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I unboxed my X10 today, and found that besides the relatively more obvious protective film I taken off once I opened the box, there is a EXTRA, very well positioned film on the top of the glass. If you look closely enough, you will see the edge of the extra film from the actual glass underneath. Does anyone else notice the same or is it just me? Is that really just one more layer of protective film or it is part of the material of the glass?
Yes, it comes with one pre-applied screen protector and one inside the box!
Out of interest what sized microSD card was included? Mine came with 16GB (Nordic version).
If I understood it right from the webpage I ordered mine from. does mine come with 8 GB
So how to take it off?
It's driving me insane....and why does a SCRATCH-RESSISTANT screen need a pre-applied screen protector???
So has anyone tried to remove the pre applied fim? I'm so against to use any kind of film on my touch screen device.
ivansee said:
So has anyone tried to remove the pre applied fim? I'm so against to use any kind of film on my touch screen device.
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I hate it too...so i just removed it
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I actually got 2 ADDITIONAL screen protectors :-/ and mine came with 8gb card so ordering a 16gb one online
The "pre applied protector" is the one SE calls scratch resistant, I think. "Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass".
Take a look at the X10 white paper: developer.sonyericsson.com/getDocument.do?docId=102192
brodos123 said:
The "pre applied protector" is the one SE calls scratch resistant, I think. "Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass".
Take a look at the X10 white paper: developer.sonyericsson.com/getDocument.do?docId=102192
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As far as i know mineral glass is in itself "scratch proof". But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched of course. It means minor pocket scratches are avoided.
"Mineral glass is ordinary tempered glass made from silica. It is more scratch resistant than Plexiglass which is a plastic also used for watch crystals."
So if infact it is mineral glass there is no need for an extra layer of protection.
I'm not quite sure what "shutter proof sheet" is but seems strange that this screen should need one when other mineral glass screens do not.
Also should point out that for me it seems identical to the included "screen protector" in both size, thickness and consistency.
I'll report back if scratches start appearing on my screen. I'll give it 7 days of normal use(as i used my iPhone, Hero, LG Arena) to see if any scratches start appearing, but I doubt they will.
I didn't receive my X10 yet, but isn't the 'protective' film used to make the screen more fingerprint resistive?
Vin87 said:
I didn't receive my X10 yet, but isn't the 'protective' film used to make the screen more fingerprint resistive?
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No, infact there were more fingerprints with the film applied vs when i removed it. You need a special coating on the screen for that(oleophobic coating) and with that you can wipe the screen clean very easily.
As far as i know the X10 has not have it's screen treated with oleophobic coating.
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As far as i know mineral glass is in itself "scratch proof". But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched of course. It means minor pocket scratches are avoided.
"Mineral glass is ordinary tempered glass made from silica. It is more scratch resistant than Plexiglass which is a plastic also used for watch crystals."
So if infact it is mineral glass there is no need for an extra layer of protection.
I'm not quite sure what "shutter proof sheet" is but seems strange that this screen should need one when other mineral glass screens do not.
Also should point out that for me it seems identical to the included "screen protector" in both size, thickness and consistency.
I'll report back if scratches start appearing on my screen. I'll give it 7 days of normal use(as i used my iPhone, Hero, LG Arena) to see if any scratches start appearing, but I doubt they will.
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According to the white pages:
"Scratch-resistant Yes. Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass"
The way I see it the "sheet" makes it scratch resistant.
If you ever had a watch (clock) with mineral glass, you know that it scratches easily. for a scratch resistant glass you need a saphire glass!
Both iphone and nexus one probarbly have mineral glass, but the thing making those so resistant (see youtube) is some kind of coating on the glass. (I think)
brodos123 said:
According to the white pages:
"Scratch-resistant Yes. Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass"
The way I see it the "sheet" makes it scratch resistant.
If you ever had a watch (clock) with mineral glass, you know that it scratches easily. for a scratch resistant glass you need a saphire glass!
Both iphone and nexus one probarbly have mineral glass, but the thing making those so resistant (see youtube) is some kind of coating on the glass. (I think)
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There is nothing in the white papers suggesting that either the nexus one, iPhone nor my old Hero had any other coating than the oleophobic coating for easy fingerprint removal.
