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Is removing bloatware necessary

Guys I just factory reset my note 10.1 2014...it was very laggy after reset but within minutes of usage it became extremely fast...no need to root and remove any bloatware .even s note app became fast and writing is very responsive...although reseting was a pain in ass..backing up bla bla....but it really is worthy....I just removed widgets from my home screen...there is no need to install any third party launcher...touchwiz itself is very responsive now..hope it help you guys..trust me..it really works...I m on mk1
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I mainly rooted because you can use multi screen and the pen window with any app and as many apps as you like. Also bloat ware takes space so nice to free up the space if I don't use it
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I think when people say removing bloat speeds up their systems is the just the placebo effect. In most cases bloatware has no impact on performance, where is does, it can be disabled. An example is this is Story Album, which can run in background trying to put together an album. But if you disable the app, it doesn't do that. Removing bloatware also doesn't add usable space in most cases since bloatware is typically located in the system partition. Unless you also resize the partition, which users typically even know how to do, the freed up space is still not usable.

Just nice to uni stall apps you never use and never will use
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I also found my magazine used battery and was always using cpu in the background. I froze my magazine and just use the flip board app saving battery and cpu
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No i just disabled some of the features like the eye tracking stuff, didn't actually remove them. Runs buttery smooth for me.

i installed nova launcher and set the window animation / transition / animator duration scales to off - and now i have no lag - i usually root all my android devices with custom rom and kernel but because there are not any for this tablet - i haven't even bothered rooted it - but if you change the launcher and set the scales to off there is no lag at all - and yes disable the eye tracking etc. stuff

Not necessary but recommended, at least turn off what's not really needed.
I've rooted to add more apps to multi window which is a great feature.

I have owned 3 samsung tablets in succesion and everytime I disabled apps it has speed up the device a bit. Not that there was lag before it just felt like new after debloating.

I've actually been on a "no-root November" experiment since the Note 2014 and S4 aren't root-friendly. TBH aside from having Touchwiz I've noticed no real impact.

navjot singh said:
Guys I just factory reset my note 10.1 2014...it was very laggy after reset but within minutes of usage it became extremely fast...no need to root and remove any bloatware .even s note app became fast and writing is very responsive...although reseting was a pain in ass..backing up bla bla....but it really is worthy....I just removed widgets from my home screen...there is no need to install any third party launcher...touchwiz itself is very responsive now..hope it help you guys..trust me..it really works...I m on mk1
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May i ask what your update procedure was?

Some of Samsung's default programs really do suck balls. Their stupid index service caused infinite boot reloops because it takes forever to scan large pdf's. My Magazine has also gone haywire on me many times.
This is all stuff that requires a software update but none has come. Samsung tries to make powerful bloat but the tradeoff is that you get crap like an index service that gets stuck looping and sets your CPU to 100% and bleeds your battery dry in an hour.
Thanks but no thanks. I am waiting until a few months before voiding my warranty (or hopefully not and someone finds a way around knox).

What update procedure are you asking about...I never rooted..I got three updates out of the box..
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Just remove the samsung widgets from the homescreens and it flies.
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I sleep better at night knowing I disabled Knox on my tablet. So it was emotionally necessary for me.
I rooted so I could have virtual buttons and more control over my tablet. I went from wanting to break the tablet in half to loving it because of rooting. No regrets.

it is up to you if u dont use the bloatware u can remove it

G72-8X said:
it is up to you if u dont use the bloatware u can remove it
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But the speed-up effect is mostly a placebo. Also the effect on the battery will be insignificant. At least the data I check on my Note. So, I would say that this is not necessary.
And not everything Samsung put on the device is bloatware.

Elim said:
But the speed-up effect is mostly a placebo. Also the effect on the battery will be insignificant. At least the data I check on my Note. So, I would say that this is not necessary.
And not everything Samsung put on the device is bloatware.
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i see your point but it is better to remove it if u dont use it i have a SGS4 LTE and i love to remove the bloatware because now i have a faster phone and a longer battery life than the Stock ROM with the bloatware

G72-8X said:
...and i love to remove the bloatware because now i have a faster phone and a longer battery life than the Stock ROM with the bloatware
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When someone has this expression then I already agree to remove it. But I still believe that removing the bloatware didn't make the tablet faster or the battery cycle longer.
But I am also sure that many people with bloatware many system functions they don't use and here you can most of them disable without removing anything.
So, when the question is if it is necessary to remove then my answer is still: Surely not.
PS. Its for me like the usage of all this task managers to kill processes. I mean we didn't live any longer in the 80ies and nobody will be manually better then Android in resource management. But still many Android users believe in the HOX that this fast their devices.

