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nexus 7 with ics and no apps

Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt

Strange maybe they sent you a test device on accident. I'd just flash the stock software that Google released.
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Mattuhh said:
Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt
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They might have shipped a pre-production model by mistake, or something similar.
If you're used to rooting Android, you can grab the stock images here: http://goo.gl/p0W2s. Otherwise, just bring it to wherever you bought it and get a replacement.

There are factory images for the device available from Google that can return you to a shipping Jelly Bean build. See here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
It's a fairly simple process, but it does require some basic setup on your desktop computer. You'll need the ability to use fastboot. If you're not up for that the easiest thing to do would be to just exchange the unit.
Edit - identical advice as above. Great minds think alike

Thanks for the replies, I'll have to try and flash the firmware when I get home tomorrow.
I'll let you know if I bork it up

Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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jabsys said:
Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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That would be nice if it was but I'm guessing hardware wise is probably identical, not sure how I'd check to be honest

We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
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Mattuhh said:
We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
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You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?

bedoig said:
You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?
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that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit

Mattuhh said:
that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit
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Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.

ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html

Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.

Sell it and buy a new one lol

The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?

This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.

Eric_Eric_Eric said:
Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.
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Yeah I am thinking that I'm going to have too, and it's my third Android device, I've got an SGS that's rooted with a custom rom, a Galaxy Note and now this tablet. I've never had problems with messing with software on a device before, but for some reason fastboot just wont play ball on this device
itscro said:
ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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I don't know what you're talking about as this is the first tablet I've ever owned but I think fishy or interesting isn't the word I would use, annoying as hell more like lol
aaronpoweruser said:
dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html
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Haha okay I will do my best, but I'm not particularly good at Android tinkering
zivan56 said:
Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.
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I haven't got a clue to be honest, I was assuming that was what they all were lol
tech_abbz said:
Sell it and buy a new one lol
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Probably going to have too >.<
regalpimpin said:
The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?
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you mean like this? lol
hic9582 said:
This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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yeah it's just my luck to be honest lol
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before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.
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Yeah I will give it a go one day this week, I've had enough of messing with it trying to make it work for now, it's doing my head in haha

I agree, you should (must) dump the ROM and put it up for devs to look at. It's a shame you had your nexus experience marred by thus, but our devs can surely find some interesting things in the ICS build(ironically, this us how the touchpad got android, someone got one that shipped with GB, and the community was lucky enough to get to him before he wiped it).

Oppo Find 5 Now in India

Oppo mobiles have finally launched the Oppo Find 5 in India. Hope we get some Indian support for the Oppo Find 5 here at XDA developers.
The Oppo Find 5 that is to be launched in India will have the same specifications as the one launched worldwide.
Opp Find 5 Price in India
Oppo Find 5 Specifications

here is the link to buy ,I think they even provide cod as payment option
http://oppo.androidguruz.com/index.php?route=common/home

mathen said:
here is the link to buy ,I think they even provide cod as payment option
http://oppo.androidguruz.com/index.php?route=common/home
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The site seems sketchy and doesn't even have a proper contact us link. However , if cash on delivery option is available, then it might be fine, I guess?
But the site seems to have simply copied lots of elements from oppostyle.com?

Hrithan2020 said:
The site seems sketchy and doesn't even have a proper contact us link. However , if cash on delivery option is available, then it might be fine, I guess?
But the site seems to have simply copied lots of elements from oppostyle.com?
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site seems like a quick setup to start sales,anyway if we buy using cod,we are safe.But service will be an issue,i think.
they have a facebook page too
http://www.facebook.com/Androidguruz

mathen said:
site seems like a quick setup to start sales,anyway if we buy using cod,we are safe.But service will be an issue,i think.
they have a facebook page too
http://www.facebook.com/Androidguruz
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Yeah , I was just reading about the Androidguruz. Seems to be a startup which will offer retail and services for around 42 china brands, in which case, we can hopefully get some service as well. But too early to say. I would say there is definitely a risk. [regarding repairs]
http://www.gogi.in/androidguruz-exclusive-retailer.html

there are lots of adverse comments on their fb page

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there are lots of adverse comments on their fb page
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Related to their service? Wasn't able to find it. But, yeah the site design is crappy with no option to select the memory for the find 5 white version.
EDIT: So, apparently, they still have not started selling the phone. The white version not able to add to cart because memory option not available and for the midnight black version, it is saying currently not in stock. But, the shipping rate seems to be an amazing Rs 5, so seems really good overall, if it does turn out to have 3 months replacement warranty..
Anyway, lets update here, if any one of us finds anything new. I am very much interested in getting the phone, but may go for nexus 4 again if a 32gb version is announced.

