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Developer support for I9500 and I9505?

Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?

dafabsl said:
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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recklesslife85 said:
The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.

hung2900 said:
Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.
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I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?

dafabsl said:
Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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Many of us are probably getting the Snapdragon version. Easier to develop plus many devices are using it.

dafabsl said:
I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?
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No that's snapdragon
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TingTingin said:
No that's snapdragon
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daaaamn..
this german site here http://www.cnet.de/88108212/samsung-galaxy-s4-exynos-octa-5-kommt-nach-deutschland/
said the i9505 would be the one with octa :/
I really hoped that, because i won't use lte and in Austria we almost don't use lte and lte is really expensive, and I read that the Octa processor will be better for battery life

I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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TingTingin said:
I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...

dafabsl said:
Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...
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The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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TingTingin said:
The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/

dafabsl said:
hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/
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Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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TingTingin said:
Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.
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But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..

dafabsl said:
But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..
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this is how it looks to me ...
look at the previous galaxy and note series.. the non-lte version is available in almost all countries.. hence has the most dev support..
but in s4's case., since they cant mass produce exynos octa YET., they decided to use snapdragon even in countries outside the u.s... that's the only way to make s4 available to all countries..
they wanted to be the first to use octa chip?.. they sure am now.. but why rush releasing it when they cant give all people this octa feature they boast about?.. that's because they dont want xperia z and htc one to have all the spotlight..
and the result is what OP is asking now..
since the u.s. and most european countries will have I9505., the logical answer is the snapdragon will have more dev support.. and even have the higher chance to have cm..

Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?

lazylilsnoop said:
Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo

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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo
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Why wouldn't there be a CM for the sgs4?

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
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From your comment one would assume u know what your talking about it seems u have been misled
Octa is better on battery life I'm really not going to explain this again it is also more powerful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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Great thread and very good question OP. Right now, it looks like the snapdragon version will be the most dev friendly since it'll be the one sold in big markets ( US, UK, Germany....). I wish that the exynos 5 octa had LTE included. The note 2 had the same processor everywhere in the world and that was great.

POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?

I would like to know whether you guys will prefer either snapdragon 600 or exynos powered samsung galaxy s4, what it'll do is making it easy for us to understand which one will have more development support, so i'll and many others will buy that one. Thanks
EDIT: Here is Exynos's Benchmark results and comparison with Snapdragon 600 powered S4 and other devices:
Octa-core Galaxy S4 benchmarks surface, live up to expectations

hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like and i prefer touch wiz to cm, it is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.

You wont find it in store here in the u.s. I prefer exynos chip too but im not getting it due to cost and no lte. Going to renew my contract and get s600 around release. Hoping to find some good deal offerings

I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version

porkaysi said:
hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like cm, touch wiz is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.
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I am glad to find that people prefers Exynos more then Snapdragon 600, obviously because it's battery efficient faster, but i guess many of them have to import it, even i guess you also have to import Exynos one from Asia or other region, because i saw Samsung has shortage of Exynos, so 70% will get Snapdragon 600, but in my country there will be only i9500,

bedi.gursimran said:
I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version
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Yeah this is bit of setback, i wish Samsung must provide LTE Capable phone for everyone, it's not there headache whether a particular country supports it or not, can't really understand these manufacturers logic these days..my main concern is only if we get very fewer number of i9500, then of course development for them will be very minimal, and in my country we'll only get i9500

As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.

kataria.vikesh said:
As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.
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Well i don't think it's related to Q/A Answer section, i feel it should be in General, just like every other similar POLLS on xda.

if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.

bala_gamer said:
if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.
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This is the reason why i guess people are looking more towards Exynos, i.e. longer battery life, your ideas are really helping me here, my first Exynos device this S4 will be i am searching for some leak to know which 70% countries are getting SD600/i9505, i wish Asia will not

R: POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?
In Italy I will choose I9500 version (I don't care about LTE because here it's very expensive and not widespread)
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E5O by miles.
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I'll be purchasing 19500
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I9500 because well, I don't have any other choice. There's no 4G network either in my country.

IF I buy one: I9505.
Exynos makes me mad, I'm developing AOSP ROMs.

Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.

I9500 as I already have htc one with SD600 not that there is anything wrong with SD600 also I dont use 4G so don't need a 4G capable phone.

-A-P-M- said:
Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.

bala_gamer said:
no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.
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Don't forget, devices which doesn't get official CM Support still gets unofficial cm ports, like Desire Z etc, we may get unofficial ports, or even cm support lately for Exynos based devices, for example note 3 etc...

