I am having few doubts regarding N9000.
N9000 is having exynos and other variants have snapdragon processor.SO why there is difference in processors for same vairant.Is snapdragon more powerful than exynos?
Also I am seeing a different thread for exynos note 3, why we are having different thread?Does it means that builds available in other treads are not meant for this device??
I am also not able to see any CM builds available for N9000 , any idea about that?
Both the chips are very powerful. According to some benchmarks they have similar score. The beauty of snapdragon processor is that it is capable of shooting 4k videos which exynos cant do.I guess snapdragon also supports LTE and that makes it different. The reason why there are no CM rom for N900 is because samsung hasn't released its source for CM team to work. Be patient. Its up to CM to decide wether to work on this model or not.
The roms from N9005 will not work with N900.
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Both the chips are very powerful. According to some benchmarks they have similar score. The beauty of snapdragon processor is that it is capable of shooting 4k videos which exynos cant do.I guess snapdragon also supports LTE and that makes it different. The reason why there are no CM rom for N900 is because samsung hasn't released its source for CM team to work. Be patient. Its up to CM to decide wether to work on this model or not.
The roms from N9005 will not work with N900.
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Samsung realesed some source codes I know. Because of that some kernels compiled and distributed in Exynos section.
What do you mean "hasn't released its source" ? Samsung distributed source codes to N9005 and didn't dist. to N900. Why?
I don't understand.
I suppose to N900 doesn't owned by any people who is capable being contributor on CM.
Would you like to inform about the codes?
Sincerely.
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Samsung realesed some source codes I know. Because of that some kernels compiled and distributed in Exynos section.
What do you mean "hasn't released its source" ? Samsung distributed source codes to N9005 and didn't dist. to N900. Why?
I don't understand.
I suppose to N900 doesn't owned by any people who is capable being contributor on CM.
Would you like to inform about the codes?
Sincerely.
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The Qualcomm source has to be released under the open source agreement as it's not Samsung's software/hardware. -- With the Exynos source it's Samsungs own software/hardware therefore they don't have to release all or any of it to anyone.
Any chance of getting these CM builds for N900??? Its being long time now..
It'll be longer yet.. CM not even started on the source.. And that's assuming they have it.
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Hey there!
As most of the XDA-readers have heard of before, there is a high amount of developers (e.g. from the mighty CM team) ditching samsung devices (S3, Note etc) because of the still missing sources.
As the Nexus 10 is using an 1,7GHz Dual-Core Exynos 5250-Prozessor with ARM Cortex-A15 (and as I´m standing pretty near to the noob community when it comes down to such a topic), I´m wondering if this device will ever get a "respectful" developer support, as it is normally extected with nexus devices.
give samsung sometime to release it
I agree. This has been a problem with all exynos devices. I even saw where some developers won't touch them because of that. I hope this changes
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To be skeptical, I've only seen promises to release Exynos 4, not 5.
They will be releasing by the end 2012 source code for exynos 4, they didnt mention anything about exynos 5. Maybe they will release source code for exynos 5 when they launch exynos 6. Thanks samsung
I thought nexus devices had all the source code released for the hardware and software in the devices. Am I wrong thinking this?
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I thought nexus devices had all the source code released for the hardware and software in the devices. Am I wrong thinking this?
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That's not necessarily true, for example the Nexus 7 doesn't have full documentation for the Tegra 3 chip.
Also, regarding documentation for the 5250, this thread has been opened and it seems there's PDF documentation for it already.
So does this mean there likely will not be any custom ROMs [Cyanogenmod, AOKP, AOSP, etc]? Or what? Or they will just be modified stock versions? :S
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So does this mean there likely will not be any custom ROMs [Cyanogenmod, AOKP, AOSP, etc]? Or what? Or they will just be modified stock versions? :S
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Even if the source code is unavailable, the blobs needed to run AOSP-based versions (CM, AOKP, etc. etc.) are there, so no need to worry.