Elim said:
When someone has this expression then I already agree to remove it. But I still believe that removing the bloatware didn't make the tablet faster or the battery cycle longer.
But I am also sure that many people with bloatware many system functions they don't use and here you can most of them disable without removing anything.
So, when the question is if it is necessary to remove then my answer is still: Surely not.
PS. Its for me like the usage of all this task managers to kill processes. I mean we didn't live any longer in the 80ies and nobody will be manually better then Android in resource management. But still many Android users believe in the HOX that this fast their devices.
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Rubbish, rooting makes a bug difference
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Rubbish, rooting makes a bug difference
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So, so and wish difference?
I mean when you here flame then you should also have arguments. And maybe you should quiet down a little bit because then you would see that rooting is something complete different then removing bloatware.

[Guide] How to get the most out of your brand spanking new G3!

Just thought I’d put a short guide together on what I think are some things to do to get the most out of your spanking new LG G3 when you get it or you already have it. Most of you guys might already know most of this or might not. Just thought it might help some people. This ain’t rocket science but every little bit helps!
Battery:
This is the hardest thing to do because like a fingerprint everyone has a different set up with apps and how they use their phone (wifi vs 3g vs 4g etc) that screen on time will always vary. Also you don’t want to turn everything off and cripple your brand new smartphone just for your battery. There’s a balance.
However here are some general things to do that do help:
1. Install Greenify from the Playstore. I have found this is the number one way to stop drainage. This app will hibernate apps when not in use. It doesn’t stop their functionality at all but hibernates them.
2. Don’t use Google Now. I think it’s a gimmick and does bugger all for me however if you use it it will drain your battery big time. Of course if you love it then use it!
3. Don’t use location services. Another big drainer. Just use it when you need it. However if you have apps that need it then of course leave it on!
4. Use ‘auto’ on screen brightness. Mine is on ‘auto’ but at 100% and the brightness is perfectly ok for me.
5. If you continue to get big drainage then download Betterbatterystats from the Playstore and look at the ‘wakelocks’ – this way you will be able to see what’s draining your battery. As a general rule your phone should go into deep sleep for at least 80% of the time.
With this phone I am getting around 5 to 5.5 hours Screen on Time. You should be getting around that too.
Performance:
Here are a few things only that really do help with speed and performance:
1. The whole thermal throttling thing is a pain i.e. LG’s decision to turn down brightness when it gets hot. However there is something you can do and which I have now done for two weeks with no adverse problems. Turn it off! Put this in the phone app: 3845#*400# and then scroll down to 'high temperature property' and switch to enable and do the same for 'thermal daemon mitigation'. Please note my model is ‘400’ so this will work in the number sequence above. For models with other numbers I am pretty sure you just substitute and put that number in e.g. 855.
2. Go to Dev Options and change the transition animation scale, the animator duration scale and the window animation scale to 0.5. This little thing speeds up your phone like nothing else.
3. Root your phone with towelroot. One click root! And then start debloating. Get rid of whatever you want by downloading Titanium Backup and going into each app and freezing whatever you want. Freezing is safer than uninstalling but does the same thing. Debloating is a must!
4. So once rooted then start using xPosed modules by downloading and installing the xPosed framework and then rebooting.
These are my personal Top 3:
a. Download the brilliant xPosed module ‘TweaksBox’ by P_Toti located at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792242
And donate something to him! This allows you to change so much with this phone. I dunno where to start. It is superb.
b. I dislike the LG skin so immediately download the Google launcher – to me it is the fastest launcher out there beating Nova and Apex. This launcher cannot be customised however there is a fantastic xPosed module that allows you to customise everything - Xposed Gel settings located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-xposed-gel-settings-t2647275
And donate to him too!
c. How good would it be to extend your nav bar seamlessly if you slide your finger! Well you can – download Xtended nav bar here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-xtended-navbar-t2787228
And donate to him too!
I can’t think of anything else but these things definitely help.
And get ready for your G3 – it is super duper great!