I never thought this day would come where I would part so easily with my Nexus 4. Even with the announcement of the Galaxy S4 and the HTC One I didn’t care too much about those devices. I love pure Android and how clean it runs. But there was something about the Oppo Find 5 that attracted me so much. Maybe it’s the fact that Oppo is doing something different and really trying to make software for the consumers and not something gimmicky. I’ve never been a fan of Android skins like Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz, but Oppo isn’t just another skin, It’s more like a custom ROM on steroids. The reason I say this is because as of now they are the only Android phone manufacturer that update their firmware twice a month with features requested by the users. Let’s face it, update’s matter. When you ask people why they buy a Nexus device one of the top 3 reasons is “It get’s updates”. Similar to how Cyanogenmod implements features, Oppo does the same and since it’s GPL Compliant, with its kernel source code released. This means developers from all over the world can work together and make the Find 5 even better. :good:

They are still building up their site.
Same replies you see from UMI X2 people.
Let's wait for a week or so
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haxor said:
I never thought this day would come where I would part so easily with my Nexus 4. Even with the announcement of the Galaxy S4 and the HTC One I didn’t care too much about those devices. I love pure Android and how clean it runs. But there was something about the Oppo Find 5 that attracted me so much. Maybe it’s the fact that Oppo is doing something different and really trying to make software for the consumers and not something gimmicky. I’ve never been a fan of Android skins like Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz, but Oppo isn’t just another skin, It’s more like a custom ROM on steroids. The reason I say this is because as of now they are the only Android phone manufacturer that update their firmware twice a month with features requested by the users. Let’s face it, update’s matter. When you ask people why they buy a Nexus device one of the top 3 reasons is “It get’s updates”. Similar to how Cyanogenmod implements features, Oppo does the same and since it’s GPL Compliant, with its kernel source code released. This means developers from all over the world can work together and make the Find 5 even better. :good:
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Oh my god! You sound so much like Armando Ferreira
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By the way, does this phone come with a SD card slot?

ImSherlocked said:
Oh my god! You sound so much like Armando Ferreira
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By the way, does this phone come with a SD card slot?
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Opps Same to same No Card Slot just like Nexus !

Is it available on the local market yet?

Take a look at this guys. Think it ain't coming officially after all.
http://igyaan.in/2013/05/47695/oppo-will-not-officially-launch-the-find-5-in-india/
If I buy from oppostyle.com, will I be able to claim warrant at least by sending it back to them??
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killmastern3 said:
Take a look at this guys. Think it ain't coming officially after all.
http://igyaan.in/2013/05/47695/oppo-will-not-officially-launch-the-find-5-in-india/
If I buy from oppostyle.com, will I be able to claim warrant at least by sending it back to them??
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Oh well. Anyway got nexus 4 again, so won't be joining the oppo crowd.sounds too much of a risk to buy it without warranty when you have nexus 4 launching in India at a lower price than this.( yes screen is better, others however I don't think there is a huge difference)
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Anybody from India who has bought through oppostyle.com? If yes, how was your experience?
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I got the OPPO Find 5 from oppostyle in India. The experience overall with oppostyle was good.. I ordered on first of may and it reached me in 8 days with custom clearance taking 4 days.
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tantrik said:
I got the OPPO Find 5 from oppostyle in India. The experience overall with oppostyle was good.. I ordered on first of may and it reached me in 8 days with custom clearance taking 4 days.
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Did u pay any customs fee ?
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tantrik said:
I got the OPPO Find 5 from oppostyle in India. The experience overall with oppostyle was good.. I ordered on first of may and it reached me in 8 days with custom clearance taking 4 days.
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How much custom fee did you pay? What was the total amount that you paid?
Also anyone know about the warranty? How will we claim it?

I paid 1049/- in custom fees.
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tantrik said:
I paid 1049/- in custom fees.
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What is the total amount that you paid? Did you ask them to write a lower price (for lower custom rate?)
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No Google Wallet App?

Anyone know why Google removed Wallet for the (2nd Gen) Nexus 7? It existed on all other Nexus devices since the Galaxy Nexus. Even my Nexus 10 has it...