-A-P-M- said:
Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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It's actually only one member of the team who said that the others came out and said 1 member doesn't speak for the team and that as for every other phone they will never announce supporting or not supporting until a device is actually launched
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Poor Development ??

When I buy my GS3 When release the development was to high ci only see now 2 or 4 roms why so poor ?? Other fee grear kernels like franco siyah kernel now only have 2 custom kernels
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what version of s4 you have ?

There are quite a few stock ROMs for the I9500 but, in terms of CM10.1 and the like, you will need to wait until someone gets around to overcoming the closed source nature of Exynos the phone contains.
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He has the I9500 as posted by tapatalk sig. The I9505 will have greater development. But it's still relatively new for both models anyway.

U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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x.Orville.x said:
U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
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If you want developer support you have to stay away from Exynos. Samsung is an a..hole S4 will be my last Samsung device.

Pagnell said:
The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
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It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.

Entropy512 said:
It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.
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Coming from a CM member that must be really depressing news for I9500 owners who would rather not be on Touchwiz.

I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad.. the stock version is very lagy in comparing to the HTC

srstas said:
I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad..
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Blame Samsung.

[Q] Why so few custom ROMS for the S4 Exynos?

Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa

device is relatively new, exynos always gave headaches to devs of CM.....
give it time, some people said its not worth upgrading from an s3 so... yeah less custom ROMs

Really its a bitter truth...9500 has only 2 or 3 Devs till now with no update and fixes in lias 2 or 3 weeks ..that section seems like ghost busted :
9505 too has not as many Devs as HTC One has...however it has quite good dev support
I think after so many issues in s4 Devs are skipping it [probably] for note 3

lets wait and see in the near future if the outcome is bad, its hammer time !

Gboss01 said:
Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa
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To be clear - CM rarely says that a given device will NEVER be supported. The last time we did that was with the Snapdragon S1 and CM9 - That hardware was simply too weak to support ICS and later.
However, all of the CM maintainers that have worked with past Exynos variants refuse to touch it, and anyone else with maintainer experience saw what we went through with Exynos4 and also seem to be avoiding it.
There is always the possibility that someone new will pick things up - but honestly, I consider the likelihood to be very slim.
So CM support for the "Octa" is POSSIBLE - but it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. I think that AndreiLux was the only experienced low-level (kernels, platform bringup) developer to touch the "Octa", and he's not particularly happy with it so far.

Entropy512 said:
So CM support for the "Octa" is POSSIBLE - but it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. I think that AndreiLux was the only experienced low-level (kernels, platform bringup) developer to touch the "Octa", and he's not particularly happy with it so far.
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Other than the CCI fiasco I'm relatively fine with the phone. I expected and was prepared to bring MP to the device but I guess that's not happening.
As for CM, I think it's more of a problem of lack of interest than actual technical feasibility. I'd happily dwell into the device platform world if I had time but that's not happening anytime soon as I have a backlog of features in the kernel space to do and finish.

AndreiLux said:
Other than the CCI fiasco I'm relatively fine with the phone. I expected and was prepared to bring MP to the device but I guess that's not happening.
As for CM, I think it's more of a problem of lack of interest than actual technical feasibility. I'd happily dwell into the device platform world if I had time but that's not happening anytime soon as I have a backlog of features in the kernel space to do and finish.
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Why you will not bring it anymore?

Gboss01 said:
Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa
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No CM support does not equal to no dev support just to be clear. There are top.devs here ( Indie and Wanam) and there most likely be more devs to join the party. It is however a surprise that there's only a few Roms for this device at the moment.
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Well because most of the S4 users have the Snapdragon variant. As for CM, as Entropy said, its most probably not going to come out for our device, even if it does, it'll be broken and unusable due to lack of source code/documentation, etc. As for the custom ROMs, we'll have more of them but the best one IMO - Android Revolution HD - is very unlikely for our device.

The Octa is such a great phone yet the support seems to be lacking a little, I mean my Huawei U8800 had more development going on than this phone.
I dont get why alot of people are saying the Octa is crap compared to the S600 when the Octa beats the S600 in every benchmark I've seen.
Is the S600 an easier design to build custom ROMS for?
I have tried Doc Barebones ROM and Wanams Lite ROM. Both work well on the Octa but I found Docs ROM to the give me the highest Antutu scores, always above 30000 with the highest being 30890. Wanam's ROM didn't yield much more than the stock ROM, around 28300, same with the Omega v4 ROM.
I'm back to on the stock firmware, with bloatware removed, for now. having tried those three ROMS I'm itching to try another but alas I cant find any :crying:

Gboss01 said:
Is the S600 an easier design to build custom ROMS for?
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Yes as Qualcomm is much more open source than Exynos. Not open source = pain in the a** to develop.
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chickentuna said:
Yes as Qualcomm is much more open source than Exynos. Not open source = pain in the a** to develop.
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Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?