lol donate this donate that, you sounded like their marketing... nice tips though, I'd like to ask between betterbattery stats and gsam battery monitor, which one better?
will towelroot work on the d855 version?
also what is the difference between greenify's hibernating with titanium backup's freezing?

nap007 said:
lol donate this donate that, you sounded like their marketing... nice tips though, I'd like to ask between betterbattery stats and gsam battery monitor, which one better?
will towelroot work on the d855 version?
also what is the difference between greenify's hibernating with titanium backup's freezing?
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Ha yes someone's got to donate! They do so much and get so little.
Yes the only reason I said bbs is because I'm used to it. Gsam does the same thing essentially.
Yes from what I read towelroot should work.
Greenify hibernates an app in the background if you are not using it whilst freezing apps effectively uninstalls them without the pain of then being actually uninstalled. And you can unfreeze them any time.

okay, again thanks for creating this thread, btw how do we take screenshots from g3?

nap007 said:
okay, again thanks for creating this thread, btw how do we take screenshots from g3?
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Volume down plus back button at same time.

poczynek said:
Volume down plus back button at same time.
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Didn't you mean volume down and power button? Is rather easy to do compared to other phones because it only takes 1 finger (pun intended)
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If you turn off the "Ok Google" listener you will save most off the battery drainage, I find Google Now pretty handy.

Pilz said:
Didn't you mean volume down and power button? Is rather easy to do compared to other phones because it only takes 1 finger (pun intended)
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Yes sorry i meant the button at the back!

What we need is a lost of LG apps that can safely be frozen, and what it is they all do.
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Lennyuk said:
What we need is a lost of LG apps that can safely be frozen, and what it is they all do.
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Yes I've debloated some but just the safe ones. There's heaps there though.
How are you finding yours? I'm loving mine but just hoping more developers get on board. Tell your developer mates please!

Is there any danger turning off the thermal thingy. Could the phone completely overheat?

I'll just confirm for anyone wondering that indeed the turning off the thermal throttling does work by changing the device model number to "855" on the UK version
No adverse effects in last half hour or so and have been trying to run demanding tasks to see how it go's

You can uninstall all of the bloat without any issues. It also helps with your battery life. I usual get 4 hours of screen time post charge. That's more than most people can get on a stock kernel, and it's great for a 2k display.
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holy **** I feel dumb
where is the developer option? I can't find it on my d855

nap007 said:
holy **** I feel dumb
where is the developer option? I can't find it on my d855
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Go to settings, General, About phone, Software information and tap on the build number 7 times. Then go back to General, scroll down and you'll see Developer options.

Diesel779 said:
Go to settings, General, About phone, Software information and tap on the build number 7 times. Then go back to General, scroll down and you'll see Developer options.
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omg thank you, no idea there is a magic code that hid it lol :victory:

surprised this thread does not get more attention, I guess most xda members are experts...
btw does g3 has pre installed torch app (cannot find it in mine, I'm pleasantly surprised that there is just little bloatwares pre installed in my phone...) ? if not what is the best non bloated torch app to use?
and also I'm such a noob, can someone link me a guide to use tapatalk efficiently?
thanks for the help

No torch/flashlight app preinstalled, you will have to install one. Also no task manager that I can see.

What is the best torch app you recommend?
Also task manager? Doesn't the android multitasking app work finely for that?

I am using"flashlight hd led" which seems fine.
Yes android does, I just liked the task manager on the G2, not sure why they didn't keep it.

Weird lag experience on the phone.

Anyone experiencing weird lag on the note4?
I bought two note4 for my lines since one was to be given to father. I rooted both phones on the same day of purchase. I realized that for my phone, I'm experiencing some weird lag moments. Sometimes I would type fast enough to finish the sentence but the keys don't register until a few seconds later. Sometimes scrolling through a page, it would stop and wouldn't move until a few seconds later.
I'm hoping that this is just software issue. Can't wait til we have a custom recovery and rom to flash.

twe90kid said:
Anyone experiencing weird lag on the note4?
I bought two note4 for my lines since one was to be given to father. I rooted both phones on the same day of purchase. I realized that for my phone, I'm experiencing some weird lag moments. Sometimes I would type fast enough to finish the sentence but the keys don't register until a few seconds later. Sometimes scrolling through a page, it would stop and wouldn't move until a few seconds later.
I'm hoping that this is just software issue. Can't wait til we have a custom recovery and rom to flash.
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Have you updated yet? While I don't have my Note yet, I have read that the update increases battery life, and also fixes lag issues.