Here is a good explanation of mineral glass vs. sapphire glass:
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1870141
And yes Sapphire glass is the best but cost too much for ordinary phones. mineral glass will protect the phone against most pocket scratches. But the real test will be the next 7 days, today there is no apparent scratching of the phone(no micro-scratches either).
Also of note is that the screen seems much more responsive after the removal of their so called "shutter proof sheet".
What we really need is an reviewer that doesn't give a damn about his test-unit to give it a go...with and without the sheet!
Trekster said:
No, infact there were more fingerprints with the film applied vs when i removed it. You need a special coating on the screen for that(oleophobic coating) and with that you can wipe the screen clean very easily.
As far as i know the X10 has not have it's screen treated with oleophobic coating.
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Thanks for the two nice photos, Trekster! Do you find touch sensitivity has improved after you removed the sheet? I've been using the X10 for 1.5 days so far, and I still feel like sensitivity is not as good as iPhone (even worse than Nexus One)
ivansee said:
Thanks for the two nice photos, Trekster! Do you find touch sensitivity has improved after you removed the sheet? I've been using the X10 for 1.5 days so far, and I still feel like sensitivity is not as good as iPhone (even worse than Nexus One)
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Yes the sensitivity has been improved quite a bit. I would say it's on par with the other touchscreen phones now.
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So how to take it off?
It's driving me insane....and why does a SCRATCH-RESSISTANT screen need a pre-applied screen protector???
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The watchword here is scratch-resistant.
A glass screen will always be more scratch resistant than a plastic screen, but that doesn't mean that it can't be scratched at all. The screen-protector is just a way of helping extend the life of the screen face and I personally thank SE for providing it. Take spectacles for example. Glass lenses are harder wearing, but cost more and weigh more. Plastic lenses are lighter and cost less, but are more prone to scratches. You can still scratch glass lenses by putting them down glass first.
The difference between mineral glass and sapphire glass is interesting. My watch has a sapphire glass face and it has *ONE* scratch after 3 years of being worn everyday. That scratch came from a HARD direct impact (which hurt my wrist). The face is otherwise flawless.
ZenithUK said:
The watchword here is scratch-resistant.
A glass screen will always be more scratch resistant than a plastic screen, but that doesn't mean that it can't be scratched at all. The screen-protector is just a way of helping extend the life of the screen face and I personally thank SE for providing it. Take spectacles for example. Glass lenses are harder wearing, but cost more and weigh more. Plastic lenses are lighter and cost less, but are more prone to scratches. You can still scratch glass lenses by putting them down glass first.
The difference between mineral glass and sapphire glass is interesting. My watch has a sapphire glass face and it has *ONE* scratch after 3 years of being worn everyday. That scratch came from a HARD direct impact (which hurt my wrist). The face is otherwise flawless.
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Yes if you read my posts further along I do point out that the screen isn't scratch-proof
I do question the decision and still do as my HTC Hero(which I bought back in August 09) has ZERO scratches And they are both supposed to be based on the same mineral-glass technology.
Im testing
Well, I've removed the screen protector and I think it is much better.
It seems so much smoother, and the screen is definitely more responsive.
I will post again in a couple of weekend to keep you all up-to-date.
soo... u guys can confirm the touchscreen is way better without the foil on? ( more sensetive aaand more accurate???)
coz i am thinking of swappin mine 2 the Desire.. but cant test it takin of the protector.. otherwise they wont return it...
I have had my problems with the X10, but the screen and its sensitivity is not one of them.. Without the exception of the edges...
I can almost never type "a".
I added the second protection as well, and love how the screen works / flows...
(with the exception of the left edge )
Seeing that many people ask about this, and many people promise to post up a video but never do, I show it on video.
Sorry I have a cold. The video is also sped up.
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(After some people wondering if the removal of the film would effect the front facing camera. IT DOES NOT! Here's a video for proof)
Front facing camera test
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Q: What kind of glass/plastic is the Xperia Play screen made of?
A: The Screen is mineral glass, not as scratch resistant as Gorilla glass though (Iphone/Razr/etc)
Q:How scratch resistant is Mineral Glass?
A:Mineral Glass is scratch resistant. But not scratch proof. My keys scratched tiny nicks and scrapes on my screen (No screen protectors, Shatter film removed, raw glass screen), but it's held up in my pocket pretty well.
