After several days struggle, I'm burned out. Some of the threads here have 100+ pages, and searches yield too much outdated, irrelevant info. So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android. As you know, the choices for android rom are mind-boggling. I don't need anything fancy, just something up-to-date and stable. I would like, however, something LOUD.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Using despy1989's March 2010 guide (four years old already!), I have my HD2 booting up asking to choose Android or WM. If I choose Android, it does nothing, and defaults to WM.
I have SUNDAWG-CM7-NATIVESD rom loaded (or I think I do) in the android directory of the SD card. I'm not sure this one will meet my LOUD requirement, but since it won't load, I can't tell.
If I tap the new Android icon, it does nothing. If I tap the Android SoftReset icon, it resets but does not load Android, goes to WinMo.
If I go to File Explorer, and run haret, I get the message "failed to load file \storagecard\android\sdcard\nativesd\zimage"
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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eclyptos said:
How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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AFAIK, yes it is installed as NativeSD, Did not make a partition (there was conflicting advice as to whether it was necessary. I'm not ready to go "all in" and reformat my old SD card yet.)
Want to keep WM6.5 since it is the only one that works the way I need. I've been playing with a Sony X10a with Android 1.6 and am frustrated. I specifically need LOUDNESS and customizable ringtones and notifications, and relatively easy syncing with my PC.
Thanks for your reply and any further advice.
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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I did this 100 times and HD2 is not that easy to brick, I never heard about bricked HD2 before. Then if you don't want to do it you will never have NativeSD on your phone because the NativeSD have to be installed on EXT4 partition, there is no other way. The only Android which you can use is from this section HERE. Put it on SD with other stuff and run with the application from WM6.5. First boot is very long.
eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated.
I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
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Shadow_Nexus said:
No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
do update for a fee
eclyptos said:
Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
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Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
techcntr said:
Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
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If you really can't do this I can assist you via Team Viewer, I will tell you what to do and what to download. Before that I have to see your bootloader. Send me a PM to arrange an appointament. I don't know nobody in USA at the moment or I don't know they are.
techcntr said:
So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android.
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
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Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
broken links, etc.
Szczepanik said:
Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
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Been trying to follow your steps, but when I get to "Native SD Install Recovery", the links are broken. (this is the very kind of frustrations I'm having - there does not appear to be one single step-by-step guide without numerous links to invalid or outdated sites. I don't need advertising either.)
I can't find the 4EXT partition (in W8.1) in order to install anything.
So, now what?
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Hi Folks.
Just been issued heros at work and wish to update the radio rom...How is this accomplished??
regards
Lohtse
Firstly it needs to have a recovery image installed I recommend Amon-Ra v 1.6.2.
Secondly you need to find the radio rom you wish to flash and put it onto the root of you phones sd card.
Thirdly enter the recovery image you have installed by holding power and home button from the phone being off.
Then select the radio.zip to flash.
Everything I have said here can easily be found how to do via searching this forum or its wiki.
also www.theunlockr.com will help with installing the recovery image.
lohtse said:
Hi Folks.
Just been issued heros at work and wish to update the radio rom...How is this accomplished??
regards
Lohtse
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First you will need to install the custom recovery console if you haven't done so already.
Then download your updated radio, put it on your SD, load into the recovery, then apply update. DONE!
If that is too brief,... let me know,...
EDIT... Ooops,... too late.
way to complicated...
Too much to do and can screw up..... At least with winmo and symbian was a few clicks...
hmmmmm think will ditch android.....
really? its not complicated at all when you know what your doing. In fact I can say its a damn sight easier (and safer) than modifying blackberry roms and from what I hear also Windows Mobile.
Lennyuk said:
really? its not complicated at all when you know what your doing. In fact I can say its a damn sight easier (and safer) than modifying blackberry roms and from what I hear also Windows Mobile.
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I came from wimo to android, and as it is said, it's quite hard to catch the thing at the beginning, but after everything seems easier than in wimo !! and more reliable... you have almost no chance to brick your hero after you installed the recovery boot.
radio : boot in recovery then select the good option.
rom : nandroid backup / install whatever rom you want / if you don't like it go for nandroid restore ( all you need is two Sd card.. the good one and the one for the "tests" ).... etc....