Did you install xposed and wanam?

Daammnn...we got a bada** over here, rooted both phones at the same day of
purchase.
If I buy a new phone I would use it until the warranty expires.
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Rooted here with exposed and wanam. Even with new update, it's Extremely laggy. It was laggy before Wanam. Didn't use much before rooting.

I got wanam and exposed get a few lag spikes
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I see micro stutter and lag from time to time on stock rom.
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i also was expierencing this on a rooted and none rooted of my phone even after update so i changed my defualt messaging to hangouts and all is good

irfanadli97 said:
Daammnn...we got a bada** over here, rooted both phones at the same day of
purchase.
If I buy a new phone I would use it until the warranty expires.
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Uh seriously? I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, why are you on XDA?

LAGGING everywhere on Build KTU84P N910FXXU1ANIE
Loving my Note 4... but
IT IS VERY LAGGY!!!
As it is, this incredible phone is completely spoiled by a jerky experience, and this is using Google Apps which are usually very smooth, like Play Store, Gmail, Hangouts, Google Plus, and other well made apps like Pulse and Facebook... all usually very smooth, but not with the Note4 I got yesterday. My nexus 5 was much smoother, with a much slower processor.
Do any of you in the UK have the update yet, I have not had it yet?
Cheers
Mark

You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues

Skizzy034 said:
Uh seriously? I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, why are you on XDA?
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Uh? Do I need to root my phone in order to join XDA?
Also I would appreciate what factory ROM has 'served' me, and I would actually use the warranty given for hardware repairs since I'm a clumsy person.
English is not my first language so where do you mean 'sarcastic'?
Sorry.

edouble312 said:
You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Ah yes, the ability to search and read has been getting worse and worse.

I'm also getting random lag, even before root, xposed and wanam. Seems to be the same as the s4, s5 and note 2 previously. Once custom kernels are out with better scheduling, it should be remedied.

edouble312 said:
You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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My phone is not rooted yet... if it cannot work without lag with the stock rom, I will not keep it and it will go back to EE... so I am hoping the update comes very soon. I suggest everyone who has just got their Note 4 does NOT root it until they are satisfied it works as well as they expect it to... it's a lot of money and you have the right to return it within 2 weeks if ordered online (in the UK/EU).

fredphoesh said:
My phone is not rooted yet... if it cannot work without lag with the stock rom, I will not keep it and it will go back to EE... so I am hoping the update comes very soon. I suggest everyone who has just got their Note 4 does NOT root it until they are satisfied it works as well as they expect it to... it's a lot of money and you have the right to return it within 2 weeks if ordered online (in the UK/EU).
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This is the United States.. If I don't like the phone, even rooted... I can return it.. If they don't let me, just file a credit card claim. I paid the phone, I own it.. I can do whatever I want to the software.
I hate it when people jump in scared of Knox or voiding warranty.

edouble312 said:
You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Will check it out.. I don't even use s-health so I didn't think this was the issue.

No lag here

Mine is VERY laggy, throughout all the menus in comaprison to my note3, running cm11 or hyperdrive.
I have xposed (which I think is the main issue, but I need it to run xprivacy), nova, the new firmware update, its rooted (post update) and wanam installed in order to get shealth working.
The phone itself is great, but the over all software implementation is pretty poor. No way a device from a major manufacturer, should be outdone in responsiveness by some AWESOME hobbyists.
With the same setup, as my note3 (side by side), screens change slower, scrolling is slower, and apps open a tad slower. The overall experience is just no where near as smooth as quick.
Now I am comparing 1yr of ROM development (hyper and temasek) vs a 2day release(stock note4), so of course some tweaks need to be made.
If you have a note3 rooted, might want to wait a few weeks before dropping $750.
Also I had to manually up the core speed to 2.7 in faux clock, mine was set at 2.3 for some reason.
The screen is AWESOME, the speaker is surprisingly nice, build quality and feel are top notch (no gaps, or peeling paint, or loose buttons!!!), and the camera really is nice upgrade that I didn't expect I would be happy about.
I only get 42,921 on antutu, which was what I get on my note3 at 2.3ghz ( not over clocked)
That's pretty bad overall performance out the box IMO.

Disabled a lot for me to get rid of the lag. Tons of background apps. Buy main resource hog is the tmobile apps
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What are you disabling in Package Disabler Pro?