Q: I've heard the factory "Screen protector" sucks!
A: There are two "layers" of "Screen Protectors" on a Xperia play. The first one is that stretchy, vinyl, cheap looking layer that you get when you first get your phone and it scratches super easy.
The second layer is the factory fitted shatter proof film that doubles as a screen protector. Leave it on unless it becomes super scratched, then refer to my removal video above.
Q: Will putting on a screen protector on top of the original shatter film/screen protector decrease the sensitivity of my screen?
A: Keeping the shatter film on and placing another purchased screen protector will not effect the screen sensitivity.
Q: Are the colors more bright and vivid after the shatter film is removed?
A: From what I can tell, no
Q: Is the screen sensitivity better when the shatter film is removed?
A: From what I can tell, no
Q: Is the screen easier to slide my finger on after the film is removed
A: It is actually harder to slide your finger on the raw glass. But it's not a huge difference and not really noticeable.
Q: Is the front facing camera effected by the removal of the shatter film?
A: No, the camera is not effected in any way.
Oh snap dude, so now what is going to block most of that radiation from going into your face?
That film has a polymer to block alot of the harmful emissions.
I might as well keep my shatter proof film on then to be on if there's no difference just to be on the safe side.
I have a screen protecter on top of it as well and I have to say the display still looks good.
I find that poor touch response near the screen edge area. Can it be improved after remove this plastic film? Is it really "Glass" screen? because if it is, there is no need to add any screen protector like Iphone and other Phones with tempered glass screen!
vincentbingkau said:
I find that poor touch response near the screen edge area. Can it be improved after remove this plastic film? Is it really "Glass" screen? because if it is, there is no need to add any screen protector like Iphone and other Phones with tempered glass screen!
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I believe it is glass, just not gorilla glass (the kinda of glass iPhone has)
vincentbingkau said:
I find that poor touch response near the screen edge area. Can it be improved after remove this plastic film? Is it really "Glass" screen? because if it is, there is no need to add any screen protector like Iphone and other Phones with tempered glass screen!
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It's mineral glass. Very scratch resistant. Just maybe not as tough/shatter proof as gorilla glass.
wasabiboi said:
It's mineral glass. Very scratch resistant. Just maybe not as tough/shatter proof as gorilla glass.
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Will this removal improve touch-response? If not, is it necessary to do "Touch- Screen calibration" and how?
vincentbingkau said:
Will this removal improve touch-response? If not, is it necessary to do "Touch- Screen calibration" and how?
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I have certainly noticed better responsiveness with the anti-shatter screen peeled off, and no you don't need anything re-calibrated
I did this, great quality, but check the front camera ruined.
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savage24x said:
I did this, great quality, but check the front camera ruined.
Sent from my R800x using XDA
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Just curious why peeling the plastic film will damage the front camera?? Is this plastic film is direct contact with front camera's lens?? any photos?
savage24x said:
I did this, great quality, but check the front camera ruined.
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Negative.
Mine still works fine. I'll throw up a video tomorrow.
The film should have no effect on the front facing camera because it's under the glass screen.
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Just curious why peeling the plastic film will damage the front camera?? Is this plastic film is direct contact with front camera's lens?? any photos?
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Nevermind, I rebooted and it's fine.
Sent from my R800x using XDA
If you remove the film, you will have the worst time trying to use your phone with moist fingers, so if you have sweaty fingers don't do it unless you plan on adding another screen protector, I removed it and had problems, used am invisible shield and it fixed the problem.
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GojiTronix said:
If you remove the film, you will have the worst time trying to use your phone with moist fingers, so if you have sweaty fingers don't do it unless you plan on adding another screen protector, I removed it and had problems, used am invisible shield and it fixed the problem.
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I haven't had much of an issue with it because it's not very noticeable.
Sticky Worthy?
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Sticky Worthy?
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I think so.
Also, quick question. After 9 months of use, my Play has more scratches than I can possibly count. I have not removed anything from the screen yet.
If I remove the first layer of the factory fitted thing, will this remove said scratches? Also, will I need to do this if I want to add a new screen protector?
Leraeniesh said:
I think so.
Also, quick question. After 9 months of use, my Play has more scratches than I can possibly count. I have not removed anything from the screen yet.