But at the beginning i was totally out but with a little time.. reading some posts (here and on the web) ... one day everything was more clear !
Ciao
Fred
lohtse said:
way to complicated...
Too much to do and can screw up..... At least with winmo and symbian was a few clicks...
hmmmmm think will ditch android.....
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Its not hard at all. You can have the recovery installed and the radio updated in 5 minutes.
For step by step instructions follow the "Installing a recovery image" section in BTDAG's guide linked in my signature.
Then further down the same post, in the second yellow box there are instructions on "Updating your Radio".
Guys, the OP said he was issued the Hero at work, then two hours later said he was going to ditch Android... so what then, he's quitting his job? Troll alert. Don't feed the troll.
As to troll comment(yes offence has been caused)....hmmmmm.... Am going back to the trusty Kaiser... WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THE HERO.... We live in free(ish) world.. And the Phones are issued as an update to our old duty phones... Also I'm not the only one who uses them that feels the same.
Now to updating being easy. Gulp I must be eeer dum!!! Du hu Du HU must be the TROLL in me!
I have tried to install recovery image thing and well just cant get it to work... And now I find I have to root the hero too so things will install to sd card!!!! WTF this should all be standard like winmo and symbian etc...
I have been using smart phones since the Ericsson r380 and so far Android has failed to impress to the degree I am beginning to hate it....
Am far to used to having simply andfull access to everything..
Android is a HUGE learning curve that I suspect I may not have the patience for..
regards The TROLL sorry I mean Lohtse
Now I have finally managed to get recovery image on and updated the radio...Being called a troll did it !!!!!!.....LOL
My final questions are this how do I root so I can install to sd card(just point me in the right direction) And do I have to unlock Phone to any network to have custom roms on..
regards
TROLL
lohtse said:
Now I have finally managed to get recovery image on and updated the radio...Being called a troll did it !!!!!!.....LOL
My final questions are this how do I root so I can install to sd card(just point me in the right direction) And do I have to unlock Phone to any network to have custom roms on..
regards
TROLL
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Wahey!!!! Good job man.
Ok,... So now you have the recovery image all you need to do is pick a custom ROM. Personally, I highly recommend MCR3.2 (link in signature at botom). It is an Android 1.5 ROM but is stable and fast, what more could you want for a work phone.This ROM is rooted and has apps2SD enabled. Once you have installed the ROM you will need to remember to create an ext2 partition on the SD card (easily done through the recovery). Then you are set to go!!!!
lohtse said:
Now I have finally managed to get recovery image on and updated the radio...Being called a troll did it !!!!!!.....LOL TROLL
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You're welcome And what ddotpatel said. MCR is fast & clean. By installing a custom recovery you've already done the only tricky bit.
Yep installed 3.2 from modocca. seems nice but how do you know if the apps are installing to sdcard???? I'm not sure they are lol..
lohtse said:
Yep installed 3.2 from modocca. seems nice but how do you know if the apps are installing to sdcard???? I'm not sure they are lol..
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You need to create an ext2 partition on your SD card through the recovery again. I cant remember the exact wording but something like "create ext2 + fat" or something along those lines.
As far as I know, once that has been done all apps will install to SD.
Someone with more knowhow than me correct me if I am wrong?... CAULI?,... LENNY?
Can someone who knows please answer this question:
Are you 100% sure that flashing the Radio ROM does not affect the phone RF Calibration ?
Thanks!
ddotpatel said:
You need to create an ext2 partition on your SD card through the recovery again. I cant remember the exact wording but something like "create ext2 + fat" or something along those lines.
As far as I know, once that has been done all apps will install to SD.
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Yup, certainly as far as MCR is concerned. On the first reboot it will move all files from /data/app to /system/sd/app (& similarly for app-private) Nb /sysytem/sd is the mount point for the ext2 partition. All it does is move the files over & then replaces the /data/app (& app-private) directory with a symlink to the new location. That way future installs, updates etc all automatically go to the new location.