For those who are uninitiated, Package disabler pro is an app on the app store that lets you disable programs on your android device without rooting. You can get gains in battery life and performance by disabling bloat using this program.
So far I'm taking a very light approach.
I've disabled:
Android Pay :
com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
CarmodeStub
com.samsung.android.drivelink.stub
Hancom Office 2014
com.hancom.office.editor
Live TV
com.sling.slingtvloader
Lookout
com.lookout
Samsung Milk Music
com.samsung.mdl.radio
Samsung+
com.samsung.oh
T-Mobile TV
com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
I've got 1796 RAM free after a reboot which I feel is pretty good. Although there are probably a ton more things that could be easily disabled. I figured we could get the ball rolling on everyone's results with disabling certain packages as we experiment.

cbutters said:
For those who are uninitiated, Package disabler pro is an app on the app store that lets you disable programs on your android device without rooting. You can get gains in battery life and performance by disabling bloat using this program.
So far I'm taking a very light approach.
I've disabled:
Android Pay :
com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
CarmodeStub
com.samsung.android.drivelink.stub
Hancom Office 2014
com.hancom.office.editor
Live TV
com.sling.slingtvloader
Lookout
com.lookout
Samsung Milk Music
com.samsung.mdl.radio
Samsung+
com.samsung.oh
T-Mobile TV
com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
I've got 1796 RAM free after a reboot which I feel is pretty good. Although there are probably a ton more things that could be easily disabled. I figured we could get the ball rolling on everyone's results with disabling certain packages as we experiment.
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Can you disable T-Mobile's "Carrier IQ?" Or is it just T-Mobile and Samsung bloat? Might buy that app later.

nviz22 said:
Can you disable T-Mobile's "Carrier IQ?" Or is it just T-Mobile and Samsung bloat? Might buy that app later.
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Might need root to be able to do that. I guess.

This was done on the note 5 prior to root. All the work has been done. @rlsroufe has a few xml's done already extreme and a basic one. I still have my list from the note 5. You can just import one of his and tweak it to your needs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
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danon.brown said:
This was done on the note 5 prior to root. All the work has been done. @rlsroufe has a few xml's done already extreme and a basic one. I still have my list from the note 5. You can just import one of his and tweak it to your needs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
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I realize that it was done on the note5, and your link is a great resource, but the application stack is different on the S7 edge (all the edge applications and new "advanced features" tools. And the lack of snote / pen services) Also marshmallow vs Lollipop, I thought it would be good to have device specific (S7 Edge) information in this thread.

cbutters said:
I realize that it was done on the note5, and your link is a great resource, but the application stack is different on the S7 edge (all the edge applications and new "advanced features" tools. And the lack of snote / pen services) Also marshmallow vs Lollipop, I thought it would be good to have device specific (S7 Edge) information in this thread.
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If you import the list you can build off of that. If the app isn't there it cancels out. All the basic apps are there. I use the same apps as lollipop. So the list is almost identical. From my note 5.
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danon.brown said:
If you import the list you can build off of that. If the app isn't there it cancels out. All the basic apps are there. I use the same apps as lollipop. So the list is almost identical. From my note 5.
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I see Google.android.talk in there... Is that hangouts? I use hangouts so I don't want that to be disabled..

eorsini said:
I see Google.android.talk in there... Is that hangouts? I use hangouts so I don't want that to be disabled..
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Correct. You have to tweak it. Once you import it you can go through and uncheck whatever you use. Everyone uses different apps.
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cbutters said:
I realize that it was done on the note5, and your link is a great resource, but the application stack is different on the S7 edge (all the edge applications and new "advanced features" tools. And the lack of snote / pen services) Also marshmallow vs Lollipop, I thought it would be good to have device specific (S7 Edge) information in this thread.
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OP, I'm disabling apps manually to get it where I want... I'll upload screenshots of it when I'm finished. Look for an update late tonight or tomorrow. We can tinker from there until it's perfect for use.

I believe the EDGE doesn't use CIQ anymore, but doesn't mean they are not using something else which they probably do as the setup process asks for "anonymous data collecting" for network management or something like that.

Here is my list. I copied my list from my Note 5 which I started with the XML file that was posted in the linked thread already. I have been having no issues and after getting the phone on Tuesday it has settled down today and I am at 76% battery left with 8 hours off the charger and 1 hour of screen on time (busy day at work today so far).