KMyers said:
Anyone know why Google removed Wallet for the (2nd Gen) Nexus 7? It existed on all other Nexus devices since the Galaxy Nexus. Even my Nexus 10 has it...
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It's not compatible with 4.3 yet. It happens all the time when new builds come out. It'll be back.
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arcanexvi said:
It's not compatible with 4.3 yet. It happens all the time when new builds come out. It'll be back.
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It seems to work on my First Gen Nexus 7 (running 4.3). I used it this morning to buy a coffee.

KMyers said:
It seems to work on my First Gen Nexus 7 (running 4.3). I used it this morning to buy a coffee.
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It's probably not tested yet
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arcanexvi said:
It's probably not tested yet
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PEOPLE ! Remember, this things not even officially launched by Google yet!!!

kpa2727 said:
PEOPLE ! Remember, this things not even officially launched by Google yet!!!
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Which is why I said just wait it'll be back.
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Just side load it. Its how I get it to work half the time anyway.
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player911 said:
Just side load it. Its how I get it to work half the time anyway.
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Didn't work for me
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Well... its official... The 2nd Generation Nexus 7 DOES NOT have a Secure Element so Google Wallet will NEVER work on it.
I do understand that Wallet was not the most widely used tool but for those who have become reliant on Wallet, this news sucks.
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Wallet is NOT compatible with and NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE with the Nexus 7 2013 because it is lacking some secure element.
Director of Product Management for Google Wallet Peter Hazlehurst confirmed it to Android Police. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/#comment-978606008

LordLugard said:
Wallet is NOT compatible with and NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE with the Nexus 7 2013 because it is lacking some secure element.
Director of Product Management for Google Wallet Peter Hazlehurst confirmed it to Android Police. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/#comment-978606008
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yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board

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yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board
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Well the post specifically stated the Google Edition of the HTC One, which that plus the capability of LTE for the new N7 leads me to believe this was not Google's choice. This sounds like a slam to the face from the US carriers to force ISIS in order to use the devices on their networks. Why else would this feature not exist in a newly capable LTE device when it was present in the previous generation device?
Man I hate the US cellular companies. Forcing their agendas and profits on device manufacturers.
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RCDuke said:
Well the post specifically stated the Google Edition of the HTC One, which that plus the capability of LTE for the new N7 leads me to believe this was not Google's choice. This sounds like a slam to the face from the US carriers to force ISIS in order to use the devices on their networks. Why else would this feature not exist in a newly capable LTE device when it was present in the previous generation device?
Man I hate the US cellular companies. Forcing their agendas and profits on device manufacturers.
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see i would go with that thought but for all of us with the wifi model that would mean we are out of luck completly, not having an option for a sim at all.....so idk

NyPlaya513 said:
yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board
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Nothing fishy about anything. Whether you're "pretty sure" about anything is not the point. I'd rather take the word of the Director of Product Management. And besides the reason being given is that the Nexus 7 2013 is missing a secure element, which might have been omitted due to a myriad of reasons (cost, maybe?). We wait and see if more info develops.

Delete
Dupe.

I remember reading recently about a compromise of the secure element chip used in the vast majority of commercial electronics and how this was bad because there was essentially only one vendor. I'll see if I can find the link when I get home.
Maybe this had something to do with the decision? Or maybe someone decided in their infinite wisdom that a 7" device is simply awkward to use to pay?
I use wallet on my N4 all the time but only once on my N7 (2012)...
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Isis SIM
So the N7v2 has NFC but no secure element. According to the press information for ISIS, the ISIS carrier SIMs include a secure element. So would it be possible to use ISIS on a N7v2?

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So the N7v2 has NFC but no secure element. According to the press information for ISIS, the ISIS carrier SIMs include a secure element. So would it be possible to use ISIS on a N7v2?
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you can install it, and if you have the option to change tap and pay settings, that means it will work. No option, then no, its not available.

Droid MAXX Developer Edition

This just in: www(dot)androidpolice(dot)com/2013/09/18/motorola-releases-droid-maxx-verizon-only-and-moto-x-gsm-and-verizon-developer-editions-for-649-99/
Same goes for Moto X for GSM and Verizon versions as well.