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They will be releasing by the end 2012 source code for exynos 4, they didnt mention anything about exynos 5. Maybe they will release source code for exynos 5 when they launch exynos 6. Thanks samsung
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can you provide the source of this information
thanks
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Even if the source code is unavailable, the blobs needed to run AOSP-based versions (CM, AOKP, etc. etc.) are there, so no need to worry.
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This...
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This...
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uhm...."this" is the content of your second post on this board? (scnr)
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uhm...."this" is the content of your second post on this board? (scnr)
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Does it matter? But no, I had another account, no longer have access to it. (better? -__- ) I'm a themer... not a noob. -__-
Samsung will probably release it, they did notice members from Team Hacksung and Cyanogenmod complaining about the lack of source codes and will release them late this year.
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Does it matter? But no, I had another account, don't use it. I'm a themer... not a noob. -__-
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It's against the TOS to have multiple accounts.
I remember reading awhile ago an interview with one of the CM developers saying that he's sick of samsung not updating/releasing their exynos codes and as such he stopped develpoing for samsung devices.
As i'm looking to upgrade my s2 to a new phone I'm wondering if we'll see better support from samsung for the developers this time.
any thoughts?
two words- ignore exynos
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I remember reading awhile ago an interview with one of the CM developers saying that he's sick of samsung not updating/releasing their exynos codes and as such he stopped develpoing for samsung devices.
As i'm looking to upgrade my s2 to a new phone I'm wondering if we'll see better support from samsung for the developers this time.
any thoughts?
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i9505 is a much better choice if you want the stock Android experience. Don't know if you missed it, but Google are launching a Google Edition of the S4(SD600 version), which means it'll be much better supported than the i9500.
yeah just a shame that the exynos version is the only version you can buy in some country's(mine included)
would be much easier buying that one over the GE one!
check areas of custom rom, there more for exynos.
lol I got the qualcom version. haven't seen exynos version is that the I9500 ?
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lol I got the qualcom version. haven't seen exynos version is that the I9500 ?
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Exynos version is i9500 (plus I believe one Korean version and one Chinese version). Which so far has no CM/AOSP support whatsoever. All of the former Exynos CM maintainers have stopped working with Samsungs, leaving only those who worked with Snapdragon-based Samsungs (of which there were quite a few...) still working on Samsung devices. So far not a single person with a track record of doing good CM bringups/maintenance has stated their intention to touch the Exynos variant.
Snapdragon versions are I9505, I337, M919, not sure what the Verizon and Sprint versions are. M919 got CM support from Cyanogen himself within a day or two of launch, and all other Snapdragon versions are just needing maintainers. Of the Snapdragon versions, the I9505 seems to be getting the least attention. (Except for maybe the bootloader-locked I337...) But the I9505 can leverage M919 and other Snapdragon work, the Exynos version stands on its own, sharing nothing with any other device.
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Exynos version is i9500 (plus I believe one Korean version and one Chinese version). Which so far has no CM/AOSP support whatsoever. All of the former Exynos CM maintainers have stopped working with Samsungs, leaving only those who worked with Snapdragon-based Samsungs (of which there were quite a few...) still working on Samsung devices. So far not a single person with a track record of doing good CM bringups/maintenance has stated their intention to touch the Exynos variant.
Snapdragon versions are I9505, I337, M919, not sure what the Verizon and Sprint versions are. M919 got CM support from Cyanogen himself within a day or two of launch, and all other Snapdragon versions are just needing maintainers. Of the Snapdragon versions, the I9505 seems to be getting the least attention. (Except for maybe the bootloader-locked I337...) But the I9505 can leverage M919 and other Snapdragon work, the Exynos version stands on its own, sharing nothing with any other device.
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some people are trying port cm to exynos but with no samsung support must be painful, samething happen with gs3
When I buy my GS3 When release the development was to high ci only see now 2 or 4 roms why so poor ?? Other fee grear kernels like franco siyah kernel now only have 2 custom kernels
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what version of s4 you have ?
There are quite a few stock ROMs for the I9500 but, in terms of CM10.1 and the like, you will need to wait until someone gets around to overcoming the closed source nature of Exynos the phone contains.
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He has the I9500 as posted by tapatalk sig. The I9505 will have greater development. But it's still relatively new for both models anyway.