Just simply harder to develop anything for Exynos, i think.

I'd like to remind everyone that developers spend their own time and money on development.
Basically, unless the developer has a strong interest in a device he will not feel obliged to 'hack' features such as camera, noise canceling and so on.
I miss the old days of the HD2
I hope we can get CM on the 9500 because it will open the door for AOKP and Paranoid-Android and possibly MIUI.
Good luck to the developers.

RIP on i9500 haha just joking ... @AndreiLux are u giving up on i9500 ? oh please dont

As Entropy512 said, the problem is mostly because Exynos has terrible source code support. There are a lot of precompiled modules in the source, and these are tied to the Android version that the source code is for. This means that when a new version of Android comes out, you're stuck waiting for Samsung to catch up.
What the devs (like Entropy) have been trying to do is to create open-source versions of these modules, so that they're not reliant on Samsung. This has been extremely frustrating for them, requiring a lot of work for very little gain.
What would be ideal is for Samsung to provide source code and documentation for these precompiled modules. They're promised to do this several times, but so far have only delivered some code that only works for a reference board, not for the hardware configurations that any of their phones use. Even worse, the source code that is available is based on Gingerbread, and has numerous hacks applied to allow it to work with ICS. In short, it's just broken and will not work.
Qualcomm (Snapdragon), on the other hand, provide very good developer support. They and Texas Instruments (OMAP) have a very good reputation with the devs, with lots of source code and documentation available. That's why Snapdragon and OMAP phones are among the first to be supported when new versions of AOSP/AOKP/CM come out.
The I9500 may do better in the benchmarks than the I9505, but that's one of the few advantages it has.
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I am not really interested in anything else but AOSP / CM on this phone. We badly need it.. I think we need to build the force on Twitter so that we can bombard their twitter account (@SamsungExynos) and force them to release at least some sorta source for Exynos.
I already started tweeting them like hell. Yes, they do reply with kind of SAFE sided replies..

Gboss01 said:
Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?
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If they did it would make the world of difference and Exynos would be on a level playing field in development terms as the likes of Snapdragon. Unfortunately, Samsung have been saying that since the original Galaxy S and it still hasn't happened, and it's clear they never intended to release anything and it was nothing more than lip service in an attempt to sell more handsets by appearing developer friendly. It's broken promises like this which has made reputable developers wash their hands with the Exynos chipset and any phones that use it. Unfortunately, this leaves people with the I9500 in a bit of a predicament if they're not fond of TW as it's likely to be their only option for the foreseeable, if not full stop.

Gboss01 said:
Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?
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Exynos open source? Highly unlikely and yes it would be much easier building roms, devs wouldn't even need to have the device to build a working ROM.

gdonanthony said:
RIP on i9500 haha just joking ... @AndreiLux are u giving up on i9500 ? oh please dont
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He never said that, on the contrary he might be having some big plans
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[DISCUSSION] CM for the Galaxy S7 Exynos/Qualcomm

I am currently owning the Galaxy S6 but I really want to sell it and buy the s7 just because i want to use microsdcards again and whatherproofness is also very cool for me
so something what i really care about is development for the device wich i will buy...
i am pritty sure that the Qualcomm S7 will get Cm builds maybe also official builds but i live in germany where the Qualcomm variant is not sold. so i will need to stick with the exynos version.
the galaxy s6 also has CM aviable with its exynos processor... since now all Galaxy S (exynos) devices got cm in any time:
- Galaxy S2
- Galaxy S3
- Galaxy S4 exynos
- Galaxy S5 exynos (very buggy build tho)
- Galaxy S6
what do u think about cm on Galaxy S7

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/developer-discussion-custom-kernels-t3338351
No custom kernel thus far.
BTW, S2~6 are official builds?
From what I gather, Samsung has nearly zero motivation to contribute to open source and custom roms, unlike Motorola, Sony, HTC, etc. Which makes it kinda hard for devs to support their phones.
If you have an inside contact at Samsung, by all means let them know.