If I remove the first layer of the factory fitted thing, will this remove said scratches? Also, will I need to do this if I want to add a new screen protector?
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If you didn't add the screen protector that came in the box with your Play, it's only one layer. Yes, removing that shield will remove the scratches, and I would highly recommend doing so before you affix a new screen protector. I wouldn't want all those scratches being preserved by a new shield.
I removed the film in the first week I had the phone. It's been almost a year now and I don't have even a single mark on the glass, despite the phone being dropped face-down on concrete multiple times!
Other parts on the phone have already broken, but not the screen! The film is basically useless.
As the title says, Don't remove the screenprotector on the back. If you do say you will end up having what I have now....
Probably this is only will occur on the white XZ. Man this is really f*cked up to fix it. I hope its just the glue they use to stick the screenprotector, but it will take hell of a time to fix the back.
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noooooo! Fu*k... please take a photo with light.
however, take care in
that's no problem, use some glue remover. you can buy it any shopping center.
it won't affect the case because it's glass.
Did you really have to remove it?
I understand removing it from the screen (because it smudges and the screen is scratch resistant anyway), as I did that to my previous phone myself.
But on the back? As if it makes a difference there...
Strange , im thinking to add second layer screen protector on it .
Its odd to find that there is ppl who want it removed .
Don't worry, it's just glue - like with previous Xperias. Use glue remover and you'll be fine.
I don't understand why people remove it though...it's protecting your screen from scratches and shattering, can't see how this is a bad thing - but that's everybody's personal choice.
Hahaha, I was still using the protective sheet on the rear glassl (the opaque one with the little guide info on it) because was worried that I would scratch it. But know that I discovered that also the rear glass has a protective sheet on it, I removed the other one
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Hahaha, I was still using the protective sheet on the rear glassl (the opaque one with the little guide info on it) because was worried that I would scratch it. But know that I discovered that also the rear glass has a protective sheet on it, I removed the other one
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Yea I don't know why they put in so many protectors. One on each side is plenty and in time I will remove the front one (it scratches).
Two protectors on a display :silly:
Well.. but it in a bowl of water for 30 minutes, and i bet it'll come off
LordManhattan said:
Well.. but it in a bowl of water for 30 minutes, and i bet it'll come off
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Yea, But prob Ru inn His phone lol, He has the ZL I think
Zl doesnt have a glass back
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An1mA said:
As the title says, Don't remove the screenprotector on the back. If you do say you will end up having what I have now....
Probably this is only will occur on the white XZ. Man this is really f*cked up to fix it. I hope its just the glue they use to stick the screenprotector, but it will take hell of a time to fix the back.
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This is not screen protector i think. Xperia has shatter proof film. You should receive standard screen protectors in box.
robdevil said:
This is not screen protector i think. Xperia has shatter proof film. You should receive standard screen protectors in box.
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Yes, those definitely are the shatter-proof films which are *not* screen protectors. You are supposed to apply a screen protector on top of it.
deception_ said:
Yes, those definitely are the shatter-proof films which are *not* screen protectors. You are supposed to apply a screen protector on top of it.
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Could you explain the difference then? To me, they're both sticky pieces of plastic that hold together the glass if it breaks and adds a layer so there's no direct contact with the actual screen. So the names might be different and the marketing as well, but I think they're basically the same product. Also, putting a screen protector on top of the shatter-proof film? Little silly if you ask me.
moraal said:
Could you explain the difference then? To me, they're both sticky pieces of plastic that hold together the glass if it breaks and adds a layer so there's no direct contact with the actual screen. So the names might be different and the marketing as well, but I think they're basically the same product. Also, putting a screen protector on top of the shatter-proof film? Little silly if you ask me.
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The difference is very simple.
Screen protector is used to prevent scratches - it's usually covered with oleophobic coating and made from harder materials to make it more scratch-resistant.
Anti-shatter film is applied using thermal methods after tempered glass is cut off. It's not nearly as hard as screen protectors, but is resistant to being cut, sliced or torn apart - it also absorbs tension and spreads it evenly. Also, since it's applied thermally, using special glue, it will hold pieces of the screen together even if it breaks. Normal screen protector won't do that, it'll just peel off. Dont believe ? Hit a car's side window with a hammer - it'll shatter into million pieces. Now do the same with the windshield - it'll break and bend in, but won't shatter.
