Is the OFFICAL 4.4 KitKat ATT update TW? Also, as silly as it sounds, can you just run the one-click leaked 4.4 right over a rooted SG4 running a AOSP ROM?
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Yes. Samsung is not likely to give up TW anytime soon unfortunately. Someone out there must actually like it.
No. Well, you could but then you can kiss AOSP goodbye forever.
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Also depends on if your on a locked boot loader with Knox like mf3 or mk2. I don't know if you could flash the leak. But I do know as stated above if your boot loader isn't locked it will be after flashing it. If your not on safe stap there are plenty of ROMs built off the 4.4 leak like shostock that won't lock your boot loader
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Also depends on if your on a locked boot loader with Knox like mf3 or mk2. I don't know if you could flash the leak. But I do know as stated above if your boot loader isn't locked it will be after flashing it. If your not on safe stap there are plenty of ROMs built off the 4.4 leak like shostock that won't lock your boot loader
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Thanks, I'm on MDL but I didn't know ShoShock was 4.4 TW, I'll just use that!
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So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
If you're talking about stock ota, then no if you have a custom recovery
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So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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thats what i am doing.
Hey, I have the Samsung galaxy s4 and I have been rooted for about 3 months. I heard the Bootloader for the att variant is locked, but every time I boot my phone up, it shows samsung logo and under that it shows a lock which is unlocked and under it it says custom. Does this mean my Bootloader is unlocked or is this for everyone? My baseband version is I337UCUAMDB.
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Hey, I have the Samsung galaxy s4 and I have been rooted for about 3 months. I heard the Bootloader for the att variant is locked, but every time I boot my phone up, it shows samsung logo and under that it shows a lock which is unlocked and under it it says custom. Does this mean my Bootloader is unlocked or is this for everyone? My baseband version is I337UCUAMDB.
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It does it for everyone that is rooted the bootloader is still locked but there is a way to remove that.Here is how http://androidtechy.com/index.php/v...icon-after-rooting-the-samsung-galaxy-s4.html and before someone else tells you so you know questions have to go in Q/A section.
An easier way IMO, flash a stock att mf3 ROM that has stock kernal then use triangle away.
This ROM works, just Loki doki after flashing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364635
Then use triangle away.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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An easier way IMO, flash a stock att mf3 ROM that has stock kernal then use triangle away.
This ROM works, just Loki doki after flashing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364635
Then use triangle away.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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But if you do that, you won't be able to install custom ROMs without safestrap, so if you have any interest in CM/AOSP Roms, leave it alone...
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You just flash the ROM through cwm or twrp does not flash boot loaders there for you can still use aosp Roms. The ROM I linked is safe to flash and keep root and custom recovery.
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Only thing is to do what I posted he would have to be on MDL bootloaders not MDB.
I'm rooted with Philz CWM Touch and running GoldenEye with Faux13. I don't have that splash screen....
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But if you do that, you won't be able to install custom ROMs without safestrap, so if you have any interest in CM/AOSP Roms, leave it alone...
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I've got the unlock customs logo as well, does that mean my boot loader isnt locked? I thought it was.
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No it means you've flashed a kernel or ROM that tripped the custom firmware counter. The use of triangle away is that it resets that counter back to zero and give you the standard Galaxy S4 splash screen
I found this fix in one of the threads. Not sure if it will work for you, but it did for me and I'm on MF3.
1. Update SuperSU app
2. Launch app and update binary
3. Reboot
4. Download and launch Root Explorer (or another file manager that can access system files)
5. Navigate to a folder called "/system/xbin"
4. Delete ONLY files in that folder with the word "busybox" within its filename or symlink path. You should end up with three files left.
5. Reboot
(Probably don't have to Reboot on Step 3, but I did it to see if custom boot screen was gone... it wasn't... so I included it in my steps.)
Found it. Credit goes to ou812bkewl. Here was the post... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44495559&postcount=39
Questions and help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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Thanks
FNM
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No it means you've flashed a kernel or ROM that tripped the custom firmware counter. The use of triangle away is that it resets that counter back to zero and give you the standard Galaxy S4 splash screen
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The reason why I asked if I'm locked down is because, one of the replies said if the op uses one of the methods to remove the padlock screen than he'd than be forced to use SS to flash roms. Don't we need to anyway?
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The only time you would run that risk is if you Odin back to stock MDL and took the MF3 ota. Flashing a ROM is safe with no risk of bootloaders or basebands locking anything.
Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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Alright thanks will do
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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sacramento458 said:
You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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Not to sure but as long as you're on stock ROM and stock kernel you should be fine although I don't know if custom recovery keeps you from getting update.
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playya said:
you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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Absolutely bro
You do have to be on stock recovery, stock bootloader for the update to go thru properly otherwise it'll fail.
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
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The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
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The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
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Here a direct link for stock kernel 0.84 from JWR66V factory image
http://d-h.st/cIJ
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recover?
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Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery?
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maritimesbob said:
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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I'm sure that radio doesn't affect your ability to flash certain ROMs so you shouldn't have a problem flashing 4.4. As far as losing SD data not sure how that's happening.