Do the dev editions already have system write ability?
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From what I've read they have unlockable bootloaders....not too sure what the difference will be between the Dev edition and consumer edition..
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No Verizon bloatware for starters. I want to know if root apps will work without modification.
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bwheelies said:
No Verizon bloatware for starters. I want to know if root apps will work without modification.
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Why would they? That would be stupid, you would have to unlock the boot loader as mentioned.

It is called a question, genius.
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No Verizon bloatware for starters. I want to know if root apps will work without modification.
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I'm not sure if it won't have Verizon bloatware since it's only getting released on Verizon. The GSM Moto X Developer Edition definitely won't have Verizon bloatware.

The Dev edition will be identical to the regular phone the only difference is that you can unlock the boot loader. It will have the same bloat we have a Google play edition would be vanilla android.

This really makes me mad. I feel like I am punished for buying early. :crying:

Anyone want to buy a consumer edition for $600?
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The Dev edition will be identical to the regular phone the only difference is that you can unlock the boot loader. It will have the same bloat we have a Google play edition would be vanilla android.
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This is exactly correct.
Developer editions are IDENTICAL to the retail versions of the devices with the only exception that the bootloaders are unlocked. All bloat will still be there and it will still be the lightly skinned version of android that we're used to.
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ubermetroid said:
This really makes me mad. I feel like I am punished for buying early. :crying:
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My 14 day return window expired 1 day before they announced the developer edition (and I researched ahead of time - everybody thought they would do a Moto X dev edition, but nobody was thinking they'd do a Droid Maxx developer edition). I'm not that upset though because we have root now and that's what I really needed. Beyond root I'm not so sure custom ROMs would be as desirable since we can't exactly expect Cyanogenmod to support all the unique features of the Maxx.

The only reason I want the DE is for custom kernels.
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So... is it worth getting a DE phone? Or is it more useful for people who actually do Android Development. I'd like to be able to unlock and root... but not sure if its worth the cash.

ubermetroid said:
This really makes me mad. I feel like I am punished for buying early. :crying:
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I'm totally with you there. Damn Verizon.
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DevsAdvocate said:
So... is it worth getting a DE phone? Or is it more useful for people who actually do Android Development. I'd like to be able to unlock and root... but not sure if its worth the cash.
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Depends if you want to change the operating system a lot switching roms I would say go with the dev edition it is better you can load a kernel not use ss and kexec to run roms. If you just want root well we have root and hash is working on ss (very close now) so you can flash roms.if you want. I don't think it is worth spending 650.00 for the phone vs.299.00 its more than double the price and you cant subsidize it as far as I know it is a straight purchase I believe. I doubt I will flash to many roms anyway this o.s runs great and I can customize it with xposed so my phone looks like it is running a custom rom, with out the bugs. My bioinic was so laggy when ever I ran a rom the only ones that ran right were based of the stock build and kernel. So why bother like I said xposed makes it so any dummy can create a custom looking rom in 5 min. Granted you wont get all the bells and whistles but I never used all the pie holo stuff anyway.

Well I found a buyer for my (locked) Droid MAXX and I ordered the Developer Edition yesterday. Hasn't shipped yet.

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It'll be all worth it in the end when you're holding one of these
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Couldn't some dev out there figure a way to implant whats on the dev version to a consumer version? Is it not software that they would be dealing with? Or it also hardware based?

StankFiss said:
Couldn't some dev out there figure a way to implant whats on the dev version to a consumer version? Is it not software that they would be dealing with? Or it also hardware based?
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The fun stuff (kernels, system updates, etc., for example) are blocked in a signed bootloader unless the updates are signed with Motorola's private key. The bootloader will not allow the update to flash unless it is signed with the private key that matches the bootloader's public key, which only Motorola has. The unlocked bootloader simply removes the requirement that updates must be signed. Having an unlocked phone gives you no way to determine the private key.
See http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ncryption-signing-and-locking-let-me-explain/

Firmware update for Note 4 due this week

I'm working with Gear VR and had reason to ask the right questions to my contact at Samsung and here's what he had to say today about a firmware update that I need for development (but everyone will get), "I'm hearing the Verizon update is supposed to be available in the next few days or so"
Just thought I'd share since it's rare we have reliable, official announcement before the OTA's flow. To be clear, I don't know if this update will be Android L. I DO know that it will have the bits needed to support Gear VR on retail devices.
He's also working on getting me the ROM sooner, but I'm not sure if I will be allowed to distribute. Maybe others will be getting it early for the same reasons though so if you want a decent reason to hope....