I understand you might not like it - but please don't say that they're useless or silly. There is a reason why they put this film on car windshields, buildings' glass facades etc. It's not "just marketing", however you look at it.
Akiainavas said:
I understand you might not like it - but please don't say that they're useless or silly. There is a reason why they put this film on car windshields, buildings' glass facades etc. It's not "just marketing", however you look at it.
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Yea. The reason is those are situations where serious body harm can occur otherwise.
If I drop my phone and the screen shatters, #1 I won't put my hand into the shards #2 the phone is bin ready anyway.
The sheet is there for one reason and one alone: to stop people from tearing their fingers when the screen breaks and suing Sony.
No other phone manufacturer does this crap. It's because Sony assumes the worst from users, period.
Is it only sony that use this protective film?
don't understand why you would remove it in the first place. Why mess with a perfectly fine (asthetically) phone. Just needed to add a screen protector on top and that is that. Not like the back is important like someone mentioned.
jameslfc5 said:
Is it only sony that use this protective film?
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Samsung don't do it that's for sure. Apple neither.
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m00moo said:
don't understand why you would remove it in the first place. Why mess with a perfectly fine (asthetically) phone. Just needed to add a screen protector on top and that is that. Not like the back is important like someone mentioned.
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Because it's impossible to get a scratch resistant protector on perfectly, and even if you do it will always have fuzz underneath.
Nothing can top a naked screen.
lloydbf said:
It's because Sony assumes the worst from users, period.
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Looking at how some people remove it right away, because they "dont like" screen protectors - i think Sony is right to assume that.
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Because it's impossible to get a scratch resistant protector on perfectly, and even if you do it will always have fuzz underneath.
Nothing can top a naked screen.
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Had absolutely no problems here, so it is possible after all.
Not trying to convince anyone - just saying that in my opinion it's a good thing and it shouldn't be removed if there's no need to do so.
E-mail from Sony:
Dear Mr. *********
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
First of all we are sorry you experiencing issues with your Sony Mobile handset
With regards to your inquiry, we would like to inform you that, Sony Xperia Z mobile phone features a tempered and scratch-resistant display glass. In addition, the glass often has a shatterproof layer, an anti-shatter film (ASF), over it. The purpose of the anti-shatter film (ASF) is to make the display withstand being dropped from greater heights. The anti-shatter film has a positive effect on the sensitivity and accuracy of the touch screen.
The anti-shatter film is softer than the display glass and thus less scratch-resistant. If the layer is peeled off the display will lose some its shatterproof characteristics.
Note: Please note that we do not recommend the removal of the anti-shatter film. This voids the warranty. In cases where the device needs to have the anti-shatter film replaced, we would suggest you to visit one of the authorized Sony Mobile Service Centers in order to have your Sony Xperia™ Z mobile phone thoroughly checked.
So... DO NOT remove your Shatter Proof Sheet as you could void your warranty!! WTF Sony?!
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E-mail from Sony:
Dear Mr. *********
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
First of all we are sorry you experiencing issues with your Sony Mobile handset
With regards to your inquiry, we would like to inform you that, Sony Xperia Z mobile phone features a tempered and scratch-resistant display glass. In addition, the glass often has a shatterproof layer, an anti-shatter film (ASF), over it. The purpose of the anti-shatter film (ASF) is to make the display withstand being dropped from greater heights. The anti-shatter film has a positive effect on the sensitivity and accuracy of the touch screen.
The anti-shatter film is softer than the display glass and thus less scratch-resistant. If the layer is peeled off the display will lose some its shatterproof characteristics.
Note: Please note that we do not recommend the removal of the anti-shatter film. This voids the warranty. In cases where the device needs to have the anti-shatter film replaced, we would suggest you to visit one of the authorized Sony Mobile Service Centers in order to have your Sony Xperia™ Z mobile phone thoroughly checked.
So... DO NOT remove your Shatter Proof Sheet as you could void your warranty!! WTF Sony?!
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so if you want an oleophobic film u need to put on top of the anti-shatter film well thats dumb.
G1_enthusiast said:
so if you want an oleophobic film u need to put on top of the anti-shatter film well thats dumb.
