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nexus 7 with ics and no apps

Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt

Strange maybe they sent you a test device on accident. I'd just flash the stock software that Google released.
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Mattuhh said:
Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt
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They might have shipped a pre-production model by mistake, or something similar.
If you're used to rooting Android, you can grab the stock images here: http://goo.gl/p0W2s. Otherwise, just bring it to wherever you bought it and get a replacement.

There are factory images for the device available from Google that can return you to a shipping Jelly Bean build. See here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
It's a fairly simple process, but it does require some basic setup on your desktop computer. You'll need the ability to use fastboot. If you're not up for that the easiest thing to do would be to just exchange the unit.
Edit - identical advice as above. Great minds think alike

Thanks for the replies, I'll have to try and flash the firmware when I get home tomorrow.
I'll let you know if I bork it up

Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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jabsys said:
Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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That would be nice if it was but I'm guessing hardware wise is probably identical, not sure how I'd check to be honest

We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
About tablet
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Development options
all the installed apps
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Mattuhh said:
We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
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You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?

bedoig said:
You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?
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that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit

Mattuhh said:
that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit
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Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.

ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html

Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.

Sell it and buy a new one lol

The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?

This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.

Eric_Eric_Eric said:
Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.
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Yeah I am thinking that I'm going to have too, and it's my third Android device, I've got an SGS that's rooted with a custom rom, a Galaxy Note and now this tablet. I've never had problems with messing with software on a device before, but for some reason fastboot just wont play ball on this device
itscro said:
ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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I don't know what you're talking about as this is the first tablet I've ever owned but I think fishy or interesting isn't the word I would use, annoying as hell more like lol
aaronpoweruser said:
dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html
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Haha okay I will do my best, but I'm not particularly good at Android tinkering
zivan56 said:
Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.
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I haven't got a clue to be honest, I was assuming that was what they all were lol
tech_abbz said:
Sell it and buy a new one lol
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Probably going to have too >.<
regalpimpin said:
The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?
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you mean like this? lol
hic9582 said:
This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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yeah it's just my luck to be honest lol
drvsbsm said:
before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.
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Yeah I will give it a go one day this week, I've had enough of messing with it trying to make it work for now, it's doing my head in haha

I agree, you should (must) dump the ROM and put it up for devs to look at. It's a shame you had your nexus experience marred by thus, but our devs can surely find some interesting things in the ICS build(ironically, this us how the touchpad got android, someone got one that shipped with GB, and the community was lucky enough to get to him before he wiped it).

No Google Wallet App?

Anyone know why Google removed Wallet for the (2nd Gen) Nexus 7? It existed on all other Nexus devices since the Galaxy Nexus. Even my Nexus 10 has it...

KMyers said:
Anyone know why Google removed Wallet for the (2nd Gen) Nexus 7? It existed on all other Nexus devices since the Galaxy Nexus. Even my Nexus 10 has it...
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It's not compatible with 4.3 yet. It happens all the time when new builds come out. It'll be back.
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arcanexvi said:
It's not compatible with 4.3 yet. It happens all the time when new builds come out. It'll be back.
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It seems to work on my First Gen Nexus 7 (running 4.3). I used it this morning to buy a coffee.

KMyers said:
It seems to work on my First Gen Nexus 7 (running 4.3). I used it this morning to buy a coffee.
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It's probably not tested yet
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arcanexvi said:
It's probably not tested yet
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PEOPLE ! Remember, this things not even officially launched by Google yet!!!

kpa2727 said:
PEOPLE ! Remember, this things not even officially launched by Google yet!!!
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Which is why I said just wait it'll be back.
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Just side load it. Its how I get it to work half the time anyway.
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player911 said:
Just side load it. Its how I get it to work half the time anyway.
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Didn't work for me
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Well... its official... The 2nd Generation Nexus 7 DOES NOT have a Secure Element so Google Wallet will NEVER work on it.
I do understand that Wallet was not the most widely used tool but for those who have become reliant on Wallet, this news sucks.
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Wallet is NOT compatible with and NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE with the Nexus 7 2013 because it is lacking some secure element.
Director of Product Management for Google Wallet Peter Hazlehurst confirmed it to Android Police. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/#comment-978606008

LordLugard said:
Wallet is NOT compatible with and NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE with the Nexus 7 2013 because it is lacking some secure element.
Director of Product Management for Google Wallet Peter Hazlehurst confirmed it to Android Police. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ible-with-the-2013-nexus-7/#comment-978606008
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yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board