rainabba said:
I'm working with Gear VR and had reason to ask the right questions to my contact at Samsung and here's what he had to say today about a firmware update that I need for development (but everyone will get), "I'm hearing the Verizon update is supposed to be available in the next few days or so"
Just thought I'd share since it's rare we have reliable, official announcement before the OTA's flow. To be clear, I don't know if this update will be Android L. I DO know that it will have the bits needed to support Gear VR on retail devices.
He's also working on getting me the ROM sooner, but I'm not sure if I will be allowed to distribute. Maybe others will be getting it early for the same reasons though so if you want a decent reason to hope....
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everyone here is more than likely to reject such update

masri1987 said:
everyone here is more than likely to reject such update
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Oh? Tell me more

Just say no to updates!

You might as well take the update we have a better chance of root with 5.0 according to chainfire
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mmw68666 said:
You might as well take the update we have a better chance of root with 5.0 according to chainfire
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I agree. We are unrooted and locked; what does it matter.

mmw68666 said:
You might as well take the update we have a better chance of root with 5.0 according to chainfire
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Why's that? Because it's new?

AT&T note 4 got an OTA update today...

What did the AT&T update consist of? Minor stuff or Android L?
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If I'm not mistaken, HD voice something and bloatware.

SOTK said:
What did the AT&T update consist of? Minor stuff or Android L?
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http://www.droid-life.com/2014/12/0...ote-4-brings-hd-voice-and-a-bit-of-bloatware/

Thanks. I hate updates like that. I hope that whatever we get from Verizon is different but I have a funny feeling we will be getting a useless update as well.
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Guy in the droid life site commented that after the update on his AT&T note 4 update, the recents button was faster and more responsive. I hope it's really true and us Verizon users see the same improvement. That lag is the biggest gripe I have with this phone right now. Yeah, it's that good of a phone!

tu3218 said:
Guy in the droid life site commented that after the update on his AT&T note 4 update, the recents button was faster and more responsive. I hope it's really true and us Verizon users see the same improvement. That lag is the biggest gripe I have with this phone right now. Yeah, it's that good of a phone!
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Only lag I have is the recent apps cap. Takes a second or two sometimes to load up my list of recent apps. Not sure if this is related with ART though. Any thoughts?

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What did the AT&T update consist of? Minor stuff or Android L?
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We WILL get Gear VR support ( the whole point of this thread). Beyond that, I can't say and don't care much. If I was fixed on root or L, I wouldn't be running the Note 4 given how good Samsung is getting at locking the boot loader. In fact, If not for my VR development, I might have purchased my first Nexus device despite the lack of SD (or grabbed the G3).
By the way, why are people still spamming with "sent from my weAlreadyKnowAndDontCare using irrelevantAndAnnoyingApp"? That's so Outlook 2000

rainabba said:
We WILL get Gear VR support ( the whole point of this thread). Beyond that, I can't say and don't care much. If I was fixed on root or L, I wouldn't be running the Note 4 given how good Samsung is getting at locking the boot loader. In fact, If not for my VR development, I might have purchased my first Nexus device despite the lack of SD (or grabbed the G3).
By the way, why are people still spamming with "sent from my weAlreadyKnowAndDontCare using irrelevantAndAnnoyingApp"? That's so Outlook 2000
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This is the first Android phone for me where I am not terribly concerned if I don't get an unlocked bootloader. Root would be nice but it's not a deal breaker for me. I am looking forward to Android L on this phone.
As for my Tapatalk signature, I rarely post in forums so I forgot the signature was even there! I more or less read forums these days.
Thanks for posting the information!
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Is this OTA really worth taking seeing as we seem not to be close to attaining root?

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Only lag I have is the recent apps cap. Takes a second or two sometimes to load up my list of recent apps. Not sure if this is related with ART though. Any thoughts?
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Yeah that's the only lag for me as well. I'm not running on ART and I have it so I think it doesn't matter there. Just need a software update to fix that issue then this phone will be perfect!

tu3218 said:
Yeah that's the only lag for me as well. I'm not running on ART and I have it so I think it doesn't matter there. Just need a software update to fix that issue then this phone will be perfect!
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Agreed. Switched back to JIT Dalvik and it Was still persistant. Hopefully this update will tweak a lot of things.

It's Friday. I wish there will be something during the weekend. Really want the HD calling