[Q] Baseband and Bootloader separate? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Browsing through the 4.2.2 threads I keep on seeing the baseband and bootloader discussed and now I'm wondering if the latest baseband and bootloader are installed when you for example flash a rooted and deodexed factory 4.2.2 .zip.
Thanks in advance.
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Remcotjuuh said:
Hi all,
Browsing through the 4.2.2 threads I keep on seeing the baseband and bootloader discussed and now I'm wondering if the latest baseband and bootloader are installed when you for example flash a rooted and deodexed factory 4.2.2 .zip.
Thanks in advance.
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Most likely, yes. Why wouldn't they be? Easy enough to check with you download the ZIP. Just open it and see what's included.

asawoszc said:
Most likely, yes. Why wouldn't they be? Easy enough to check with you download the ZIP. Just open it and see what's included.
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Radio and bootloader are not updated by flashing a 4.2.2 stock zip.
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mitchdickson said:
Radio and bootloader are not updated by flashing a 4.2.2 stock zip.
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Ok fair, not when flashing the actual "ZIP" itself. But I consider it all one and the same when going from a version upgrade. Flash bootloader, flash radio, flash zip. My interpretation of the upgrade was just different.

Okay, thanks for the replies. Any reason why they aren't included and are they in for example an AOKP or CM build?

No one knows a reason why? I can confirm they aren't present in CM btw.
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They are not included in ROM's because people like to use different radios and bootloaders. Just go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147194
Download the zip that includes both the baseband and bootloader and flash via recovery (TWRP/CWM).
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Stock ROM zip file?

Is there any stock ROM zip file for recovery flash?
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Miracle.vl63 said:
Is there any stock ROM zip file for recovery flash?
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Not one you flash in cwm.
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Oww I meant a stock ROM zip file that can be flashed in recovery mode.. sorry for my english
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Miracle.vl63 said:
Oww I meant a stock ROM zip file that can be flashed in recovery mode.. sorry for my english
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Nope- sorry.
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Emmm... them is there any computer program that upgrades firmware? Like Samsung Kies
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Miracle.vl63 said:
Is there any stock ROM zip file for recovery flash?
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Are you thinking of this possibly? https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasijro03d
Kind of, but they arent recovery flashable..
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This is stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929270
You can select root or not when installing, it uses aroma installer.
I would flash the odexed rather than de-odexed as I read that some people have issues with that.
Here is the latest bootloader, I flashed this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1928915
Also the toolkits (stickied in development section) have the ability to do a stock rom. That's not from recovery though.
stonebear said:
This is stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929270
You can select root or not when installing, it uses aroma installer.
I would flash the odexed rather than de-odexed as I read that some people have issues with that.
Here is the latest bootloader, I flashed this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1928915
Also the toolkits (stickied in development section) have the ability to do a stock rom. That's not from recovery though.
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Do they suport the official OTA?
And does the offical OTA also upgrades the bootloader?
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Help upgrading nexus 4 from 4.2.2 to 4.3

Hi, I own a rooted nexus 4 currently running 4.2.2, I just tried to install CM 10.2 and it went to a boot loop, so I restored a backup and its stock again (with cwm recovery)...
What should I do? What can I be doing wrong?
Sergio, computer no work what wrong?
Flash the new 4.3 bootloader and radio using cwm. Then do a full wipe and flash your 4.3 ROM of choice.
Downloads: bootloader and radio.
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Chromium_ said:
Flash the new 4.3 bootloader and radio using cwm. Then do a full wipe and flash your 4.3 ROM of choice.
Downloads: bootloader and radio.
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Thanks, I'll try that
I bet if I did my own searching I probably would have found that.
With just an easy Google search.
Please use the search functions to find the existing threads to comment in.
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Upgrading to 4.4 kit Kat

Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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sacramento458 said:
Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
aanonymoushuman said:
Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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Alright thanks will do
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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playya said:
my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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sacramento458 said:
You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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Not to sure but as long as you're on stock ROM and stock kernel you should be fine although I don't know if custom recovery keeps you from getting update.
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playya said:
you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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sacramento458 said:
Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
playya said:
no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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Absolutely bro
You do have to be on stock recovery, stock bootloader for the update to go thru properly otherwise it'll fail.
Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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RASTAVIPER said:
If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
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The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
Tricepz said:
The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
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Here a direct link for stock kernel 0.84 from JWR66V factory image
http://d-h.st/cIJ
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recover?
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Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery?
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maritimesbob said:
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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I'm sure that radio doesn't affect your ability to flash certain ROMs so you shouldn't have a problem flashing 4.4. As far as losing SD data not sure how that's happening.
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[Q] I need assistance please!

I want to update my i9505 to the latest android 4.3 through Odin but I don't want the new Knox bootloader, could someone please give me any instructions of how I could achieve this? I don't want to install the "custom" stock roms.
*EDIT*: Could someone also give me instructions on how to compile the edited firmware.
I tried to Google it but to no avail.
I shall be grateful to anyone who helps.
This thread will be useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
In order to remain on your old bootloader you will need to root. Any reason why you don't want to? Root, install a custom recovery then flash the pre rooted rom. They are stock based.
nikzDHD said:
This thread will be useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
In order to remain on your old bootloader you will need to root. Any reason why you don't want to? Root, install a custom recovery then flash the pre rooted rom. They are stock based.
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Thank you for your reply, I'm rooted with custom recovery. However I wish to create myself a Odin copy for emergency purposes, I currently have the official MGA firmware update for Odin. I want to create a Odin flash-able firmware update without the new bootloader,
EDIT: After going through the thread all the firmware files include the new know bootloader ;(
As far as I know you can't flash via odin. I suggest you flash the CWM version this has no bootloader. As your already rooted using the knox free cwm version is the safest bet at the moment.
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nikzDHD said:
As far as I know you can't flash via odin. I suggest you flash the CWM version this has no bootloader. As your already rooted using the knox free cwm version is the safest bet at the moment.
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Does the flashable one contain the modem and everything?
Thank you for replying.
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Battlehero said:
Does the flashable one contain the modem and everything?
Thank you for replying.
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No modem, you can install that separately via Odin as we can't flash modems using CWM. It contains stock rom and stock kernel.
nikzDHD said:
No modem, you can install that separately via Odin as we can't flash modems using CWM. It contains stock rom and stock kernel.
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Ok thank you for your assistance.
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(Q) Cm 11/AOSP after 4.4.2 bootloader update

Does anyone know, is it possible to flash a Cm 11 type rom, after we have upgraded to the Samsung 4.4.2 firmware with the new bootloader?
Are we able to flash the currently available roms, or do we need to wait for them to make changes to the kernel etc
Many thanks in advance
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Cannot flash CM roms currently due to them being based on MJ7 bootloader. Need to wait to see *if* they update for new bootloader.. but seems unlikely at the mo.
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Has the situation changed? Is there some way I can check?
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Has the situation changed? Is there some way I can check?
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Yes. Check cm11 thread

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