NyPlaya513 said:
yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board
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Well the post specifically stated the Google Edition of the HTC One, which that plus the capability of LTE for the new N7 leads me to believe this was not Google's choice. This sounds like a slam to the face from the US carriers to force ISIS in order to use the devices on their networks. Why else would this feature not exist in a newly capable LTE device when it was present in the previous generation device?
Man I hate the US cellular companies. Forcing their agendas and profits on device manufacturers.
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RCDuke said:
Well the post specifically stated the Google Edition of the HTC One, which that plus the capability of LTE for the new N7 leads me to believe this was not Google's choice. This sounds like a slam to the face from the US carriers to force ISIS in order to use the devices on their networks. Why else would this feature not exist in a newly capable LTE device when it was present in the previous generation device?
Man I hate the US cellular companies. Forcing their agendas and profits on device manufacturers.
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see i would go with that thought but for all of us with the wifi model that would mean we are out of luck completly, not having an option for a sim at all.....so idk

NyPlaya513 said:
yet it works with the sprint htc one. so this is a bit fishy since other than the antennas (gsm, cdma) i am pretty sure all htc one are the same hardware across the board
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Nothing fishy about anything. Whether you're "pretty sure" about anything is not the point. I'd rather take the word of the Director of Product Management. And besides the reason being given is that the Nexus 7 2013 is missing a secure element, which might have been omitted due to a myriad of reasons (cost, maybe?). We wait and see if more info develops.

Delete
Dupe.

I remember reading recently about a compromise of the secure element chip used in the vast majority of commercial electronics and how this was bad because there was essentially only one vendor. I'll see if I can find the link when I get home.
Maybe this had something to do with the decision? Or maybe someone decided in their infinite wisdom that a 7" device is simply awkward to use to pay?
I use wallet on my N4 all the time but only once on my N7 (2012)...
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Isis SIM
So the N7v2 has NFC but no secure element. According to the press information for ISIS, the ISIS carrier SIMs include a secure element. So would it be possible to use ISIS on a N7v2?

TDBearCT said:
So the N7v2 has NFC but no secure element. According to the press information for ISIS, the ISIS carrier SIMs include a secure element. So would it be possible to use ISIS on a N7v2?
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you can install it, and if you have the option to change tap and pay settings, that means it will work. No option, then no, its not available.

Unlocked BL's Future

Looks like S5 will have locked bootloader on T-Mobile..
So that means people on AT&T are screwed because
1. No Dev edition
2. Can't Use T-Mobile edition on AT&T anymore.
Only Sprint S5 will have unlocked bootloader.
In a sense this a good thing because it will bring more devs to the scene from T-Mobile's section and we can finally crack this open.
Source: https://twitter.com/Anthony_J_Fox/status/446759896017420288

I give up on Samsung. My next phone is not Samsung. Im sick of these damn locked bootloaders.

I hear you. Its the carriers that are being dicks. Looks likes Safestrap is going to be mainstream @Hashcode got long hours ahead of him

The only way we can make them listen is not to buy them. Buy an international unlocked edition. But the majority of people have no interest in rooting and roming. I don't blame them due to warranty claims for bricked devices, but they should have something like htc dev where you unlock it you own it unless it's something unrelated to rooting. That is acceptable to me.
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Walter.White said:
I hear you. Its the carriers that are being dicks. Looks likes Safestrap is going to be mainstream @Hashcode got long hours ahead of him
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Safestrap is fine for me. It's a custom recovery as far as I'm concerned. I don't use the extra rom slots, just the stock one so it works for me the same as having an unlocked bootloader. I never usually flashed too many kernels always so that doesn't bother me. We can do backups restores and flash roms. What more could you want?
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Skizzy034 said:
Safestrap is fine for me. It's a custom recovery as far as I'm concerned. I don't use the extra rom slots, just the stock one so it works for me the same as having an unlocked bootloader. I never usually flashed too many kernels always so that doesn't bother me. We can do backups restores and flash roms. What more could you want?
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Battery optimized kernels. (For instance look at teamsek's N3 kernel. ~10 hours of screen on time. On asop, albeit).

Don't just blame att. Blame Samsung for allowing it to happen.
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Intub8 said:
Don't just blame att. Blame Samsung for allowing it to happen.
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Either way it's us who pay the price.

Well I wouldn't even have rooted or installed a custom rom had they released a phone with a broken GPS that they couldn't or wouldn't fix. Ridiculous. Custom rom fixed it.
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Yeah, sucks big time. I guess we need to change from Samsung to another brand, my Note 3 is a beautiful and powerful device the only thing that is keeping the leash is the locked bootloader. I'm considering to go with a Nexus or Sony smartphone, I love how I'm able to do whatever I want with my Nexus 7 2013.