It has been discussed on so many topics already... CM (or any aosp type of rom for that matter) is pretty much impossible on the Exynos, even if someone gets something to boot, it will always be super broken and full of bugs. As for the Snapdragon variant.. CM should be very possible I guess but the problem is, it seems like every variant that comes with the snapdragon cpu has their bootloaders locked to hell... so... Until someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloaders... No luck there either. If your reason for buying an S7 is development and AOSP projects... I suggest you buy some other phone.

-Ric- said:
It has been discussed on so many topics already... CM (or any aosp type of rom for that matter) is pretty much impossible on the Exynos, even if someone gets something to boot, it will always be super broken and full of bugs. As for the Snapdragon variant.. CM should be very possible I guess but the problem is, it seems like every variant that comes with the snapdragon cpu has their bootloaders locked to hell... so... Until someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloaders... No luck there either. If your reason for buying an S7 is development and AOSP projects... I suggest you buy some other phone.
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the fact ist that they have said the same for galaxy s3 exynos and galaxy s6 exynos
both have pritty much stable builds.
i am using aosp or cm roms only when the phone gets outdated and getting no update from samsung.
so this isnt that important to me

<galaxylove> said:
the fact ist that they have said the same for galaxy s3 exynos and galaxy s6 exynos
both have pritty much stable builds.
i am using aosp or cm roms only when the phone gets outdated and getting no update from samsung.
so this isnt that important to me
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* What’s working */
Basic 2D graphics
Wi-Fi
AP hotspot
Audio
Microphone
SMS/MMS/Mobile Data(3G, LTE)
Call
Sensors
NFC
LED(WIP)
MTP
Suspend(deep-sleep)
/* What’s not working */
Camera
GPS
Hardware accelerated video/audio encoding/decoding
Proper 3D graphics
Listing network operator
Everything else.
Even what’s listed on “What’s working” has room to improve and may have some serious bugs.
With 2D graphics, there are noticeable framedrops and tearing
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is that your idea of stable?

-Ric- said:
is that your idea of stable?
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no but the rom is at least useable...
the galaxy s3 has very good dev support this is clear...
they said also for both devices that it is fully impossible. but actually the devs made it

<galaxylove> said:
no but the rom is at least useable...
the galaxy s3 has very good dev support this is clear...
they said also for both devices that it is fully impossible. but actually the devs made it
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no it's not usable, sorry. even 2D graphics are broken in it. Unless Samsung has a change of heart and releases the full source for Exynos phones, forget it. And Samsung having is a change of heart is never gonna happen since almost all their customers don't care about root/custom Roms. The only hope is someone figuring out how to unlock the bootloaders on the Qualcomm variants

-Ric- said:
no it's not usable, sorry. even 2D graphics are broken in it. Unless Samsung has a change of heart and releases the full source for Exynos phones, forget it. And Samsung having is a change of heart is never gonna happen since almost all their customers don't care about root/custom Roms. The only hope is someone figuring out how to unlock the bootloaders on the Qualcomm variants
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This is the problem every year with Samsung phones. It is not Samsung Mobile division that does not release the Exynos sources, there are other divisions of Samsung which will simply not allow the Exynos sources to be released (for newer devices)

http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
Best bet would be someone found a hack on Snapdragons to root the phones and then install custom ROM.
For Exynos I think we can safely say goodbyes. Anything else is wishful thinking. Sorry to say that but I think that's true. (or you can start a 100-day hunger strike in front of the Samsung HQ and see how it goes.)

I am a student from china but now I study in germany and get the SD820 version from china....

007zzz said:
I am a student from china but now I study in germany and get the SD820 version from china....
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I would get the Mi5, its has already an rather stable CM13 out.

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I would get the Mi5, its has already an rather stable CM13 out.
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Mi5 doesn't have microSD card and uses Type-C cables.
Not to mention that the radio firmware is probably bugged by the Chinese government.

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Mi5 doesn't have microSD card and uses Type-C cables.
Not to mention that the radio firmware is probably bugged by the Chinese government.
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It has 128 GB internal storage and Type C cables thats an plus in my book.

I have this feeling where i really just like sansumg's phones hardware and in special it's new look, but then is the fact that my S5(exynos) still stuck in 5.0 bugged as hell rom and there still no 6.0. The Qualcomm counter part have great CM support but there still nothing for the S7.
I will probably have to get either a nexus(2016) or a Huawei p9 which looks really nice too, also I'm thinking about the HTC 10 mmm.