[Q] sooo.. how's situation with flashing and knox? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

was reading around but after hundreds of pages and thread im startin to get confused
im thinking to buy this week a note 3 unbranded and was trying to understand the situation atm..
is still impossible to flash some rom or root or to go to latest kitkat without breaking knox?
u think sooner or later will be a way to do that and to reset that counter?
what is possible to do nowadays?
ty for help

this is your best option so far...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729

alisj99 said:
this is your best option so far...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
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that mj7 is a kitkat?
so i'll take as i dont have to do any ota update if i want to be able to flash anything, or at 99% it will upgrade to an unrootable version?

I don't think anyone was able to root a kitkat-updated Note 3
so my advice is to root before flashing anything, I've updated to kitkat immediately as I got my phone so I can't root
anyways,
here are more helpful threads..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48790769
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oh and also hit thanks if I helped although I have no idea why you should do that or if I would benefit form this.. but yeah do it if I helped lol

whazi said:
was reading around but after hundreds of pages and thread im startin to get confused
im thinking to buy this week a note 3 unbranded and was trying to understand the situation atm..
is still impossible to flash some rom or root or to go to latest kitkat without breaking knox?
u think sooner or later will be a way to do that and to reset that counter?
what is possible to do nowadays?
ty for help
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If you get a Note 3 with one of the early bootloaders, it can be rooted without tripping KNOX. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
If you are running MJ4 higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
Kitkat cannot be rooted without tripping Knox,
But you can run stock kitkat with Knox intact.

still no change I take it on this topic?
is the GS5 like the N3 with knox ???????
If i'd of know I would of gone for the nexus 5, what a ball ache.
Shame on Samsung

they had the S5 rooted in 1 day! and its much simpler then the note 3. this is the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMWzMbM5SCk. im actually asking him atm can I run the same thing on the note 3 as it seems less difficult to root S5 with knox then root Note 3 with Knox!

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[Q] new to S4. want root. on 9505