Here's mine

Why not just go into settings, apps, and disable from there?

blackangst said:
Why not just go into settings, apps, and disable from there?
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Because with Package Disabler you can literally disable any system package.

Here's my list after looking at the couple posted here and adding in my things too. I use Hangouts and pretty much all of the Google stuff (Gmail is blocked because I use Inbox).
Sorry there are so many, you can't scroll screenshot on the S7 Edge

eorsini said:
Here's my list after looking at the couple posted here and adding in my things too. I use Hangouts and pretty much all of the Google stuff (Gmail is blocked because I use Inbox).
Sorry there are so many, you can't scroll screenshot on the S7 Edge
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Curious to find out if after disabling these apps and processes you still show Android System as your biggest battery drainer. Keep us poster, please.
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GiancarloMorr24 said:
Curious to find out if after disabling these apps and processes you still show Android System as your biggest battery drainer. Keep us poster, please.
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Will do. I'm not sure that it will change that from being the biggest battery "drainer" though... My battery was pretty good already. I know we see that on top and automatically think it's a big drain, but I think it's just that way because nothing else uses much battery.
We shall see though!

eorsini said:
Will do. I'm not sure that it will change that from being the biggest battery "drainer" though... My battery was pretty good already. I know we see that on top and automatically think it's a big drain, but I think it's just that way because nothing else uses much battery.
We shall see though!
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That's probably the case. Nonetheless, we see folks on the Exynos variant whose battery stats show significantly less drain from Android System as an overall percentage of battery use over a given charge cycle. Could it be a difference in processor efficiencies, or a TMobile specific "issue?" I have no clue but it's helpful to gather as much information as possible.
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GiancarloMorr24 said:
That's probably the case. Nonetheless, we see folks on the Exynos variant whose battery stats show significantly less drain from Android System as an overall percentage of battery use over a given charge cycle. Could it be a difference in processor efficiencies, or a TMobile specific "issue?" I have no clue but it's helpful to gather as much information as possible.
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Could be the difference in chips. Battery has been great for me as well despite Android System being the biggest "battery hog". Indeed it must be due to the fact that nothing else is consuming much percentage of the battery and if that's the case then it makes sense why Android System would have the highest percentage in battery usage.

I know on my note5 there was something I was disabling that was killing Wi-Fi calling. The packages you are disabling does Wi-Fi calling still work?

Thinking of Buying S7 Edge

So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.

If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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Simone said:
If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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That phone is so old now though by todays standards.

chugger93 said:
That phone is so old now though by todays standards.
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Still better than s7 )

Diaze said:
Still better than s7 )
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Except that it isn't! I have both and I much prefer my S7E, which is why it is my primary device and my N6P my backup.
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Dave
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chugger93 said:
So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.

Symphony0fLife said:
New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.
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Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)

Touchwiz isn't that crappy anymore - pretty smooth actually.
And battery life is insane on the Exynos variant i can get 2-3 days of normal usage without charging (u won't get this with any SD820 phone ^^)
If you don't care about battery life that much and rather want the maximum 3D performance you would probably be better off with a SD820 phone (maybe the next nexus)

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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)
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I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Clean Master does nothing or worse for your battery. It will clean up some files but I would suggest SD Maid for that matter.
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chugger93 said:
So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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Be aware that if you purchase from a US provider (including Sprint and T-Mobile) that you will not be able to root your S7. The bootloader is locked and the vulnerability hasn't been found yet.
Knox is a security app on Samsung phones that will keep secure whatever apps or data are in the Knox vault. It is for people who need higher security. Knox will not work if the phone has been rooted... even if the phone is later unrooted. Rooting trips a flag that will disable Knox and Samsung Pay.

iTouch24 said:
I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Yeah, you can do it that way or use a debloat program which allows you to disable things that touchwiz won't.
I use an app called Greenify (the donation package). It gives you a list of all apps that run in the background (and even system services if you're brave enough to go through them all) and it lets you force them to stop running in the background and only run when you are actually using them on screen. For example say you use Snapchat. It's always running in the background whether you've opened it or not, checking for messages. Greenify can force it to not do that unless you physically open it. The only things I let run in the background are messaging apps I rely on (SMS, Whatsapp, Telegram, Inbox, etc.) and everything else - I let greenify force to hibernate.