted my device with towelroot just a while ago, so now i only need a CWM recovery.Can i just download the latest CWM .tar file for note 3 and flash it through Odin? Will the fact that i rooted using towelroot have any impact on this? Also, will towelroot stick when flashing the CWM recovery, or flashing a new rom?
Can Rom Manager be used to install CWM, as i understand that it is a supported device. Is it a worse way than going through Odin?
My plan is to make a backup with CWM and then probably flash X-Note rom if all goes how i planned it.
Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere, couldn't find with browsing and searching for a good while.
Im on N9005 and 4.4.2
Thanks for all help!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454079
Use this to install CWM through Odin it is better.
When u flash the new ROM and after wiping, the root using towelroot will be gone but probably the rom u'll be flashing will already be rooted or u can root easily with CF auto root.
I recommend TWRP over CWM, especially for a new flasher
Cheers!
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk

georgesmh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454079
Use this to install CWM through Odin it is better.
When u flash the new ROM and after wiping, the root using towelroot will be gone but probably the rom u'll be flashing will already be rooted or u can root easily with CF auto root.
I recommend TWRP over CWM, especially for a new flasher
Cheers!
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
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Thank you!

SKELLUP said:
Hi all, im a noobie with samsung devices and this whole Odin thing so decided to ask here before messing up things.
So, i want to install a custom rom. I rooted my device with towelroot just a while ago, so now i only need a CWM recovery.Can i just download the latest CWM .tar file for note 3 and flash it through Odin? Will the fact that i rooted using towelroot have any impact on this? Also, will towelroot stick when flashing the CWM recovery, or flashing a new rom?
Can Rom Manager be used to install CWM, as i understand that it is a supported device. Is it a worse way than going through Odin?
My plan is to make a backup with CWM and then probably flash X-Note rom if all goes how i planned it.
Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere, couldn't find with browsing and searching for a good while.
Im on N9005 and 4.4.2
Thanks for all help!
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Towelroot doesn´t trip Knox but don´t forget that custom ROM or recovery trip know to 0x1.
Don´t use any ROM managers etc. It make a lot of problems with phone

verny94 said:
Towelroot doesn´t trip Knox but don´t forget that custom ROM or recovery trip know to 0x1.
Don´t use any ROM managers etc. It make a lot of problems with phone
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Yeah i am aware of that, btw does it matter if im using Odin v. 1.85? Does it have to be 3.x or so?
Edit: Sry the Odin i have is Odin3 v.1.85

[Q] n00b Questions

Hi guys,
Noob question: In custom rom installation steps, they say, must be on 4.4.2 with 4.4.2 bootloader.
What is this 4.4.2 bootloader? What do I have to do to get it? I don't want to screw something up.
I am on stock 4.4.2, with stock recovery, rooted with towelroot. I've installed xposed framework and several modules. I am thinking of moving to a custom kernel (or a custom rom if i have to, anything for more battery life). I have an SM-9005.
More noob questions, please excuse me:
To install cwm recovery (for flashing other kernels), I'll just flash a cwm zip from odin. This will work right? I saw this on Max Lee's site galaxynote3root.
When I reboot to stock recovery, there is an android lying down in the middle of the screen with a red exclamation mark on its tummy. Under it, is written 'No command.' . When i reboot, the text changes to 'Error!', and it boots normally. What in the world is this?
If I succeed in installing cwm recovery, will I be able to flash roms and kernels normally?
I'm new to this phone and new to xda, not so new to android.
Thanks.

If you flash custom recovery your Knox counter will be 0x1 = lost warranty for motherboard.
For flash recovery via Odin you need CWM.tar or CWM.tar.md5 and after this flash you can flash custom kernel.

Jackhamma_k said:
Hi guys,
Noob question: In custom rom installation steps, they say, must be on 4.4.2 with 4.4.2 bootloader.
What is this 4.4.2 bootloader? What do I have to do to get it? I don't want to screw something up.
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Install Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app, scroll down to 'FIRMWARE INFO' section to see what is your Bootloader version?

Bootloader version: N9005XXUEND3

END3 is also 4.4.2
However it is not the latest one.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

vndnguyen said:
END3 is also 4.4.2
However it is not the latest one.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
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How do I get the latest one?
BTW, I took a leap of faith and flashed a cwm kernel.
Thanks.

Jackhamma_k said:
How do I get the latest one?
BTW, I took a leap of faith and flashed a cwm kernel.
Thanks.
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Open 'Phone INFO ★Samsung★' app, press Menu --> 'Firmware Browser', you will get the latest firmware for your device.