U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
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If you want developer support you have to stay away from Exynos. Samsung is an a..hole S4 will be my last Samsung device.
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The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
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It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.
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It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.
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Coming from a CM member that must be really depressing news for I9500 owners who would rather not be on Touchwiz.
I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad.. the stock version is very lagy in comparing to the HTC
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I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad..
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Blame Samsung.
1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do
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1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do
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1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3
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1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3
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thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?
So does that mean we are not going to see AOKP on i9500 soon. I love AOKPs and am cursing myself for not buying the i9505 as it was available. Smartphone is no joy without AOKP.
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thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?
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this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
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this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
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this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?
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this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?
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yes but it should give you an idea about it
We all miss AOKP!
Hello guys, an Android / xda developers n00b here...
The Octo Core GT-I9500 was the only choice here since it's the only S4 model shipped in my country so I'm a bit frustrated too about the AOKP thing - which I learned it may well be the next big thing after CyanogenMOD itself.
I'm about to flash Arrow ROM right now which seems pretty interesting and also will give Omega ROM a try, while we can't put our dirty hands on AOKP we surely have two really nice mods to play with
As such, I'm all years about your experiences - if any - with any of these two ROMs.
Cheers
so no aokp coming soon?
even GS3 got aopk faster
Comon people please help
Comon i need answersssss
Comon what goes on there are any news?
Where is aopk for s4
what goes on
learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..
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learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..
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i did, and found nothing
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i did, and found nothing
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If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Gillion said:
If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Or what is more or less the same thing: it will not get faster no matter how much you stand still looking at it!
(and, btw, this is just what's happening to me reloading the site every 5' min awaiting for the imminent release of Arrow ROM 4.0, lol!)
In general thread of i9500 and i9505 a thread exist s about cm development for i9500 some good info there!
Plz where i can download CM11 for G900H
Do you have any reason to believe that CM 11 exists for the 900H?
I haven't seen anything that indicates it is even planned. The CM 11 thread here clearly states Qualcomm support only for the S5. And the requests that I have seen to support the 900H on the Cyanogenmod site have gone unreplied.
Team Hacksung was very reluctant to support the Exynos S4. And it was only recently that forthcoming support for the Exynos N3 was announced. The 900H is a niche device and as such, probably none of the CyanogenMod Developers own one. Which would make it exceedingly hard to develop for even if there was a desire to do so.
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Nobody at Team Hacksung (the team behind Galaxy S2, Note, S3, Note2, G Tabs… official CM ports) plans to buy it, neither develop for it. There are two variants which will be a pain to maintain, [and] the bugs we have on the S3 will probably be there on S4, too (camera), and we all know Samsung ability to release sources while staying in line with mainline. Yes Qualcomm releases sources, but Exynos sources we had were far from [working on] actual Galaxy products. I’m pretty sure the same will happen for this one.
That’s a uniform “no” from us.
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Do you have any reason to believe that CM 11 exists for the 900H?
I haven't seen anything that indicates it is even planned. The CM 11 thread here clearly states Qualcomm support only for the S5. And the requests that I have seen to support the 900H on the Cyanogenmod site have gone unreplied.
Team Hacksung was very reluctant to support the Exynos S4. And it was only recently that forthcoming support for the Exynos N3 was announced. The 900H is a niche device and as such, probably none of the CyanogenMod Developers own one. Which would make it exceedingly hard to develop for even if there was a desire to do so.
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that mean no chance s**t
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that mean no chance s**t
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Sorry for the bad news. I wouldn't say zero chance of support since they ultimately decided to support the N3. But it's not promising either. There simply aren't many 900H phones compared to all of the other S5's that use the Qualcomm rather than Exynos processor. Resulting in tenuous prospects for Exynos support.
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Sorry for the bad news. I wouldn't say zero chance of support since they ultimately decided to support the N3. But it's not promising either. There simply aren't many 900H phones compared to all of the other S5's that use the Qualcomm rather than Exynos processor. Resulting in tenuous prospects for Exynos support.
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thx . to drop test hhhh