HI. I just got my S4 today. I come from having an S3 for the last 6 months - flashed and rooted and whatever.
This Knox stuff confuses me. I have spent half the day reading about it, and still don't entirely understand.
I'm in the UK, i just got a blue S4 on EE from P4U (so it is not simlocked or carrier branded), XXUDMH8.
I just want root so i can restore my messages with Helium and debloat with systemcleanup. The bloat is KILLING the battery, omg.
Can anyone give me advice? My Knox is still 0x0 though i dont know if it matters with P4U either way with respect to warranty...
leoniedelt said:
HI. I just got my S4 today. I come from having an S3 for the last 6 months - flashed and rooted and whatever.
This Knox stuff confuses me. I have spent half the day reading about it, and still don't entirely understand.
I'm in the UK, i just got a blue S4 on EE from P4U (so it is not simlocked or carrier branded), XXUDMH8.
I just want root so i can restore my messages with Helium and debloat with systemcleanup. The bloat is KILLING the battery, omg.
Can anyone give me advice? My Knox is still 0x0 though i dont know if it matters with P4U either way with respect to warranty...
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Hi.
before u do anything, have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
it should gives u a better understanding.
Cheers..
maanz said:
Hi.
before u do anything, have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
it should gives u a better understanding.
Cheers..
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Thank you - my head is totally spinning.
Thing is, do i even need to care about Knox?
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leoniedelt said:
Thank you - my head is totally spinning.
Thing is, do i even need to care about Knox?
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to me, Knox is about warranty only if u are sending yr device for repair.
that's what Samsung has implement on 4.3 firmwares.
other than that, u can use it on a daily basis, with knox 0x1.
keep checking the thread until the dev or any other threads comes up with a knox solution.
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to me, Knox is about warranty only if u are sending yr device for repair.
that's what Samsung has implement on 4.3 firmwares.
other than that, u can use it on a daily basis, with knox 0x1.
keep checking the thread until the dev or any other threads comes up with a knox solution.
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I bought insurance from P4U so i dont ever have to send my device for repair, they'll just give me a new one in the store for £50.
BTW i followed the info on post #6787 in that thread linked, but it did not change anything. I dont have root, that's for sure?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824&page=679
U should install mega rom from that thread. The details is on 1st page and it tells u how to get root..
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
maanz said:
U should install mega rom from that thread. The details is on 1st page and it tells u how to get root..
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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I'm either thick, or addled from too much new information coming from S3, which was so easy compared to this.
I cant even see the link to a plain mega rom. I dont want wanam or exposed or any of that, i just want stock with root so i can debloat because my battery is running down so quickly...
edit: got it. still want to try and avoid tripping knox, if i can. I dont want Wanam... do i need it?
ACTUALLY: i like the look of Echoe 5.0 - since it wont trip the Knox, can i flash that instead? I'm quite familiar with Odin so that isnt a problem, and with modems too, and kernels, etc...
Yes u can.
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maanz said:
Yes u can.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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Maanz, thank you for your help. I appreciate it.
leoniedelt said:
Maanz, thank you for your help. I appreciate it.
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Please do check the thread regularly for any new infos.
Cheers..
maanz said:
Please do check the thread regularly for any new infos.
Cheers..
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Gonna start with the mega rom, cos i'm nervous. lol.
Thanks again. Hopefully Chainfire will figure a way around this Knox mess.
maanz said:
Please do check the thread regularly for any new infos.
Cheers..
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I now have root on XXUDMH8. And i can debloat myself. And Knox is still at 0x0.
Again, my kindest thanks.
leoniedelt said:
I now have root on XXUDMH8. And i can debloat myself. And Knox is still at 0x0.
Again, my kindest thanks.
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Good to hear that, mate..
leoniedelt said:
I now have root on XXUDMH8. And i can debloat myself. And Knox is still at 0x0.
Again, my kindest thanks.
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Happy for you! On the other hand, I am a newbie eager to know how to flash the newest ROM, the "Echoe v5 plus". I have the same XXUDMH8 version and i have a white Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505. I have never done a root, but as i have understood so far by reading the past 3 days (day and night): i have to enable USB debugging, i have to ROOT it first with Odin and CF-Autoroot. Then i guess i have to RECOVER/BACK UP with philz touch 5.18.5-i9505.tar.md5 file, again in downloading mode (Volume down+Power+Home, then volume up to accept). after that i should be able to FLASH the newest rom (currently uploading by friedrich420) :angel: i hope i am right about this, because i asked people around and nobody is willing to help me so far and one more thing: i am really confused with the MJ5 modem flash...do i need to flash this modem version BEFORE or AFTER i flash the echoe v5 plus ROM?
Thank you in advance, any helpful answer would be more than welcome.
androidnewbie777 said:
Happy for you! On the other hand, I am a newbie eager to know how to flash the newest ROM, the "Echoe v5 plus". I have the same XXUDMH8 version and i have a white Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505. I have never done a root, but as i have understood so far by reading the past 3 days (day and night): i have to enable USB debugging, i have to ROOT it first with Odin and CF-Autoroot. Then i guess i have to RECOVER/BACK UP with philz touch 5.18.5-i9505.tar.md5 file, again in downloading mode (Volume down+Power+Home, then volume up to accept). after that i should be able to FLASH the newest rom (currently uploading by friedrich420) :angel: i hope i am right about this, because i asked people around and nobody is willing to help me so far and one more thing: i am really confused with the MJ5 modem flash...do i need to flash this modem version BEFORE or AFTER i flash the echoe v5 plus ROM?
Thank you in advance, any helpful answer would be more than welcome.
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I didnt use CFautoroot because i read it triggers Knox.
I also read custom recovery triggers Knox.
Normally you'd want a custom recovery like philZ (i had it on my S3, its brilliant) and then once you have root you're free to flash whatever rom you want. Modem you'd only change if you keep getting dropped signal for the phone. Odin is cool, also you can flash zips in PhilZ / clockworkmod recovery.
BUT. If you want Knox intact, the only, ONLY method so far, is to use the thread linked further up, get a "Megarom", flash it, then do what it says with the .sh and the folder, and that's it, do nothing else.
I have done this, but i havent done EchoeRom -yet-. I want to (!!!!!!) -- who doesnt want a phone full of Pink Floyd OMG.

