Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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sacramento458 said:
Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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Alright thanks will do
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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sacramento458 said:
You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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Not to sure but as long as you're on stock ROM and stock kernel you should be fine although I don't know if custom recovery keeps you from getting update.
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playya said:
you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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sacramento458 said:
Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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Absolutely bro
You do have to be on stock recovery, stock bootloader for the update to go thru properly otherwise it'll fail.
Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
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The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
Tricepz said:
The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
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Here a direct link for stock kernel 0.84 from JWR66V factory image
http://d-h.st/cIJ
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recover?
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Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery?
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maritimesbob said:
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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I'm sure that radio doesn't affect your ability to flash certain ROMs so you shouldn't have a problem flashing 4.4. As far as losing SD data not sure how that's happening.
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Hi all,
Browsing through the 4.2.2 threads I keep on seeing the baseband and bootloader discussed and now I'm wondering if the latest baseband and bootloader are installed when you for example flash a rooted and deodexed factory 4.2.2 .zip.
Thanks in advance.
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Remcotjuuh said:
Hi all,
Browsing through the 4.2.2 threads I keep on seeing the baseband and bootloader discussed and now I'm wondering if the latest baseband and bootloader are installed when you for example flash a rooted and deodexed factory 4.2.2 .zip.
Thanks in advance.
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Most likely, yes. Why wouldn't they be? Easy enough to check with you download the ZIP. Just open it and see what's included.
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Most likely, yes. Why wouldn't they be? Easy enough to check with you download the ZIP. Just open it and see what's included.
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Radio and bootloader are not updated by flashing a 4.2.2 stock zip.
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Radio and bootloader are not updated by flashing a 4.2.2 stock zip.
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Ok fair, not when flashing the actual "ZIP" itself. But I consider it all one and the same when going from a version upgrade. Flash bootloader, flash radio, flash zip. My interpretation of the upgrade was just different.
Okay, thanks for the replies. Any reason why they aren't included and are they in for example an AOKP or CM build?
No one knows a reason why? I can confirm they aren't present in CM btw.
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They are not included in ROM's because people like to use different radios and bootloaders. Just go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147194
Download the zip that includes both the baseband and bootloader and flash via recovery (TWRP/CWM).
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I've seen quite a bit about updating boot loader and radio before v flashing 4.2.2, but what about the other way around? Do i have to flash 4.2.1 boot loader and radio or am i good? Thanks in advance
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45 views and no one has tried this?
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I dont' understand your question
opticaldh said:
I dont' understand your question
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Before rooting i did the ota to 4.2.2. In all the threads it says if you haven't done the ota you need to flash 4.2.2 bootloader and radio before flashing 4.2.2 roms. So if i wanted to flash a 4.2.1 rom coming from a 4.2.2 rom, do i have to flash the 4.2.1 bootloader and radio or will it work with the 4.2.2 radio and bootloader? Hope this clarifies. And thank you
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Before rooting i did the ota to 4.2.2. In all the threads it says if you haven't done the ota you need to flash 4.2.2 bootloader and radio before flashing 4.2.2 roms. So if i wanted to flash a 4.2.1 rom coming from a 4.2.2 rom, do i have to flash the 4.2.1 bootloader and radio or will it work with the 4.2.2 radio and bootloader? Hope this clarifies. And thank you
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OK, that's clear. Sorry for my English
First, I used to update to 4.2.2 without updating my bootloader, I just updated my baseband because the Microphone and the Earpiece didn't wok without it (at least, that was my situation).
Second. I dont understand why you rollback to 4.2.1, but if you want to, just keep the 4.2.2 bootloader and baseband. That's OK. Hopefully.
opticaldh said:
OK, that's clear. Sorry for my English
First, I used to update to 4.2.2 without updating my bootloader, I just updated my baseband because the Microphone and the Earpiece didn't wok without it (at least, that was my situation).
Second. I dont understand why you rollback to 4.2.1, but if you want to, just keep the 4.2.2 bootloader and baseband. That's OK. Hopefully.
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I just want to try out some ROMs that haven't been updated to 4.2.2 yet, like raspbean jelly or baked black bean, but i can't find info on if you have to flash the baseband and boot loader with it
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Motorola device manager says that there are updates available for my razr m. I'm wary to update "OTA" because I dont want to loose root/bootloader.
I'm pretty happy with the stock ROM (still called motoblur?) Is there a stock rooted rom with all the radio updates and security stuff thats the latest version?
The only other android phone I had was a sprint HTC EVO. That phone it seemed would always have a stock rooted ROM based on the newest updates. Is that the case with the RAZR M?
Thanks for the help and any info that can be provided guys.
Love this phone =)
Franteeko said:
Motorola device manager says that there are updates available for my razr m. I'm wary to update "OTA" because I dont want to loose root/bootloader.
I'm pretty happy with the stock ROM (still called motoblur?) Is there a stock rooted rom with all the radio updates and security stuff thats the latest version?
The only other android phone I had was a sprint HTC EVO. That phone it seemed would always have a stock rooted ROM based on the newest updates. Is that the case with the RAZR M?
Thanks for the help and any info that can be provided guys.
Love this phone =)
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Follow my routine here better then stock like a russian/ Australia ota
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246081
I don't really want anything but stock rooted latest update ROM. Am I safe to just take the OTA?
I am rooted with unlocked BL.
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Franteeko said:
I don't really want anything but stock rooted latest update ROM. Am I safe to just take the OTA?
I am rooted with unlocked BL.
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Yes
Do it from stock recovery.
See my xperia launcher page for steps in the rom mgr link
Franteeko said:
I don't really want anything but stock rooted latest update ROM. Am I safe to just take the OTA?
I am rooted with unlocked BL.