If its similar to the S4, you could also look into the Canadian carriers' S5 and Note 3/4. The i337m (m for Canada and some Latin countries) had an unlocked bootloader. It was the same exact device as AT&T's just with an unlocked bootloader and ever SLOWER official ROM updates.

juanyunis said:
Yeah, sucks big time. I guess we need to change from Samsung to another brand, my Note 3 is a beautiful and powerful device the only thing that is keeping the leash is the locked bootloader. I'm considering to go with a Nexus or Sony smartphone, I love how I'm able to do whatever I want with my Nexus 7 2013.
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Just bought a Nexus 7 2013, unlocked the bootloader loader and rooted, just because! Nexus will need to put out a phone that's at least 5.5". When they do I'm on it! And it could have a crappy camera!
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Yeah, what i love about my note 3 and even my old S4 was the ability to use the ir emitter to control my tv, etc. and well some other cool features like the airview, the s-note, etc.
They should make a dev edition of the phone with multi-carrier support like a (T-mobile/ATT GSM) or a (Verizon/Sprint CDMA) version. In that way they keep the people and devs happy.

I done with Samsung had a cappy,infuse,s3,now n3. I have been looking for a new device for a few months, can not stand the locked bootloader crap.
Nexus devices need bigger screens and better cameras if they fix that I would be happy as a clam.
Till then I will wait for something with a nice screen,camera, and unlocked BL!!!!!!

RUNNERX said:
I done with Samsung had a cappy,infuse,s3,now n3. I have been looking for a new device for a few months, can not stand the locked bootloader crap.
Nexus devices need bigger screens and better cameras if they fix that I would be happy as a clam.
Till then I will wait for something with a nice screen,camera, and unlocked BL!!!!!!
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I wish Carriers here in US were selling Sony's flagship devices.
And also Nokia shoot themselves in foot by going with WP.... If they would've went with Android, they could've been the biggest rival for sammy.

Really what difference does an unlocked boot loader make? I'll gladly trade camera, screen, everything if it means no flashing crap AOKP Roms.
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joe3681 said:
Really what difference does an unlocked boot loader make? I'll gladly trade camera, screen, everything if it means no flashing crap AOKP Roms.
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Allows better optimized kernels (For instance here are some pics from N3 running temasek's kernel)
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I don't think the carriers care about XDAers. We are such a small portion of the end users, but bricked devices from this forum are probably responsible for a significant portion of the returns.
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sndtubes said:
Well I wouldn't even have rooted or installed a custom rom had they released a phone with a broken GPS that they couldn't or wouldn't fix. Ridiculous. Custom rom fixed it.
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The rom absolutely fixed it? I read that some thought it could be a hardware problem.
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I'm alright with it, simply because I use my S pen. And the Samsung camera, other TW apps. If I wanted AOSP I'd get the nexus 5.
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Allows better optimized kernels (For instance here are some pics from N3 running temasek's kernel)
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Not too impressive, I've seen people here hit close to that on stock unrooted. I've gone 2.5 days with 8 hours screen time, so custom kernel doesn't seem to make that much of a difference here.
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Gauging Interest in 4.4.4 Port for T-Mobile Users

Purpose of this thread is to gauge interest in a port of TMobile and ATT moto x software. This should address the infamous LTE bug found in our devices

Interested

Although the offer is very tempting but I think active notifications are better than LTE but then again, I get my phone me tomorrow to start using it on AT&T.
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Although the offer is very tempting but I think active notifications are better than LTE but then again, I get my phone me tomorrow to start using it on AT&T.
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Well I wont be able to say for sure about active until their updates are released. You'll see very quickly that the LTE bug is very annoying.

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Well I wont be able to say for sure about active until their updates are released. You'll see very quickly that the LTE bug is very annoying.
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From what everyone said, you can just disable LTE and use HSPA+, right? I know HSPA+ in DFW maxes out at a little under 10Mbps I think and I'm wondering if that would be enough. I haven't done any Roms on my moto x so I'm not sure what all is required for active display. Does it have to do with kernel and rom difference?
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Definitely interested

i think the active display fault is something you change, because the last time i flashed moto x build, everything worked, no offense...
something you flash for the physical buttons to work screws up active notifications...

Jaocagomez said:
i think the active display fault is something you change, because the last time i flashed moto x build, everything worked, no offense...
something you flash for the physical buttons to work screws up active notifications...
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That's really odd because even in pure stock form it didnt work for me.