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In the Att all thing mk2 nb1 section it has all this ROMs that are all 4.4.2 based but I wasn't sure if they would work and could be flashed over a nb1 ROM in another slot
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jsimsfour said:
In the Att all thing mk2 nb1 section it has all this ROMs that are all 4.4.2 based but I wasn't sure if they would work and could be flashed over a nb1 ROM in another slot
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To be on this forum and understand your phone you got to do some reading. This question has been made hundred of times. When i join this forum they would be really nasty for asking the same question over and over.
I will give you an answer anyway.
Since you have one of the latest builds. AT&T has locked the bootloader which makes very hard the process of rooting and installing custom roms. In other words you can only flash TW roms.
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To be on this forum and understand your phone you got to do some reading. This question has been made hundred of times. When i join this forum they would be really nasty for asking the same question over and over.
I will give you an answer anyway.
Since you have one of the latest builds. AT&T has locked the bootloader which makes very hard the process of rooting and installing custom roms. In other words you can only flash TW roms.
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Yes i knew that nb1, mk2, and mf3, all have lock bootloaders which mean i can only flash tw based roms. I was asking if the others like nc8 nc9 build numbers are like variants of nb1 or something like that since they are listed under 4.4.2 tw based roms. now im thinking that those are for people who had what ever build came before mf3 that can use loki to flash the latest roms.lease tell me if im wrong.
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Yes i knew that nb1, mk2, and mf3, all have lock bootloaders which mean i can only flash tw based roms. I was asking if the others like nc8 nc9 build numbers are like variants of nb1 or something like that since they are listed under 4.4.2 tw based roms. now im thinking that those are for people who had what ever build came before mf3 that can use loki to flash the latest roms.lease tell me if im wrong.
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You can flash any build that is the same android version. The only thing that people with Loki get are AOSP ROMs. Other bases like nc9 and others are still Touchwiz.
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You can flash any build that is the same android version. The only thing that people with Loki get are AOSP ROMs. Other bases like nc9 and others are still Touchwiz.
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OK and if a rom has I9505 for the model of the s4 I can flash that from as long as it to based and I flash the 1337 kernel ?
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OK and if a rom has I9505 for the model of the s4 I can flash that from as long as it to based and I flash the 1337 kernel ?
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Yes. Any Touchwiz ROM from any S4 except the 8 core I9500 will work.
I have spent some weeks with a new NC1 GS4 bootloader. Are developers working on a way to fix the issue with Knox preventing WiFi driver from loading?
I see patches for 4.3 floating around but not 4.4.
This is a real issue. Just wanted to know if developers are aware of it and if anyone is working on a patch we can flash via Odin?
I have another gs4 with mdj boot loader and I have no issues at all with WiFi not loading on boot.
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I have spent some weeks with a new NC1 GS4 bootloader. Are developers working on a way to fix the issue with Knox preventing WiFi driver from loading?
I see patches for 4.3 floating around but not 4.4.
This is a real issue. Just wanted to know if developers are aware of it and if anyone is working on a patch we can flash via Odin?
I have another gs4 with mdj boot loader and I have no issues at all with WiFi not loading on boot.
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What exactly are you having issues with? If you mean getting Wi-Fi on a 4.4.2 ROM with the NC1 bootloader, all you need to do is flash the kernel modules for whatever kernel you're on in Safestrap. Other than that I don't know what other issue you'd have.
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Thanks for reaching out, im currently not using safestrap
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Can you help me with your suggestion?
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The phone I'm having issues with is an unlocked booootloader but is Knox 0x1
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It looks like safe strap on works on at&t and Verizon. Do you experience any WiFi issues on you setup with safe strap?
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It looks like safe strap on works on at&t and Verizon. Do you experience any WiFi issues on you setup with safe strap?
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No, I haven't had any issues unless it was broken in the ROM itself. For you I'd recommend using ODIN to flash NB1 first though, and hopefully that would fix your problem. Then you can OTA back to NC1 or downgrade to MK2 for root.
I have a Canadian unlocked boot loader fw are different for me. Unfortunately I can only downgrade to NC1 ATM which comes with 4.4.2. I did try upgrading to NE1 but issue was still there once I rooted and custom so I decided to downgrade back to NE1.
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So I found solution to my problem. If you have a new boot loader 4.4.2 and you want a stable custom ROM with WiFi, then a custom touch wiz ROM is what you need to install preferably a custom ROM based off of the same fw as installed bootloader. I guess the issue is Asop and GE ROMs were never designed to work with a unlocked Knox bootloader ? I find that this these pure android roms have wifi issue not working intermittently.
Buyer beware: intermittent WiFi issue on Knox boot loader is solved by flashing a custom touch wiz ROM based on boot loader fw.
If your thinking about buying a new gs4 with knox boot oader be sure that your okay with living with touch wiz custom ROMs but if you don't care about working WiFi then your still free to flash pure android.
Hopefully this changes in the future
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