You can always check yourself with a terminal emulator & the command ls -l, or using a file manager like Root Explorer, if you're curious. Some people think it's not working because they see available space in internal flash drop as apps are installed, but that's because app data & the dalvik cache remain on internal flash, principally aiui for reasons of access speed. The saving you make just from shifting the apks to sd is more than enough for most people it seems.
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Yup, certainly as far as MCR is concerned. On the first reboot it will move all files from /data/app to /system/sd/app (& similarly for app-private) Nb /sysytem/sd is the mount point for the ext2 partition.
All it does is move the files over & then replaces the /data/app (& app-private) directory with a symlink to the new location. That way future installs, updates etc all automatically go to the new location.
You can always check yourself with a terminal emulator & the command ls -l, or using a file manager like Root Explorer.
Some people think it's not working because they see available space in internal flash drop as apps are installed, but that's because app data & the dalvik cache remain on internal flash, principally aiui for reasons of access speed.
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hmmmm I certainly noticed a drop in available memory on the phone to the degree of only having 54 megs free...
SebHTCHero said:
Are you 100% sure that flashing the Radio ROM does not affect the phone RF Calibration ?
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what is rf calibration?
What is radio rom used for by phone?
kendong2 said:
what is rf calibration?
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A set of tables usually stored in NVRAM that takes into account the slight differences in the components used to build your phone. Every single phone is calibrated during manufacturing.
If the calibration is erased, it will look like it works but you can have all sort of problems from poor battery life to random drop from the network or poor sensibility (not to mention the higher than expected radio levels you could be emitting right next to your brain )
after waiting for a while to see if windows 7 would be released publicly for this phone, and after finish paying off the phone i have decided to just say "Screw you microsoft" and go with an android build, but i have NO idea where to start with this.
The basics of my knowledge of cell phones is that i have put cookies home tab editor, and a few extra things on my phone, i have backed up my phone a couple of times, and i even done the official t-mobile upgrade for my phone, i know a decent amount about computers in general, but haven't had the chance to play around with my phone and it's OS like i have with a computer, being that my phone is very important to me because of my work, and that i don't have a house phone, only my cell phone.
So, could someone at least direct me to all of the forums with the best downloads for the andriod OS, and extras that i will need to get android working on my HD2?
and am i able to run cookies home tab on my HD2 even if it has android OS?
her u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
and u will need
hspl2 or 3
just try the search option and u will get all the information about it ..
if you are ,form gemany then just try this link
http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-hd2-android/100639-installationsanleitung-tutorial.html
if not
try search on hspl2 or 3
I'm from the USA, i have t-mobile, updateing to the android will still alow basic calling on t-mobile's edge, gprs, and 3-g networks right?
yea, i've been looking through that forum thread already, i can't find any leadway on what to do, i see about kernels and stuff, but i don't know what all i need to download in case to get the most "Stable" android system, i see there is a linux build, and i guess hastarin is another one?
Is Linux Stable now?
her u go ( hspl2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
and ya everthing is working well try for exampel this builds ..
they work fine
[UPD][BUILD][27.10.10]Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3 rEVOlution [kernel:hastarin R7.7]
[UPD][BUILD][07.11.10] MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.5 [kernel: MDJ S1]
and dont forget this hier is an step by step information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
hope that will help u
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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Don't quote me on this, but from what I've heard HSPL2/3 indeed are not required, but if you somehow screw up your phone without them, you're basically ****ed. HSPL2/3 should always (well, most of the time) be able to revert you back to stock.
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Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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You don't need to upgrade HSPL at all. What you must have (100% MUST!!) is a radio version 2.08 or later (2.x.50 versions, NOT 2.x.51 versions).
Until the recent release of the official 3.14 ROM there was no other way to upgrade the radio to the minimum required other than custom flashing, which requires a HSPL upgrade. (Not 100% sure that 3.14 was the first, but I believe it was).
Either way, it's the radio that's crucial to Android - not HSPL.