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i think the active display fault is something you change, because the last time i flashed moto x build, everything worked, no offense...
something you flash for the physical buttons to work screws up active notifications...
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You sir are a genious! Found the problem. Addressed and display is working once again! New build compiled and being uploaded as we speak!
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This will allow those with unlocked BLs to run full T-Mobile firmware on their max and effectively eliminate the LTE handoff issues.

New 4.4.3 Build Released. Includes the google dialer!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783370

Debating on applying the changes from the new build to the 4.4.2 port. This would effectively eliminate the active display bug for that port and it will still be based of VZW firmware vice the 4.4.3 being based off T-Mobile. This would eliminate the need for VZW users to change the modem selection on boot while having the new dialer and whatever else we missed in our update. What do you think @bigv5150 and @Caseyk621 interested?

I'm on att, so no LTE for me. Any benefit to running moto x firmware over Verizon? Phone is pretty smooth and I'm pretty happy with it as is, seems like a lot of work to get the better dialer. Maybe there's an easier way? I bet running moto x software will be useful when they get L and we're stuck on kit Kat

xxBrun0xx said:
I'm on att, so no LTE for me. Any benefit to running moto x firmware over Verizon? Phone is pretty smooth and I'm pretty happy with it as is, seems like a lot of work to get the better dialer. Maybe there's an easier way? I bet running moto x software will be useful when they get L and we're stuck on kit Kat
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You can get the dialer on the stock maxx firmware but you will have two and IIRC it will default to the maxx dialer when actually using the phone.
The major advantage is for T-Mobile users. This fixes a crucial LTE to Voice handoff issue for them.
other than that, its just little odds and ends.
Why don't you get LTE on att? They run a different band?

I thought AT&T had band 4 LTE in some areas? From what I've heard or read, T-Mobile LTE works out of the box since they use the same band as Verizon or something but AT&T only uses it in some places. Not sure on the details but if my area has LTE that works, I may have to try this ROM out. Not sure on Maxx dialer vs yours but it seems like you've got it all figured out and worked out all the quirks. Thanks for sharing your work. I just hope I can get the bootloader unlocked on mine or maybe it will work great OOTB. We will see this weekend.
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Topsnake said:
You sir are a genious! Found the problem. Addressed and display is working once again! New build compiled and being uploaded as we speak!
This will allow those with unlocked BLs to run full T-Mobile firmware on their max and effectively eliminate the LTE handoff issues.
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i've told you! i saw that before, i played with moto x firmware and never had and issue and i noticed the first time i used your rom that once you flashed the keymap remap something was off, glad you fixed it, happy flashing!

Topsnake said:
Debating on applying the changes from the new build to the 4.4.2 port. This would effectively eliminate the active display bug for that port and it will still be based of VZW firmware vice the 4.4.3 being based off T-Mobile. This would eliminate the need for VZW users to change the modem selection on boot while having the new dialer and whatever else we missed in our update. What do you think @bigv5150 and @Caseyk621 interested?
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Wait.. What are you trying to peddle here? I'm confused.. Lol
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Caseyk621 said:
Wait.. What are you trying to peddle here? I'm confused.. Lol
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Basically when the 4.4.4 for vzw moto x comes out should i port that over? That will yield the google dialer etc instead of us having to retro to the maxx firmware

Caseyk621 said:
Wait.. What are you trying to peddle here? I'm confused.. Lol
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Basically when the 4.4.4 for vzw moto x comes out should i port that over? That will yield the google dialer etc instead of us having to retro to the maxx firmware

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Basically when the 4.4.4 for vzw moto x comes out should i port that over? That will yield the google dialer etc instead of us having to retro to the maxx firmware
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I'd be interested once I get the bootloader unlocked. That will be a pain lol
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I have the google dialer now the only time it reverts to stock is when I make the call. The search function works so does caller ID. Plus with the 4.4.4 update there is no longer a need for an activity launcher the blue phone icon is placed in the app drawer. Here are the apps email you just install like any other apk the google dialer has to be flashed. After flashing just use it nothing else to do. So install them check it out and tell me if you think it is worth your time. I think not the other ports were so we could go up an OS not stay the same. Also the google dialer will update just like any other app I'm not sure if it was through play store or aptood ccan't remember. But there is an update available after you flash this one.
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Firmware update for Note 4 due this week

I'm working with Gear VR and had reason to ask the right questions to my contact at Samsung and here's what he had to say today about a firmware update that I need for development (but everyone will get), "I'm hearing the Verizon update is supposed to be available in the next few days or so"
Just thought I'd share since it's rare we have reliable, official announcement before the OTA's flow. To be clear, I don't know if this update will be Android L. I DO know that it will have the bits needed to support Gear VR on retail devices.
He's also working on getting me the ROM sooner, but I'm not sure if I will be allowed to distribute. Maybe others will be getting it early for the same reasons though so if you want a decent reason to hope....