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I have applied an SPG and the screen is working fine, but I'd prefer not to use any screen protector at all as they are extremely difficult to apply perfect without bubbles dust and aligned correctly... it's a nightmare!!
Some say lose the warranty, others say not lose the warranty! And now?
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Some say lose the warranty, others say not lose the warranty! And now?
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I think that they will not even notice if you remove the film, or they could.. because of the sony logo!!!
It all boils down to individual preferences if you wanna remove , go ahead, I personally think it's nicer to have it removed
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I bet that most of us don't want to lose the Sony logo
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I think you will lose warranty in relation to the screen
However if the phone develops another fault like the battery or motherboard, then this should still be covered as the can't prove that removal of the film damaged the battery for example
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searley said:
I think you will lose warranty in relation to the screen
However if the phone develops another fault like the battery or motherboard, then this should still be covered as the can't prove that removal of the film damaged the battery for example
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In my opinion, same thing as HTC warranty with locked bootloader...
Here, if you have problems that isn't related to screen shatters or something similar, it will covered by warranty for sure.
They don't want to honour the warranty even if the problem isn't related to the screen? CALL THEM! Don't let a mail or a message close the whole thing...it's your right, you'll have to become THEIR WORST NIGHTMARE.:good:
Dont really care what Sony says. The Anti shatter film is u ugly piece of sh*t, which is as much scratch resistant as cheese. And having two layers of film to avoid scratches? no thanks.
The phone looks 10 times more premium without it.
As much as i love my device, it pisses me off that Sony puts this crap on the phone, and to just top it off, they print the Sony logo on the film. what a joke Sony!!!!
planned obsolescence F***
On Xperia X10, Arc, Arc S and Xperia S I removed this plastic cheap sh!t and they looked fabulous and they were really scratch resistant!! Now the only reason I don't want to peel it off is the damn Sony logo that is printed on this film!!!!
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planned obsolescence F***
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Sorry, no link to the issue. Please go on a brainless rant elsewhere.
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FiveInline said:
Dont really care what Sony says. The Anti shatter film is u ugly piece of sh*t, which is as much scratch resistant as cheese. And having two layers of film to avoid scratches? no thanks.
The phone looks 10 times more premium without it.
As much as i love my device, it pisses me off that Sony puts this crap on the phone, and to just top it off, they print the Sony logo on the film. what a joke Sony!!!!
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You're right...I agree.
I wonder why, in 2013, Sony is still stuck to apply these crappy plastic s**t loads on the display...instead of apply an oleophobic coating on the REAL display without crappy plastics above...
the anti shutter film is great for those who want to protect the screen. i can tell you that my phone fell on to the ground on the streets a couple of days ago and it looked shattered on a small part of the back. i just found out today that there were films on the phone and i hate films, they seem to remove some of the niceness of a screen, so peeled them of and there werent any damage on the back. the sony logo is gone too. i didnt know that the warranty expired if i did so, so i hope that it isnt so all over the world. so i suggest that you keep it on.
reptile64 said:
On Xperia X10, Arc, Arc S and Xperia S I removed this plastic cheap sh!t and they looked fabulous and they were really scratch resistant!! Now the only reason I don't want to peel it off is the damn Sony logo that is printed on this film!!!!
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Same here
Until today not informed of the reason the Sony logo be printed on film and not on the screen?
Although without the logo of Sony is too beautiful the front of the device all black!
Various devices are coming without the logo on the front! See Nexus 4!
What has a tiny little cheapo sticker to do woth warranty? Im sure its an new employe who doesnt know sh8t.
Its just an stupid sticker you dont open the phome.
Things like this pisses me really off..
Retards.. Retards evywhere..
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I removed mine and am very happy. Although I did drop mine phone and the power button broke. It's a minor fix that flextronics ( Sony's repair company) does for around 40$. Love the phone and will be lost without it when it goes in.
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I don't see how they can void your warranty for removing a piece of plastic film.
1) If the screen shatters by dropping it etc.. they wouldn't replace/repair that under warranty anyway
2) If any other part of the device fails, they cannot say it failed because you removed a piece of plastic film from the screen
I think the person is talking through their arse!