(I ain't no Android chef or dev - this is just gleaned from what I've read on this forum, so may not be 100% accurate, but it's never failed for me.)
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
ogizz said:
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
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Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
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Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
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Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
ogizz said:
Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
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No worries mate - glad to help. Hope you get it running - Android's sweet
rather than start a new thread, i have a supplementary question.
It's hard to search for this question, so apologies if it's been covered.
Is it better to run a stripped down custom WM ROM to boot android? or will a stock WM ROM (with the correct radio etc.) run Android just as good?
Does it make a difference?
(I just got a stock HD2 with 3.14 ROM and 2.08.50... radio...)
Hi. i bought an htc hd2, but i did not like windows, so my brother installed android on it. i belive it is MDJ evo ROM, but i dont know what radio i am using.
-anyway, i noticed android is using about 70% of my battery, is this normal? (my older android phone used like 10%) does changing rom help?
1. If i want to change my rom, all i have to do is replace my old one on the SD card?
2. If i backup using titanium, how do i get the restore-file on my new rom?
3. a friend of mine is buying hd2. do he need to flash hes phone to be able to install android? ive read a "definitive guide to android" here on the forum, but from a "new user" standpoint its kinda hard to understand.
So it is:-flash phone, -install rado, -drag/drop android on sd card?
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Hi. i bought an htc hd2, but i did not like windows, so my brother installed android on it. i belive it is MDJ evo ROM, but i dont know what radio i am using.
-anyway, i noticed android is using about 70% of my battery, is this normal? (my older android phone used like 10%) does changing rom help?
1. If i want to change my rom, all i have to do is replace my old one on the SD card?
2. If i backup using titanium, how do i get the restore-file on my new rom?
3. a friend of mine is buying hd2. do he need to flash hes phone to be able to install android? ive read a "definitive guide to android" here on the forum, but from a "new user" standpoint its kinda hard to understand.
So it is:-flash phone, -install rado, -drag/drop android on sd card?
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1: Yes, Android is contained in it's own folder on the SD Card, if there's nothing else you wish to carry over to the other build, format the card and put the new build on, then boot in the usual way.
2: titanium backup creates a folder called rather unsurprisingly "TitaniumBackup" on the root of the SD card, copy that over to the new build, install Titanium and select restore and it will give you a list of options to reinstall. Google for the wiki on the program and it goes into a lot more detail about how to do all the steps.
3: Yes, pretty much. Although some users will tell you that you'll need a newer SPL version, so long as you're using the latest stock winmo rom the spl is not needed and radio also get's updated along with it, then it's just a case of booting android.
ty
Thanks for the great reply =)
what is HARET? i have a dual boot option on my hd2, is this buildt in the rom itself?
Weencent said:
Thanks for the great reply =)
what is HARET? i have a dual boot option on my hd2, is this buildt in the rom itself?
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HaRet is the hardware emulation invoker for Android to boot. ClrCAD is the audio part of android as well, you need to boot clrcad, then haret on all builds else you'll get no audio.
Lots of roms now have dual boot options, they are just an automatic clrcard/haret loader and some come built into roms, yes. Else they are just a cab file you can install yourself.
So a friend has ah HD2 where his old colleague flashed Android, dualboot. This was maybe around Feb. Now he wants a newer version on as the froyo version hes got drains battery fast and wants a new rom.
Ive never flashed a HD2 befor but have done other phones incl hero, desire, desire hd, o2x, sgs2.
Now this looks confusing with dual booting mode with nand, magldr, clk etc but given instructions I should be fine
So how would I update hes existing Android version to say miui?
Can I delete winOS totally and have Android?
Possible of completly bricking phone beyond repair?
Any recommendations etc
Thanks
It's dualbooting Android and WinMo 6.5 or WP7?
Oh. Well, it doesn't make a difference. Find a SD build, download, on SD delete Android folder, unpack new one in place of his old Froyo, ta-dah. Done. No chance of bricking, no playing with clk/magldr or anything.
I hope he made a backup of his stuff.
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It's dualbooting Android and WinMo 6.5 or WP7?