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Yeah, take the update, you'll probably need stock recovery to do it, and then re-root or you can just flash one of these: http://batakang.com/ftp/?dir=devs/mhous33/XT907 . The first zip can be flashed in recovery and the other is for RSD. You'll need to root these too, but that's easy enough if you're unlocked.
Okay I have safe strap recovery 4.33 or something like that. Where can I download the stock recovery?
I seem to remember clockwork was able to hot swap recoveries. Would that be a good method for swapping to stock then back to safe strap?
Also, do I just download the OTA in zip form? If so, where can I find it at?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks to everyone helping me with this.
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Franteeko said:
Okay I have safe strap recovery 4.33 or something like that. Where can I download the stock recovery?
I seem to remember clockwork was able to hot swap recoveries. Would that be a good method for swapping to stock then back to safe strap?
Also, do I just download the OTA in zip form? If so, where can I find it at?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks to everyone helping me with this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
Attached has recovery & see rom Mgr link for ota steps
Okay I have the stock recovery downloaded. What is the best way to flash it? Can I flash stock recovery from within TWRP?
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Okay I have the stock recovery downloaded. What is the best way to flash it? Can I flash stock recovery from within TWRP?
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Yes.
For the life of me I can't figure out how to do that. I've nosed around everywhere in safestrap and can't find where to go to flash stock recovery. You have been a lot of help already man thank you.
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Could you just fast boot it... fastboot flash recovery "filename"... like you would twrp.... I really have no idea...
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Thank you I'll try that.
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Yeah, I haven't found a stock recovery.img that's flashable. Just flash the stock recovery.img in fastboot, exactly the same way you loaded up TWRP.
I took the ota with twrp installed and unlocked BL. It flashed and at the end twrp asked if I wanted to fix root, I selected yes and kept root. I was wary in doing it by reading the forums, afraid I was going to lose root, but it stayed. I'm now using stock ROM with arrrgh kernel and seeder. Its running extremely smooth.
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Yeah, I haven't found a stock recovery.img that's flashable. Just flash the stock recovery.img in fastboot, exactly the same way you loaded up TWRP.
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As posted previously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
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As posted previously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
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I don't see a stock recovery in there.
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I don't see a stock recovery in there.
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I was cleaning up & deleted it. Fixed.
Where can I find arrggh kernal and seeder?
Okay so because of a previous response on this thread, I took the OTA. I had TWRP, root, and unlocked BL.
After the update, TWRP appears to be gone along with safestrap. I think my bootloader is still unlocked but I'm not sure how to tell.
Can someone please tell me how to get root back and how to get my customer recovery back? I am having such a hard time with this phone getting it to work properly. I remember with my EVO I had it down to a science but I've forgotten a lot of steps and many things have changed since then.
I need like a noob guide I think lol.
To reiterate, got latest OTA. My bootloader is still unlocked as far as I know. Need root and custom recovery back. Thanks XDA.
Next is flashing the arggh kernal and seeder I guess. First things first though.
Should have used voodoo. Now just fastboot cwmr img & flash UPDATESU both on my goodies page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
You can extract the img out of the zip.
I haven't update 4.3 yet but I want to try out the latest PA rom. Should I just wait until it becomes stable or just factory restore and head into 4.3 and root. Also does nandroid works on Android 4.3 or i am going to lose everything?
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I think this is more of your dilemma than an actual issue.
As long as your custom recovery works, nandroid should work.
Should you wait till it becomes stable? Up to you.
Just factory restore and head into 4.3? Up to you.
I dont see why you would wanna OTA to 4.3 and then flash PA. Why not just flash PA straight?
I use Multi Boot. PA is a solid ROM. CM10.2 is too. I boot between them. If I stayed with stock not possible to do this.
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I think this is more of your dilemma than an actual issue.
As long as your custom recovery works, nandroid should work.
Should you wait till it becomes stable? Up to you.
Just factory restore and head into 4.3? Up to you.
I dont see why you would wanna OTA to 4.3 and then flash PA. Why not just flash PA straight?
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I thought you have to ota 4.3 then update to the latest PA
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I thought you have to ota 4.3 then update to the latest PA
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Nope. If you flash the latest PA, you would be wiping your ota-ed 4.3. So there would be no difference at all. You do however, need to flash your new radio for 4.3
Hey there,
Is there a known way to revert back to 4.2.2 rom from the new Kit Kat update from Tmo? I want to flash the PAC Rom for this and can't because there is no TWRP or other way of a custom recovery as of yet on this update. Makes me sad. I actually am on a rooted stock rom at this point. Just no custom recovery. Thanks for any help.
You can use this guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476) to downgrade to a version where custom recovery is possible and you will be able to flash pac
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I know there's a way to do it but based on this thread we may be seeing a solution that allows custom recovery with 4.4.2 soon . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667227
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NolenUmar said:
I know there's a way to do it but based on this thread we may be seeing a solution that allows custom recovery with 4.4.2 soon . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667227
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I've been following the thread and the way I see it is even if the way there making recovery works we who are on kit Kat still need to use the flash tool to go to jelly bean and flash a modified kit Kat that will allow custom recoveries
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True. I'm just hoping it isn't so locked down that we can't use other custom kernels. But thanks for the link, I'll be getting my G2 in two days and that info was relevant to my interests.
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You guys are soo awesome. I will hopefully be AOSP in just a few hours... :thumbup:
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Well, as it turns out not so fast. I am trying to use the flash tool and am getting all sorts of errors. This is crazy I am contemplating returning this one to the Tmobile store and getting a replacement ( still inside the 14 day window. lol ) The replacement would still have 4.2.2 .. lol I hate being locked down. I die inside a little.