[Q] Best way to Root on KK 4.4.2

Hey all, I just got my new Note3 in the post today.
First thing i did was turn it on and update to KK 4.4.2, so my device is not knox triggered and completely stock atm.
I don't want any custom rom yet but i do want to root it.
I've seen that a couple of safe methods to root stopped working since KK update.
What would be the best and most safe way for me to root my N-9005 (i have the european version)
Thanks in advance !
Cheers
martyzzz said:
Hey all, I just got my new Note3 in the post today.
First thing i did was turn it on and update to KK 4.4.2, so my device is not knox triggered and completely stock atm.
I don't want any custom rom yet but i do want to root it.
I've seen that a couple of safe methods to root stopped working since KK update.
What would be the best and most safe way for me to root my N-9005 (i have the european version)
Thanks in advance !
Cheers
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Can't safely root and keep KNOX once you're on KK. - There's plenty of threads with this exact same question
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If you wanna root regardless, use CF-Autoroot - it'll trip KNOX
Thanks for the tip.
Ill just do a CF root than
Cheers

Root without trigger Knox

Hi,
I'm new in Samsung Galaxy Note 3 forum. I bought one recently and already had Android KiTKat 4.4.2 firmware update. Now i want to root my device but safetly without trigger knox. Anyone know a solution? Maybe with Kingo Android Root?
Thx
Welcome. Your answer is all over the place.
Sent from my N9005
to tell you the truth , im here for 3 years rooted my s2 , nexus 4/5 , never post anything and was all the time able to find what i needed...
looked everywhere and i still didn't found an answer to my question..
how to root my note 3 n900 without tripping knox on 4.2.2... or if its impossible..
i know tha note 3 n9005 is problematic , but in all the post says that Galaxy Note 3 Exynos can be rooted without tripping knox...
Dejan Sathanas said:
Welcome. Your answer is all over the place.
Sent from my N9005
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Men7a said:
to tell you the truth , im here for 3 years rooted my s2 , nexus 4/5 , never post anything and was all the time able to find what i needed...
looked everywhere and i still didn't found an answer to my question..
how to root my note 3 n900 without tripping knox on 4.2.2... or if its impossible..
i know tha note 3 n9005 is problematic , but in all the post says that Galaxy Note 3 Exynos can be rooted without tripping knox...
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Thx.
I will try to find an answer for my question.
4.4.2 cannot be rooted safely without tripping Knox
voncrane said:
4.4.2 cannot be rooted safely without tripping Knox
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Yes, it seems u're right but i found this german website:http://www.mobtivity.com/de/news/galaxy-note-3-update-auf-android-kitkat-mit-root-und-knox-0x0.html.
Anyone can explain what is this?
This link is an interesting read....
This douchbag tells us nothing about knox or even warns about it...
then says you can root 4.4.2 and it will Void your warrenty(by this he means knox 0x1)
he then goes on to saying you can reflash 4.4.2 without root to "get back your warrenty".
i guess he doesnt know that once its 0x1 it cant be reset...
or he knows something we dont..???
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...-3-lte-sm-n9005-new-xxuenb7-firmware-tutorial
HC4Life said:
Yes, it seems u're right but i found this german website:http://www.mobtivity.com/de/news/galaxy-note-3-update-auf-android-kitkat-mit-root-und-knox-0x0.html.
Anyone can explain what is this?
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This should be an interesting read for you.
All you wanted to know about KNOX Void Warranty 0×1: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
voncrane said:
This should be an interesting read for you.
All you wanted to know about KNOX Void Warranty 0×1: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
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This is not new for me, i'm aware of this, I had a Samsung S4...when u are a flashmaniac u take risks... I sold my S4 with Knox 0x1. But i guess some people don't care about Knox when they want to flash custom roms. Anyway this Knox s**t is ridiculous. Samsung made a bad move and many samsung fans will never buy a samsung device anymore.

