Should I update and root Android 4.3 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I haven't update 4.3 yet but I want to try out the latest PA rom. Should I just wait until it becomes stable or just factory restore and head into 4.3 and root. Also does nandroid works on Android 4.3 or i am going to lose everything?
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I think this is more of your dilemma than an actual issue.
As long as your custom recovery works, nandroid should work.
Should you wait till it becomes stable? Up to you.
Just factory restore and head into 4.3? Up to you.
I dont see why you would wanna OTA to 4.3 and then flash PA. Why not just flash PA straight?

I use Multi Boot. PA is a solid ROM. CM10.2 is too. I boot between them. If I stayed with stock not possible to do this.
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exb0 said:
I think this is more of your dilemma than an actual issue.
As long as your custom recovery works, nandroid should work.
Should you wait till it becomes stable? Up to you.
Just factory restore and head into 4.3? Up to you.
I dont see why you would wanna OTA to 4.3 and then flash PA. Why not just flash PA straight?
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I thought you have to ota 4.3 then update to the latest PA
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xmagiicsx said:
I thought you have to ota 4.3 then update to the latest PA
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Nope. If you flash the latest PA, you would be wiping your ota-ed 4.3. So there would be no difference at all. You do however, need to flash your new radio for 4.3

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OTA update with 3rd party kernels

I am currently running FraNco.Kernel R38 and was wondering how I go about updating to the newest version of android when it releases. Would I do an ota update and be fine or would I have to flash the whole ROM and lose all my stuff?
Would I be able to use cwm or twrp and restore just the data?
Still new to android and was having a hard time finding this with search.
Thank you so much!
Adam
Edit: running stock Jellybean 4.2.1
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Bump pl0x
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Will 4.3 remove the LTE featured I flashed on 4.2.2

Thanks in advance guys!
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It will. 4.3 isn't fully compatible with the LTE enabled, older radio. People are messing with hybrid radios to fix the incompatibility issues, but that's still a work in process i.e. bugs.
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cheapskate88 said:
It will. 4.3 isn't fully compatible with the LTE enabled, older radio. People are messing with hybrid radios to fix the incompatibility issues, but that's still a work in process i.e. bugs.
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No bugs on hybrid radio here...
Nexus 4+ Franco + LTE
Apparently, no more bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43969514
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My OTA update said 4.3 was ready to install, but when I clicked install nothing seemed to happen. I am rooted and have TWRP installed as my recovery. Any suggestions?
And now when I check for an update, my phone says I'm up to date but I'm still on 4.2.2.
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Cee_Pee_Three said:
My OTA update said 4.3 was ready to install, but when I clicked install nothing seemed to happen. I am rooted and have TWRP installed as my recovery. Any suggestions?
And now when I check for an update, my phone says I'm up to date but I'm still on 4.2.2.
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You have to do it manually by use fastboot method. OTA is not gonna work when you flash the TWRP as your Recovery.
2 method: 1. fastboot flash your recovery back to stock one OTA will work. 2. Flash your N4 with fastboot to get 4.3 ROM.
I went back to the stock 4.2.2 rom and I'm not rooted anymore, but now the stock recovery doesn't work. So how can I update to 4.3?
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Restore Apps after clean update to AOKP 4.3?

Hi, I'm currently running the last AOKP nightly based on JB4.2.2.
Every time I try to update to a more recent, 4.3.1 based version, I fail miserably
Even after a full wipe I get bootloops, the setup wizard crashes, or titanium backup fails to restore much needed (non-system) settings / apps. I get lots of freezes or random reboots along the way...
Am I the only person with such problems?! I found mentions that root is somewhat broken since 4.3 and that current root applications are still unfit to compensate... Is this true?
How can I update to a newer, AOKP based Rom? Is there a official or unofficial version that is stable enough to serve as daily driver? Do I need additional apks? How can I restore my titanium backups?
Thanks in advance!
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Did you flashed 4.3 radio (.84) and the latest version of bootloader?
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tiness said:
Did you flashed 4.3 radio (.84) and the latest version of bootloader?
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I flashed the .84 radio but have no new bootloader... Where can I get it? Can I still downgrade to 4.2.2 if the update fails?
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docNeptun said:
I flashed the .84 radio but have no new bootloader... Where can I get it? Can I still downgrade to 4.2.2 if the update fails?
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Here for the bootloader and if you have a backup of your 4.2.2 rom you are ok.
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Make sure you have the latest version of your Recovery and bootloader before flashing the rom.

Upgrading to 4.4 kit Kat

Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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sacramento458 said:
Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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Alright thanks will do
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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playya said:
my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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sacramento458 said:
You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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Not to sure but as long as you're on stock ROM and stock kernel you should be fine although I don't know if custom recovery keeps you from getting update.
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playya said:
you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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sacramento458 said:
Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
playya said:
no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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Absolutely bro
You do have to be on stock recovery, stock bootloader for the update to go thru properly otherwise it'll fail.
Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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RASTAVIPER said:
If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
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The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
Tricepz said:
The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
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Here a direct link for stock kernel 0.84 from JWR66V factory image
http://d-h.st/cIJ
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recover?
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Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery?
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maritimesbob said:
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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I'm sure that radio doesn't affect your ability to flash certain ROMs so you shouldn't have a problem flashing 4.4. As far as losing SD data not sure how that's happening.
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4.2.1 to 4.3 or 4.4?

Guys im using PA rom in android 4.2.1 and Im thinking of upgrading?what do I need to change? Do I need to upgrade my recovery? In order to flash custom roms for android 4.3/4.4?
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as i am aware you should update your bootloader, just to be sure everything works good, other than that you are good, just flash the rom via recovery, which i recommend you update
I seem to recall you had to update the radios as well going from .2 to .3
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