Oh. Well, it doesn't make a difference. Find a SD build, download, on SD delete Android folder, unpack new one in place of his old Froyo, ta-dah. Done. No chance of bricking, no playing with clk/magldr or anything.
I hope he made a backup of his stuff.
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What SD build? How to unpack? Does this delete winOS totally? more info please
ermacwins said:
What SD build? How to unpack? Does this delete winOS totally? more info please
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No, it does not delete wm6.5 completely if you are running android from the sd card. If you wish to keep wm6.5, install a new android sd rom like you did previously. The dev of new rom will most likely state whether the data.img is compatible coming from another rom.
seanyuan62 said:
No, it does not delete wm6.5 completely if you are running android from the sd card. If you wish to keep wm6.5, install a new android sd rom like you did previously. The dev of new rom will most likely state whether the data.img is compatible coming from another rom.
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I didn't flash his phone, it was his ex colleague. He asked if its possible, to completely remove Wimp and just have Android. Is this possible with miui?
Sure. You will have to install magldr or clk, flash a new radio probably and HSPL.
Then find a NAND build that suits you best and follow the instructions to install it.
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Sure. You will have to install magldr or clk, flash a new radio probably and HSPL.
Then find a NAND build that suits you best and follow the instructions to install it.
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How would I know if its magldr or clk? Also after deleting winOS is possible to comeback anyhow as a failsafe?
If there is just pure WinMo 6.5, there is no magldr or clk yet. You have to choose which one would be better.
OK. If you want to install Android and ONLY Android, clk would be better. If you wanted to have WP7 or WP7 + Android, you would have to choose magldr. But you don't, so clk is a better option.
It's VERY easy to come back after failing something. Except installing a wrong radio to a wrong device, of course. Or if something is broken inside. And it's hard to fail anything anyway, but... well, is possible.
Ask any questions regarding these thing, I will try to explain you these things and show you tutorials. Of course, finding everything for yourself would save us both time and would be more rewarding, but don't worry, I will not bite you.
Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at
Read this guide by mskip, it will help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
the_at said:
Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at
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HSPL = When you bought your phone, it was showingspl. After you have unlocked you phone, it will show HSPL. This means that you can flash anything you want.. What hspl simply does is edit security_1 to security_0
CLK and MAGLDR - two different bootloaders. You need these to flash an android rom.
NAND - A "place" on your phone where android is saved.
CWM - Clockworkdmod, a "thing" that's needed to flash android (.zip's)
Tried to explain it in the easiest way, I hope it helped
Also try SD Android before playing with NAND version - you may just dislike it and you won't lose time spent on flash ;-)
SD Android is slower than nand version, but if you want android just for play angry birds etc. - would be enough. Great for beginners - you won't mess anything in device.
Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at
the_at said:
Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at
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1. MAGLDR allows you to have more control over how you boot your roms, it allowas you to run a Nand Android rom, or boot from sd, or boot a WP7 rom if you have it installed. It also allows you to boot to CWR (as well as play a kick ass game of tetris ).
CLK gives more of a "stock" android experience as your phone will not have to boot MAGLDR first, when you turn it on it boots strait to Android just like a native phone. You can also reboot right to CWR and you can charge the phone while off which is something MAGLDR currently lacks.
2. If you are going to go Nand and are using CLK or the CWR is a must as all Android Nand roms are flashed this way. It also allows you to backup and restore your rom before making changes so you can go back right where you were if you make a mistake.
Ok, thanks again.
I believe Id like to flash Android (Ice Cream sandwich) to NAND. Using CLK. Also install CWM and CWR, for this nice recovery feature.
Could you point me to the newest/best versions of those programs for a clean install?
- Android ROM, ICS, without any additions like filemanager etc. if possible
- CLK
- CWM and CWR
Great help here, guys!
Cheers, the_at
PS: Also, I read something about not having enough space on the phone for apps. As I usually install apps (in WM 6.5) to SD anyway, this is not an issue for me. However, do I need something special in Android to install to SD or can I easily choose as in WM 6.5?