[Q] Root without tripping knox?

Hey, I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I want to root it and install cyanogenmod 11 on it. But I read that there's some problem with Knox and how it ends your warranty if the flag changes to 0x1. I'm currently on Android 4.4.2 kitkat official ROM by Samsung. Can I root it without loosing my warranty? Also, I read that Kingoroot roots your phone and doesn't trip your knox counter either. Does anyone know about this?
The main thing I wanna do after rooting is change the DPI of my phone. I hate such big icons.
Search for safe root method
saurabh_goyal93 said:
Hey, I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I want to root it and install cyanogenmod 11 on it. But I read that there's some problem with Knox and how it ends your warranty if the flag changes to 0x1. I'm currently on Android 4.4.2 kitkat official ROM by Samsung. Can I root it without loosing my warranty? Also, I read that Kingoroot roots your phone and doesn't trip your knox counter either. Does anyone know about this?
The main thing I wanna do after rooting is change the DPI of my phone. I hate such big icons.
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There isnt way to root without trip KNOX with android 4.4.2
RubbaBand said:
Search for safe root method
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I did search for it. As far as I know, saferoot method is not working with 4.4.2 ROMs.
You are out of luck man
RubbaBand said:
You are out of luck man
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I hate Samsung for this. I'm thinking of trading in my phone for a Nexus 5 now. But I wonder how will I live without memory card support! :'(
Buy an HTC ONE M8 its even better than S5
RubbaBand said:
Buy an HTC ONE M8 its even better than S5
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I wish I could. I'm a student and only I know how I bought S4. It's only one month old. So, I can't buy HTC ONE M8. Anyways, thanks for the suggestion.
If your phone is unlocked
Sell it
Then get some little money then buy htc

Root S5 Without Tripping Knox ??

Hi guys
As some of you know I've just bought a S5 and want to root it.
I touched on this in my last thread but thought it was way off topic and that i should start a new thread.
There's plenty of threads about this but they are either old or speak of particular models of s5 or include installing a custom firmware.
What i would like to know (i got there in the end....lol) is there a way to do a root only (without installing custom firmware or recovery) with out tripping knox?
I think I've looked everywhere but cant find any guides.
I'm in the uk and my s5 is the SM-G900F on android 4.4.2.
Also is it worth even trying to root it when 5.0 is just around the corner?
Anyone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Just install this app, and hit the button! Worked very well for me.
GcDm2010 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Just install this app, and hit the button! Worked very well for me.
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I didn't think towelroot worked with the latest build of 4.4.2 ?
And doesn't odin now trip knox?
Inked_ said:
I didn't think towelroot worked with the latest build of 4.4.2 ? And doesn't odin now trip knox?
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Odin has always tripped knox.
Towelroot should work with 4.4.2. is worth a try, the worst thing that could happen is it kills the app and tells you that you've been compromised.
GcDm2010 said:
Odin has always tripped knox.
Towelroot should work with 4.4.2. is worth a try, the worst thing that could happen is it kills the app and tells you that you've been compromised.
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Thanks for the replies (I thought more people would be replying to this topic....lol)
I read that it was ok to use odin without tripping knox if you flashed an official Samsung firmware.
Ill look into towelroot again
So if it kills the app and says I've been compromised, what do I do then?
It will just try to kill the app. But if that happens, I don't know of any way to get around knox.
And this forum is where experienced people like me just come to raise my post count so I can post where the real action happens.
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It will just try to kill the app. But if that happens, I don't know of any way to get around knox.
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Ok thanks.
So it wont actually trip knox and I can just reboot the phone to get rid of the message?
GcDm2010 said:
And this forum is where experienced people like me just come to raise my post count so I can post where the real action happens.
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So where does the real action happen on here ?
Because I've made a few threads on here now but I don't seem to get many replies in any of them
Yeah, just hold the power button to reboot.
The real action here happens in the Unified Development section. Lots of activity going on right now.
My phone has just took the 5.0 update so I guess I've got no chance of rooting it without tripping knox now

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