rainabba said:
I'm working with Gear VR and had reason to ask the right questions to my contact at Samsung and here's what he had to say today about a firmware update that I need for development (but everyone will get), "I'm hearing the Verizon update is supposed to be available in the next few days or so"
Just thought I'd share since it's rare we have reliable, official announcement before the OTA's flow. To be clear, I don't know if this update will be Android L. I DO know that it will have the bits needed to support Gear VR on retail devices.
He's also working on getting me the ROM sooner, but I'm not sure if I will be allowed to distribute. Maybe others will be getting it early for the same reasons though so if you want a decent reason to hope....
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everyone here is more than likely to reject such update

masri1987 said:
everyone here is more than likely to reject such update
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Oh? Tell me more

Just say no to updates!

You might as well take the update we have a better chance of root with 5.0 according to chainfire
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mmw68666 said:
You might as well take the update we have a better chance of root with 5.0 according to chainfire
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I agree. We are unrooted and locked; what does it matter.

mmw68666 said:
You might as well take the update we have a better chance of root with 5.0 according to chainfire
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Why's that? Because it's new?

AT&T note 4 got an OTA update today...

What did the AT&T update consist of? Minor stuff or Android L?
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If I'm not mistaken, HD voice something and bloatware.

SOTK said:
What did the AT&T update consist of? Minor stuff or Android L?
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http://www.droid-life.com/2014/12/0...ote-4-brings-hd-voice-and-a-bit-of-bloatware/

Thanks. I hate updates like that. I hope that whatever we get from Verizon is different but I have a funny feeling we will be getting a useless update as well.
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Guy in the droid life site commented that after the update on his AT&T note 4 update, the recents button was faster and more responsive. I hope it's really true and us Verizon users see the same improvement. That lag is the biggest gripe I have with this phone right now. Yeah, it's that good of a phone!

tu3218 said:
Guy in the droid life site commented that after the update on his AT&T note 4 update, the recents button was faster and more responsive. I hope it's really true and us Verizon users see the same improvement. That lag is the biggest gripe I have with this phone right now. Yeah, it's that good of a phone!
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Only lag I have is the recent apps cap. Takes a second or two sometimes to load up my list of recent apps. Not sure if this is related with ART though. Any thoughts?

SOTK said:
What did the AT&T update consist of? Minor stuff or Android L?
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We WILL get Gear VR support ( the whole point of this thread). Beyond that, I can't say and don't care much. If I was fixed on root or L, I wouldn't be running the Note 4 given how good Samsung is getting at locking the boot loader. In fact, If not for my VR development, I might have purchased my first Nexus device despite the lack of SD (or grabbed the G3).
By the way, why are people still spamming with "sent from my weAlreadyKnowAndDontCare using irrelevantAndAnnoyingApp"? That's so Outlook 2000

rainabba said:
We WILL get Gear VR support ( the whole point of this thread). Beyond that, I can't say and don't care much. If I was fixed on root or L, I wouldn't be running the Note 4 given how good Samsung is getting at locking the boot loader. In fact, If not for my VR development, I might have purchased my first Nexus device despite the lack of SD (or grabbed the G3).
By the way, why are people still spamming with "sent from my weAlreadyKnowAndDontCare using irrelevantAndAnnoyingApp"? That's so Outlook 2000
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This is the first Android phone for me where I am not terribly concerned if I don't get an unlocked bootloader. Root would be nice but it's not a deal breaker for me. I am looking forward to Android L on this phone.
As for my Tapatalk signature, I rarely post in forums so I forgot the signature was even there! I more or less read forums these days.
Thanks for posting the information!
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Is this OTA really worth taking seeing as we seem not to be close to attaining root?

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Only lag I have is the recent apps cap. Takes a second or two sometimes to load up my list of recent apps. Not sure if this is related with ART though. Any thoughts?
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Yeah that's the only lag for me as well. I'm not running on ART and I have it so I think it doesn't matter there. Just need a software update to fix that issue then this phone will be perfect!

tu3218 said:
Yeah that's the only lag for me as well. I'm not running on ART and I have it so I think it doesn't matter there. Just need a software update to fix that issue then this phone will be perfect!
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Agreed. Switched back to JIT Dalvik and it Was still persistant. Hopefully this update will tweak a lot of things.

It's Friday. I wish there will be something during the weekend. Really want the HD calling