I do see the use of the ASF though I'd have preferred if they left the screen untouched and gave you the choice to whether you want to apply it or not. A screen protector has the same functions as the ASF. What Sony should have done is not apply one and just give a separate screen protector (ASF) and advised to apply it due to blah blah blah reasons.
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now, i thought the z1 had some sort of toughened glass, i noticed this morning that my display has a chip in the screen
i thought it might be something stuck, so i gently ran my fingernail over it and it's as though a tiny chunk has been taken out of the glass. wasn't there before, and i haven't dropped it or knocked it against anything (to my knowledge)
now that sucks, especially as i know it's there!
whoa that's hard..
but you sure it's not the anti shatter proof sheet that got chipped?
zegun said:
whoa that's hard..
but you sure it's not the anti shatter proof sheet that got chipped?
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don't think so, running the fingernail on it, it feels like a chip in the actual glass
wasn't there when i got it, because i'm pretty precise about these things - i tried putting the screen protector on it when i got it but messed that up, so no external protector on it...
bigviv said:
now, i thought the z1 had some sort of toughened glass, i noticed this morning that my display has a chip in the screen
i thought it might be something stuck, so i gently ran my fingernail over it and it's as though a tiny chunk has been taken out of the glass. wasn't there before, and i haven't dropped it or knocked it against anything (to my knowledge)
now that sucks, especially as i know it's there!
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Is it front side? If yes could it just be the screen protector which every device has? My protector already has countless scratches, some pretty deep. Seems to be low quality for original sony...
okay then last question...
do you still have that Sony logo infront of your phone?
if yes, then it's the anti shatter proof that you chipped.. a pretty common case if it does
so if you remove it, you will get the bare Dragontrail glass but no oleophobic coating
getting a tempered glass screen guard is still the best choice as of now
zegun said:
okay then last question...
do you still have that Sony logo infront of your phone?
if yes, then it's the anti shatter proof that you chipped.. a pretty common case if it does
so if you remove it, you will get the bare Dragontrail glass but no oleophobic coating
getting a tempered glass screen guard is still the best choice as of now
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yeah, the logo is still there, i guess it's the antishatter screen, i'm not going to remove that for now, will deal with it
will consider the tempered glass screen guard for now
i have no idea where or how it could have happened!
Isn't there any warranty covering something like this? Sony has been saying removing the asf voids your physical / cosmetic warranty for the screen. Doesn't the fact that the asf is still on and there is no evidence of dropping the phone then cover the damage under warranty?
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Haha removing the sheet will get you a badass stealth look
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WOAH! I don't want to freak anyone out, but this has happened to me too. Sony will fix it, but your warranty doesn't cover it
Is the chip a funny colour? As My screen was fine, then a chip has appeared, as if overnight, with a coloured hue to it :/
Freaking. Spooky.
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Haha removing the sheet will get you a badass stealth look
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I agree. When I tried to remove the ASF, it started to chip at the corner too. At first I though it was the screen itself but, if you look at it at ~175 degree angle, you will notice the crack which is on the ASF. Then I carefully remove the ASF. Once you remove the ASF, the screen will be all clear. I then put my screen protector on that I purchased from nillkin. Of course, the Sony logo will be gone, but IMHO, the phone will look more sleeker, have less fingerprint smudges, and less glare.
Let me guess, the chip or scratch is located a bit to the side of the screen.. More likely on the place where you place your thumb the most..... Because a repeated nail friction could damage the sheet pretty fast...
It happened to my Z1 too, but applying a screen protector on it helps hiding the damage quite a bit
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i spoke with sony who asked me to send it in
so will send it to them and see what they say - me being me, i can't stand to see that little chip in the screen!!
when i get it back, i'll put a screen protector on it - now to find a screen protector which doesn't take away from the good looks of the phone!
bigviv said:
i spoke with sony who asked me to send it in
so will send it to them and see what they say - me being me, i can't stand to see that little chip in the screen!!
when i get it back, i'll put a screen protector on it - now to find a screen protector which doesn't take away from the good looks of the phone!
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Let us know how you get on mate, I want to send mine into Sony, but A) I'm scared it's going to cost £60+ to fix and B) they want £10-£15 to send the phone back to me :/
I've got a tiny piece missing all of a sudden. I swear it's been treated with love but I think it's the ASF. Very disappointing from Sony on a premium product.
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